Makati

[Goferring]

As I've mentioned a number of times on this forum, I don't really do the typical bar scene.

Phil.

Skipping the bar scene really opens up a lot of other opportunities. I regard myself as a Cheap Charlie and also not a great fan of bar fines, especially AC's 100% prepaid bar fines. Hence, the 10 k saved on Walking Street or Burgos can be put to good use elsewhere. A good girl will say thanks for a 5 k meal and a naughty girl will appreciate that 5 k for services rendered without having to split it with anyone.

I'd agree with your comment that gogos aren't always the best place to get laid and certainly not the only. With all the online and independent options now, that even applies to the their traditional market, the two day warriors in town on business.

Enjoy. G.

[PhilJoy]

Yes you will get BBFS. All the time without issue. Its still not worth the flight from the US though, especially for a week. AC is a shit hole, women are overpriced (USD 80-100) and not that pretty. Manila has prettier girls but at $200/ night is it worth the travel? The best fun is with non pros but as a one week visitor you will have limited success. However, if BBFS sex at any price with average girls is enough for you, then sure, you will find it in spades. I have been to the Phils dozens of times since 2005, fucked hundreds of women and used a condom exactly 0 times. That includes bar girls, non pros, semi pros, etc etc.

I agree with what you've said Expat. Yes, AC is a shithole and I haven't been there that much, but it works out well for me with business trips to the PH. By the time you add up hotel prices, lady drinks, bar fines etc. You could probably stay at home and see a hooker for the same price.

However, over my travels I've built up a fairly good contact list of girls in the Philippines and usually have it sorted out in advance in every city I go to for work.

As I've mentioned a number of times on this forum, I don't really do the typical bar scene. Sourcing the friends and relatives of hotel security guys, taxi drivers etc. Has been a great way to operate and I've got loads of hotties who I message prior to arriving. I pay them accordingly for their services without having to compensate employers. And there's only one in Makati who insists on using a condom every time, but she's amazing and the dual shower beforehand and afterwards definitely makes up for a bit of 'rubber' use. Phil.

[NvRoberto]

These girls in and around the Makati / pasay / BGC area on the telegram / whatapp groups seem to request a condom more than other areas. Usually Street freelancers will ask and I shrug my shoulders and dive in but telegram and whatapp girls explicitly state this on their ads has been the trend. I automatically filter these out if they say that most likely service will also be shit.

I see the exact same ads, messages, whatever. Almost every time I have asked what the bareback price, I get quoted a price. Or I tell them I'm ready to meet, but no condom. 90% of the time they say ok, or pull out. Rarely had a girl in the past 3 years who insisted.

[Locamotive]

It's not 100% but bare is still the default in the PI. The only girls that I've had insist are the hard core pros who are churning through a mountain of guys per day or girls who are trying to pisss me off so that I will throw them out early.

It's so common that I don't even ask first nor include it deal breaker discussions. That's pointless anyway as I've had many girls insist within earshot of friends, mamas etc and then mysteriously forget when back in the room.

Note that some will insist on no CIP but if you are happy to pull out, then that's not an issue. Expect her to get furious if you make the promise and fail to keep it.

20 years ago it was even more ubiquitous. You must have found the only girl in the country who knew what a condom was. 😜.

Enjoy. G.

I've seen this condom discussion pop up a few times. Condom is not even a word there. Basically I've never been refused BB in Philippines, Vietnam or Thailand, certainly not in the Philippines. If you look and smell clean and dick looks normal you will be fine. Been coming to Philippines over a decade, never used a condom. Be cautious though with girls outside of bars as no medical checks. Granted the checks are not western quality, but its something. Way back 15 years or so when I started there Greenbelt was the thing and picked up many a girl there, until some buddies caught STD's. From then on I've used bars only with no issues. I love how when I say to them, honey your probably taking a risk doing BB all the time. These are my regulars, oh honey I only do BB with you, never with guys I don't know. Hehehe. Yeah but how many guys do you know. None are using them, the hardcore pros maybe, but 99% of them no.

[ThreeInches]

I think most gents on the board will tell you that Filipinas generally don't ask for or require a condom.

These girls in and around the Makati / pasay / BGC area on the telegram / whatapp groups seem to request a condom more than other areas. Usually Street freelancers will ask and I shrug my shoulders and dive in but telegram and whatapp girls explicitly state this on their ads has been the trend. I automatically filter these out if they say that most likely service will also be shit.

[Turgid]

Gentlemen, please advise about the availability of bareback sex from women in Manila, and Angeles City.....

Availability is there but just keep handy some metronidazole or tinidazole and antiviral drugs.

[PhilJoy]

I think most gents on the board will tell you that Filipinas generally don't ask for or require a condom.

Have only ever had one in 20 years Westie. And then she wanted to give me a BJ afterwards without one. Not sure how that works. Phil.

[Expat American]

Gentlemen, please advise about the availability of bareback sex from women in Manila, and Angeles City. I am not worried about having children; I have a low sperm count. And VD, I can always take a shot but have never had anything. And I always pull out anyway, so the women gets her shot on her ass.

What concerns me is the cost and time to travel to the Phils. One day each way, then jet lag for the rest of the week, and about $2,000 in airfare. Not sure I would want to travel that far for sex with a condom barrier. The women may be sweet, but I want the real thing, if I am going to travel that far.

Yes, I have seen the website for Manila Courtesans and the videos of some of the beauties. But if only condom sex, I would prefer to pass and stay in my own hemisphere.

Comments? I did go to Angeles City before, a couple of times about 15-20 years ago. Was able to get some bare then, but most was covered. Enjoyable time, nonetheless. But now I am 25 years older, and the jet lag and travel time is less appealing, my testosterone level is much lower, and my sense of adventure is lower too. Thanks, gentlemen!

Yes you will get BBFS. All the time without issue. Its still not worth the flight from the US though, especially for a week. AC is a shit hole, women are overpriced (USD 80-100) and not that pretty. Manila has prettier girls but at $200/ night is it worth the travel? The best fun is with non pros but as a one week visitor you will have limited success. However, if BBFS sex at any price with average girls is enough for you, then sure, you will find it in spades. I have been to the Phils dozens of times since 2005, fucked hundreds of women and used a condom exactly 0 times. That includes bar girls, non pros, semi pros, etc etc.

[WestCoast1]

What concerns me is the cost and time to travel to the Phils. One day each way, then jet lag for the rest of the week, and about $2,000 in airfare. Not sure I would want to travel that far for sex with a condom barrier. The women may be sweet, but I want the real thing, if I am going to travel that far.

Yes, I have seen the website for Manila Courtesans and the videos of some of the beauties. But if only condom sex, I would prefer to pass and stay in my own hemisphere.

Comments? I did go to Angeles City before, a couple of times about 15-20 years ago. Was able to get some bare then, but most was covered. Enjoyable time, nonetheless. But now I am 25 years older, and the jet lag and travel time is less appealing, my testosterone level is much lower, and my sense of adventure is lower too. Thanks, gentlemen!

I haven't seen a ton of ladies in the Philippines, but my body count there is one that was condom-only and five that hated condoms and either refused or complained about them. This is two pros, two freelancers, and two regular girls (thought I'm in a relationship with them). So, I think your chances are good. Just be kind and say what you want away from other women. If they don't agree, then move on.

I think most gents on the board will tell you that Filipinas generally don't ask for or require a condom. However that doesn't mean that you won't run into that. You can eliminate those that do want one by questioning them before the deed. Couple of other thoughts:

* Other than MC, you didn't specify where you plan to pull girls from (SW, LAC, gogos, online FL). It would help to know your target environment.

* It might not be a good idea to travel long distance for just a week's taste, given the large expense and the other options you have closer to home.

Enjoy the view.

[Goferring]

Gentlemen, please advise about the availability of bareback sex from women in Manila, and Angeles City...

It's not 100% but bare is still the default in the PI. The only girls that I've had insist are the hard core pros who are churning through a mountain of guys per day or girls who are trying to pisss me off so that I will throw them out early.

It's so common that I don't even ask first nor include it deal breaker discussions. That's pointless anyway as I've had many girls insist within earshot of friends, mamas etc and then mysteriously forget when back in the room.

Note that some will insist on no CIP but if you are happy to pull out, then that's not an issue. Expect her to get furious if you make the promise and fail to keep it.

20 years ago it was even more ubiquitous. You must have found the only girl in the country who knew what a condom was. 😜.

Enjoy. G.

[Aml3740]

Gentlemen, please advise about the availability of bareback sex from women in Manila, and Angeles City. I am not worried about having children; I have a low sperm count. And VD, I can always take a shot but have never had anything. And I always pull out anyway, so the women gets her shot on her ass.

What concerns me is the cost and time to travel to the Phils. One day each way, then jet lag for the rest of the week, and about $2,000 in airfare. Not sure I would want to travel that far for sex with a condom barrier. The women may be sweet, but I want the real thing, if I am going to travel that far.

Yes, I have seen the website for Manila Courtesans and the videos of some of the beauties. But if only condom sex, I would prefer to pass and stay in my own hemisphere.

Comments? I did go to Angeles City before, a couple of times about 15-20 years ago. Was able to get some bare then, but most was covered. Enjoyable time, nonetheless. But now I am 25 years older, and the jet lag and travel time is less appealing, my testosterone level is much lower, and my sense of adventure is lower too. Thanks, gentlemen!

I am kind of the opposite. I prefer a condom if I am not in a relationship with the girl. I had one escort with Manila Courtesans hop on me BBFS when I asked her not to, and a freelancer do the same (her reason is she said she knew I wanted to use a condom, but she really hated them and wanted to feel me inside). I haven't seen a ton of ladies in the Philippines, but my body count there is one that was condom-only and five that hated condoms and either refused or complained about them. This is two pros, two freelancers, and two regular girls (thought I'm in a relationship with them). So, I think your chances are good. Just be kind and say what you want away from other women. If they don't agree, then move on.

[HumbleHal]

Gentlemen, please advise about the availability of bareback sex from women in Manila, and Angeles City. I am not worried about having children; I have a low sperm count. And VD, I can always take a shot but have never had anything. And I always pull out anyway, so the women gets her shot on her ass.

What concerns me is the cost and time to travel to the Phils. One day each way, then jet lag for the rest of the week, and about $2,000 in airfare. Not sure I would want to travel that far for sex with a condom barrier. The women may be sweet, but I want the real thing, if I am going to travel that far.

Yes, I have seen the website for Manila Courtesans and the videos of some of the beauties. But if only condom sex, I would prefer to pass and stay in my own hemisphere.

Comments? I did go to Angeles City before, a couple of times about 15-20 years ago. Was able to get some bare then, but most was covered. Enjoyable time, nonetheless. But now I am 25 years older, and the jet lag and travel time is less appealing, my testosterone level is much lower, and my sense of adventure is lower too. Thanks, gentlemen!

[Banana Boi]

Thanks so much for your report, Pablo. Sounds like you made the most out of a single night in Makati.

[WestCoast1]

Long story short, had a few drinks and she was a ton of fun and only 32 kg with a rockin little body. My original plan was to take a girl ST closer to midnight and call it a night but I was thinking I'm not going to do better than this so I took her over to the City Garden Grand for a terrific ST. A good call not hoping she was still around 2 hours later. She was terrific.

Happy that you found value for your pesos. Good descriptive reports (newbs take note), deserving of a pic. May ye find something bubbly while here.

[Pablo]

After the great ST, I went back out and hit the other bar on Muttley81's list, Marquee. I immediately got approached by two really hot young girls, one 36 kg and one 35 kg! I just finished my ST so just wanted to have some fun in the booth and they delivered, but of course at a cost of 4 rounds in probably 45 minutes. I knew what I was getting so I was Ok with it and they were exceptionally hot and slutty. No BJ in the booth though. They kept trying to get me to BF them both which on another night might have been in the cards. The bar looked to have a lot of real hotties that night.

I bailed after I got my fill of lap dances, groping, nipple licking and stinky finger and headed over to my last stop Maison which I remembered fondly from my last trip. I sat down and even though there were maybe 30+ girls working, I had a difficult time finding one I'd call hot. There was one pretty, young, tall girl, but I got no vibe from her. So I just had my drink and let one of the older ladies (I forget what they are called) do a high quality head, neck, shoulder massage. A few of the not so hot girls sat and chatted with me annoyingly asking me the same questions over and over. They didn't seem bothered that I didn't buy them a drink.

Then this dance team of lesbians do this horrible dance show. In Thailand they'd be called Toms but the girls just called them lesbians even though they really looked like young dudes. It was terrible. So I pay my bin and was about to walk out when a cute but sort of chubby girls comes over and grabs my crotch so I figure why not and bought a round. She was all over me and we got over to the darker side seats and she offered a BJ but I just wasn't feeling it so declined. She was fun and cute but the body not so good and anyway I didn't have the juice for another ST. So after 2 or 3 drinks with her I called it a night now at about 2 AM.

So my Saturday has two really great bars: Marquee the best then Nautika. Then 3 really bad bars for talent: Dimples, Lollipop and Maison. I didn't do Lips or Plan Be because I was looking more for raunchy play than just looking. Next time!

Thanks again.