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04-29-24 12:44 #14411
Posts: 1158Fuck SCOTUS...in Hush Money Alvin Bragg we TRUST!!!
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I'm half expecting, them to just come out and say, "FUCK IT!...WE GOT NOTHING, that says a president has immunity, but Trump a get out jail free card anyways!"
But speaking of celebrity endorsements and flip-flops, Bill Maher seem to think Trump will lose the Hush-Money case and it might be a slam-dunk after all.
Originally Posted by RAW Story
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04-29-24 11:15 #14410
Posts: 1158Howard Stern is supporting/voting for BIDEN and says "Thanks Joe"...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
And hey, look mom, no celebrity flip-flopping, grandstanding, word salad or clever backpedaling, surrounding an ambiguous interview, with 'misconstrued words' I said, w/r to my unwavering support for President Joe Biden.
Biden Revisits His Past in Interview With Howard Stern
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/26/u...ern-trump.html
In an interview with President Joe Biden, Howard says while he votes Republican most times, he will not vote for an idiot (in Trump), that wants to destroy DEMOCRACY.
With at peak viewership in late 2019 at around 35 million, that's a big boost for Biden, among white males. Howard Stern audience are upscale professionals. 74% of his audience are between 25-54 years of age with an average household income of $160k. 73% Male and 27% female. 34% college graduates, 85% white.
Howard Stern Thanks President Joe Biden for Making a Difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxL1_K-bq2I
35 million listeners/viewers, with a clear unambiguous vote for BIDEN! Now that's some political sway.
Thanks Joe! Thanks Howard!
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04-29-24 10:12 #14409
Posts: 1158Will those Repubs on Earth 2, ever come back to Reality?
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Providing factual and historical information, in addition to said polls, simply gives the readers the complete picture, which SAS failed to do. But should have know better, when making dumbass comparisons with the persecuted lived "black experience" and a pampered, spoiled-ass, gold-plated-toilet-seat, pussy-grabber, porn-star fucking, hush-money orange ex-president.
Black voters continue to overwhelmingly associate with the Democratic Party, ...
http://Pew Research Center: https://...and-education/
That fact that SAS himself, nor any of the articles mention, that black voters have historical voted with an avg. of 82-86%, is misleading, disingenuous and is not portraying the full story of how Black voters REALLY vote. The article(s) I presented, simply full-in-the-blanks and give readers the other half (the REAL half) of the Black voting behavioral patterns/history.
Don't forget SAS himself says he votes for Dems 95% of the time.
Yes, polls and polling have their uses and are nice to have, in order to gauge what "might" happen, but historical FACTS and FIGURES, will 100% always trump the inaccurate, inexact and often unreliable use of polls.
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Biden Wins: 2020 Presidential Election Results
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/07/92880...turbulent-race
Joe Biden Wins US Presidential Election, Results and Electoral Map 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/polit...ion/index.html
Electoral college confirms Joe Biden's presidential victory - BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55308526
FUN FACT: Even though, Republican's very own investigations (spanning over a decade and examining over a billion votes) have turned up NOTHING, in the way of wide spread systemic voter fraud, they still yet push this bogus narrative of election fraud. Why you ask?
Well it really very simply. Republican's know, their base is stinking and hell is likely to freeze over, before they win at the ballot-box, or with populous vote, ever again. Therefore the only option is for Repubs to CHEAT, CHEAT and CHEAT some more. Oh, and while we're at it, be sure to also accuse our opponents of doing the same. You know, do a lot of projecting and thereby muddy the waters, as to who is really doing the cheating.
Why do Repubs, now choose CHEATING to win? Because CHEATING (and LYING) is the only game Repubs know they're good at and it's the ONLY WAY they now know, to beat the Dems.
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
But, since I'm well aware YOU, Elvis 2008, seem to have one foot, firmly planted in the of world of conspiracies and the other foot in the world of lies at FOXY Muse, one can only surmise, you seem very antithetical and even allergic to the truth?
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04-27-24 17:16 #14408
Posts: 3384Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
From the hearing:
In one of the many hypotheticals the liberals tossed at Trump's attorney, Kagan asked what would happen if a president ordered the military to stage a coup. Could that be prosecuted under Trump's theory?
"If there's no threat of criminal prosecution, what prevents the president from just doing whatever he wants?" Jackson said. "I'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the Oval Office into the seat of criminal activity in this country. "
These are two great questions from liberal Democratic judges. SCOTUS is doing its job untangle the politics from the idiotic DC ruling. I am complimenting Dems here.
Alito went as far as to suggest that denying ex-presidents immunity would discourage peaceful transfers of power, because outgoing presidents who lost hotly contested elections would not want to depart peacefully if they were concerned they'd be prosecuted by their political rival.
To those of us with a brain, this is a valid concern and yet to douches like you Spidy who only care about your SS check, it is blasphemy. Alito is Fox news watching, biased pond scum when he is asking a good question and doing his fucking job.
An attorney offers this assessment of the questioning.
I listened to the entire argument. The Court will reject Trump's absolute immunity argument. Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett crapped all over that idea.
But the Justices don't like the DC Circuit approach. There is a principle of limited immunity for official acts obviously, never applied in the Presidential context but applied to protect officials from criminal suits involving allegations of violations of citizens' constitutional rights. Kavanaugh and Roberts supporting him, seem inclined to apply that principle here. (Barrett seemed like she was torn as to whether to do that or join the liberals.). That will require a preliminary fact-based hearing to determine which acts were "official" and deserve limited immunity and which acts are private and get no immunity. I feel pretty confident that's what will happen here. Barrett would be the sixth vote. Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas might go for absolute immunity, but that doesn't matter, as the deciding votes determine the remedy.
So, that's what's going to happen. This means no trial before the election. But Judge Tanya Churkin, who controls her own calendar, will follow the SC's mandate and conduct a fact-based preliminary hearing to determine which acts were official and which were private.
Trump did not get everything he wanted, but he did get the most that could be realistically expected.
The fact finding mission and subsequent delays men there will be no more trials before the election.
So yeah, the Democratic members of SCOTUS will vote against Trump, there is no reason for them not to, but they know presidents need some degree of immunity. Quite frankly, seeing how this was always about preventing Trump from being elected, there will probably be no new lawsuits.
And the whole Democratic lawfare strategy has blown up in the face of Democrats. In reality, not only is SCOTUS not corrupt, they seem to be the only court room that is not ridiculously partisan. Like I have said before, we do not have a DOJ. We have a DDOJ, a Democratic Department of Justice.
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04-27-24 16:58 #14407
Posts: 3384Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
As for why the restrictions, you know damned well why. Because that is where the cheating is!
Google has done a pretty good job of wiping out what happened in 2020 as has duckduckgo, but it is still there if you look hard enough. https://rumble.com/vbvwfd-ep.-32-ele...am-nov.-4.html.
You can go the 17 minute mark on this video and see for yourself. It is amazing how black voters were more excited to vote for Biden than Obama but only in swing states. Boy the blacks turned out in droves in Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, and Nevada, but for some reason, they had below average turnout in other places. Gee, I wonder why.
And then there were 100,000 ballots miraculously where the only person voted for was Joe Biden. That only happened in contested states but in uncontested states, and Biden won by 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin, which separated him from Trump in the Electoral College.
Democrats got away with this crap in 2020 but it is going to be MUCH harder in 2024 to cheat. That is why you have to do this lawfare bullshit.
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04-26-24 21:02 #14406
Posts: 5585There are at least 5 fully QAnon MAGAs on the SCOTUS
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Alas, it appears they will instead comply with Trump's desperate need to delay delay delay all of his criminal trials by kicking that decision down the road for someone else to make.
But, absolutely, the line of questioning by those 6 genius Repub-appointed Justices strongly suggests they have totally bought the loony Trump / QAnon MAGA premise that Trump gathering and inciting a violent cop-killing mob of insurrectionists to storm the Capitol, search out his VP to publicly hang him, shoot or kidnap the Speaker of the House, overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy while Trump sat on his fat ass for 3 hours doing nothing except enjoying the show and praising them for their loyalty to him was not the historically dangerous and unique event to be fretting over.
Oh no.
Of course, according to their loony America-hating QAnon MAGA way of thinking, it is the wheels of justice daring to turn toward Trump for perpetrating that outrageously traitorous crime against America that is the really annoying thing about all of this. LOL.
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04-26-24 18:56 #14405
Posts: 1158Why do Repubs, fear the Black VOTE?
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
But please explain this!
- So AGAIN, Elvis 2008, if Trump really does have the "raising" Black vote, then explain to me, why is it that Trump and Repubs, spend an enormous amount of effort, time and money, in a myriad of attempts around the country, to service mass purges of Blacks from of voter rolls, or suppressing the black votes on voter lists, or disproportionately removing drop-boxes and ballot-boxes, primarily in black neighborhoods, in swing states?
And why call out ONLY black and brown neighborhoods and people for voter fraud and election fraud, in said swing states?
So why do Repubs, fear the BLACK VOTE?
- So AGAIN, Elvis 2008, if Trump really does have the "raising" Black vote, then explain to me, why is it that Trump and Repubs, spend an enormous amount of effort, time and money, in a myriad of attempts around the country, to service mass purges of Blacks from of voter rolls, or suppressing the black votes on voter lists, or disproportionately removing drop-boxes and ballot-boxes, primarily in black neighborhoods, in swing states?
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04-26-24 18:31 #14404
Posts: 1158Anyone watching what's going on with SCOTUS?
SCOTUS - It would painfully seem, that our (well some Repubs and most Dems anyways) worst concerns w/r to SCOTUS is being realized.
As some have long speculated, the current incarnation of SCOTUS, is nothing more than just another conservative, right-wing political arm of the Republican Party. At this point they are no better than the party's propaganda machine over at FOXY Muse.
It is clear now, judging by the last several cases, briefs and oral arguments, brought before SCOTUS, that their blatant and obvious biases, rulings and lines of questioning, tilt towards the belief that, their conservative party policy goals, are being placed before everything, including...DEMOCRACY. And a "blind", fair and impartial interpretation of the law, is nothing more than lip service.
If justice is blind, then this version of SCOTUS, is obviously "cheating" and seeing only out of ONE EYE, the one on the "right".
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04-26-24 18:07 #14403
Posts: 5585Good article. You should send that link to SAS
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
That is the article that reminds us of Trump's history of anti Black discrimination lawsuits, his still unwavering insistence that 5 Black men who were fully exonerated of the crime he exploited for his own celebrity and White Nationalist credentials be publicly executed or rot in prison the rest of their lives and, oh yeah, the Birther Scam he perpetuated for that same celebrity, White Nationalist credentials and Republican Party credentials purpose, claiming / lying that he had hired some investigators to research Obama's birth certificate records in Hawaii and were "finding some very interesting things. ".
Now, I happen to know all about that critically important history of Donald Trump's lifelong quest for celebrity and White Nationalist credentials by stepping on Black Americans whenever and wherever he could.
But it is obvious that Stephen A. Smith does not "know enough" about Trump to make up his mind who he will endorse and vote for this year. As does so many young Black men in America today.
And now that YOU know all about it, having heard and read about it from me and Clarence Page in the link you posted here but most definitely never heard it from SAS or anyone he is likely to find himself chatting with on Fux News, it really should be your mission in life to get that info to SAS, Fux News and as many young Black men as you come in contact with on a daily basis.
I mean, since you obviously care so much about the truth, the plight of Black Americans and all that.
I would do it myself. But rumor has it that neither mail nor email nor cyberspace in general can make a connection between Black men or anyone else in the USA and Bangkok Thailand and that only people who live right next door to each other can share and know these things.
Despite the fact that I know and knew these things yet SAS, Fux News, you and a whole bunch of young Black men in America didn't. Amazing, huh.
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04-26-24 16:18 #14402
Posts: 3384Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
And you did not listen to a fucking word of what he said. This is what he referenced:
Chicago Tribune with the headline: This time Trump seems to be making black voter inroads. Why?
https://www.pressherald.com/2024/03/...voter-inroads/
The Washington Post: Voters of color are shifting right. Are Democrats doomed?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...on-republican/
As black voters shift to Trump, Biden's allies say he has work to do.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/u...emocrats.html.
Big Biden bummer: and. Why. Times / Siena poll shows gaps with key Democratic groups.
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/02/bid...siena-poll-nyt
The Hill Biden losing support among black voters.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...states-survey/
Biden loses support among black men.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/electio...-poll-a7d9da22
So wait, this was not about Fox News, SAS, or even me. It was about a black man who saw those stories and asked around to verify what was going on and found out that the polls were right, and he relayed to the world all that he heard.
And what do you call two douches like yourself Spidy and Tooms who tune out what a black person says, call him a knucklehead, a Foxy want to be, just prominent in the sports world, and yet lecture everyone on the "black experience"? Oh, yeah, you two douches know all about racism because you old farts were the ones practicing it.
In fact one of the memes on Twitter was a black man holding a whip that was labeled NAACP and the black man being whipped was labeled blacks who vote Republican. Or Biden saying, if you do not vote for me, you are not black. Hmmm.
To recount what SAS Smith said: "As much as people may have been abhorred by Donald Trump's statement weeks ago, talking about how he's hearing that Black folks find him relatable because of what he is going through is similar to what Black Americans have gone through, he wasn't lying; he was telling the truth. ".
And this is the response of the Democratic former Sportscenter host and demagogue Keith Olbermann, "So why is today's ESPN letting Smith do it? Why is he campaigning for Trump on Fox News? ESPN must make him choose between advocating for a despot or keeping his job saying nothing particularly relevant about sports-not both. And I'd insist on the same either / or if he were campaigning for Biden. ".
If SAS were campaigning for Biden, a douche like Olbermann wouldn't say shit and everyone knows it.
This is not being a Fox dupe. You and Tooms displayed classic Democratic douche motives as does Olbermann who goes out and fucking lies about SAS supporting Trump. Yeah, this is douchery at its finest: Lie and attack anyone who does not toe the Democratic party line even if that line is false and censor and fire anyone who does not toe the line.
The real crime SAS committed is he told you something that you did not want to hear AKA the truth. Oh yeah, I forgot. All the polls are wrong because you douches say they are.
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04-26-24 15:12 #14401
Posts: 2230USGOV hostile to crypto
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024...tablecoin-law/
It is bad law. Stifles innovation, liquidity and movement of capital in the markets.
Elements in the USGOV are afraid. Because crypto is not reliant on any of the favorite idiots everyone like to talk about on both side of aisle up in here.
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04-26-24 02:26 #14400
Posts: 1158Republicans love their affable Celebrities...
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
And while both of these gentlemen, have done a lot of good for their respective communities (HBCs, charities, underprivileged kids programs...etc), their numbskull/knuckle headed comments, while clumsy and careless, shouldn't be given too much credence (as IMHO it's not warranted). These insignificant celebrity flare-ups, carry very little weight in the political arena and at the ballot-box when it actually comes time to vote.
Repubs, can have all knuckle headed celebrity gaffes, if they feel it will translate to votes. President Joe Biden, thank god, is focused on the votes of hardworking American Laborers and NABTU workers that know, "He [TRUMP] was one of the worst clients we ever had, because he rarely kept his word and it was a fight to get him to pay us back". --NABTU President Sean McGarvey
In the case of SAS, as you've stated, he should know better. But FOXY Muse, have also had a lifetime of twisting almost everything in their sights, to suit their right-wing agenda/narrative. That is literally their fucking shtick!
Point and case, as just the other day, a new version of the game SCRAMBLE was released and reported as being "easier" and "more inclusive" (not sure who initially came up with those terms to describe the game), but leave it to the pundits over at FOXY Muse to label is as "WOKE!" and "WOKE SCRAMBLE!".
But when you consider that the Republican party, is nothing more than, performance theater, clowns performing for their supper and a spectacle comedy of errors, meant to entertain rather than govern responsibly by the rule of law and the US Constitution, it should come as no surprise, that Repubs would rather focus on the nonsense and crap, coming from the mouths of "clowns", "numbskulls" and "knuckle heads", for the mere entertainment of their gullible audiences, as opposed to doing any real official legislative work.
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04-25-24 20:50 #14399
Posts: 1158SAS backpedals, but sparks new criticism...
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Next you're gonna tell me Kanye West, has enormous political influence, in the black community (....kkkk!)
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
The backlash, was definitely more about SAS's "numbskull comments", equating persecuted Black historical figures by LE, with that of a rich white (quasi) billionaire paying hush-money to a porn-star, that was in violation of campaign finance laws, covered-up and made into illegal business payments, is akin to the persecuted black experience?
SAS trying to backpedal:
Shameful and Pathetic: Stephen A. Smiths Apology Over Problematic Trump Comments Sparks New Criticism for Insulting Black Peoples Intelligence
https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/04...-misconstrued/
Originally Posted by Atlanta Black Star
The fact that he was equating Trump's legal problems, with those of historical Black people, who have truly been persecuted, jailed and victimized by LE and the US Criminal Justice system, was just indefensible.
The backlash, was no doubt warranted, not because they necessarily have political sway, but because their "celebrity" affords them a certain standing in the community and when you make stupid comments or do stupid things, you should expect condemnation.
Funny I don't remember any such outcry, when Rep. Tony Gonzalez (R-TX), scathing report of Republican Neo-Nazi SCUMBAGS, came to be known as huge problem. Repubs just seem to accept this as fact?
Hmmm...I wonder what's worse, poor criminal treatment of blacks by LE comparisons with Trump or Repubs who don't seem to mind the Neo-Nazi SCUMBAGS problem they have?
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04-25-24 12:01 #14398
Posts: 3384Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
The interesting thing to me were the Twitter comments. Yeah, there were 3:1 against SAS and for the NAACP. To me, that shows a splintering. I have never seen black folks criticize the NAACP like I did in those comments. So you believe what you want. We will see what happens with the vote.
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04-25-24 11:17 #14397
Posts: 1158Black Voters vote for Dems, on an avg. of 82%, historically 100% of the time!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Elvis 2008, your failure to understand that SAS holds very little political sway in the black community, is dumbfoundingly odd, at best very amusing, at worse just unbelievably desperate and grasping at straws, as you're now drowning for relevance, on a topic you thought was a slum dunk ages ago.
It's not like your beleaguered Repubs are going to gain any significant amount black voters, to make a difference, not matter how much you "huff-n-puff", like a big bad weeeeeeeed wolf. (...kkkk!)
Really now...is this just your way of balancing out "the cosmos", with the lost of votes due to the Republican Neo-Nazi SCUM-BAG problem, with the magical "raise" of black voters for Repubs, in the "polls" you sight?
Anywho, here again, are the recent black voting numbers you need to know for, Nov 2024, despite the sources quoted by SAS, and the pundit polls and predictions, he sources. 100% more accurate to be precise:
Pew Research Center, Partisanship by race, ethnicity and education, April 9th, 2024- Black voters continue to overwhelmingly associate with the Democratic Party, although the extent of the Democratic advantage among this group has fallen off over the last few years.
- Currently, 83% of Black voters are Democrats or lean Democratic, while 12% align with the GOP.
- As recently as 2020, the share associating with the Democratic Party was 5 percentage points higher. That somewhat larger edge in party affiliation had been in place for much of the last two decades.
Once you've taken in those historic numbers on black voters, perhaps you'll be inclined to go back and answer my questions w/r to "Why Repubs, are always suppressing the black vote, if black voters are so very important to them?"
- Black voters continue to overwhelmingly associate with the Democratic Party, although the extent of the Democratic advantage among this group has fallen off over the last few years.