Madrid

[Andalus Expat]

Yes, and some of us prefer that and are willing to pay a bit more. Most people immigrate to other countries and / or pursue higher education to improve their lot in life. It is not unrealistic for them to charge more than they would have in their homeland for sex work, or to charge more even in their adopted country than ladies with less overall ambition such as the ones who hang out at clubs all day and night with no plan for the rest of their lifetimes.

I will say one very favorable thing about Colombians both in Colombia and abroad. They hit the ground running at eighteen, unlike so many countries that buy into this childhood lasts until twenty-five based on some silly psychobabble study. There are more 18-25 year old Colombian hotties in the industry than most any other nationality.

Oh indeed. The energy the colombianas have for separating their victims from their dosh is legendary in the industry. But let's hear it for the workhorses, paraguayas. Because of the S. Americans working in Spain you'll encounter more paraguayas than any of the others. For hotness, my vote would go to Venezuela. There a venezolana I know, if you walk into a restaurant with her you usually get at least a couple of seconds silence. As all the men's jaws drop & all the women grind their teeth.

Club girls? Club girls are hustlers. Very few girls want to work in clubs. They're ghastly places to work in. They're not even a big part of the industry although foreigners coming to Spain might think they are. That preselection thing again. Far more popular in Madrid are the houses. There's at least a dozen big ones with as many as a couple dozen girls on the strength. Where the Spanish prefer to go.

[Mongerer88]

Where one chooses to go, what contact services one uses preselects for the sort of people one will encounter. And not only are you looking for them but they are looking for you. Even being a foreign visitor to Spain on a puta quest preselects. Just looking at ISG boards sees the constant recycling of much the same information. If one knows the place one knows there far more available than that. But much of it may be inaccessible if you've little or no Spanish or no appetite for exploration.

Yes, and some of us prefer that and are willing to pay a bit more. Most people immigrate to other countries and / or pursue higher education to improve their lot in life. It is not unrealistic for them to charge more than they would have in their homeland for sex work, or to charge more even in their adopted country than ladies with less overall ambition such as the ones who hang out at clubs all day and night with no plan for the rest of their lifetimes.

I will say one very favorable thing about Colombians both in Colombia and abroad. They hit the ground running at eighteen, unlike so many countries that buy into this childhood lasts until twenty-five based on some silly psychobabble study. There are more 18-25 year old Colombian hotties in the industry than most any other nationality.

[Andalus Expat]

Okay. I found the Colombian, Jacqueline, I used to see in Barcelona very intelligent. I may have over assumed that other Colombians in Spain were like her.

I didn't realize so many of them were simple and uneducated while living in Spain.

And some of us come from countries where a not insignificant number of female college students do some independent escorting of Seeking Arrangement work to earn a good living while studying, so I may have over assumed that is occurring in Spain. And I was assuming it might be occurring with respect to Colombian independent escorts and agency ladies in Spain. I can certainly understand that at late night and roadside clubs, there might be fewer ladies who are also studying. But my guess is that ladies working in a club environment, staying up all night and drinking, might be charging a per sex act price closer to the amount the original poster desired. But still higher than they got in their homeland, since they were bright enough to board the big plane over the pond.

Where one chooses to go, what contact services one uses preselects for the sort of people one will encounter. And not only are you looking for them but they are looking for you. Even being a foreign visitor to Spain on a puta quest preselects. Just looking at ISG boards sees the constant recycling of much the same information. If one knows the place one knows there far more available than that. But much of it may be inaccessible if you've little or no Spanish or no appetite for exploration.

[Mongerer88]

Sorry mate but I've know a lot of Colombian girls since I've lived in Spain Certainly well north of a hundred. And not just in client-puta relationship. I've participated in running houses so employing them. And since I know a lot of people in that world, socially. I've had to sort problems out for them, assist them remitting money back home, getting residence, renting places to live you name it. Dealing with people at that level, it isn't hard to assess their educational achievement. Mostly it's pretty basic. (Although the do seem to be able to write & spell better than those who've been through the Spanish education system) I can't think of one who'd been to university. And of them I've known they either don't speak English or have picked up some basic whilst they've been here. It doesn't even make sense. Colombia's a very stratified society. Any colombiana who's been to university is already in a higher strata. They don't need to come to Spain puta-ing. They'd be going down not up. Doesn't mean there aren't colombianas coming to Spain on student visas of course. If that's what gets them here.

Brasilieras maybe. But Brasil's an entirely different culture. Not so closed off as Hispanic S. A. A lot of them start off having languages. Couple I can think of off hand. Mata Groso. Fluent Italian / German from her parents & also obviously Portuguese. Wild child. Dropped out from uni, came to Europe, never went back. Gravitated to Spain so now fluent Spanish & a working English. Paulista. Middle class family Sao P. Her sisters are both here & ex-uni, married or ex-married to guys here. One I know's German. She originally came to Spain to assist her sister when she had a baby but they fell out & she didn't want to go back, so got on the game. She has in addition to Portuguese, German from her family, school English, acquired Spanish & a surprising amount of Japanese from schoolfriends. SP has a big Jap community. But even most brasilieras are more limited. The baiana's become a big part of my life's from the favela of Salvador, left school at 14. Now she's going to classes to make up for it & well done her. But I don't think she'll ever master more than very basic English. The only other country I can think of is Argentina. Much weaker Spanish influence because of who went there back when & at one time one of the world's richest countries. So there's at least a widespread legacy of education amongst its middle classes. And these days a lot of skint middle classses.

Okay. I found the Colombian, Jacqueline, I used to see in Barcelona very intelligent. I may have over assumed that other Colombians in Spain were like her.

I didn't realize so many of them were simple and uneducated while living in Spain.

And some of us come from countries where a not insignificant number of female college students do some independent escorting of Seeking Arrangement work to earn a good living while studying, so I may have over assumed that is occurring in Spain. And I was assuming it might be occurring with respect to Colombian independent escorts and agency ladies in Spain. I can certainly understand that at late night and roadside clubs, there might be fewer ladies who are also studying. But my guess is that ladies working in a club environment, staying up all night and drinking, might be charging a per sex act price closer to the amount the original poster desired. But still higher than they got in their homeland, since they were bright enough to board the big plane over the pond.

[Andalus Expat]

It is also useful to note that because an ocean is involved, the ladies coming from Colombia and other parts of central and South America to Spain are often arriving on student and "non-sex work" visas, and doing sex work part-time. So you are getting a more educated lady who can converse and has some world experience. . Many Colombian imports in Spain are bilingual, especially if they are on a student visa.

Sorry mate but I've know a lot of Colombian girls since I've lived in Spain Certainly well north of a hundred. And not just in client-puta relationship. I've participated in running houses so employing them. And since I know a lot of people in that world, socially. I've had to sort problems out for them, assist them remitting money back home, getting residence, renting places to live you name it. Dealing with people at that level, it isn't hard to assess their educational achievement. Mostly it's pretty basic. (Although the do seem to be able to write & spell better than those who've been through the Spanish education system) I can't think of one who'd been to university. And of them I've known they either don't speak English or have picked up some basic whilst they've been here. It doesn't even make sense. Colombia's a very stratified society. Any colombiana who's been to university is already in a higher strata. They don't need to come to Spain puta-ing. They'd be going down not up. Doesn't mean there aren't colombianas coming to Spain on student visas of course. If that's what gets them here.

Brasilieras maybe. But Brasil's an entirely different culture. Not so closed off as Hispanic S. A. A lot of them start off having languages. Couple I can think of off hand. Mata Groso. Fluent Italian / German from her parents & also obviously Portuguese. Wild child. Dropped out from uni, came to Europe, never went back. Gravitated to Spain so now fluent Spanish & a working English. Paulista. Middle class family Sao P. Her sisters are both here & ex-uni, married or ex-married to guys here. One I know's German. She originally came to Spain to assist her sister when she had a baby but they fell out & she didn't want to go back, so got on the game. She has in addition to Portuguese, German from her family, school English, acquired Spanish & a surprising amount of Japanese from schoolfriends. SP has a big Jap community. But even most brasilieras are more limited. The baiana's become a big part of my life's from the favela of Salvador, left school at 14. Now she's going to classes to make up for it & well done her. But I don't think she'll ever master more than very basic English. The only other country I can think of is Argentina. Much weaker Spanish influence because of who went there back when & at one time one of the world's richest countries. So there's at least a widespread legacy of education amongst its middle classes. And these days a lot of skint middle classses.

[Mongerer88]

I hate to break it to you but with Colombia you are already in one of the lowest priced sex destinations in the world. Yes Brazil can compete. And Jakarta is apparently the new best bang for the buck. But Europe is simply expensive. For everything not just pussy. Spain believe it or not is one of the cheaper countries in Europe. But you are going to struggle to find quality under 150/ HR. Or maybe 100/ HR but plenty of bait and switch and in the end it costs more.

So if you have a problem paying triple Colombian prices I would def not come to Europe. (Really anywhere in Europe. It doesn't get better.).

Exactly, and you certainly have enough USA Experience with Seeking and I do with independent USA High-end escorts to know that 150 euros an hour is not "USA Pricing" as his post indicates. USA High-end escorts get $400 to $700 an hour depending on the size of the city and other factors. Sure the USA Has a huge low-end hooker scene, but that isn't appealing to many of us. The Madrid ladies in the 150 to 200 euro per hour range are comparable to USA High-end escorts (the Madrid ladies are often younger than the USA). If you want, you can do a price comparison to the USA Seeking ladies that you see. It is also useful to note that because an ocean is involved, the ladies coming from Colombia and other parts of central and South America to Spain are often arriving on student and "non-sex work" visas, and doing sex work part-time. So you are getting a more educated lady who can converse and has some world experience. One lady I saw at Vecinitas in Barcelona was part Japanese, part Brazilian and had lived in three continents and went to high school in Texas. She was fascinating to talk to between cums. You just don't get that either in the low-end scene in the USA, or as much in South America, especially if a language barrier exists. Many Colombian imports in Spain are bilingual, especially if they are on a student visa.

[Steve 9696]

OK. I'm familiar with Colombia, Dominican and republican and the Philippines. My preference is Colombia. I've been reading a lot of posts here and I can't get around the amount that's paid. These are essentially prices in the USA. I'm not judging about what people pay but I'm not looking to travel to Spain to pay the same prices here in the USA. So I guess I'm trying to get a feel of the price range for all the different venues. I don't usually do street meat but if they are cheaper I will consider them instead. There are a lot of Colombians in Spain and I can't see paying them 150 or more an hour when I can pay them 40 or less in Colombia. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

I hate to break it to you but with Colombia you are already in one of the lowest priced sex destinations in the world. Yes Brazil can compete. And Jakarta is apparently the new best bang for the buck. But Europe is simply expensive. For everything not just pussy. Spain believe it or not is one of the cheaper countries in Europe. But you are going to struggle to find quality under 150/ HR. Or maybe 100/ HR but plenty of bait and switch and in the end it costs more.

So if you have a problem paying triple Colombian prices I would def not come to Europe. (Really anywhere in Europe. It doesn't get better.).

[MisterJam]

OK. I'm familiar with Colombia, Dominican and republican and the Philippines. My preference is Colombia. I've been reading a lot of posts here and I can't get around the amount that's paid. These are essentially prices in the USA. I'm not judging about what people pay but I'm not looking to travel to Spain to pay the same prices here in the USA. So I guess I'm trying to get a feel of the price range for all the different venues. I don't usually do street meat but if they are cheaper I will consider them instead. There are a lot of Colombians in Spain and I can't see paying them 150 or more an hour when I can pay them 40 or less in Colombia. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

[PdSuave]

Hey guys, I will be in Madrid in late October, looking at staying in an Area between Prada museo and Estadio Santiago Bernabeu. For those that have stayed near here, is this area in reasonable proximity to MPs and apartments for "that thing we do"?

[KyivBound1986]

Hotel prices are out of control in most European Capital city, try to check airbnb.

Thanks, yeah I'll have to stay in an airbnb as they're out of control the hotel prices.

[Christian G]

Try this https://placermadrid.es/en/.

And their sister brothel https://palaciodelplacer.es/.

[Christian G]

I booked Madrid for a few days at the end of May / start of June. Absolutely shocked with the cost of hotels. I know it is peak time but still its crazy.

Hotel prices are out of control in most European Capital city, try to check airbnb.

[Austin28]

Even though I'm more of a massage guy, but since coming to Spain, seems like the full service girls are a lot better quality, younger and much cheaper. Massage places I've been to in Barcelona all charge insane tourist prices and have older ladies working. In Eastern Europe such as Prague and Moscow, the massage girls are almost always of a higher quality and younger than full service girls. Girls like students etc. Who don't want to be seen as a "working girl" and want to keep it safe.

Anyway, to my surprise, due to the sheer quality of looks in these apartments, I've thus come to enjoy the apartment setup in Barcelona, the likes of Eden, Vecinitas and Teens, all filled with youthful hotties, nothing above 25, with clear schedules, and easy appointment setup.

However, can't seem to find anything similar in madrid, with my limited research.

Anyone found any similar apartments in madrid?

And any recommended massage places not charging insane tourist prices, with a lineup of youthful ladies?

Intel and feedback would be much appreciated.

Try this https://placermadrid.es/en/.

[KyivBound1986]

I booked Madrid for a few days at the end of May / start of June. Absolutely shocked with the cost of hotels. I know it is peak time but still its crazy.

[SeekingHead]

It seems others have addressed the logistics point. But let me add that this notion of Shame is unique to the US in my opinion. I have just flown a hottie from Rio to Euro (we dated a bit beforehand) and jointly checked in Spain France and UK without anyone batting an eye. Even went thru immigration together in France and UK. No issue at all with our 30 year age gap. Sex shaming is a uniquely horrible American concept IMO.

Pretty much the reason why I will retire in Southern Spain along with the great weather & outdoor activities. Nobody will bat an eye when your 65 years old & out with a early 30's model on your arm.