General Info

[Travis McGee]

I appreciate all the responses to my query about Pinay anal. Thank you all. I look forward to hearing from more guys who have had experience with asking for or being offered the backdoor experience in The Philippines. In the meantime, here are my comments on the responses I've received so far.

PhilJoy, in my experience it is indeed a matter of negotiation. I am upfront about my desires. To be sure, some women say "no way, no how," which saves us both time. Those who say "yes" or "maybe" do charge more for anal, which is fine with me. I would NEVER attempt anal by way of surprise.

Aml3740, I can certainly see how bad experiences with guys who attempted anal without cooperation and consent would turn women off to the whole project. But that's not my modus operandi. As for it being "dirty," I've had backdoor sex hundreds of times with at least 20 women. Only once or twice have gotten a little mud on my shaft, but that comes with the territory.

Geneva Guy, your response gives me hope because it's written from your firsthand perspective. I hope I meet some Filipinas who are as open-minded as the women you describe.

Sammon, I'm not convinced that refusing anal sex is a religious or specifically Catholic or Christian thing. Certainly the women in South and Central America whose backdoors I have entered had no hang-ups about it, despite being Catholic. Nor have the Dutch, German, and Greek women I've been with.

AggieDad1, I'the like to see that journal article. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I have had long-term relationships with two women both of whom were anal enthusiasts and have had casual sex with many more who enjoy it, especially when it's combined with clitoral stimulation. Perhaps it has a lot to do with how they were introduced to backdoor sex. Maybe only 20% of the women in the survey had first experiences with men who take it slow, use lots of lube, and begin with fingering or a small toy.

[AggieDad1]

In my experience NO. I have had only two anal experience in Philippines. Both times it was kind of long time girlfriends. They are the ones who suggested and wanted to experience it. Both did not like it much. I think it has to do with religion. Catholics believe sex is only for procreation.

Unlike Hindu Kamasutra where everything is game Christian religion is not. Sexual positions are well represented in ancient Hindu temples but not at all in Christian monuments.

I read in a medical journal several years ago that only 20% of people have the nerves in the rectum that allows for anal sex to be enjoyable. In my exploits over the years I have only ran into two women who actually enjoyed it. For me one time in Thailand a lady offered to do "rimming" on me. I guess I am in the 80% because it did nothing for me.

[Locamotive]

Moved to the Gen Info thread.

Another article about the same woman:

https://www.businessinsider.com/esco...drosis-2023-12

It appears she can earn more than $100 k USD per month. From the article:

For Mia Lee, time is money. Lee, a 35-year-old professional escort and stripper based in New York City, has streamlined her entire life so that she can maximize time with her clients and boost her earnings. Her efficiency has helped her rake in almost $68,000 during the first two weeks of December alone, Business Insider previously reported.

I think, Teej, you are thinking transaction-ally. Which is fine, in and of itself. Would you pay $100 USD for a cup of coffee in the US, when you could pay $1 for something similar in another place? Its fine if you answer no to that question, as long as you are ok to people who would answer yes to that question. Its not reasonable to think the 'yes' folks are in coffee hell. I've met folks with more money than me who spend more on things for good reason: They just have a lot of disposable cash. Anything that is convenient, or immediately comfortable (ie, a previous ho who was kind to him and developed a report with him) gets the call, regardless of price. Why ask your assistant to get you a fresh hottie tonight (with uncertain chemistry) for a $5,000 USD 1-hour pop, when you can call Melissa yourself (who you've had several times and in addition to good sex, was good company) for a $20,000 all-nighter? From rich farmers to tech execs, some people don't really have spending limits like us regular Joe's..

Agree this lady is not attractive. I've said this before, I travel allot around US and women here are sad. They are either fat, ugly or too old. If you do spot a attractive one she has a ring on her finger that would choke a horse. Paying prices listed I guess is not surprising in this pussy hell hole but that type of money you could travel. Why they don't I do not know. Like once with me two cute Asian girls in Vegas wanted $2500 each, of course I laughed. Ladies that's 5 grand which would pay my trip to Asia for a month and I would have many who look like you and better plus GFE which I'm sure you are not. With a scorn on their face they said well then you should go, this is the US not Asia. Granted the travel is a pain but in the end the benefits outweigh the travel. This place sucks for women and anyone paying those prices here I think should have their head examined.

[Sammon]

Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?

In my experience NO. I have had only two anal experience in Philippines. Both times it was kind of long time girlfriends. They are the ones who suggested and wanted to experience it. Both did not like it much. I think it has to do with religion. Catholics believe sex is only for procreation.

Unlike Hindu Kamasutra where everything is game Christian religion is not. Sexual positions are well represented in ancient Hindu temples but not at all in Christian monuments.

[Geneva Guy]

Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?

I have had a pretty good experience with anal with filiipinas. First one begged me to "fuck my ass honey" so I did. Next one I talked to online about it for some time then when we met, first round deep in her pussy, second deep in her ass unloading my bals. We did a bunch of anal after that. 3rd one wanted anal but never got around to it, such a tight little pussy. I guess YMMV on this but whatever you do, lube up stick fingers in (and have her squeeze to release the sphiincter muscles) and work your way in.

GG.

[Aml3740]

Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?

Just personal experience here. Every Filipina I've met says they don't want anal. I married a pinay two years ago, and she was curious about it, so we tried it and she liked it. A pinay GF before said she wanted to try it with me, but I broke things off before we did.

I may be wrong here, but I think most Filipino men are just as adventurous sexually as anyone else. From the girls who told me they had attempted or experienced anal from a Filipino BF, the experience really borders on rape. They were consenting to vaginal sex, and he suddenly tried to cram it up her ass without lube or anything else to help it not be painful. No wonder it isn't well-received.

The. There is the perception that it is dirty. Which it is if you don't prepare properly.

[PhilJoy]

Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?

Hi Travis. Whilst my personal preference is a nice little Filipino pussy, a few girls have mentioned to me from the outset, "Not in the Butt" or similar. I don't think it's a country specific thing. I think it would be a negotiation and the more money you have in your wallet, the better chance you have. Having said that, I wouldn't advise 'surprising' a girl by 'throwing it up the back door' without her prior knowledge.

[Travis McGee]

Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?

[WestCoast1]

I threw up a little in my mouth.

What the actual hell is going on in America these days? Actually, don't even want to know.

Sorry RA, just saw this. My post before was not a description of what is / was happening in America, it was a description of what one woman has been doing. There is nothing unique about high-end hookers in any country. There are enough rich wall-street type guys in NYC who think as little of paying $10,000 USD / hour as you or I do for paying for a cup of coffee at 7-11, to keep high-end girls in business.

What I will say here might bother some: The more expensive a girl is, does not necessarily mean she is more hot. Some high-end girls who are less hot often stay in the game by plying GFE / pampering experience (or alternately, she becomes a dominatrix). Many of us might say: "Why would you pay so much for that average woman when you can go to Thailand / Columbia / Moscow for a killer bod?" It is a logical question; but I think it doesn't matter why, as many wealthy fellas are just fine staying at home, taking the girls that please them (not us).

For the rest of America, there are attractive incall / outcall girls at $300-$500/ HR (strict time limit, covered, the opposite of GFE), and AMP massage parlors for happy ending. There are also strip clubs, with varying results.

I have seen a similar thing in Phils. There are fellas who travel to Phils and take an average-looking (6 or 7) FL gal for a week or two, including island-hopping (Boracay, Palawan), never sex her, and give her good coin for her time. We have tried on this board to quantify our game, but there are elements of the game that can't be quantified.

[Member #4794]

A seasoned mongers view on Bangkok / thailand VS manila / AC / philippines.

I have to lead with I am biased towards the philippines.

Everything in Bangkok was more costly than what I pay in the philippines regarding sex and I am counting time and effort. The women in thailand were generally more wrinkled up and if not they were generally more expensive. The language barrier was just like it was the last time I was in Bangkok horrible. I can speak thai but needing to speak thai to get along with these girls feels synthetic and kind of ruins my time. My thai is not the best and this is all I have to rely on it to try to relate feelings with only a limited vocabulary. Sure you will see some attractive thai women but chances they will be attractive speak english AND not be a veteran of 5+ years is slim to none.

I like that in the philippines I can pick up a girl who is new to the game and get to know her on some level. I enjoy being able to relate to her and understand at least a modicum of how she ticks and her life. I find it a much more fulfilling "relationship". So in this sense Bangkok and thailand for the most part falls short for me. I was there for some time but I brought along some pussy with me and had the opportunity to partake as well but I decided not to. It just felt like I was going to a fast food joint and ordering some overpriced pussy.

I usually monger close to the lao border where the girls feel more genuine and sweet over all which I can't get enough off but the big city BKK liberal girls are not for me anymore I have grown out of it.

Bangkok does have better food BKK wins here by a land slide the food in the philippines is all trash in comparison. Tourist attractions in thailand wins hands down and accommodations are nicer and generally more affordable.

But I think the philippines beats thailand in a few key areas that mean much more to me. Such as access to creampies, deeper relationships, and due to people generally speaking english it is easier to be accepted into the Philippine community as a whole. I don't think a foreigner ever really get accepted into thai culture unless you do all of the buddhist crap like become a monk and I am just not interested in that.

While I think Thailand beats the philippines in every external way. I think the philippines beats places like thailand where you have a language barrier to contend with in an intangible internal way. Pinay Catholic girls really have spoiled me I think for right now I just prefer my catholic pinay pussy. You may disagree but this is just my opinion.

[Roll Aides]

Moved to the Gen Info thread.

I threw up a little in my mouth.

What the actual hell is going on in America these days? Actually, don't even want to know.

[WestCoast1]

Regarding prices, service, looks, and the good old days in Europe as discussed in the Manila thread previously. A browse thru the first ISG London page (first 4 posts below), and the first 2 pages of Paris, shows a hodge-podge of mongers having to find a good massage parlour, or use escorts (little else) with strict time limits. Very difficult for outsiders to navigate as there is little point-and-shoot. And prices higher that the good-old-daze (pre-covid). Germany comes out the big winner with FKK clubs. Give me SE Asia.

Although 80 quid /1/2 hour is not bad I'm a little disappointed one has to pay first.

Finished the deed about 5 minutes left and I promised to return sometime soon. She said, she is there twice a week. Damage: 80 for 30 minutes.

Seems to have upped her price as I'm sure I paid 150 ish for the hour and she's now quoting 200.

Her stated age of 40 is probably accurate. You can tell that from her face but she has a very fit and well maintained body, definitely hits the gym regularly. Pics of her body are accurate but pics of face have light filters applied, still pretty though. Wir; not at her new prices, not worth that kind of money IMHO.

60 pounds for DATY, CBJ, and CFS standing K9. This was for 10 minutes of sex time. On a Sunday I saw Claudia (Brazilian) at 28 Peter st (upper floor). 60 pounds for LFK, DATY, CBJ, and CFS standing K9. Finished with CBJ . Olive skin, scar across her stomach probably from a tummy tuck. Also big naturals but probably the. Also very friendly but I think she was happy that we spoke in a language other than English. This was 10 min but might have run a little longer .

France:

Loads of fakes and poor providers in France.

Nah. I love Paris, personally. But you need to be quite experienced to find what you're looking for . Sirioja is experienced, no doubt, but maybe he is a bit jaded with the selection here. Not me, though.

I make no promises since I have already put Paris hobbying behind me.

I gave up and prefer to drive every week end except for holidays to Germany. There, I can really see and decide. I may be too picky now for level in Paris which is my town since birth .

[Dg8787]

Thanks for a lot of good advice and tips. And especially this eye opener.

I'm in good shape, and is usualy out for 2-3 hours walking every day.

Budget aprox Euro 200 pr day?? Or should this be increast.

I have some experience with German FKK clubs. But that is FFFG (find, fuck and forget).

Now I'm actually looking for a lady who can also be nice to have breakfast with. And it will be a slightly different starting point.

I don't want to ruin my vacation by making a deal with a jealous, controlling lady. At the same time, I want to avoid dramatic scenes when I leave the Philippines.

I have to think a little more carefully about what might be the best. But it's nice planning. If there are more tips, they are welcome. If you have contacts I can use, please send a PM.

I will keep you updated along the way.

How is the planning coming along?

What are your timing in January and where?

[WestCoast1]

Fellas, Noche Buena is almost upon us. Santa is firing up his ride. Hoping you can find a goodie, a bit like this one who, at 4' 10" and 75 lbs, has a nice touchy and some fossales lombalez thingys. Open your goodies in private, as this one and I have done multiple times.

[WestCoast1]

Moved to the Gen Info thread.

Would you pay 35 k dollars for this ho ho ho. Some guys must be in pussy hell for a long time to bang this ugly chick. They could have flown to ac and stayed for a year and banged just as ugly for 50 dollars.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/18/busine...o-wall-street/

Another article about the same woman:

https://www.businessinsider.com/esco...drosis-2023-12

It appears she can earn more than $100 k USD per month. From the article:

For Mia Lee, time is money. Lee, a 35-year-old professional escort and stripper based in New York City, has streamlined her entire life so that she can maximize time with her clients and boost her earnings. Her efficiency has helped her rake in almost $68,000 during the first two weeks of December alone, Business Insider previously reported.

I think, Teej, you are thinking transaction-ally. Which is fine, in and of itself. Would you pay $100 USD for a cup of coffee in the US, when you could pay $1 for something similar in another place? Its fine if you answer no to that question, as long as you are ok to people who would answer yes to that question. Its not reasonable to think the 'yes' folks are in coffee hell. I've met folks with more money than me who spend more on things for good reason: They just have a lot of disposable cash. Anything that is convenient, or immediately comfortable (ie, a previous ho who was kind to him and developed a report with him) gets the call, regardless of price. Why ask your assistant to get you a fresh hottie tonight (with uncertain chemistry) for a $5,000 USD 1-hour pop, when you can call Melissa yourself (who you've had several times and in addition to good sex, was good company) for a $20,000 all-nighter? From rich farmers to tech execs, some people don't really have spending limits like us regular Joe's.

That miss Lee commands large immediate cash is proof that high-end ladies exist almost everywhere (notice I did not say extremely pretty ladies). Hi-end gals command the attention of rich folk for whatever reason, and they are not always the most attractive. We are accustomed to getting Manila FL for $60-ish USD LT, or AC gogo gals for $80-ish USD, province girls for $20-ish USD for LT, or Burgos (and BKK) gogo girls for $200-ish USD for LT. That's quite a range. Is it possible that there are Phils escorts (or girls working privately by word of mouth) commanding $1000 USD (or more) per hour? Of course there are. There will be similar in every country. Can you find younger and prettier than Miss Lee in other countries, for much less? Yes of course, that's why we are here. But the market is the market, and Miss Lee will continue to command her rate until she can't. These fellas aren't in pussy (or coffee) hell. They just have more money than they know what to do with, and 'speaks-4-languages' Miss Lee is gobbling it up.