Phnom Penh

[HanoiMongers]

Any useful intel on Hanoi would be appreciated. I often go to HCM but have Viet partner & family in tow, which makes things very difficult. Been trying to get to DaNang & Nha Trang.

Didn't know the scene was so good in Hanoi or is it a case of a lot of groundwork to find the gems?

NI.

I spent a lot of time figuring out the scene. There are many different types of scenes in Ha Noi, a lot of underground shit going on. I have been here almost 11 years and I speak Vietnamese so that is a huge huge plus. I have some local Vietnamese friends where I have taken them to areas and they were blown away that I knew about this place, as they didn't. Ha Noi has the best talent I have ever seen, you just have to know where to go, who to deal with and how to navigate, it is nothing like the south at all. But the girls here are amazing, plus I bang a lot of normal girls for free.

[NewImage]

I have been going to Cambodia for 15 years, I live in Vietnam and have traveled all over SEA and know the scenes in each country. PP is by far my favorite place ,2nd to Hanoi, PP is absolutely amazing and there are some really hot girls there. It blows Thailand out of the water. What happens inside the bars in PP does not happen in Thailand. I have shot so many loads inside the bars in PP, have had so many great girls over the years.

Any useful intel on Hanoi would be appreciated. I often go to HCM but have Viet partner & family in tow, which makes things very difficult. Been trying to get to DaNang & Nha Trang.

Didn't know the scene was so good in Hanoi or is it a case of a lot of groundwork to find the gems?

NI.

[Betong]

What's your method of getting the good ones in Cambodia?

The main thing is just putting in time on the ground. Basically, like someone else said here, I seldom bother with the big flashy bars with dozens and dozens of girls out front looking all tarted up. I try to get to know the smaller places along St. 5 or around the corner on St. 118 and 110. Turnover is pretty rapid and when I go back they'll often introduce me to a new girl or two. But of course the good ones get snapped up quickly, often never to return. And as I say, many speak almost no English.

[WintersLight]

I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.

Thanks Betong, Nyezhov, HanoiM, and KinkiT. Only limited experience in PP and BKK (see my posts from a few weeks back), and taste / desire is entirely personal, but for me the main difference was the relative lack of plastic surgery, implants, and excessive tattoos in Cambodia compared to Thailand. Sure there's certainly plenty of young, un-modified women in Thailand who are genuine, but they tend to be overshadowed by so many ladies with bodies that look like lampposts with watermelons tied to the front and stickers stuck onto the back, LOL. The P4 P scene in Bangkok is so much easier and simpler to navigate overall, though, and the sheer # of options overshadow PP, and of course many mongers prefer that thin, enhanced look anyway, so it's easy to say BKK wins out overall in terms of visiting.

We could debate the pros / cons of the girls forever, though, and in PP I kind of avoided the busy riverside streets (130,136) that seemed to have more the more jaded girls. But along those streets, what are the bars that are the best to find friendlier girls that are open to ST / LT, and which are the ones where the girls are mainly just hostess types, ready to string you along and flirt while you buy them drinks, but then send you home alone while they go back to taking pictures of themselves and playing with filters on their phone? I know much of it just depends on personal connection, but if there are particular bars that the veterans here recommend (or recommend to avoid), it'd be good to hear.

Speaking of bars, what's up with White Cats / Blue Cats? I've been checking out their FB feed now and again, where a lot of their admittedly cute girls dance in front of the camera, but it seems like they're all just happy doing that. Sometimes they'll be customers in there for like 30-45 mins or longer, which seems about 25-40 mins too long if there's any hope of taking girls home.

Thanks all.

[HanoiMongers]

I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.

I have been going to Cambodia for 15 years, I live in Vietnam and have traveled all over SEA and know the scenes in each country. PP is by far my favorite place ,2nd to Hanoi, PP is absolutely amazing and there are some really hot girls there. It blows Thailand out of the water. What happens inside the bars in PP does not happen in Thailand. I have shot so many loads inside the bars in PP, have had so many great girls over the years.

[NRandom940]

I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.

What's your method of getting the good ones in Cambodia?

[Betong]

I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.

[Nyezhov]

More like no accounting for respect.

Why do you care what his preferences are and insist on belittling him? He's providing good reports with thoughtful reasoning.

What are you the Forum police? Doesn't matter about the quality of his reports, the girls are ugly. I think if you surveyed a thousand random board members who have experience both in Cambodia and in Thailand as to where the better looking girls are, it sure as hell isn't going to be Cambodia. I don't particularly care about his preferences, I just don't want newcomers here to think that there walking into a Miss Universe pageant.

[Fantasys]

More like no accounting for respect.

Why do you care what his preferences are and insist on belittling him? He's providing good reports with thoughtful reasoning.

Agree I like the Phnom Penh and riverside.

Any one will be there to night?

[Euphori]

To each his own. No accounting for taste.

More like no accounting for respect.

Why do you care what his preferences are and insist on belittling him? He's providing good reports with thoughtful reasoning.

[Nyezhov]

Well said, bottom line for me, after spending months in both countries. Like many other things, in Thailand I know what's waiting for me is comfort and fun. Girls who want purely my money or to be my exclusive GF.

In Cambo, what's waiting for me is cute young normal girls, students and such, who like to have fun, going out, and have amazing sex and fun while I support them, not much for me but they have to work a week for it.

In Thailand I can schedule with 3 girls and neither will show up as they might have got better offers, In Cambo, Girls reach out to me and then I pay less and they even stay the night.

In Thailand for every hot chick I'm competing with many other men while in Cambo the hot girls are competing for me.

So maybe not as much comfort but much more exciting.

And yes the girls are much hotter, In Thailand from 50 girls you see 2-3 hot ones, In PP you only need only around 10 for that.

To each his own. No accounting for taste.

[KinkiTourist]

I agree with both of you. Generalizations muddy the water. There are cute, young Thai birds just as there are such Khmer birds. Cambo is poorer than Thai, so you find less food addiction, less Miss Piggy, less tattoo craze, less professional jaded sex workers. On average more amateur, more try and see, less reliable to get the average punter where he or she wants to go, but if you have game and are willing to sacrifice "service" for "vacation roamance", Cambo is rewarding.

Well said, bottom line for me, after spending months in both countries. Like many other things, in Thailand I know what's waiting for me is comfort and fun. Girls who want purely my money or to be my exclusive GF.

In Cambo, what's waiting for me is cute young normal girls, students and such, who like to have fun, going out, and have amazing sex and fun while I support them, not much for me but they have to work a week for it.

In Thailand I can schedule with 3 girls and neither will show up as they might have got better offers, In Cambo, Girls reach out to me and then I pay less and they even stay the night.

In Thailand for every hot chick I'm competing with many other men while in Cambo the hot girls are competing for me.

So maybe not as much comfort but much more exciting.

And yes the girls are much hotter, In Thailand from 50 girls you see 2-3 hot ones, In PP you only need only around 10 for that.

[Nyezhov]

I agree with both of you. Generalizations muddy the water. There are cute, young Thai birds just as there are such Khmer birds. Cambo is poorer than Thai, so you find less food addiction, less Miss Piggy, less tattoo craze, less professional jaded sex workers. On average more amateur, more try and see, less reliable to get the average punter where he or she wants to go, but if you have game and are willing to sacrifice "service" for "vacation roamance", Cambo is rewarding.

Khmer girls age out fast and are usually thicker and more "natural" looking. I've smashed Khmer girls in the past but now I save my cash for monthly BKK runs.

[Philosophus]

Feeling bad for me is a weird choice of words I guess. But I like natural unexperienced young girls which I find common and accessible, don't like the slutty and professional type. These girls are perfect, in Thailand most girls had some flaws to my taste in face or body.

I agree with both of you. Generalizations muddy the water. There are cute, young Thai birds just as there are such Khmer birds. Cambo is poorer than Thai, so you find less food addiction, less Miss Piggy, less tattoo craze, less professional jaded sex workers. On average more amateur, more try and see, less reliable to get the average punter where he or she wants to go, but if you have game and are willing to sacrifice "service" for "vacation roamance", Cambo is rewarding.

[KinkiTourist]

If you think Khmer girls in general are better looking than Thai girls I feel bad for you.

Feeling bad for me is a weird choice of words I guess. But I like natural unexperienced young girls which I find common and accessible, don't like the slutty and professional type. These girls are perfect, in Thailand most girls had some flaws to my taste in face or body.