American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

"How many Americans died under Trump when fighting a stupid war? That would be none. That alone puts him ahead of a ton of presidents. Blaming covid on Trump is like blaming a president for people getting cancer. The surprising part to me in this day and age would be a bunch of deranged academics not putting Trump last.

With Biden, I would grade him and / A as he has not been mentally stable through most of his presidency. He won an election? BFD. What president did not?

Ended the pandemic? Well, there is 1. 1 million cases in the USA right now with Covid and people are still dying. What did he do to end it? Republican governors started opening up their states and Democratic ones started losing business and were forced to open too. More people died with Covid under Biden in 2021 than Trump in 2020. He didn't do shit with Covid outside of the pointless vax mandates and Covid swabs to re-enter the USA. Those acts were harmful, uncomfortable, unnecessary, and costly.

There are at least 400,000 Ukrainians dead now and probably more Russians in a war that Biden could have stopped and did not, and these historians consider that a success? That is a failure of epic proportions IMO.

And we pay the taxes to fix roads and bridges. WTF does Biden have to do with that? Are we supposed to be grateful he just did not put that money in his pocket?

A far more interesting question was who was the WOAT pondered at Zero Hedge? The comments were priceless, educational, and unlike this moronic poll, a bit of a surprise. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-woat-president.

Thing is anyone who puts Obama, Trump, or even Biden on the WOAT list bores the piss out of me. ".

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...29993280205039 must see TV!

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/u...on-agenda.html

GIVE THE TIMES.

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Donald J. Trump, wearing a suit and tie, claps during a campaign rally at night.

Donald Trump wants to reimpose a Covid 19-era policy of refusing asylum claims — this time basing that refusal on assertions that migrants carry other infectious diseases like tuberculosis. Credit. Doug Mills / The New York Times.

Sweeping Raids, Giant Camps and Mass Deportations: Inside Trump's 2025 Immigration Plans.

If he regains power, Donald Trump wants not only to revive some of the immigration policies criticized as draconian during his presidency, but expand and toughen them.

Donald Trump wants to reimpose a Covid 19-era policy of refusing asylum claims — this time basing that refusal on assertions that migrants carry other infectious diseases like tuberculosis. Credit. Doug Mills / The New York Times.

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By Charlie Savage, Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan.

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Former President Donald J. Trump is planning an extreme expansion of his first-term crackdown on immigration if he returns to power in 2025 — including preparing to round up undocumented people already in the United States on a vast scale and detain them in sprawling camps while they wait to be expelled.

The plans would sharply restrict both legal and illegal immigration in a multitude of ways.

Mr. Trump wants to revive his first-term border policies, including banning entry by people from certain Muslim-majority nations and reimposing a Covid 19-era policy of refusing asylum claims — though this time he would base that refusal on assertions that migrants carry other infectious diseases like tuberculosis.

He plans to scour the country for unauthorized immigrants and deport people by the millions per year.

To help speed mass deportations, Mr. Trump is preparing an enormous expansion of a form of removal that does not require due process hearings. To help Immigration and Customs Enforcement carry out sweeping raids, he plans to reassign other federal agents and deputize local police officers and National Guard soldiers voluntarily contributed by Republican-run states.

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To ease the strain on ICE detention facilities, Mr. Trump wants to build huge camps to detain people while their cases are processed and they await deportation flights. And to get around any refusal by Congress to appropriate the necessary funds, Mr. Trump would redirect money in the military budget, as he did in his first term to spend more on a border wall than Congress had authorized.

ImageA side view of Stephen Miller as he stands and gives a speech.

"Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown," said Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump's former White House aide who was the chief architect of his border control efforts. Credit. Cooper Neill for The New York Times.

In a public reference to his plans, Mr. Trump told a crowd in Iowa in September: "Following the Eisenhower model, we will carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. " The reference was to a 1954 campaign to round up and expel Mexican immigrants that was named for an ethnic slur — "Operation Wetback. ".

The constellation of Mr. Trump's 2025 plans amounts to an assault on immigration on a scale unseen in modern American history. Millions of undocumented immigrants would be barred from the country or uprooted from it years or even decades after settling here.

Such a scale of planned removals would raise logistical, financial and diplomatic challenges and would be vigorously challenged in court. But there is no mistaking the breadth and ambition of the shift Mr. Trump is eyeing.

In a second Trump presidency, the visas of foreign students who participated in anti-Israel or pro-Palestinian protests would be canceled. USA Consular officials abroad will be directed to expand ideological screening of visa applicants to block people the Trump administration considers to have undesirable attitudes. People who were granted temporary protected status because they are from certain countries deemed unsafe, allowing them to lawfully live and work in the United States, would have that status revoked.

Similarly, numerous people who have been allowed to live in the country temporarily for humanitarian reasons would also lose that status and be kicked out, including tens of thousands of the Afghans who were evacuated amid the 2021 Taliban takeover and allowed to enter the United States. Afghans holding special visas granted to people who helped USA Forces would be revetted to see if they really did.

And Mr. Trump would try to end birthright citizenship for babies born in the United States to undocumented parents — by proclaiming that policy to be the new position of the government and by ordering agencies to cease issuing citizenship-affirming documents like Social Security cards and passports to them. That policy's legal legitimacy, like nearly all of Mr. Trump's plans, would be virtually certain to end up before the Supreme Court.

In interviews with The New York Times, several Trump advisers gave the most expansive and detailed description yet of Mr. Trump's immigration agenda in a potential second term. In particular, Mr. Trump's campaign referred questions for this article to Stephen Miller, an architect of Mr. Trump's first-term immigration policies who remains close to him and is expected to serve in a senior role in a second administration.

All of the steps Trump advisers are preparing, Mr. Miller contended in a wide-ranging interview, rely on existing statutes; while the Trump team would likely seek a revamp of immigration laws, the plan was crafted to need no new substantive legislation. And while acknowledging that lawsuits would arise to challenge nearly every one of them, he portrayed the Trump team's daunting array of tactics as a "blitz" designed to overwhelm immigrant-rights lawyers.

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"Any activists who doubt President Trump's resolve in the slightest are making a drastic error: Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown," Mr. Miller said, adding, "The immigration legal activists won't know what's happening. ".

Todd Schulte, the president of FWD. Us, an immigration and criminal justice advocacy group that repeatedly fought the Trump administration, said the Trump team's plans relied on "xenophobic demagoguery" that appeals to his hardest-core political base.

"Americans should understand these policy proposals are an authoritarian, often illegal, agenda that would rip apart nearly every aspect of American life — tanking the economy, violating the basic civil rights of millions of immigrants and native-born Americans alike," Mr. Schulte said.

'Poisoning the Blood'.

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Dozens of migrants sit and stand on a Manhattan sidewalk waiting to be processed.

Migrants gather outside the Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan in August, waiting to be processed. Credit. Jeenah Moon for The New York Times.

Since Mr. Trump left office, the political environment on immigration has moved in his direction. He is also more capable now of exploiting that environment if he is re-elected than he was when he first won election as an outsider.

The ebbing of the Covid-19 pandemic and resumption of travel flows have helped stir a global migrant crisis, with millions of Venezuelans and Central Americans fleeing turmoil and Africans arriving in Latin American countries before continuing their journey north. Amid the record numbers of migrants at the southern border and beyond it in cities like New York and Chicago, voters are frustrated and even some Democrats are calling for tougher action against immigrants and pressuring the White House to better manage the crisis.

Mr. Trump and his advisers see the opening, and now know better how to seize it. The aides Mr. Trump relied upon in the chaotic early days of his first term were sometimes at odds and lacked experience in how to manipulate the levers of federal power. By the end of his first term, cabinet officials and lawyers who sought to restrain some of his actions — like his Homeland Security secretary and chief of staff, John F. Kelly — had been fired, and those who stuck with him had learned much.

In a second term, Mr. Trump plans to install a team that will not restrain him.

Since much of Mr. Trump's first-term immigration crackdown was tied up in the courts, the legal environment has tilted in his favor: His four years of judicial appointments left behind federal appellate courts and a Supreme Court that are far more conservative than the courts that heard challenges to his first-term policies.

The fight over Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals provides an illustration.

DACA is an Obama-era program that shields from deportation and grants work permits to people who were brought unlawfully to the United States as children. Mr. Trump tried to end it, but the Supreme Court blocked him on procedural grounds in June 2020.

Mr. Miller said Mr. Trump would try again to end DACA. And the 5-4 majority of the Supreme Court that blocked the last attempt no longer exists: A few months after the DACA ruling, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died and Mr. Trump replaced her with a sixth conservative, Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

Mr. Trump's rhetoric has more than kept up with his increasingly extreme agenda on immigration.

His stoking of fear and anger toward immigrants — pushing for a border wall and calling Mexicans rapists — fueled his 2016 takeover of the Republican Party. As president, he privately mused about developing a militarized border like Israel's, asked whether migrants crossing the border could be shot in the legs and wanted a proposed border wall topped with flesh-piercing spikes and painted black to burn migrants' skin.

As he has campaigned for the party's third straight presidential nomination, his anti-immigrant tone has only grown harsher. In a recent interview with a right-wing website, Mr. Trump claimed without evidence that foreign leaders were deliberately emptying their "insane asylums" to send the patients across America's southern border as migrants. He said migrants were "poisoning the blood of our country. " And at a rally on Wednesday in Florida, he compared them to the fictional serial killer and cannibal Hannibal Lecter, saying, "That's what's coming into our country right now. ".

Mr. Trump had similarly vowed to carry out mass deportations when running for office in 2016, but the government only managed several hundred thousand removals per year under his presidency, on par with other recent administrations. If they get another opportunity, Mr. Trump and his team are determined to achieve annual numbers in the millions.

Keeping People Out.

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Migrants stand in a line on the side of a road, in the glow of a truck's headlights.

Migrants wait to be escorted by Border Patrol agents to a processing area in September. Mr. Trump's stoking of fear and anger toward immigrants fueled his 2016 takeover of the Republican Party. Credit. Mark Abramson for The New York Times.

Mr. Trump's immigration plan is to pick up where he left off and then go much farther. He would not only revive some of the policies that were criticized as draconian during his presidency, many of which the Biden White House ended, but also expand and toughen them.

One example centers on expanding first-term policies aimed at keeping people out of the country. Mr. Trump plans to suspend the nation's refugee program and once again categorically bar visitors from troubled countries, reinstating a version of his ban on travel from several mostly Muslim-majority countries, which President Biden called discriminatory and ended on his first day in office.

Mr. Trump would also use coercive diplomacy to induce other nations to help, including by making cooperation a condition of any other bilateral engagement, Mr. Miller said. For example, a second Trump administration would seek to re-establish an agreement with Mexico that asylum seekers remain there while their claims are processed. (It is not clear that Mexico would agree; a Mexican court has said that deal violated human rights.).

Mr. Trump would also push to revive "safe third country" agreements with several nations in Central America, and try to expand them to Africa, Asia and South America. Under such deals, countries agree to take would-be asylum seekers from specific other nations and let them apply for asylum there instead.

While such arrangements have traditionally only covered migrants who had previously passed through a third country, federal law does not require that limit and a second Trump administration would seek to make those deals without it, in part as a deterrent to migrants making what the Trump team views as illegitimate asylum claims.

At the same time, Mr. Miller said, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would invoke the public health emergency powers law known as Title 42 to again refuse to hear any asylum claims by people arriving at the southern border. The Trump administration had internally discussed that idea early in Mr. Trump's term, but some cabinet secretaries pushed back, arguing that there was no public health emergency that would legally justify it. The administration ultimately implemented it during the coronavirus pandemic.

Saying the idea has since gained acceptance in practice — Mr. Biden initially kept the policy — Mr. Miller said Mr. Trump would invoke Title 42, citing "severe strains of the flu, tuberculosis, scabies, other respiratory illnesses like are. S. V. And so on, or just a general issue of mass migration being a public health threat and conveying a variety of communicable diseases. ".

Mr. Trump and his aides have not yet said whether they would re-enact one of the most contentious deterrents to unauthorized immigration that he pursued as president: separating children from their parents, which led to trauma among migrants and difficulties in reuniting families. When pressed, Mr. Trump has repeatedly declined to rule out reviving the policy. After an outcry over the practice, Mr. Trump ended it in 2018 and a judge later blocked the government from putting it back into effect.

Mass Deportations.

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A close-up, hip-level view of federal officers wearing their firearms in their holsters.

Federal immigration-enforcement officers gathered for an arrest operation in May in Pompano Beach, Fla. Credit. Saul Martinez for The New York Times.

Soon after Mr. Trump announced his 2024 campaign for president last November, he met with Tom Homan, who ran ICE for the first year and a half of the Trump administration and was an early proponent of separating families to deter migrants.

In an interview, Mr. Homan recalled that in that meeting, he "agreed to come back" in a second term and would "help to organize and run the largest deportation operation this country's ever seen. ".

Trump advisers' vision of abrupt mass deportations would be a recipe for social and economic turmoil, disrupting the housing market and major industries including agriculture and the service sector.

Mr. Miller cast such disruption in a favorable light.

"Mass deportation will be a labor-market disruption celebrated by American workers, who will now be offered higher wages with better benefits to fill these jobs," he said. "Americans will also celebrate the fact that our nation's laws are now being applied equally, and that one select group is no longer magically exempt. ".

One planned step to overcome the legal and logistical hurdles would be to significantly expand a form of fast-track deportations known as "expedited removal. " It denies undocumented immigrants the usual hearings and opportunity to file appeals, which can take months or years — especially when people are not in custody — and has led to a large backlog. A 1996 law says people can be subject to expedited removal for up to two years after arriving, but to date the executive branch has used it more cautiously, swiftly expelling people picked up near the border soon after crossing.

The Trump administration tried to expand the use of expedited removal, but a court blocked it and then the Biden team canceled the expansion. It remains unclear whether the Supreme Court will rule that it is constitutional to use the law against people who have been living for a significant period in the United States and express fear of persecution if sent home.

Mr. Trump has also said he would invoke an archaic law, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, to expel suspected members of drug cartels and criminal gangs without due process. That law allows for summary deportation of people from countries with which the United States is at war, that have invaded the United States or that have engaged in "predatory incursions. ".

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Tom Homan stands holding a microphone in his right hand, giving a speech.

Tom Homan, who ran ICE for the first year and a half of the Trump administration, said he told Mr. Trump he would "help to organize and run the largest deportation operation this country's ever seen. "Credit. Rebecca Noble for The New York Times.

The Supreme Court has upheld past uses of that law in wartime. But its text seems to require a link to the actions of a foreign government, so it is not clear whether the justices will allow a president to stretch it to encompass drug cartel activity.

More broadly, Mr. Miller said a new Trump administration would shift from the ICE practice of arresting specific people to carrying out workplace raids and other sweeps in public places aimed at arresting scores of unauthorized immigrants at once.

To make the process of finding and deporting undocumented immigrants already living inside the country "radically more quick and efficient," he said, the Trump team would bring in "the right kinds of attorneys and the right kinds of policy thinkers" willing to carry out such ideas.

And because of the magnitude of arrests and deportations being contemplated, they plan to build "vast holding facilities that would function as staging centers" for immigrants as their cases progress and they wait to be flown to other countries.

Mr. Miller said the new camps would likely be built "on open land in Texas near the border. ".

He said the military would construct them under the authority and control of the Department of Homeland Security. While he cautioned that there were no specific blueprints yet, he said the camps would look professional and similar to other facilities for migrants that have been built near the border.

Such camps could also enable the government to speed up the pace and volume of deportations of undocumented people who have lived in the United States for years and so are not subject to fast-track removal. If pursuing a long-shot effort to win permission to remain in the country would mean staying locked up in the interim, some may give up and voluntarily accept removal without going through the full process.

The use of these camps, Mr. Miller said, would likely be focused more on single adults because the government cannot indefinitely hold children under a longstanding court order known as the Flores settlement. So any families brought to the facilities would have to be moved in and out more quickly, he said.

The Trump administration tried to overturn the Flores settlement, but the Supreme Court did not resolve the matter before Mr. Trump's term ended. Mr. Miller said the Trump team would try again.

To increase the number of agents available for ICE sweeps, Mr. Miller said, officials from other federal law enforcement agencies would be temporarily reassigned, and state National Guard troops and local police officers, at least from willing Republican-led states, would be deputized for immigration control efforts.

While a law known as the Posse Comitatus Act generally forbids the use of the armed forces for law enforcement purposes, another law called the Insurrection Act creates an exception. Mr. Trump would invoke the Insurrection Act at the border, enabling the use of federal troops to apprehend migrants, Mr. Miller said.

"Bottom line," he said, "President Trump will do whatever it takes. ".

[CheckMate1]

What is dangerous about the hatred toward the court system is that if we do not have this system, what do we replace it with? Violence, survival of the fittest, who has more money wins, those with powers win?

Here's a simple idea:

When people (individuals / organizations / states) have disagreements they take their greivences to court. In court, a randomly selected Judge is the arbiter of facts, Jurors will determine which party wins based on which presentations is more convincing. Loser can appeal the decision to a higher court until it reaches its final destination, the Supreme Court. Everyone abides by the final decision.

Amazingly, we wrote this into our constitution because the system in England favored the rich, powerful, and connected.

Timeline: State of New York V Trump.

1. Trump was accused of Fraud and the plantiff is the citizen of New York (state). Prior to court trial, he made series of motions to dismiss, it was denied. He appealled and was denied.

2. Evidence Submission Process. NY supplied Trump with evidence to be presented at trial for Trump's defense.

3. Trump submitted motion for summary judgement. New York (Attorney General) submitted motion for summary judgement. NY wins all but 7 issues which go to trial for final determination.

4. Bench Trial (no Jurors); Trump team forgot to check the box for Jury Trial.

5. Both sides presented their evidence and witnesses with the burden of proof lies with the State of New York.

6. Judge determined that the state has satisfied the burden of proof and the State with wins the trial. Judgement of $350 million plus interest of $100 million (3 years at 9% Not operating a business in New York for 3 years; plus co-defendants also pay and have other stipulations on conducting business in NY.

Now Trump has 30 days to file an appeal, provided that he can find a bond agency to put up the cash in escrow, or Trump can put up the cash himself. If he wins appeal, he gets his money back.

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/file...p-decision.pdf

I don't see the controversy. If you were a NY AG, wouldn't you want to prosecute a business and get the money back to your citizen, if you believe you can prove it in court?

[Spidy]

If he sells one pair to Elvis for $399,000,000, that ought to do it for at least one of his several Fraud liabilities.

Really EihTooms? Come now! Even I know Elvis 2008, isn't that gullible!!!

Elvis 2008, would never pay MORE THAN $4 billion! (...kkkk!). Naturally, they'd have to be a personally autographed pair by Trump (and Melania?)

LOL. He got booed at his grand sneakers launch:

Donald Trump Booed Onstage While Promoting New $399 Sneakers.
Feb. 18, 2024

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...elphia-1870965

Launching this new potential Trump Fraud just months before he and his cult followers are drooling over the idea that he will take Office in the White House again, can it be assumed he has no intention of divesting himself of the control or benefits of this new business venture and will instead use the sale of those ugly shoes as a Money Laundering mechanism for political bribes in exchange for him "serving" China, Saudi Arabia and other USA adversaries?

Like he did with his failed golf resorts and condos last time.

With all that booing...you think the MAGA cult is finally catching on to his grifts? Or was it that they didn't perhaps like the color of the sneakers....kkkk!

[Spidy]

This is excerpted from the New York Times. Oh, if only somebody here was a subscriber because he loves these NYT articles so much and he could post the original NYT report:

Poll of historians ranks Biden 14th-best president, Trump worst.
Feb 18, 2024

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/20...est-president/

Finishing 45th overall, Trump trails even the mid-19th-century failures who blundered the country into a civil war or botched its aftermath like James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson.

Just love this post, as yet another prime example of how, everything Trump touches, literally turns to "shit", in one form or another.

Of course Dems and most Independents, already and without question, know "Trump is the WORST PRESIDENT in US history".

But having it published once again (especially since it's written by NYT), it serves as a reminder for Repubs, and should put this debate to bed once and for all.

[CheckMate1]

"Prostitution is legal in the USA hence the Nevada brothels, but the Feds are hell bent on finding ways to make it illegal by using the bullshit accusations like money laundering, human trafficking ETC. It amazes me how many sex workers have said they know very few if any women who have been trafficked, but we see endless warnings about it.

The fucking FBI can lie all they want AKA Russiagate but you cannot. You handled it right. You do not say anything with those assholes because they will lie about what you said.

The only good news is the perverted Democratic Department of Justice may have gone too far. I am sure you have heard about the $364 billion Trump verdict as Dems tried like crazy to spin it that there were victims with it when they were none. It was such bullshit that the truckers of America have had enough.

Truck drivers transport between 70% to 73% of all freight in the United States. Therefore, when truckers begin discussing plans on social media to boycott loads to progressive hellhole New York City, it's important to pay attention.

X user Chicago1 Ray, who appears to be a Midwest truck driver, shared a video late Friday night detailing that a number of truck drivers will begin denying loads to NYC on Monday.

"I don't know how far across the country this is. Or how many truckers are going start denying loads to NYC. But I'll tell you. You f**k around and find out," Chicago1 Ray said.

He continued: "We're tired of motherf**king leftist f**king with Trump. Okay. Motherfu**ers start to get tired of this shit. Our bosses aren't going to care if we deny loads. We'll go somewhere else. ".

"You know how hard it is to get in and out of NYC?" the trucker emphasized. I've been on the radio for over an hour and I've talked to at least (10) Truckers who are going to start refusing loads of Monday for (NYC) . I talked to (3) guys that I work with who texted the boss and told him no (NYC).

By Saturday morning, the video had amassed nearly 3 million views.

End of link. The truckers in Canada were the first ones who organized in mass against Covid and now we have to rely on their common sense again. I get their point. If you want to cost Trump $350 million on bullshit charges, we are going to hit you for $3 billion in damages you POS New Yorkers. I am done trying to convince these Dems of anything. They are so dumb they think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

What really gets me is the Covid crap we had to deal with. How many boosters you Dems get it? You still wearing masks and social distancing? Uh, why not? There is still Covid out there. You can still die from it just look at all the daily deaths in the world. Look up the numbers if you do not believe me.

It was only after states like Texas and Florida opened up that the gutless ones like California and New York saw the hits to their pocket books that they backed down. WAIT, YOU MEAN WE CANNOT JUST PRINT MONEY AND STAY HOME? That is what it is going to take with New York, getting hit in the pocket book.

I just hope the first thing Trump does when he gets in office is start over with law enforcement. Just destroy the corrupt FBI, CIA, and NSA and start fresh. They do way more harm than good. ".

They just cheated in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Washington Dc in 2020.

If they try this shit again in Nov, look out.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alexa...6xdVNdis6uwqfz

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-r...ve-trump-alone

Capitalism: One man refusal to truck products is another man's payday.

[CheckMate1]

I'm just wondering how long that gold coating is going to last as it looks like spray paint. But it doesn't matter for now as that model is already sold out. There's other shoe choices though. Be advised there's a three per order limit. Wink.

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/pages/faq

Like all things Trump, please read the fine prints or FAQs.

[EihTooms]

How many Americans died under Trump when fighting a stupid war? That would be none. That alone puts him ahead of a ton of presidents. Blaming covid on Trump is like blaming a president for people getting cancer. The surprising part to me in this day and age would be a bunch of deranged academics not putting Trump last.

With Biden, I would grade him and / A as he has not been mentally stable through most of his presidency. He won an election? BFD. What president did not?

Ended the pandemic? Well, there is 1. 1 million cases in the USA right now with Covid and people are still dying. What did he do to end it? Republican governors started opening up their states and Democratic ones started losing business and were forced to open too. More people died with Covid under Biden in 2021 than Trump in 2020. He didn't do shit with Covid outside of the pointless vax mandates and Covid swabs to re-enter the USA. Those acts were harmful, uncomfortable, unnecessary, and costly.

None? You must have gotten that grossly mistaken impression from the Worst President in History.

Naturally, the facts are wildly different.

Trump misleads on Afghanistan

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...d-659053265479

During Trumps presidency, which ran from January 20, 2017, to January 20, 2021, there were 45 combat deaths among U.S. service members reported in Afghanistan, as
well as 18 non-hostile deaths, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System.

According to my math, 45+18=58. Far from none.

https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/c...es/ofs/byMonth

Under Biden? 26 deaths. Total deaths. See link above.

That includes the 13 that were killed by a single loony suicide bomb that got past Trump's Victors, the Taliban, who were in total control of security during the withdrawal in accordance with Trump's total and complete surrender agreement to them.

Remember, Trump kept the United States of America directly involved in a combat war for every minute of every hour of every day of his miserable, Worst In History so-called presidency.

Since Biden's Least Deadly Withdrawal From an Occupied Country by the Loser in a War re the War in Afghanistan back in 2021, The United States of America has not been directly engaged in any combat war anywhere on the planet.

Oh, look, here is a bit more on those Bi-Partisan Historians' ranking of USA Presidents:

Biden 14th in scholars' presidential rankings, Trump last.

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/pol...gs--trump-last

other questions asked, respondents voted Trump as the most polarizing president ever. Carter was considered the most underrated commander-in-chief, while John F. Kennedy was voted the most
overrated.

Interesting. As overrated as they considered JFK to be, he still wound up in the Top 10.

[Elvis 2008]

This is excerpted from the New York Times. Oh, if only somebody here was a subscriber because he loves these NYT articles so much and he could post the original NYT report:

Poll of historians ranks Biden 14th-best president, Trump worst.
Feb
18, 2024
Finishing 45th overall, Trump trails even the mid-19th-century failures who blundered the country into a civil war or botched its aftermath like James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson.

How many Americans died under Trump when fighting a stupid war? That would be none. That alone puts him ahead of a ton of presidents. Blaming covid on Trump is like blaming a president for people getting cancer. The surprising part to me in this day and age would be a bunch of deranged academics not putting Trump last.

With Biden, I would grade him and / A as he has not been mentally stable through most of his presidency. He won an election? BFD. What president did not?

Ended the pandemic? Well, there is 1. 1 million cases in the USA right now with Covid and people are still dying. What did he do to end it? Republican governors started opening up their states and Democratic ones started losing business and were forced to open too. More people died with Covid under Biden in 2021 than Trump in 2020. He didn't do shit with Covid outside of the pointless vax mandates and Covid swabs to re-enter the USA. Those acts were harmful, uncomfortable, unnecessary, and costly.

There are at least 400,000 Ukrainians dead now and probably more Russians in a war that Biden could have stopped and did not, and these historians consider that a success? That is a failure of epic proportions IMO.

And we pay the taxes to fix roads and bridges. WTF does Biden have to do with that? Are we supposed to be grateful he just did not put that money in his pocket?

A far more interesting question was who was the WOAT pondered at Zero Hedge? The comments were priceless, educational, and unlike this moronic poll, a bit of a surprise. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-woat-president.

Thing is anyone who puts Obama, Trump, or even Biden on the WOAT list bores the piss out of me.

[EihTooms]

....
Who wouldn't love to see Adam Schiff Bubba and Mitt Romney in here.

https://www.aol.com/news/inside-puti...173146716.html

I say clear out Guantanamo today and get it ready for Jan 20.

I watched your and many other Winger's favorite pro Repub "Bothsider" Presidential Election Closer pundit, Bill Maher, last Friday night.

He showed the campaign ad for RFK, Jr. For President! That ran during the Super Bowl, just in case anyone in his viewing audience missed it and, as Bill surely hopes, might swing enough vote percentages to his beloved Trump to close the election for him as such a tiny "Bothsider" percentage did in 2016. And as it did for GW Bush in 2000 with Bill's incomparable assistance.

Bill introduced the ad as "the same one his (RFK, Jr's) Dad ran in his 1960 campaign for president" except with the necessary name change.

That was a long prepared and planned for segment. 67 year old Bill Maher was even referring to his notes to introduce it. Apparently, nobody else on his discussion panel or later, all under the age of 70, noticed and pointed out that glaringly obvious and, frankly, weird misstatement of history and relationship.

Oh, and nobody on Fux News or any MSM outlet has yet devoted so much a 15 seconds mentioning that public misstatement by the now "Most Trusted" pro Repub "Bothsider" pundit in America way last Friday.

Lolol.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Prostitution is legal in the USA hence the Nevada brothels, but the Feds are hell bent on finding ways to make it illegal by using the bullshit accusations like money laundering, human trafficking ETC. It amazes me how many sex workers have said they know very few if any women who have been trafficked, but we see endless warnings about it.

The fucking FBI can lie all they want AKA Russiagate but you cannot. You handled it right. You do not say anything with those assholes because they will lie about what you said.

The only good news is the perverted Democratic Department of Justice may have gone too far. I am sure you have heard about the $364 billion Trump verdict as Dems tried like crazy to spin it that there were victims with it when they were none. It was such bullshit that the truckers of America have had enough.

Truck drivers transport between 70% to 73% of all freight in the United States. Therefore, when truckers begin discussing plans on social media to boycott loads to progressive hellhole New York City, it's important to pay attention.

X user Chicago1 Ray, who appears to be a Midwest truck driver, shared a video late Friday night detailing that a number of truck drivers will begin denying loads to NYC on Monday.

"I don't know how far across the country this is. Or how many truckers are going start denying loads to NYC. But I'll tell you. You f**k around and find out," Chicago1 Ray said.

He continued: "We're tired of motherf**king leftist f**king with Trump. Okay. Motherfu**ers start to get tired of this shit. Our bosses aren't going to care if we deny loads. We'll go somewhere else. ".

"You know how hard it is to get in and out of NYC?" the trucker emphasized. I've been on the radio for over an hour and I've talked to at least (10) Truckers who are going to start refusing loads of Monday for (NYC) . I talked to (3) guys that I work with who texted the boss and told him no (NYC).

By Saturday morning, the video had amassed nearly 3 million views.

End of link. The truckers in Canada were the first ones who organized in mass against Covid and now we have to rely on their common sense again. I get their point. If you want to cost Trump $350 million on bullshit charges, we are going to hit you for $3 billion in damages you POS New Yorkers. I am done trying to convince these Dems of anything. They are so dumb they think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

What really gets me is the Covid crap we had to deal with. How many boosters you Dems get it? You still wearing masks and social distancing? Uh, why not? There is still Covid out there. You can still die from it just look at all the daily deaths in the world. Look up the numbers if you do not believe me.

It was only after states like Texas and Florida opened up that the gutless ones like California and New York saw the hits to their pocket books that they backed down. WAIT, YOU MEAN WE CANNOT JUST PRINT MONEY AND STAY HOME? That is what it is going to take with New York, getting hit in the pocket book.

I just hope the first thing Trump does when he gets in office is start over with law enforcement. Just destroy the corrupt FBI, CIA, and NSA and start fresh. They do way more harm than good. ".

They just cheated in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Washington Dc in 2020.

If they try this shit again in Nov, look out.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alexa...6xdVNdis6uwqfz

[MarquisdeSade1]

"What lies and which witnesses were those?

This is what Trump's own Department of Justice found regarding the FBI's necessary and totally justifiable investigation of Trump, Camp Trump and their extraordinarily deep and intense collusion with Russia all through the election:

There was only evidence against the FBI of making mistakes on the forms required to initiate their necessary and justifiable investigation and too little evidence of wrongdoing to charge whatever "lying" witnesses you are referring to.

"Russia, if you're listening", neither your top American political stooge Donald Trump nor your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media Tucker Carlson has yet uttered one word of criticism for your Murdering your political enemies. Actually, your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media has lovingly defended and supported it. ".

"Russia, if you're listening", neither your top American political stooge Donald Trump nor your and MAGA's top useful idiot in the media Tucker Carlson has yet uttered one word of criticism for your Murdering your political enemies. ".

Who wouldn't love to see Adam Schiff Bubba and Mitt Romney in here.

https://www.aol.com/news/inside-puti...173146716.html

I say clear out Guantanamo today and get it ready for Jan 20.

[EihTooms]

This is excerpted from the New York Times. Oh, if only somebody here was a subscriber because he loves these NYT articles so much and he could post the original NYT report:

Poll of historians ranks Biden 14th-best president, Trump worst.
Feb
18, 2024

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/20...est-president/

A new poll of historians coming out on Presidents Day weekend ranks Biden as the 14th-best president in American history,
just ahead of Woodrow Wilson, Ronald Reagan and Ulysses S. Grant. While that may not get Biden a spot on Mount Rushmore, it certainly puts him well ahead of Trump, who places dead last as the worst president in the nations history. Indeed, Biden may owe his place in the top third in part to Trump. Although he has claims to a historical legacy by managing the end of the COVID pandemic; rebuilding the nations roads, bridges and other infrastructure; and leading an international coalition against Russian aggression, Bidens signature accomplishment, according to the historians, was evicting Trump from the Oval Office.

"Bidens most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from
Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessors hands this fall, wrote Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the college professors who conducted the survey and announced the results in The Los Angeles Times.

Trump might not care much what a bunch of academics think, but for what its worth he fares badly even among the self-identified
Republican historians. Finishing 45th overall, Trump trails even the mid-19th-century failures who blundered the country into a civil war or botched its aftermath like James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson.

[Paulie97]

You know what?...I think this may yet be the best single idea, Trump, has pushed on his cult followers. Yes, way better than an NFT.

The good thing is, at the very east it'll be easy enough, for the rest of us to spot, the gullible MAGA cult, in public. (...kkkk!)

I'm just wondering how long that gold coating is going to last as it looks like spray paint. But it doesn't matter for now as that model is already sold out. There's other shoe choices though. Be advised there's a three per order limit. Wink.

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/

[Spidy]

Have Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham picked up a pair?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/17/polit...ial/index.html

You know what?...I think this may yet be the best single idea, Trump, has pushed on his cult followers. Yes, way better than an NFT.

The good thing is, at the very east it'll be easy enough, for the rest of us to spot, the gullible MAGA cult, in public. (...kkkk!)

Perhaps in 20-30 years. Look at the SCOTUS composition where this repeal would inevitably end up even if victorious.

Unfortunately, true! But a lot can happen in 20-30 years.

[EihTooms]

Didn't he prepare and rehearse his statement extensively on this one topic for that brief and long term planned interview? He is a Repub Congressman. By definition that means he is not busy doing anything else for his paycheck.

Also, the 47 year old interviewer didn't correct him. Maybe she didn't notice it because she is too old for her job, too.

GOP Rep. Promises 'President Johnson' Will Save Ukraine.
Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) mistakenly called House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) "president" during an interview about the importance of defending Ukraine.

https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/g...t-johnson-will

"Well, President Johnson has made a number of public statements committing to finding a pathway for the aid for Ukraine," Turner proclaimed. "I believe him. I think that we will."

Welker did not correct the congressman.

That would have been worth at least 2 prime time hours of attention on Fux News every night for a week and on Mainstream Media for at least 3 nights if Joe Biden had uttered that misstatement. LOL.