Phnom Penh

[WintersLight]

Actually I made a mistake in the hotel name I booked as I've been booking so many for my trip. I booked at the Point Boutique hotel in PP on 130. Anybody here stayed there?

I have not, but its rooftop bar, Juniper Gin Bar, is pretty nice and well-regarded. Has kind of a classy art-deco inspired bar and good views of the riverside and the city. You'll definitely be in the heart of the riverside bar action there, that's for sure; several bars within like fifty feet of you (Sweet Lady, Lucifer, Golden Frog, Beautiful Bar, etc etc) and even more around the corner. Maybe some of the veterans here can chime in with any suggestions for the bars. It may be kind of loud there, since the whole block doesn't start up until 6 pm and then goes until 3 am.

[Banana Boi]

Actually I made a mistake in the hotel name I booked as I've been booking so many for my trip. I booked at the Point Boutique hotel in PP on 130. Anybody here stayed there?

I don't know what your budget is and what your standards for cleanliness are but all I will say is you basically get what you pay for in PP hotels. If you can afford nicer stay somewhere nicer. It's like your buddy saying why don't we stay at Yorkville and you reply nah I'm cheaping out and staying beside Filmore's.

[Exoticspirit]

What's the hotel names?

Actually I made a mistake in the hotel name I booked as I've been booking so many for my trip. I booked at the Point Boutique hotel in PP on 130. Anybody here stayed there?

[ThatGuy101]

This is an interesting tip and kind of makes sense. I'll be ready to negotiate in both currencies if needed then. By the way I actually tried this similar strategy while in Panama recently where they use US $ as their main currency but most of the working girls were from Colombia. Since I had both US $ and Colombian currency on me from a stay in Colombia just a week prior, I asked the girls if they preferred US $ or Colombian pesos (assuming they want to bring pesos home with them). Interestingly all the Colombian girls in Panama said they preferred US $.

I learned this the hard way if they want usd they can get higher rates for the usd from local spots ( Conversion rates ) they know than you will ever get of course they want your USD! But you're paying higher! I went to DR 8 years straight (beside covid only one year break ahahah got the jab fuck it I want to fuck me some latinos now regret the jab but I was young stupid pussy on my mind) but yea 2022 planned 3 trips there 30 days each a lot of them regulars and got to know me by the second trip opened up (no I never buy the bullshit ohh send me money when you're home) fuck no you can provide a service for the money I ain't giving you shit I got my own problems back home ahahah (not that rude but they get the point) never ever had a chick message me for money because they know I know the same and whenever I land they see my WhatsApp stories hey your back? Let's meet! While some simp might be send cash ahaha sucks brooo you got. GOT. Man I am just sharing my own experience from my own experience and what I had to learn the hard way I love this website it started my journey hell I lost my virginity because of this site wild night wild story never ever forgot it always grateful but let's say you talk usd to a street vendor or or the beach guy you think you going to get a fair price? LOL cmon use the same common sense youd use for them for the girls yea they are good at their jobs but it's our job to be one step ahead of them. I have paid usd ( I never tell them this ) but I always always negotiate in their currency than I say ohh okay thats X amount of usd correct they say yes than before I do the deed thats the price that ( peso etc price =( that to usd right ? they yes thats right pay them that in usd or pesos ( never say negotiate usd before than ur good.. but if your charge in usd youre seen as a first timer and will be taken for a ride ( higher prices ) good luck ! Safe monger hopefully my last 2 drunk reports helps someone much love from Canada boys!!
I do wanna add to to it in Colombia DR nickels dimes matter not to us but your in third world country they will take back to a spot they know to get few extra dollars it’s 3rd world of course the want usd when their currencies are worth shit

[Exoticspirit]

It is a lot easier to pay girls, bars and hotels with dollars, as they amount of riels corresponding will be quite high. Riels are good to pay drinks, tuktuks and tips.

Thanks, this makes sense for bigger cost items like hotels and girls for US $ payments. For the tuk tuks, do we know if ride fares are cheaper through Grab / Pass or if the cash quotes from drivers are better? Also should I convert all my remaining Cambodian riels while still in Cambodia before boarding my outbound flight? I'm flying out to Thailand next after Cambodia and wondering if the money changers in Thailand will take riels?

[Exoticspirit]

Talk currency in the country your in.

This is an interesting tip and kind of makes sense. I'll be ready to negotiate in both currencies if needed then. By the way I actually tried this similar strategy while in Panama recently where they use US $ as their main currency but most of the working girls were from Colombia. Since I had both US $ and Colombian currency on me from a stay in Colombia just a week prior, I asked the girls if they preferred US $ or Colombian pesos (assuming they want to bring pesos home with them). Interestingly all the Colombian girls in Panama said they preferred US $.

[ThatGuy101]

I'll be coming as a first timer later this year and just booked at the Center Point hotel on 136 - hope it's a decent hotel that's girl friendly since I found it via a girl friendly hotel info website. I see that this country uses both their own currency as well as US $ and that most rates quoted are usually in US $. Is there a reason for this? Can the girls and bars quote in their own currency?

What's the hotel names? I'm thinking of coming her instead of Philippines. The tread saying it's dead and Manila chicks want 200+LOL but bro tip I learned early on is never ever talk in USD. Your in their country learn the conversion rates, or at google it for a rough estimate. If you talk usd price they'll know your a first timer and get quoted way higher I learned that in the DR threads if they quote you high than laugh it off and say ohh it's not my first time here ( she will know right away you know the game even if u dont dont mess it up for everyone else ) some new timers paying 5500 peso ( DR) that's 100 usd ( shell say oh 5500 peso is only 100 usd.. id respond.. no I'm Canadian that's 135 $ Canadian thats to high im okay.. what I'll pay is 15-2500 pesos which is 45-70 CAD ( normal rate they will try their luck to get u for higher if ur a first timer or weekend warrior ) just say it's not my first time I don't talk usd we're in Dominican ( this case Cambodia ) I talk pesos ( or whatever country our in) and they say oh okay yes I'll take it with little negation from ur price which was already cut in half but if ur talking usd ahaha good luck to you!! ( already know this guy never been here hes new to the game hes talking usd easy money ) when i high my price in pesos after they try the usd game on me and I say nah not my first time here im good. They respond okay 50-60 ( 2000 pesos ish )where's your hotel?? Never ever talk usd in a country that's main currency is something else not my fault last sucker paid in usd. Talk currency in the country your in. If you get a high price laugh it off sip your beer LOL look at other girls and watch her tone change and watch her be on you ( she doesnt love you she loves ur wallet simple ) that little trick I use shows her u tried to rip me off I didnt fall for it ill go for a different girl these girls can read body language easily ( well it is there job to be fair but dont be cheap but dont over pay and mess up the spot for the regulars ) Play it cool don't look desperate you got the cash you got the options you don't need to fight for her if you miss oh well there's 100 others just look around after you enjoy your beer ahaha.
Thats why I stopped with DR going to Asia same chick u could have for 50-60 now wants 100+! All these new guys coming in paying the ugly chicks more now the cute girls want double I love sharing info with new guys and have when people dont than complain prices got raised ahaha wonder why? Met people on my stay from 20-50 year old talking usd paying double the rates I told them cut that shit out and only talk pesos they were skeptic but they tried it which they thought was low but they normal prices we were all paying they were so happy with next few days we all shared beers throughout the days each of them thanked me for the info which I had no problem with it helps us all in the long run

[Mari1256]

It is a lot easier to pay girls, bars and hotels with dollars, as they amount of riels corresponding will be quite high. Riels are good to pay drinks, tuktuks and tips.

[Exoticspirit]

I'll be coming as a first timer later this year and just booked at the Center Point hotel on 136 - hope it's a decent hotel that's girl friendly since I found it via a girl friendly hotel info website. I see that this country uses both their own currency as well as US $ and that most rates quoted are usually in US $. Is there a reason for this? Can the girls and bars quote in their own currency?

[Philosophus]

Nice report. Well observed. Well written.

[WintersLight]

Poor Phnom Penh can't get much love in these forums, it seems. Last post was more than a month ago. I recently returned from a week in the city, my second long-term visit in 2024. (You can find my earlier report in January). While I spent five of the seven nights with my regular, a bargirl I had met in January and kept in touch with through WhatsApp, I did have time for a couple of other experiences. Here are some notes from the ground.

Regular bar streets of 136/130 still give the illusion of being busy, with lots of girls out front all shouting for your attention, little kids running around, vendors selling whatever, etc, but walk around a couple of times and you'll notice there aren't that many other customers on the street. Maybe they're all inside the bars already, but it does seems like a quiet time period, even for the low season. News reports indicate that the city has plans to upgrade the 136 area and turn it into a more high-class pedestrian area, with plans for higher-class shops and businesses, so it makes you wonder how long it will stay around?

136 and even 130 are still too busy for me, and while many of the girls do look young (in the 18--21 range that is, not underaged young), most didn't appeal that much to me. Instead I checked out the bars on 110,118, and even 104, which are a bit quieter. (Strangely the freelancers standing outside Oscar's On the Corner on 104 looked really good this time, but they may have also been staff for the new bar right underneath it, called Tinder.) A young woman sitting outside of Double the Bar on Street 110 finally caught my eye, for her somewhat decently sized breasts that were well displayed by her outfit. (They weren't double the's, that's for sure, and whatever they were disappeared in half once she took off her push-up bra, LOL). There were about five women out front, one of whom may have been a railthin LB, but I went into the bar with my new friend and sat down at a booth to have a drink. You can drink at the bar there, but they do have more private booths, and a pool table in the back. My new friend didn't speak much English, but we muddled through with Google Translate. I could tell she was shy, so I didn't press things much at first, but I soon put my arm around her, caressed her neck, and later put my other hand along her bare leg. After a bit we were kissing, and then after that I asked her if she was interested in going out with me. I think it's important to first see what the girl is like before asking this, and spend some time warming her up or chatting her up, as the answer may be different if you ask the question immediately after meeting her. But you don't have to buy her 3-4 drinks before doing this; sometimes it only takes one drink, but sometimes it might take two. I only buy two if I know the first drink has gone well. She shyly said, 'for you, $80. ' I laughed and said, 'Well I am flattered, but usually it is $45?" (I knew we'd meet in the middle, but wanted to start low, but not low enough that she'd be insulted). So she countered with, 'well, up to you,' and we agreed on $55 for two hours. I made sure to clarify that DFK and a few other things were on the menu for no surprise charges, she agreed.

We headed back to the hotel and things went well, lots of joking in the shower and some lengthy foreplay / kissing / DATY, though by the time FS started I probably took longer than she expected / wanted / was used to, as after about 10 mins of penetration she looked like she was in discomfort. I volunteered more lube but quickly finished, as she was saying she was "sick. " (Always good for your ego, to have a girl say how sick she suddenly is, haha). She may have meant her period had started, as there was a bit of blood on the sheets. Things then got rushed, as she wanted to leave, and I wasn't in the mood to keep her around. (Remember its in your best interest to delay coming if you want a longer session, as it's a steep slope from orgasm to shower to out the door.) I assumed she wanted to leave to get back to work, but maybe her period had started, or maybe she was ill, who knows, but it felt rushed. (It was about a 90 min session, though). Overall the girl was cute, she was only 22 so maybe inexperienced (it was her first month there, she said, but it's always every bargirls first month there, isn't it? But I wouldn't repeat, or even recommend Double the. There seemed to be no mamasan there (which to me seems important as it's a figurehead to guarantee some level of service), it felt more like an assortment of freelancers there than a working crew of ladies, and most of the other girls didn't seem that attractive. Oddly, two days later I was walking by, and she gave me the biggest smile and wave I've ever seen. Said she had been thinking of me, but I wasn't falling for it.

Another night I walked into the reincarnated Cyrcee's Secret Bar, way off the main drag towards the Central Market. Zero foot traffic there. I had actually stopped by to check out the bar around the corner, Sona Horny Secret Bar, as I had a good experience there in January, but this time it was pretty quiet. The mamasan did remember me though and we talked for a bit, and she even brought out one of the girls I had taken out last time (the less attractive one, alas). Walking by Cyrcee's, though, it started pouring rain, and I paused to fist-bump and joke with a little Blasian kid out front, and then talk with who I thought was his mom or the mamasan, but who turned out to be a bargirl. As the rain wasn't stopping, I went inside to have a drink with her. She was mid-30's (I know, I know), and with two VERY young looking, very cute girls of 18, one of whom was the bartender / cashier. I figured they were just for display and turns out I was right, as mid-30's lady gave me a full rundown on the system of most bars in the city. Turns out that most bars offer up some "originals," 18-year-old eye-candy virgins, to draw the punters in and get their hopes up. The virgins continue to just look at their phones while the guys buy them drinks, offer their virginal states up for an outrageous price, and then when they still turn the customers down, the older ladies in the room sweep in to snare the men. She had previously worked at Ostro on 136, and noted that most of the 136 bars operated on that principle.

Anyway, she was fun to talk with and spoke excellent English, and in the soft light of the bar started looking pretty nice, especially as it was my last night in PP. (My regular had gone down to Kampot for a friend's birthday). Same courtship idea: one drink, some light caressing and heavy flattery, and then the question. She offered $60, I countered with $40, and she agreed to that, though I did say that I'd tip well if she was nice to me. As it was her first month at the bar (LOL, again? What a coincidence! And I didn't want to go to my hotel (too far), she had to ask the bartender / cashier where the shorttime hotel was. It turned out to be on the same street as the one I had gone to in January with the SoNa Horny girls, so I just took her there myself. We had a very nice three hours there, for $40, plus $8 hotel, $10 drinks, and $10 barfine.

With my regular girl, she'd either come over to meet me at my hotel around midnight and stay until 5 am (when she would turn into a pumpkin, or have to get home to facetime her mom, or help her little brother wake up for school, or some other excuse), or she'd come over even earlier and we'd have dinner together somewhere nice, or, twice, I even went over to her bar to pick her up. This was mainly for me to pay respects to her mama-san, buy some drinks for them, and be polite, so that the mama-san wouldn't mind that I was taking her best money-making girl out of the bar early every night. Cambodians, even bargirls, seem to really be into the collective and into treating coworkers like family, so if you make an effort to understand that, and buy a couple of $5 drinks for your lady's friends and bosses, it will pay off for you very well in the long run. Costs for her were $50 for a 4-6 hour session, and sometimes a $15 barfine, and once or twice some drinks of about $12-$20. (Out of five evenings with her, I paid the barfine just twice). Having a regular was very nice, BTW, a guarantee that you'd have a good solid connection with someone, an evening that would always work out well, etc.

All told, Phnom Penh is a rewarding spot if you have the patience to play the bargirl game: don't storm in there hoping to pull a girl out immediately, but expect to spend a bit of time sitting with them, be patient and polite, and especially polite to the mamasan, and you'll be fine. But if you're on drink #3 or 4, though, and haven't gotten any clearer with what's going to happen afterwards, then pull out. They'll be another girl, another bar, that will work. PP is also an evening game, as most bars only open at 4 pm or 6 pm, so it's not really an all-day kind of scene like Bangkok. Plastic surgery and tattoos aren't QUITE as prevalent, so if you like more natural girls it's an especially nice place. Cambodian attitudes (in general) remind me more of Filipinos than Vietnamese or Chinese or even Thai, that's for sure; super friendly and laid back, with a very easy-going vibe all round. Along the riverside you'll encounter the usual hustle culture, especially from the tuktuk drivers, but a 'no thank you (At te, orkun", Bong," usually chills them out.

Finally, I stayed mostly at the Tao Riverside, great rooms overlooking the river and a good location a couple of blocks from 136. But a bit awkward as it's a narrow entrance and you have to walk right by the front desk to get to the elevators, so staff will definitely see and meet everyone you're bringing in. Also, they seem to lock the door around 2 am, so you have to buzz the intercom and wake up the (always) sleeping guard to let you and your date in. He's usually less than enthused about being woken up, and may be a bit grumpy while checking your girl's ID. (They will just take a photo of it). This also means that if the girl is leaving from 2 am-6 am, they will then have to wake the guard up so he can let them out.

[Nyezhov]

Could you please recommend someone in Bangkok for HG weed. Thank you.

I assume you mean down by the fun area, try the Dutch seed place near Thermae. If you're going to leave The Tourist district, you can go to happy cannabis in bang pho or Fat Buds in Ekkamai. If the Nepalese kid on the corner of soy Arab is back in operation, which depends on the cops, he has super quality weed, tell him that you were referred by the old American guy that lives in Cambodia.

[Duolingy]

My mongering advice: go to Thailand once a month.

HG weed should be between $8-12 a g. I'm smoking basic Bangkok at $3. There is delivery there too.

There are no BJs in Cambodia.

Could you please recommend someone in Bangkok for HG weed. Thank you.

[Fantasys]

Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.

I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.

For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.

Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.

I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.

I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.

I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.

They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.

To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.

Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?

Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?

Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.

Sure, Thailand is better, thai girls are more understanding, not only boom boom and go. And easy to find one who speak english.

[Nyezhov]

Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.

I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.

For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.

Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.

I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.

I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.

I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.

They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.

To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.

Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?

Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?

Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.

My mongering advice: go to Thailand once a month.

HG weed should be between $8-12 a g. I'm smoking basic Bangkok at $3. There is delivery there too.

There are no BJs in Cambodia.