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  1. #14436

    As bad as Trump's 2017 - 2020 economic policy results were

    It looks like Trump's potential second term economic policy plans are reaching for the Triple or Quadruple Crown of dreaded results as cited over and over again by Wingers here and elsewhere:

    Roubini: Trump policies risk higher inflation, slower growth and lower stock and bond prices.

    https://www.morningstar.com/news/mar...nd-bond-prices

    How Trumps tariff plans could kill jobs and worsen inflation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/econo...ion/index.html

    Trumps Plans for the Fed Would Revive 1970s-Style Inflation.

    https://www.project-syndicate.org/co...stfeld-2024-05

    Trump's inflation bomb: How his second-term plans could make it worse.

    https://www.axios.com/2024/05/08/tru...nomy-inflation

    Bear in mind, as has been the irrefutable pattern for at least the past 100 years, whoever takes over from an outgoing Dem Administration will have nothing serious to "recover" the economy from anyway. Which is the exact opposite of what always faces whoever takes over from an outgoing Repub administration. As was never more dramatically obvious than when the Biden administration took over from the Trump administration.

  2. #14435

    Biden's Sponsored Inflation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    When Biden brought up the term Bidenomics, his poll numbers crashed so badly that he quit using the term. So I don't know who you are trying to convince of anything.

    And this is more classic Tooms. The more you are losing on an issue, the more definitive you get on it. I just caught this today. https://mishtalk.com/economics/where...yields-headed/.

    So has the Biden administration with sponsored inflation in everything he does (excessive fiscal stimulus, poor energy policy, regulatory madness, student loan cancellations, Inflation Reduction Act, tariffs, etc. , all highly inflationary).

    If people vote the economy, Biden loses. Period. The only issue he wins on is abortion, and I do not think that is going to work unlike in 2022.

    The only other issue Biden was ahead on was "preserving Democracy" which is a talking point Democrats are making over and over again. So there is just this association with them. If the Republicans publicized how Biden was involved with trying to put Trump in jail and is denying secret service protection to RFK Jr. , those numbers would tumble, but it is such a fake issue I do not think Republicans are taking it seriously.
    Did every other country on the planet experiencing post-Trump's Pandemic Inflation also pass historic economic stimulus recovery legislation? Please explain.

    The only common denominator all around the world for the economic Disasters of 2020/2021, the massive job losses, business closures, supply-chain collapse and the Inflation that followed was Trump's Pandemic.

    You know who loves Bidenomics the most? The Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub Liars who rush to the ribbon cuttings, grand openings and job creating centers to take undeserved, unearned credit for successful economy-improving projects funded by legislation they didn't propose, design, fight or vote for!

  3. #14434
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]

    Imagine how much better and stronger Biden's terrific economy would be today if he had inherited the stable and superior economic conditions the Obama-Biden Administration handed Trump instead of the colossal shit-storm of a typical Repub economic disaster Biden inherited from Trump. LOL.
    When Biden brought up the term Bidenomics, his poll numbers crashed so badly that he quit using the term. So I don't know who you are trying to convince of anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    election etc and, no question or doubt about it, things are great today compared with what Trump created 4 years ago, 5 years ago, 6 years ago and 7 years ago.
    And this is more classic Tooms. The more you are losing on an issue, the more definitive you get on it. I just caught this today. https://mishtalk.com/economics/where...yields-headed/.

    So has the Biden administration with sponsored inflation in everything he does (excessive fiscal stimulus, poor energy policy, regulatory madness, student loan cancellations, Inflation Reduction Act, tariffs, etc. , all highly inflationary).

    If people vote the economy, Biden loses. Period. The only issue he wins on is abortion, and I do not think that is going to work unlike in 2022.

    The only other issue Biden was ahead on was "preserving Democracy" which is a talking point Democrats are making over and over again. So there is just this association with them. If the Republicans publicized how Biden was involved with trying to put Trump in jail and is denying secret service protection to RFK Jr. , those numbers would tumble, but it is such a fake issue I do not think Republicans are taking it seriously.

  4. #14433

    Ah ok

    Ok, this explains RFK Jr's obvious cognitive impairment and memory loss. But those worms must have found their way into Trump's and his supporters' brains as well.

    How else to account for their obvious cognitive impairment and bizarre form of amnesia on the important issues of Trump's economic policies and stewardship adding Trillions to the deficit while producing at least a Million fewer jobs with it than without it even before his policies and stewardship laid the groundwork for the earliest Covid cases to spread unreported in secrecy in those Chinese labs, thereby converting a likely manageable endemic confined to one region of China into the deadly, worldwide economy-destroying, supply chain-collapsing, hyper inflation-triggering Trump's Pandemic it became and made even worse by his critical 2020 Year of Lies about it, the 2 Bear Market declines in the broad USA Stock Market on his watch, the severe Recessions in Manufacturing and Agriculture, pre Trump's Pandemic, requiring emergency Welfare Checks to be sent out, the double spike in illegal border crossings and the increase in crime rates on his watch and so on?

    It can't all be pawned off as mere America-hating evil, can it?

    NYT: RFK Jr. says worm got into my brain and ate a portion of it
    May 8, 2024


    https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/polit...ite/index.html

    (CNN) Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. experienced a series of health issues in recent years, including an abnormality that he said was caused by a worm that entered his brain and then died, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.

    In 2010, Kennedy, now 70, experienced severe memory loss and mental fog, he said in a deposition two years later. According to the Times, he consulted top neurologists familiar with the medical history of his uncle, the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, who had died of brain cancer in 2009. A New York doctor, after reviewing a scan of his brain, told him that his health issues could be caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died, Kennedy said in the 2012 deposition, which concerned a divorce from his second wife, Mary Richardson Kennedy. Robert Kennedy said at the time that his earning power had been negatively affected by the cognitive issues, the Times reported.

  5. #14432

    As expected, the Repub's / Trump's sucker social issue win is terrible for business

    While it will be great for my California rental property income, that California investment would have continued to do very well for me without Trump and his fellow anti Sex For Pleasure ChristoFacist Repubs driving businesses away from Red States well into the future.

    I mean, damn, the freeway traffic, restaurant and entertainment venues in my property area are crowded and popular enough already!

    Abortion bans drive away up to half of young talent: New CNBC / Generation Lab poll.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/07/abor...ndroidappshare

    Almost two-thirds of younger workers would probably not or definitely not live in a state that banned abortion, a new NBC/Generation Lab survey finds.

    These numbers on abortion have gigantic implications for just about every large company in America, said Cyrus Beschloss, the CEO of The Generation Lab.

    In the past two years, more than 20 states have either banned or restricted access to the procedure.
    ......
    The youngest generation of American workers is prepared to move away from states that pass abortion bans and to turn down job offers in states where bans are already in place, a new survey from CNBC/Generation Lab finds.
    ......
    "These numbers on abortion have gigantic implications for just about every large company in America, said Cyrus Beschloss, the CEO of The Generation Lab. Companies must know theyll be freezing out or at least scaring a large part of the young talent theyre trying to hire when theyre based in one of these states."
    California and New York were kind of hoping the blessed trend of movement out of our states by Americans who simply can't cut it with regard to income, rent and mortgage payments might finally result in a few deadbeat Red States starting to carry their load in the USA Economy and Federal Revenue.

    But I guess that hope has been dashed for now.

  6. #14431

    Compared to Trump? Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    With your Clown World Stats-- Everything is Soooooooooooo. Great!!
    Its the Biden vs. Trump Economy and Hell No, Its Not Even Close.
    The facts are clear: Biden has overseen a stronger economy than Trump did. That reality should dominate his reelection.
    March 25, 2024


    https://newrepublic.com/article/1800...not-even-close

    Biden vs Trump on the economy: And the winner is.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden...164241570.html

    Bear on mind, this Mainstream Media overview is every bit as pro Repub "Bothsider" as the rest and therefore promotes the fully debunked Trumpian lie that Trump's Pandemic just "came out of nowhere. Nobody could have predicted or warned about such a thing" when the facts as fully reported contemporaneously are clear; defunding and removing the highly regarded Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention teams that Obama had stationed in those Chinese labs months before the first Covid cases emerged and therefore allowed a likely manageable endemic confined and isolated in one region of China to be converted into the Trump's Pandemic it became WAS Trump's economic and national security policy.

    Imagine how much better and stronger Biden's terrific economy would be today if he had inherited the stable and superior economic conditions the Obama-Biden Administration handed Trump instead of the colossal shit-storm of a typical Repub economic disaster Biden inherited from Trump. LOL.

    Add to which other factors such as Trump keeping America neck deep in a quagmire of a Repub-initiated War in the Middle East for every minute of every hour of every day of his atrocious so-called presidency vs Biden pulling us out of it in the safest, best organized, least deadly withdrawal of a losing side from an occupied country in the history of modern warfare 3 years ago with zero direct USA Military involvement in any War anywhere on the planet ever since, that whole Trump incitement of a violent, cop-attacking and cop-killing mob of insurrectionists to storm the Capitol in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy as well as Trump's personal involvement in setting up Fake Electors, blackmail and bribe state secretaries into stealing the 2020 election etc and, no question or doubt about it, things are great today compared with what Trump created 4 years ago, 5 years ago, 6 years ago and 7 years ago.

  7. #14430

    LOL-- You Serious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    For those Repubs, and affordable ISG INCEL conspiracists, that just love to fawn all over themselves and cream their pants, when it comes to celebrity endorsements, Howard Stern, may have just sealed the deal...for a BIDEN win!!!

    And hey, look mom, no celebrity flip-flopping, grandstanding, word salad or clever backpedaling, surrounding an ambiguous interview, with 'misconstrued words' I said, w/r to my unwavering support for President Joe Biden.

    Biden Revisits His Past in Interview With Howard Stern
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/26/u...ern-trump.html

    In an interview with President Joe Biden, Howard says while he votes Republican most times, he will not vote for an idiot (in Trump), that wants to destroy DEMOCRACY.

    With at peak viewership in late 2019 at around 35 million, that's a big boost for Biden, among white males. Howard Stern audience are upscale professionals. 74% of his audience are between 25-54 years of age with an average household income of $160k. 73% Male and 27% female. 34% college graduates, 85% white.
    Howard Who? No one gives a crap about Howard anymore-- he is a Big Joke-- Especially how he hid in his house for 5 years afraid of the covid-.

    Howard has lost his clout long ago-.

    He had his head up Senile Biden's ass in that interview-.

    Here is a great Re-cap.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM7qH-LUTLw

  8. #14429

    LOL-- You're Hilarious

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    So the CIA Is behind Biden's record high jobs creation, near record consecutive months of unemployment rates below 4%, wage gains, bi-partisan CHIPS and Science legislation, zero Major Repub-style Bear Market declines, multiple All-time Record High Closes in the Broad USA Stock Market, zero Great Repub-style Depressions or Great Recessions, zero Repub-style Massive Jobs Destruction, historic expansion and strengthening the spread of democracy by the addition of 2 NATO Member nations, reversing Trump and Putin's failed attempts to weaken and overthrow democracies and make the world a welcome haven for authoritarian dictatorships, save rather than mass murder millions of people around the world by not laying the groundwork foundation for any opportunistic potential Pandemic virus and lie us into an even worse one after it has predictably spread out of control and on and on and on?

    Well, damn, let's give them 4 more years to keep up the good work by spreading the "good news" to loony Biden / Dem-haters that a vote for Biden and his obviously far superior economic and national security results vs any Repub in the past 100 years if not since forever is not really a vote for an "evil" (to America-hating Repubs) Democrat but for a much younger demographic "CIA" instead!

    So far, this "CIA" has accomplished more positive economic and national security results for the USA than perhaps any Repub so-called president ever and spectacularly more than any or all of the previous 8+ Repub potuses combined!
    With your Clown World Stats-- Everything is Soooooooooooo. Great!!

  9. #14428

    According to what Pathological Liar Trump tells us

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Will the CIA and Biden Admin Pull to Stop the election?? Any ideas? Seems like they will do anything to stop DJT.
    They'll probably start claiming elections are rigged and that America will be a Bloodbath regardless who wins, either by Trump Repub inconsolable rage and disappointment if Dem Biden hits 270 EVs or by Repub Trump retribution for him finally being forced to face justice for his various crimes if he hits 270 EVs.

    That's what Repub Trump has promised anyway.

    Oh. You were asking about Dem Biden. Nevermind.

    Dems are into democracy because democracy is into them. They like having elections and want every eligible voter's vote to count.

    Repubs are not into democracy because, obviously, democracy is just not into them. They really hate elections and would much rather no voter's votes be counted, just hand it ChristoFacist Mike and Moscow Marjorie Taylor Greene to follow Trump's orders for the decision.

  10. #14427

    What Fake National Emergency.

    Will the CIA and Biden Admin Pull to Stop the election?? Any ideas? Seems like they will do anything to stop DJT.

  11. #14426

    It would be So Great if

    Some of these vax injured people whose lives have been ruined would take up arms and get Street Justice for their misery or perhaps some the survivors of people murdered by the crap vax-.

  12. #14425

    Then the CIA Would Be Better POTUSes Than Any Repub Has Ever Been

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    The CIA has their hands up Senile Biden's Ass and he does whatever they want.
    So the CIA Is behind Biden's record high jobs creation, near record consecutive months of unemployment rates below 4%, wage gains, bi-partisan CHIPS and Science legislation, zero Major Repub-style Bear Market declines, multiple All-time Record High Closes in the Broad USA Stock Market, zero Great Repub-style Depressions or Great Recessions, zero Repub-style Massive Jobs Destruction, historic expansion and strengthening the spread of democracy by the addition of 2 NATO Member nations, reversing Trump and Putin's failed attempts to weaken and overthrow democracies and make the world a welcome haven for authoritarian dictatorships, save rather than mass murder millions of people around the world by not laying the groundwork foundation for any opportunistic potential Pandemic virus and lie us into an even worse one after it has predictably spread out of control and on and on and on?

    Well, damn, let's give them 4 more years to keep up the good work by spreading the "good news" to loony Biden / Dem-haters that a vote for Biden and his obviously far superior economic and national security results vs any Repub in the past 100 years if not since forever is not really a vote for an "evil" (to America-hating Repubs) Democrat but for a much younger demographic "CIA" instead!

    So far, this "CIA" has accomplished more positive economic and national security results for the USA than perhaps any Repub so-called president ever and spectacularly more than any or all of the previous 8+ Repub potuses combined!

  13. #14424

    It would be funny if it wern't so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Biden at Correspondents' Dinner, unleashes his GREAT sense of humor!

    Watch Biden's full remarks at the 2024 White House Correspondents' dinner
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZfK5ms5M4

    WATCH: Biden unleashes jabs at Trump during remarks at White House Correspondents Dinner
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ondents-dinner

    Refreshing again, to see a president with a sense of humor, that makes you laugh and isn't afraid of laughing at himself.

    Thanks, for the laughs Joe!
    The CIA has their hands up Senile Biden's Ass and he does whatever they want.

  14. #14423

    "Sewing Chaos, Fear and Anarchy", the new Repub/RNC 2024 Election Mantra?

    Even more so in the 2024 election, do the GOP, QAnon\MAGA Repubs and the RNC, want to attack our democratic voting machinery. Meaning this time around in the 2024 election, they want to sew division, doubt and disdain, by filing even more frivolous litigation and law suits, going after, how votes are counted, tabulated, processed and how elections are going to be ran, according to state bylaws and election procedure manuals.

    In three states (AZ, NV, MN), Repubs want to throw out and eliminate the election protection laws/rules that protect election officials. Apparently, they have the ludicrous belief, that they have a 1st Amendment Right to harass and intimidate election officials. (...kkkk!) I guess if that we're true, protesters would equally have the same right to harass and intimidate police officers.

    Now, not being able to win the popular vote (and losing by 3 million in 2016, by 7 million in 2020 and [...let's speculate for argument sake and say, lose by a projected] 10 million in 2024), means Repubs will simply and literally sew chaos, fear and anarchy, with the goal of gumming up the courts, with frivolous lawsuits, in an attempt to manufacture a win from a free and fair 2024 election, where Trump AGAIN loses the popular vote, by several millions.

    Lawsuits over voting in multiple states create shadow war for the 2024 election, April 21, 2024
    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-2024-election

    Its not a new strategy. But with recent internal changes at the RNC and added pressure from the former president, the legal maneuvering is expected to play an increasingly significant role for the party as Election Day in November approaches. The lawsuits are useful for campaign messaging, fundraising and raising doubts about the validity of the election. ...

    This is something that's very important to President Trump, she said. He has said that this is something the RNC should do year-round.
    If it isn't obvious by now, Trump wants (and can ONLY win), the 2024 election, by way of "a hockey assist" from SCOTUS.

  15. #14422

    Americans can freely laugh again at their President...without the fear of threats!

    Biden at Correspondents' Dinner, unleashes his GREAT sense of humor!

    Watch Biden's full remarks at the 2024 White House Correspondents' dinner
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZfK5ms5M4

    WATCH: Biden unleashes jabs at Trump during remarks at White House Correspondents Dinner
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ondents-dinner

    Refreshing again, to see a president with a sense of humor, that makes you laugh and isn't afraid of laughing at himself.

    Thanks, for the laughs Joe!

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