Cartagena Reports

[World Wide Wes]

The group I went with was three collective groups put together. The Airbnb we stayed in was in Manga. It was 10 rooms 11 bathrooms pool and 24 HR security. I paid $390. The lead guy who organized the trip has been to CTG more times than I can count and setup the shuttle with someone he met on a previous trip and has brought business to them. Every time we utilized it which was to the beach, dinner, and clubs we paid $75 round trip. When split between all of us we never paid more than $6-10 depending on how many people went. The boat to Cholon was $225 per person. We each brought two bottles of alcohol. For groceries on the first day which lasted us about three days the 7 at the time paid $26 per. For girls I try and deal in local currency. For my Colombian girl I didn't bless her until the last day and I gave her 1 million pesos which is about $400. This is after multiple sessions, a boat trip, and dinner / club. I know I'm renting her time so I didn't feel like this was too much. Others might feel different. The massage was 360,000 pesos for 1 HR which is about $90. We went for 1.5 hrs and I gave her 400,000 pesos which is about $100. For every other girl I blessed them with 250,000 pesos which is about $70. This is for all night sessions and MSOG.

Great report on the things you did, but do you have any prices to go along with any of it? My cousin is celebrating his birthday there next month with a big group and I would like to let him know what kind of prices to expect. Shuttle van, boat, girls, etc. How did you arrange the van? They are all staying in a 6 BR airbnb for 5 days. I am only staying 2 days before moving on to other cities so I will just grab a hotel or something.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs. All in all it was a good trip and I got a good talk on my score sheet.

Great report on the things you did, but do you have any prices to go along with any of it? My cousin is celebrating his birthday there next month with a big group and I would like to let him know what kind of prices to expect. Shuttle van, boat, girls, etc. How did you arrange the van? They are all staying in a 6 BR airbnb for 5 days. I am only staying 2 days before moving on to other cities so I will just grab a hotel or something.

[World Wide Wes]

Arrival:

This trip was from Wednesday to Sunday. This was my 5th to CTG and it never disappoints. Coming in Wednesday the Customs line was completely empty. Apparently several flights had already cleared and there were several planes that were diverted due to weather. Anyhow that allowed me quick entry / exit within 5 min. Getting a taxi was a bit harder as the fake Uber drivers were a little bit overly aggressive but I try to remain calm and friendly even in the face of rudeness because being a foreigner there are certain battles I don't want to partake in. Get to the Airbnb, drop bags and head over to this restaurant outside the wall as some of my early arrival amigos were already seated and waiting. After we eat we go do groceries for the Airbnb and then start pregaming for the night.

1st night Andronega:

Layout of club is decent. There really isn't a dance floor unless you stay in the front club but all the action is in the back club. All I can say is we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Grabbed several numbers for day game action the next day but I actually came to the club with my current Colombian girl. There is a restaurant inside that serves up some great take home wings. You'll thank me later. After the club we head back to the house and I reintroduce myself to my girl.

Day 2 Day action:

Woke up to our maid cooking breakfast for an army. After we ate we all decided we would head to the beach once the final guys arrive. In all there was a total of 10 of us. Once they arrived our lead for the trip organized a Shuttle Van to head to the beach. We literally had a Shuttle Van everywhere we went which helped cause it held 20 people easy. After grabbing a section we ordered drinks and food and took in the sights. For a lot of the guys it was their first time so they were amazed. After grabbing several more numbers we head back to the Airbnb and I start making some calls to get one to come by before we head out for the night. I had this big booty, slim waist, the cup stallion swing by and I definitely had fun. My cousin decided that he wants to take a trip and I ask her if she's ok with that and she states "of course" with a smirk. Once they get done I make her jump in the shower and I take her for one more spin. After another release I grab her a taxi and jump in the shower to get ready for the evening.

Day 2 Night Andronega:

This time I went to the club without my girl so I was able to move around freely. I could have done the same thing when my girl is around but I don't feel the need to disrespect her in her face. For those who know the game you know what I'm trying to say. Per usual it was jam packed and I was a kid in a candy store. After getting bottle service we sat back and started chatting up the group of girls in the table next to us. There was one chica I spoke to who had fowl breath and I had to ask my friend to talk to her to make sure I wasn't making a mistake of where the smell was coming from. Once he confirmed I politely removed myself from her and went to the restroom. At this time I spotted a girl walking out with exact shape I was looking for. She was around 5'9 and shaped like a coke bottle. I started chatting her up and invited her back to the table. About an HR later we order food from the kitchen and then head back to the house. Getting back to the house was a bit interesting because out of the eight of us who went to the and brought back company three of them were not allowed to stay due to not having proper ID. I really liked this about the Airbnb because it brought a sense of security to the house knowing that everyone is a bit vetted before entering. Either way my guest was able to go in and I had the greatest time. She spoke fairly good English (not great) that I found out that she has a girlfriend. Whether true or not I decided to remind her what she's missing by playing with the other team. Woke up the next morning and same routine commenced. Grabbed her a cab and ate breakfast.

Day 3 Walled City.

After breakfast and talking about the previous evenings escapades we decided to take in the walled city for lunch and sightseeing. We decided to eat at the Mirador. The restaurant food choices were excellent and there was a soccer game playing which is my perfect combo. Good food, drinks, and soccer. After our group paid for our bill the majority wanted to walk around but I was tired and needed to reenergize from the past couple days. This thought didn't last long. As me and one other guy got into a taxi back to the Airbnb I called our tour guide and asked for connects on massage chicas. We hurriedly made an appointment for within the hour at our Airbnb. After arriving back to the house within 45 min the massage therapist arrive. Unfortunately for my partner his therapist couldn't get in due to ID issues. I took mine upstairs and once again it was another session shared. The massage was crap but we all know why you book a massage therapist in CTG. After about 1. 5 HR we showered up and she left.

Day 3 Night.

We decided to go to Marina de Palaiso (Strip Club).

After having dinner at Cuzco de Cartagena we decide to go back home and get ready for the strip club. Words can't express how overwhelming this club was. I'd never been to a club in Colombia so I tried to act like a regular. To begin as we entered they directed us to our table and about 35 chicas stood by to greet each of us personally. After the procession line was through which seemed like it wouldn't end they took our drink orders and commenced to our shots for all of us. I knew better as this was a ploy to get us drunk and then for us to make stupid decisions with cash but I quickly asked for bottles of water for everyone. After about 10 min three chicas with two piece bathing suits on come by and commence to give us dances that end with them wearing nothing. There was no limit to the grinding. We then took in the dance show happening in the middle of the club on the platform over the pool. Two girls begin to dance on one another which ends with one of them grabbing a strap on and jamming it repeatedly in the other girl who seemed to be enjoying all of it. I then grab a beautiful girl that I eyed since walking in and take her to one of the rooms in the back and shared time with. We get done, shower, and head back to the party in the club. The rest of my guys were either getting ready to go in the back or just getting back with me. All in all it was a great night.

Day 4 Boat Party "Cholon".

I instructed my Colombian girl to meet me at the Dock by 10:30 and surprisingly she was on time with another friend which was helpful because one of our guys was without a girl. We reserved a Yacht with (3) bedrooms inside. I definitely made use of it as I took my girl down there before we made it to Cholon. For a party of 20+ people you definitely didn't feel cramped on this boat. I played DJ for about 45 min and the staff had us tipsy by 12:00 pm. After arriving we had to get on a smaller boat to take us to land. The atmosphere was electric as you had plenty of partygoers out. I thought due to the cloud coverage it may damper the experience but rain never came down and the cloud coverage was better than the sun beaming down on us. A group of females from the US saw us and started to chat us up and you could tell they were ready to risk it all. They actually came to Cholon with a group of guys and wanted to leave them to hang with us. I gave them the false confidence that we would meet later but I knew that wasn't going to happen as I was with my girl for today. After the party we headed back to the boat me and my girl partied with the others and staff. After 30 min we head downstairs and commence to do what we do and sleep until we arrive back to Cartagena. After grabbing a taxi back to the Airbnb I send my girl home to get ready for dinner later that evening.

Day 4 Night.

Me and (1) other guy and his girl decide to go have dinner at Oudres which is an upscale restaurant inside the walled city. After 10 min of arriving my girl pulls up. She never ceases to amaze me with her natural beauty and skill for dressing for the moment. After dinner and dancing I pick up the tab and we head back to the Airbnb. My girl wants to meet up with friends to celebrate a birthday which may or may not be true but I know the game and knowing that we we were headed to the strip club again I didn't want to bring sand to that beach. We agree to meet later and off she went. The strip club was again amazing and I chose a different chica to head to the private room. After a shower and more drinks we went back home and like we agreed my girl arrived within (5) min of our arrival.

Day 5 Departure.

After breakfast and packing we headed to airport and wished CTG a tearful goodbye.

I must say with such a large group (10) there was no infighting and no one was penny pinching which I was afraid of. As far as my girl I've known her for about a year now and from the beginning she's never charged me a daily rate. I don't send anything monthly but we chat every now and then. I genuinely thinks she just likes the vibe I bring and the people I surround myself with. I'm sure she's charging crazy prices to someone out there but I'm not the guy. I do bless her but she plays a great job at not wanting it but wanting a relationship that I know I will never give her. Sorry but I'm not crazy to think this could ever be a real thing. I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs. All in all it was a good trip and I got a good talk on my score sheet.

[Mush Elvii]

Anyone had experience staying in Murano Elite high rise bldg in Bocagrande? (Carr 1 / Calle 11).

The air bnb owner has no issues w / having guest (which I am finding surprising given 90% of listing are explicitly no visitor).

This is for 3 night short stay in late July (first time in CTG) so getting my ducks in a row and gone through 50+ pages of RTFF!

[Elvis 2008]

In my observations, Colombia hits a bit differently though because they have the Strata classism along with Costeos Vs Paisa and it get even more confusing as when I was at San Andres a few people there said there were San Andren not Colombian or Costeos. I believe both countries have way bigger problems to worry about than skin color so its not so (in your face), they can lose power, water, get robbed, or trafficked at any moment. From the outside looking in I see they are more Nationalist first, then Region, then Strata but that's my observation from the outside and I dare not ask any of my chicas anything about it as I don't want to bring the BS from America into another country.

I am sure if you asked your women most would deny racism exists. And you do not see women in Colombia saying "no African American men" like some escorts in the USA do. I am just trying to get a handle on the culture.

One of the things that surprised me is how closed off the elites have their daughters to sexuality. I saw this movie why tu mama tambien from Mexico and it was arguably the most sexually open main stream movie I ever saw. I have learned that teenagers even boys who are uncomfortable with sex close their eyes when a movie involve graphic sex, but I thought Colombia would be way more open than the USA. Hardly. There are ALL virgins in my gal's daughter's class. With USA girls 15 going on 16 boys tend to dominate conversations but not in Colombia. In fact, my gal's 18 year old niece's face turns beet red when you mention the name of a guy she likes. I would expect that with a 12 year old in the USA.

Gal's daughter and I were watching the movie Gotcha, an underrated 80's comedy, but there is one sex scene in the movie. Now that I know better, I was like, "Close your eyes" when the sex scene came on and forwarded through it. She loved the movie but she might not have if she had seen the sex scene.

Thing is on the racist front, my gal tenses up when we see poor black folks in Colombia more so than those with less skin pigmentation, but I saw no tension when she was around American blacks when we stayed in hotels. I just wanted to be prepared if that issue ever comes up. I guess for now though I will just keep avoiding it. LOL.

[SexeMassage]

I've been to Cartagena several times and it's really easy to find girls for sex. There are various bars with prostitutes. There are also girls on the beach who offer massages, and for a little money, they'll agree to have sex. I've even had free sex with women (not prostitutes) I've met in bars. It's really very easy in Cartagena.

[World Wide Wes]

Thanks for the advice. I've been to CTG several times but never during a US Holiday weekend so wanted to gauge the temperature prior to arriving. My group and I like to stay under the radar so the attention seeking females is a hard pass. We're definitely going to enjoy ourselves this weekend but the extra drama is not allowed. Happy Mongering to all.

My reply is soley based on the locations you listed "Clubs / Beach / cholon".

You're going on a US holiday weekend so you can already guess who to expect at Clubs / Beach / cholon. If you like your eye candy loud, ratchet, build like a NFL Defensive Lineman or a French Door refrigerator then you will feel right at home. There have been lots of videos circulating in the whatsapp groups about the new wave of female travel groups going to Cartagena and the majority of them have the appearance of Sexy Red, Glorilla, Ice Spice, Sukihana, etc constantly looking for the first opportunity to twerk whereever they are. If that's your "eye candy" then you will feel right at home in the clubs, beach, cholon.

If you're looking for something else, avoid those places during a US holiday weekend. The best time to go is actually right before the holiday weekend because you will be ahead of the incoming uptick of frowned upon behavior, and if arriving directly after a US holiday weekend locals will automatically have a bias towards the newcomer based on their interaction with the previous gringos.

I made the mistake of being there Labor Day weekend. Never again!

[Nypher]

According to NCBI, Black communities in many states have a higher rate of child sexual abuse than other non-White communities. For example, in Washington DC, the disparity ratio (DR) for child sexual abuse is 12.77, while the DR for child physical abuse is 15.10.

A study found that 34.1% of Black women in Boston and 65% of Black women in Chicago experienced childhood sexual abuse (CSA). CSA is defined as sexual coercion, rape, or incest before the age of 18. The study found that the nature, severity, and aftermath of CSA are similar across races, but there are some differences, such as the age of onset.

Some research suggests that racism and stereotyping in mainstream society can cause Black communities to fear that reporting child sexual abuse will damage the community's reputation and stigmatize its members. A 2018 article by Bernard and Harris also found that serious case reviews involving Black children often lack professional curiosity about the children's lives, including their cultural, religious, and socio-economic contexts.

Some say that professionals need to recognize culture when creating prevention and education programs for CSA that are accessible to diverse communities. They should also review existing knowledge and present new research in a context-specific, practice-oriented, and theoretically informed way.

Com on man. Not the strawman argument to nowhere. Jajaja.

Your post is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand which was based on current events on what's happening in Cartagena and Medelin in relation to the new mayors, decrees, and whose been getting caught up with certain type of incidents within the last 12 months.

I understand if you would have pointed the finger at the local Colombian men who are involved in the same exact behavior but its not publicized for the world to see due to national pride as no one wants outsiders trashing their fellow countrymen but damn. You went completely left field with your reply.

Do I need to link the articles from Minuto30, El Colombiano, Politica Heroica, etc because it appears people like to conveniently close their eyes on what's right infront of them and open their mouths to blindly defend the same shit they didn't see.

Seriously jajaja.

[Nypher]

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I do not have a dog in that fight, but if I cannot get young girls to trash talk me, then I would assume the language of racism would be shunned for sure, but the actions are more important than the words right? So, Nypher, let me ask you this. I don't buy that no racism line in Venezuela and Colombia, do you?

In my observations, Colombia hits a bit differently though because they have the Strata classism along with Costeños Vs Paisa and it get even more confusing as when I was at San Andres a few people there said there were San Andren not Colombian or Costeños. I believe both countries have way bigger problems to worry about than skin color so its not so (in your face), they can lose power, water, get robbed, or trafficked at any moment. From the outside looking in I see they are more Nationalist first, then Region, then Strata but that's my observation from the outside and I dare not ask any of my chicas anything about it as I don't want to bring the BS from America into another country.

[Nypher]

Many thanks for the continued info everyone contributes. I'll be in town next week and with everything going on in CTG (I. E Walled City barricades) I was wondering what you all think next week will look like as far as clubs / beach / cholon. Will the holiday weekend potentially bring an influx of eye candy?

My reply is soley based on the locations you listed "Clubs / Beach / cholon".

You're going on a US holiday weekend so you can already guess who to expect at Clubs / Beach / cholon. If you like your eye candy loud, ratchet, build like a NFL Defensive Lineman or a French Door refrigerator then you will feel right at home. There have been lots of videos circulating in the whatsapp groups about the new wave of female travel groups going to Cartagena and the majority of them have the appearance of Sexy Red, Glorilla, Ice Spice, Sukihana, etc constantly looking for the first opportunity to twerk whereever they are. If that's your "eye candy" then you will feel right at home in the clubs, beach, cholon.

If you're looking for something else, avoid those places during a US holiday weekend. The best time to go is actually right before the holiday weekend because you will be ahead of the incoming uptick of frowned upon behavior, and if arriving directly after a US holiday weekend locals will automatically have a bias towards the newcomer based on their interaction with the previous gringos.

I made the mistake of being there Labor Day weekend. Never again!

[World Wide Wes]

Many thanks for the continued info everyone contributes. I'll be in town next week and with everything going on in CTG (I. E Walled City barricades) I was wondering what you all think next week will look like as far as clubs / beach / cholon. Will the holiday weekend potentially bring an influx of eye candy?

[BayBoy]

ID like to throw my 2 cents on the subject of Colombia racism. According to Google Search, 50% percent of the population is Mestizo, 25% is white (of Spanish descent), 10% is black, the rest is of various ethnic and mixed race groups.

I'm a white Californian- monger. Been coming to Colombia many years, been to Cartegena, Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Pereira etc.

What I see in the upscale areas like the north end of Cali, and especially nice modern shopping malls, that there are a few blacks, some brown skin people, but overwhelmingly white people. Does that mean that Colombians are racist, I don't know but there is income disparity. Its quite obvious.

[Elvis 2008]

My ex-girlfriend from Peru who now lives in Australia told me there is no racism in Peru. Unlike the girls you asked, she is Black. On the other hand, anybody in Brazil will tell you how much racism there is there. Yes everyone has an assortment of family members and even friends, but in the corporate or getting a job world things are much different. Before, if you were not in sports or playing someone's maid then you definitely would not be on TV if you were Black. Things have changed just a little bit these days though not much.

I agree with all that. I just always thought of Colombia as in the same racist category as Brazil and Argentina with Argentina probably being the worst. I suspect that the Colombians just hide it better.

[Mr Enternational]

My Venezuelan ex-fiance tried to tell me that there was no racism in Venezuela. I think the people are more brown there than Colombia, and she said everyone has a distant black relative within them and therefore racism does not exist there. Thing is when I went through her photos there were no black friends, classmates, or neighbors. I have not talked to my current gal about race but I suspect she would say the same thing and once more there are no black friends, neighbors, classmates, or even coworkers in her photo albums either.

I don't buy that no racism line in Venezuela and Colombia, do you?

My ex-girlfriend from Peru who now lives in Australia told me there is no racism in Peru. Unlike the girls you asked, she is Black. On the other hand, anybody in Brazil will tell you how much racism there is there. Yes everyone has an assortment of family members and even friends, but in the corporate or getting a job world things are much different. Before, if you were not in sports or playing someone's maid then you definitely would not be on TV if you were Black. Things have changed just a little bit these days though not much.

[FFlintstone69]

The guys in the DR doing under age girls are white older Europeans. Seems you are threatens by black American because most of what are saying is BS. Those who are choosing the Columbia over the DR is because there are more attractive women and better infrastucture. Black men like grown sexy women not under age girls like the Europeans.

According to NCBI, Black communities in many states have a higher rate of child sexual abuse than other non-White communities. For example, in Washington DC, the disparity ratio (DR) for child sexual abuse is 12.77, while the DR for child physical abuse is 15.10.

A study found that 34.1% of Black women in Boston and 65% of Black women in Chicago experienced childhood sexual abuse (CSA). CSA is defined as sexual coercion, rape, or incest before the age of 18. The study found that the nature, severity, and aftermath of CSA are similar across races, but there are some differences, such as the age of onset.

Some research suggests that racism and stereotyping in mainstream society can cause Black communities to fear that reporting child sexual abuse will damage the community's reputation and stigmatize its members. A 2018 article by Bernard and Harris also found that serious case reviews involving Black children often lack professional curiosity about the children's lives, including their cultural, religious, and socio-economic contexts.

Some say that professionals need to recognize culture when creating prevention and education programs for CSA that are accessible to diverse communities. They should also review existing knowledge and present new research in a context-specific, practice-oriented, and theoretically informed way.