Cartagena Reports

[RabbidDog]

I mean you easily could've just went to a short term hotel, there's plenty of them and like $10 for a few hours. If you were so paranoid you could've taken exact change and left any kind of card at home.

Or just get out of Cartagena all together. The hotels / AirBnBs are way too expensive for a developing country with very medicore beaches and oppressively hot weather, and they're super restrictive. In other parts of Colombia you won't have so many problems bringing guests. Also you're a bigger target in places like Cartagena since the locals basically want to rip you off everywhere you go. You really need to get a good grasp of Spanish if you love it there because they'll eat you alive otherwise.

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.

I wish she was advertising herself as a hooker and would offer to take me to a showtime hotel. But our encounter was in the presence of her friends and family. This being my third day in Colombia, I didn't want to disrespect her by offering her money for sex, 10 minutes after meeting her at the beach of all places. Are you saying that had I made this proposal? She would've probably accepted? I mean, keep in mind, We're both in swimsuit attire.

At the moment, I'm in San Andreas. Obviously, not here for mongering just to relax. I'm going to Bogota next. Since I am completely a newbie would you suggest a stick to the Casas? I did some research and found out about a few. The one that stuck out is Tanya. Thanks for your advice.

[ElSexoChino7]

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.

If you don't look like gringo, just tell them you don't have USD and already exchange your local money to COP. Don't be telling these women you're from the US in the first place, they don't need to know that shit. Just tell them a different nationality. Worked fine with me all the time as I look Asian. Always negotiate in pesos or move on.

[Orgasmico]

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.

The good ole days are gone. Got to roll with the punches, recalibrate and adopt. Nothing last forever.

[Mr Enternational]

When I get to my Airbnb my host says it's forbidden to invite guests. I later tell her about the girl. She laughs a lot and says she is probably going to rob you. I tell her but she is so young and looks so innocent and her family / entourage didn't give off a criminal vibe.

She is not old and looks so innocent, yet she is willing to go with a stranger that does not even speak her language? Come on man. Didn't give off a criminial vibe? It is not like the dudes getting drugged and robbed are meeting chicks that have a ski mask on and a gun out. Do you think Bernie Madoff gave off a criminal vibe when he ripped off over 40,000 people for $65 billion? I think southeast Asia has lulled you into complacency. Mongering is still street shit and carries all the risks of street shit. I know some places like here in Pattaya make it look like a harmless party, but it is really not that way in most places.

[SlowBlow]

It's too bad there is so much to fear and worry about. I find the woman in Colombia miles hotter than Asians. Conversley in Asia you have zero safety issues. I wish there was a place with a happy medium. So I guess my question is if you were in my shoes what would you differently?

I mean you easily could've just went to a short term hotel, there's plenty of them and like $10 for a few hours. If you were so paranoid you could've taken exact change and left any kind of card at home.

Or just get out of Cartagena all together. The hotels / AirBnBs are way too expensive for a developing country with very medicore beaches and oppressively hot weather, and they're super restrictive. In other parts of Colombia you won't have so many problems bringing guests. Also you're a bigger target in places like Cartagena since the locals basically want to rip you off everywhere you go. You really need to get a good grasp of Spanish if you love it there because they'll eat you alive otherwise.

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.

[Elvis 2008]

I don't send anything monthly but we chat every now and then. I genuinely thinks she just likes the vibe I bring and the people I surround myself with. I'm sure she's charging crazy prices to someone out there but I'm not the guy. I do bless her but she plays a great job at not wanting it but wanting a relationship that I know I will never give her. Sorry but I'm not crazy to think this could ever be a real thing. I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs.

Wes, I am in my place in Cartagena now. Gal just made me dinner. Before that, she rubbed my feet. Before that, she came to the airport to meet me like usual and ran into my arms smiling and this is no novelty we have been together for 3 years now. Her most common request is not one for money but that we spend time together. We have been apart more than usual and besides the sex, she tells me that she cannot sleep well when I am not around. It is not a made up tale. I know when she is awake because we still video chat every night.

Look, you would not be with a woman who was not good in bed, and she would not be with a man who was not financially set. The question is if all she cares about is money, and it does not sound like she is. More importantly, you admire things about her that are not related to sexual skill.

I think that is the problem with being a monger. You are conditioned to hooker and john behavior so much so that when there is a time a woman really likes you, you think it has to be about money. I am not telling you what to do. I just hate that you are so resolved to saying it could never work when I thought the same thing with my current gal.

The plusses of a relationship is you no longer have to hide your ways which is one of those burdens on you that you do not appreciate until it is gone. There is security versus novelty, dependability versus sporadic behavior. The emotions in the monger game are going to be higher and lower no doubt. And then there is real versus paid companionship.

Thing is I enjoyed myself so much in the monger world that even though I have this amazing woman, it is only a little bit better that that world, and I think my gal knows it. Kids are nature's trick to anchor a man, and I am done with full time parenting.

Look, I am not telling you what to do. You just make it seem like it is not a choice, and from what you have described and what I know of Colombian women, it is a choice. What you choose to do is your business.

[RabbidDog]

Hi everyone,

Little background info: My first time in Colombia, but I've been to South East Asia a billion times. Spanish Beginner Level. I can pass for Latin (lookswise). Today was actually my first full day, arrived yesterday in the afternoon. I woke up and decided to walk around Centro, after a few hours I was so tired and sweaty that I took an Uber to Playa Marbella. I find an umberella and two chairs and pay 30,000 COP. Pretty soon the massage lady shows up and gave me a decent but not great massage for 20 minutes 30,000 COP (of course I bargain and she wanted to stop after 15 minutes before I intervened).

Now here's the fun part. Right next to me is a group of chicas in their early twenties. For the first two hours they leave me alone. I noticed they were all very cute but I never make the first move. I then go for a swim to wash off the massage oil and as I get further into the shore all three are catching my attention. I quickly noticed they were smiling at me and I approached them and said "Que Tal. " I start talking with them and we have a pleasant conversation albiet with lots of sign language and Spanglish on my part. One of the three is the cutest and has the lighter skin which I prefer. I quickly start isolating her so the other two get the message. I tell her about myself. Later after a long talk I go back to sit down since it was getting hard to communicate. I tell her to join me.

As I am sitting back in my spot, her entourage starts talking to me and asking about me. I tell them I was talking to one of their friends and I would like to have dinner with her. One of her friends a young Colombian male asks me what I want. I tell him I am only a tourist so I am not looking for anything serious, I really just want sex. He understands completely and tells me I will go call her to come and talk to you. She comes back and we use Google Translate to communicate. I tell her I would like to take her back to my place but only if my Airbnb Host allows it. She at first asked me to come to her place at her sister's house. I told her I didn't feel safe. She agrees to go get cleaned up at her sister's place and then come and meet me at my apartment.

I say adios to her and her entourage. When I get to my Airbnb my host says it's forbidden to invite guests. I later tell her about the girl. She laughs a lot and says she is probably going to rob you. I tell her but she is so young and looks so innocent and her family / entourage didn't give off a criminal vibe. She tells me a lot of chicas in Marbella are working girls. And she wants to sleep with you for money. I tell her that's okay with me, I am just worried that if I did go back to her place (since my apartment is forbidden to have guests) I am looking at getting into some major trouble. Also I could just have taken her to a one hour motel.

So I decide it's not worth it to even eat dinner with her, since I barely know her, it's my first time in Colombia, my spanish sucks, and I am probably biting more than I can chew.

But goddamn she was cute.

It's too bad there is so much to fear and worry about. I find the woman in Colombia miles hotter than Asians. Conversley in Asia you have zero safety issues. I wish there was a place with a happy medium. So I guess my question is if you were in my shoes what would you differently?

[World Wide Wes]

The group I went with was three collective groups put together. The Airbnb we stayed in was in Manga. It was 10 rooms 11 bathrooms pool and 24 HR security. I paid $390. The lead guy who organized the trip has been to CTG more times than I can count and setup the shuttle with someone he met on a previous trip and has brought business to them. Every time we utilized it which was to the beach, dinner, and clubs we paid $75 round trip. When split between all of us we never paid more than $6-10 depending on how many people went. The boat to Cholon was $225 per person. We each brought two bottles of alcohol. For groceries on the first day which lasted us about three days the 7 at the time paid $26 per. For girls I try and deal in local currency. For my Colombian girl I didn't bless her until the last day and I gave her 1 million pesos which is about $400. This is after multiple sessions, a boat trip, and dinner / club. I know I'm renting her time so I didn't feel like this was too much. Others might feel different. The massage was 360,000 pesos for 1 HR which is about $90. We went for 1.5 hrs and I gave her 400,000 pesos which is about $100. For every other girl I blessed them with 250,000 pesos which is about $70. This is for all night sessions and MSOG.

Great report on the things you did, but do you have any prices to go along with any of it? My cousin is celebrating his birthday there next month with a big group and I would like to let him know what kind of prices to expect. Shuttle van, boat, girls, etc. How did you arrange the van? They are all staying in a 6 BR airbnb for 5 days. I am only staying 2 days before moving on to other cities so I will just grab a hotel or something.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs. All in all it was a good trip and I got a good talk on my score sheet.

Great report on the things you did, but do you have any prices to go along with any of it? My cousin is celebrating his birthday there next month with a big group and I would like to let him know what kind of prices to expect. Shuttle van, boat, girls, etc. How did you arrange the van? They are all staying in a 6 BR airbnb for 5 days. I am only staying 2 days before moving on to other cities so I will just grab a hotel or something.

[World Wide Wes]

Arrival:

This trip was from Wednesday to Sunday. This was my 5th to CTG and it never disappoints. Coming in Wednesday the Customs line was completely empty. Apparently several flights had already cleared and there were several planes that were diverted due to weather. Anyhow that allowed me quick entry / exit within 5 min. Getting a taxi was a bit harder as the fake Uber drivers were a little bit overly aggressive but I try to remain calm and friendly even in the face of rudeness because being a foreigner there are certain battles I don't want to partake in. Get to the Airbnb, drop bags and head over to this restaurant outside the wall as some of my early arrival amigos were already seated and waiting. After we eat we go do groceries for the Airbnb and then start pregaming for the night.

1st night Andronega:

Layout of club is decent. There really isn't a dance floor unless you stay in the front club but all the action is in the back club. All I can say is we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Grabbed several numbers for day game action the next day but I actually came to the club with my current Colombian girl. There is a restaurant inside that serves up some great take home wings. You'll thank me later. After the club we head back to the house and I reintroduce myself to my girl.

Day 2 Day action:

Woke up to our maid cooking breakfast for an army. After we ate we all decided we would head to the beach once the final guys arrive. In all there was a total of 10 of us. Once they arrived our lead for the trip organized a Shuttle Van to head to the beach. We literally had a Shuttle Van everywhere we went which helped cause it held 20 people easy. After grabbing a section we ordered drinks and food and took in the sights. For a lot of the guys it was their first time so they were amazed. After grabbing several more numbers we head back to the Airbnb and I start making some calls to get one to come by before we head out for the night. I had this big booty, slim waist, the cup stallion swing by and I definitely had fun. My cousin decided that he wants to take a trip and I ask her if she's ok with that and she states "of course" with a smirk. Once they get done I make her jump in the shower and I take her for one more spin. After another release I grab her a taxi and jump in the shower to get ready for the evening.

Day 2 Night Andronega:

This time I went to the club without my girl so I was able to move around freely. I could have done the same thing when my girl is around but I don't feel the need to disrespect her in her face. For those who know the game you know what I'm trying to say. Per usual it was jam packed and I was a kid in a candy store. After getting bottle service we sat back and started chatting up the group of girls in the table next to us. There was one chica I spoke to who had fowl breath and I had to ask my friend to talk to her to make sure I wasn't making a mistake of where the smell was coming from. Once he confirmed I politely removed myself from her and went to the restroom. At this time I spotted a girl walking out with exact shape I was looking for. She was around 5'9 and shaped like a coke bottle. I started chatting her up and invited her back to the table. About an HR later we order food from the kitchen and then head back to the house. Getting back to the house was a bit interesting because out of the eight of us who went to the and brought back company three of them were not allowed to stay due to not having proper ID. I really liked this about the Airbnb because it brought a sense of security to the house knowing that everyone is a bit vetted before entering. Either way my guest was able to go in and I had the greatest time. She spoke fairly good English (not great) that I found out that she has a girlfriend. Whether true or not I decided to remind her what she's missing by playing with the other team. Woke up the next morning and same routine commenced. Grabbed her a cab and ate breakfast.

Day 3 Walled City.

After breakfast and talking about the previous evenings escapades we decided to take in the walled city for lunch and sightseeing. We decided to eat at the Mirador. The restaurant food choices were excellent and there was a soccer game playing which is my perfect combo. Good food, drinks, and soccer. After our group paid for our bill the majority wanted to walk around but I was tired and needed to reenergize from the past couple days. This thought didn't last long. As me and one other guy got into a taxi back to the Airbnb I called our tour guide and asked for connects on massage chicas. We hurriedly made an appointment for within the hour at our Airbnb. After arriving back to the house within 45 min the massage therapist arrive. Unfortunately for my partner his therapist couldn't get in due to ID issues. I took mine upstairs and once again it was another session shared. The massage was crap but we all know why you book a massage therapist in CTG. After about 1. 5 HR we showered up and she left.

Day 3 Night.

We decided to go to Marina de Palaiso (Strip Club).

After having dinner at Cuzco de Cartagena we decide to go back home and get ready for the strip club. Words can't express how overwhelming this club was. I'd never been to a club in Colombia so I tried to act like a regular. To begin as we entered they directed us to our table and about 35 chicas stood by to greet each of us personally. After the procession line was through which seemed like it wouldn't end they took our drink orders and commenced to our shots for all of us. I knew better as this was a ploy to get us drunk and then for us to make stupid decisions with cash but I quickly asked for bottles of water for everyone. After about 10 min three chicas with two piece bathing suits on come by and commence to give us dances that end with them wearing nothing. There was no limit to the grinding. We then took in the dance show happening in the middle of the club on the platform over the pool. Two girls begin to dance on one another which ends with one of them grabbing a strap on and jamming it repeatedly in the other girl who seemed to be enjoying all of it. I then grab a beautiful girl that I eyed since walking in and take her to one of the rooms in the back and shared time with. We get done, shower, and head back to the party in the club. The rest of my guys were either getting ready to go in the back or just getting back with me. All in all it was a great night.

Day 4 Boat Party "Cholon".

I instructed my Colombian girl to meet me at the Dock by 10:30 and surprisingly she was on time with another friend which was helpful because one of our guys was without a girl. We reserved a Yacht with (3) bedrooms inside. I definitely made use of it as I took my girl down there before we made it to Cholon. For a party of 20+ people you definitely didn't feel cramped on this boat. I played DJ for about 45 min and the staff had us tipsy by 12:00 pm. After arriving we had to get on a smaller boat to take us to land. The atmosphere was electric as you had plenty of partygoers out. I thought due to the cloud coverage it may damper the experience but rain never came down and the cloud coverage was better than the sun beaming down on us. A group of females from the US saw us and started to chat us up and you could tell they were ready to risk it all. They actually came to Cholon with a group of guys and wanted to leave them to hang with us. I gave them the false confidence that we would meet later but I knew that wasn't going to happen as I was with my girl for today. After the party we headed back to the boat me and my girl partied with the others and staff. After 30 min we head downstairs and commence to do what we do and sleep until we arrive back to Cartagena. After grabbing a taxi back to the Airbnb I send my girl home to get ready for dinner later that evening.

Day 4 Night.

Me and (1) other guy and his girl decide to go have dinner at Oudres which is an upscale restaurant inside the walled city. After 10 min of arriving my girl pulls up. She never ceases to amaze me with her natural beauty and skill for dressing for the moment. After dinner and dancing I pick up the tab and we head back to the Airbnb. My girl wants to meet up with friends to celebrate a birthday which may or may not be true but I know the game and knowing that we we were headed to the strip club again I didn't want to bring sand to that beach. We agree to meet later and off she went. The strip club was again amazing and I chose a different chica to head to the private room. After a shower and more drinks we went back home and like we agreed my girl arrived within (5) min of our arrival.

Day 5 Departure.

After breakfast and packing we headed to airport and wished CTG a tearful goodbye.

I must say with such a large group (10) there was no infighting and no one was penny pinching which I was afraid of. As far as my girl I've known her for about a year now and from the beginning she's never charged me a daily rate. I don't send anything monthly but we chat every now and then. I genuinely thinks she just likes the vibe I bring and the people I surround myself with. I'm sure she's charging crazy prices to someone out there but I'm not the guy. I do bless her but she plays a great job at not wanting it but wanting a relationship that I know I will never give her. Sorry but I'm not crazy to think this could ever be a real thing. I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs. All in all it was a good trip and I got a good talk on my score sheet.

[Mush Elvii]

Anyone had experience staying in Murano Elite high rise bldg in Bocagrande? (Carr 1 / Calle 11).

The air bnb owner has no issues w / having guest (which I am finding surprising given 90% of listing are explicitly no visitor).

This is for 3 night short stay in late July (first time in CTG) so getting my ducks in a row and gone through 50+ pages of RTFF!

[Elvis 2008]

In my observations, Colombia hits a bit differently though because they have the Strata classism along with Costeos Vs Paisa and it get even more confusing as when I was at San Andres a few people there said there were San Andren not Colombian or Costeos. I believe both countries have way bigger problems to worry about than skin color so its not so (in your face), they can lose power, water, get robbed, or trafficked at any moment. From the outside looking in I see they are more Nationalist first, then Region, then Strata but that's my observation from the outside and I dare not ask any of my chicas anything about it as I don't want to bring the BS from America into another country.

I am sure if you asked your women most would deny racism exists. And you do not see women in Colombia saying "no African American men" like some escorts in the USA do. I am just trying to get a handle on the culture.

One of the things that surprised me is how closed off the elites have their daughters to sexuality. I saw this movie why tu mama tambien from Mexico and it was arguably the most sexually open main stream movie I ever saw. I have learned that teenagers even boys who are uncomfortable with sex close their eyes when a movie involve graphic sex, but I thought Colombia would be way more open than the USA. Hardly. There are ALL virgins in my gal's daughter's class. With USA girls 15 going on 16 boys tend to dominate conversations but not in Colombia. In fact, my gal's 18 year old niece's face turns beet red when you mention the name of a guy she likes. I would expect that with a 12 year old in the USA.

Gal's daughter and I were watching the movie Gotcha, an underrated 80's comedy, but there is one sex scene in the movie. Now that I know better, I was like, "Close your eyes" when the sex scene came on and forwarded through it. She loved the movie but she might not have if she had seen the sex scene.

Thing is on the racist front, my gal tenses up when we see poor black folks in Colombia more so than those with less skin pigmentation, but I saw no tension when she was around American blacks when we stayed in hotels. I just wanted to be prepared if that issue ever comes up. I guess for now though I will just keep avoiding it. LOL.

[SexeMassage]

I've been to Cartagena several times and it's really easy to find girls for sex. There are various bars with prostitutes. There are also girls on the beach who offer massages, and for a little money, they'll agree to have sex. I've even had free sex with women (not prostitutes) I've met in bars. It's really very easy in Cartagena.

[World Wide Wes]

Thanks for the advice. I've been to CTG several times but never during a US Holiday weekend so wanted to gauge the temperature prior to arriving. My group and I like to stay under the radar so the attention seeking females is a hard pass. We're definitely going to enjoy ourselves this weekend but the extra drama is not allowed. Happy Mongering to all.

My reply is soley based on the locations you listed "Clubs / Beach / cholon".

You're going on a US holiday weekend so you can already guess who to expect at Clubs / Beach / cholon. If you like your eye candy loud, ratchet, build like a NFL Defensive Lineman or a French Door refrigerator then you will feel right at home. There have been lots of videos circulating in the whatsapp groups about the new wave of female travel groups going to Cartagena and the majority of them have the appearance of Sexy Red, Glorilla, Ice Spice, Sukihana, etc constantly looking for the first opportunity to twerk whereever they are. If that's your "eye candy" then you will feel right at home in the clubs, beach, cholon.

If you're looking for something else, avoid those places during a US holiday weekend. The best time to go is actually right before the holiday weekend because you will be ahead of the incoming uptick of frowned upon behavior, and if arriving directly after a US holiday weekend locals will automatically have a bias towards the newcomer based on their interaction with the previous gringos.

I made the mistake of being there Labor Day weekend. Never again!

[Nypher]

According to NCBI, Black communities in many states have a higher rate of child sexual abuse than other non-White communities. For example, in Washington DC, the disparity ratio (DR) for child sexual abuse is 12.77, while the DR for child physical abuse is 15.10.

A study found that 34.1% of Black women in Boston and 65% of Black women in Chicago experienced childhood sexual abuse (CSA). CSA is defined as sexual coercion, rape, or incest before the age of 18. The study found that the nature, severity, and aftermath of CSA are similar across races, but there are some differences, such as the age of onset.

Some research suggests that racism and stereotyping in mainstream society can cause Black communities to fear that reporting child sexual abuse will damage the community's reputation and stigmatize its members. A 2018 article by Bernard and Harris also found that serious case reviews involving Black children often lack professional curiosity about the children's lives, including their cultural, religious, and socio-economic contexts.

Some say that professionals need to recognize culture when creating prevention and education programs for CSA that are accessible to diverse communities. They should also review existing knowledge and present new research in a context-specific, practice-oriented, and theoretically informed way.

Com on man. Not the strawman argument to nowhere. Jajaja.

Your post is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand which was based on current events on what's happening in Cartagena and Medelin in relation to the new mayors, decrees, and whose been getting caught up with certain type of incidents within the last 12 months.

I understand if you would have pointed the finger at the local Colombian men who are involved in the same exact behavior but its not publicized for the world to see due to national pride as no one wants outsiders trashing their fellow countrymen but damn. You went completely left field with your reply.

Do I need to link the articles from Minuto30, El Colombiano, Politica Heroica, etc because it appears people like to conveniently close their eyes on what's right infront of them and open their mouths to blindly defend the same shit they didn't see.

Seriously jajaja.