Phnom Penh

[WintersLight]

Poor Phnom Penh can't get much love in these forums, it seems. Last post was more than a month ago. I recently returned from a week in the city, my second long-term visit in 2024. (You can find my earlier report in January). While I spent five of the seven nights with my regular, a bargirl I had met in January and kept in touch with through WhatsApp, I did have time for a couple of other experiences. Here are some notes from the ground.

Regular bar streets of 136/130 still give the illusion of being busy, with lots of girls out front all shouting for your attention, little kids running around, vendors selling whatever, etc, but walk around a couple of times and you'll notice there aren't that many other customers on the street. Maybe they're all inside the bars already, but it does seems like a quiet time period, even for the low season. News reports indicate that the city has plans to upgrade the 136 area and turn it into a more high-class pedestrian area, with plans for higher-class shops and businesses, so it makes you wonder how long it will stay around?

136 and even 130 are still too busy for me, and while many of the girls do look young (in the 18--21 range that is, not underaged young), most didn't appeal that much to me. Instead I checked out the bars on 110,118, and even 104, which are a bit quieter. (Strangely the freelancers standing outside Oscar's On the Corner on 104 looked really good this time, but they may have also been staff for the new bar right underneath it, called Tinder.) A young woman sitting outside of Double the Bar on Street 110 finally caught my eye, for her somewhat decently sized breasts that were well displayed by her outfit. (They weren't double the's, that's for sure, and whatever they were disappeared in half once she took off her push-up bra, LOL). There were about five women out front, one of whom may have been a railthin LB, but I went into the bar with my new friend and sat down at a booth to have a drink. You can drink at the bar there, but they do have more private booths, and a pool table in the back. My new friend didn't speak much English, but we muddled through with Google Translate. I could tell she was shy, so I didn't press things much at first, but I soon put my arm around her, caressed her neck, and later put my other hand along her bare leg. After a bit we were kissing, and then after that I asked her if she was interested in going out with me. I think it's important to first see what the girl is like before asking this, and spend some time warming her up or chatting her up, as the answer may be different if you ask the question immediately after meeting her. But you don't have to buy her 3-4 drinks before doing this; sometimes it only takes one drink, but sometimes it might take two. I only buy two if I know the first drink has gone well. She shyly said, 'for you, $80. ' I laughed and said, 'Well I am flattered, but usually it is $45?" (I knew we'd meet in the middle, but wanted to start low, but not low enough that she'd be insulted). So she countered with, 'well, up to you,' and we agreed on $55 for two hours. I made sure to clarify that DFK and a few other things were on the menu for no surprise charges, she agreed.

We headed back to the hotel and things went well, lots of joking in the shower and some lengthy foreplay / kissing / DATY, though by the time FS started I probably took longer than she expected / wanted / was used to, as after about 10 mins of penetration she looked like she was in discomfort. I volunteered more lube but quickly finished, as she was saying she was "sick. " (Always good for your ego, to have a girl say how sick she suddenly is, haha). She may have meant her period had started, as there was a bit of blood on the sheets. Things then got rushed, as she wanted to leave, and I wasn't in the mood to keep her around. (Remember its in your best interest to delay coming if you want a longer session, as it's a steep slope from orgasm to shower to out the door.) I assumed she wanted to leave to get back to work, but maybe her period had started, or maybe she was ill, who knows, but it felt rushed. (It was about a 90 min session, though). Overall the girl was cute, she was only 22 so maybe inexperienced (it was her first month there, she said, but it's always every bargirls first month there, isn't it? But I wouldn't repeat, or even recommend Double the. There seemed to be no mamasan there (which to me seems important as it's a figurehead to guarantee some level of service), it felt more like an assortment of freelancers there than a working crew of ladies, and most of the other girls didn't seem that attractive. Oddly, two days later I was walking by, and she gave me the biggest smile and wave I've ever seen. Said she had been thinking of me, but I wasn't falling for it.

Another night I walked into the reincarnated Cyrcee's Secret Bar, way off the main drag towards the Central Market. Zero foot traffic there. I had actually stopped by to check out the bar around the corner, Sona Horny Secret Bar, as I had a good experience there in January, but this time it was pretty quiet. The mamasan did remember me though and we talked for a bit, and she even brought out one of the girls I had taken out last time (the less attractive one, alas). Walking by Cyrcee's, though, it started pouring rain, and I paused to fist-bump and joke with a little Blasian kid out front, and then talk with who I thought was his mom or the mamasan, but who turned out to be a bargirl. As the rain wasn't stopping, I went inside to have a drink with her. She was mid-30's (I know, I know), and with two VERY young looking, very cute girls of 18, one of whom was the bartender / cashier. I figured they were just for display and turns out I was right, as mid-30's lady gave me a full rundown on the system of most bars in the city. Turns out that most bars offer up some "originals," 18-year-old eye-candy virgins, to draw the punters in and get their hopes up. The virgins continue to just look at their phones while the guys buy them drinks, offer their virginal states up for an outrageous price, and then when they still turn the customers down, the older ladies in the room sweep in to snare the men. She had previously worked at Ostro on 136, and noted that most of the 136 bars operated on that principle.

Anyway, she was fun to talk with and spoke excellent English, and in the soft light of the bar started looking pretty nice, especially as it was my last night in PP. (My regular had gone down to Kampot for a friend's birthday). Same courtship idea: one drink, some light caressing and heavy flattery, and then the question. She offered $60, I countered with $40, and she agreed to that, though I did say that I'd tip well if she was nice to me. As it was her first month at the bar (LOL, again? What a coincidence! And I didn't want to go to my hotel (too far), she had to ask the bartender / cashier where the shorttime hotel was. It turned out to be on the same street as the one I had gone to in January with the SoNa Horny girls, so I just took her there myself. We had a very nice three hours there, for $40, plus $8 hotel, $10 drinks, and $10 barfine.

With my regular girl, she'd either come over to meet me at my hotel around midnight and stay until 5 am (when she would turn into a pumpkin, or have to get home to facetime her mom, or help her little brother wake up for school, or some other excuse), or she'd come over even earlier and we'd have dinner together somewhere nice, or, twice, I even went over to her bar to pick her up. This was mainly for me to pay respects to her mama-san, buy some drinks for them, and be polite, so that the mama-san wouldn't mind that I was taking her best money-making girl out of the bar early every night. Cambodians, even bargirls, seem to really be into the collective and into treating coworkers like family, so if you make an effort to understand that, and buy a couple of $5 drinks for your lady's friends and bosses, it will pay off for you very well in the long run. Costs for her were $50 for a 4-6 hour session, and sometimes a $15 barfine, and once or twice some drinks of about $12-$20. (Out of five evenings with her, I paid the barfine just twice). Having a regular was very nice, BTW, a guarantee that you'd have a good solid connection with someone, an evening that would always work out well, etc.

All told, Phnom Penh is a rewarding spot if you have the patience to play the bargirl game: don't storm in there hoping to pull a girl out immediately, but expect to spend a bit of time sitting with them, be patient and polite, and especially polite to the mamasan, and you'll be fine. But if you're on drink #3 or 4, though, and haven't gotten any clearer with what's going to happen afterwards, then pull out. They'll be another girl, another bar, that will work. PP is also an evening game, as most bars only open at 4 pm or 6 pm, so it's not really an all-day kind of scene like Bangkok. Plastic surgery and tattoos aren't QUITE as prevalent, so if you like more natural girls it's an especially nice place. Cambodian attitudes (in general) remind me more of Filipinos than Vietnamese or Chinese or even Thai, that's for sure; super friendly and laid back, with a very easy-going vibe all round. Along the riverside you'll encounter the usual hustle culture, especially from the tuktuk drivers, but a 'no thank you (At te, orkun", Bong," usually chills them out.

Finally, I stayed mostly at the Tao Riverside, great rooms overlooking the river and a good location a couple of blocks from 136. But a bit awkward as it's a narrow entrance and you have to walk right by the front desk to get to the elevators, so staff will definitely see and meet everyone you're bringing in. Also, they seem to lock the door around 2 am, so you have to buzz the intercom and wake up the (always) sleeping guard to let you and your date in. He's usually less than enthused about being woken up, and may be a bit grumpy while checking your girl's ID. (They will just take a photo of it). This also means that if the girl is leaving from 2 am-6 am, they will then have to wake the guard up so he can let them out.

[Nyezhov]

Could you please recommend someone in Bangkok for HG weed. Thank you.

I assume you mean down by the fun area, try the Dutch seed place near Thermae. If you're going to leave The Tourist district, you can go to happy cannabis in bang pho or Fat Buds in Ekkamai. If the Nepalese kid on the corner of soy Arab is back in operation, which depends on the cops, he has super quality weed, tell him that you were referred by the old American guy that lives in Cambodia.

[Duolingy]

My mongering advice: go to Thailand once a month.

HG weed should be between $8-12 a g. I'm smoking basic Bangkok at $3. There is delivery there too.

There are no BJs in Cambodia.

Could you please recommend someone in Bangkok for HG weed. Thank you.

[Fantasys]

Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.

I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.

For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.

Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.

I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.

I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.

I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.

They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.

To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.

Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?

Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?

Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.

Sure, Thailand is better, thai girls are more understanding, not only boom boom and go. And easy to find one who speak english.

[Nyezhov]

Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.

I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.

For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.

Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.

I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.

I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.

I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.

They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.

To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.

Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?

Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?

Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.

My mongering advice: go to Thailand once a month.

HG weed should be between $8-12 a g. I'm smoking basic Bangkok at $3. There is delivery there too.

There are no BJs in Cambodia.

[ManMountain]

Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.

I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.

For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.

Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.

I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.

I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.

I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.

They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.

To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.

Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?

Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?

Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.

[Fantasys]

The original poster clearly indicated that the purpose of being in Cambodia for several weeks was for work with a lot of free time. The purpose NOT being there to "seek a GF". I have known and do know a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English; they are a lot of fun and have helped me from time to time negotiate everything from prices to travel plans. And they are not gold-diggers.

Sam Sanuk.

You do know what I am searching. It is boring, fucking a girl who come and leave after fucking. I just need more communicate.

Have to say that I am not a winner in seeking a GF in my own country. I like a girl submissive, and I like to have a sugar baby. Haha, but not a GF.

I like long term GFE, not a long term fuck. And it is nice to be with a girl who speak good english in phnom penh, yeah most time I stay weeks in Cambodia.

[Sam Sanuk]

Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.

The original poster clearly indicated that the purpose of being in Cambodia for several weeks was for work with a lot of free time. The purpose NOT being there to "seek a GF". I have known and do know a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English; they are a lot of fun and have helped me from time to time negotiate everything from prices to travel plans. And they are not gold-diggers.

Sam Sanuk.

[Sam Sanuk]

Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.

I think you came to your conclusion without considering the original poster would be in country for several weeks with a lot of free time. Indeed, he would not be visiting Cambodia to seek a GF here. As stated, his purpose would be for work, NOT for the purpose of seeking a GF. Aside from that, I have known (and currently know) quite a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English. They are a lot of fun and would be good companions--at least for a few weeks. LOL.

SS.

[Philosophus]

The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.

All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?

So true! Atta boy, Banana Boy. Also: don't make age a fetish. I consider myself picky, but a 25 yo stunner can be more memorable that 18 yo street meat. And Cambo has variety, just look for it.

[Fantasys]

First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.

If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.

Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.

Sam Sanuk.

Thanks, Bro. Have been Coffee shops, nothing happened, maybe wrong location.

[Nyezhov]

First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.

If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.

Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.

Sam Sanuk.

Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.

[Sam Sanuk]

Q: does anyone here has some ideas to find a regular local girls, long term, travel together, english spesking?

First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.

If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.

Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.

Sam Sanuk.

[Fantasys]

Does anyone know if Sun & Moon Urban still charge the $10 fee for joiners?

When are US dollars used and when is riel used? When I change money there should I just get US dollars??

Where is there a secure money changers near S & M?

How much to tip. Both girls and service staff / housekeeping.

Good English breakfast / English Pub food.

Appreciate.

4 FoW2.

P.S. Nyezhov. Have cut back to 5 days.

Sunday& moon, still the 10 usd, needed, and strict ID requirement policy.

Money exchange everywhere, 1 usd - 4050 are around, but day time. Recommend some riel in hand. Mostly 1000 riel, sometime when tuktuk, street food or shopping in tiny store, they will say no small changes trying to high price, even you give a 20 k bill.

Recommend Okay boutique Hotel. More friendly, khmer style decoration, but not enough place to parking cars. 4000 to tuktuk to bars riverside, Potoon. Breakfast there is ok. Nice sky bar and pool.

Most time I tip 500 or 1000 to service staff, as girls, it depends.

Tinder is a spp for booking 25-35 girls, most half or semi SW. And pics are always fake somewhat. Mostly 100 usd expected. I am a chinese guy in 50's.

Girl bar, 10-15 bar fine, 50-100. Some 18-19 girls not BJ. And most do not require condom if you do not ask to use.

Q: does anyone here has some ideas to find a regular local girls, long term, travel together, english spesking. ?

[Pyrrhus]

There hasn't been a lot of changes in the last 15 years except for the explosion of shopping malls. And and internet booking for local transportation via taxi or tuk tuk. Some of the old hangouts are gone but your weren't familiar with them in your pre-mongering days.

Main mongering venues are the hostess bars that have women / girls who are mostly 20-35 years old. Not a lot of 18-19, but you can find them. Bar fines are $10-$15; Overnight is always negotiable, but normal range is $50 and up. Most of the women shoot for $100. Unless you resemble Quasimoto, you can get acceptable for less.

Do not "assume" all hotels are guest friendly, though most are. Query the hotel directly via email. Some will allow outside guests, but charge a joiner fee.

Most massage joints are pretty lame compared to in Bangkok. Fishbowls, for instance, are relatively rare. The Street 63 massage joints full of Viets are a thing of the past.

SS.

Thanks for the thorough reply.

I didn't expect much to have changed. Hence my reluctance to accept the offer. As much as I like the idea of banging one girl after another for five weeks, I'd need something else to occupy my time. For the sake of my bank balance aswell as my sanity. I'm just not sure PP offers enough because I'm not much interested in shopping malls.

Having said that, I'm still undecided. If there were plenty of younger girls readily available, I wouldn't hesitate. Personally, I just don't have much interest in paying to be with anyone over 25 unless they are incredible looking. And even the 22-25 year olds would need to be fresh faced to get my interest. Ideally, I only want 18-21 year olds. I'll admid that I'm probably too picky for my own good. Do 18/19 year olds use Tinder much?

As far as massage parlours go, I've never really liked the fish bowl types anyway. And I don't usually go to massage parlours for FS. It's mostly just to lie back and be pampered for an hour without expending any energy. Obviously a happy ending is necessary. And I'll usually seek parlours that offer prostate massages.

And after making enquiries, I'm fairly sure I'd be staying in an airbnb near Tuol Tompoung Market. Would the bar girls be ok with that or do they only go to nearby hotels?