Sao Paulo Hotels and List

[XXL]

This is crazy, now it seems this hotel has at least 3 different names:

Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel
Wyndham Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza
Hotel Bourbon Ibirapuera Suite 5 Estrelas Moema

Or could it be that Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel is no longer available on Agoda nor Trip dot com?

https://www.hotels-saopaulo.com/en/property/bourbonibirapuera-convention.html

This link leads to Wyndham Convention Plaza. I think Bourbon Ibirapuera Suite is the odd man out among the three and that "Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel" changed its name to "Wyndham Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza".

Answering my own question with a screenshot from a Google Search:

Meanwhile I've been going through reviews on the internet. Many guests complain about the hotel being noisy, not so much because of the nearby airport, as because of the noise coming from rooms next door and from the corridors.

[XXL]

I have stayed at the Convention center hotel not the apartment studio one. I read somewhere bunch of complaints about studio owner lack of responsiveness.

The hotel is traditional busy active convention hotel with families. The windows are doubled paned and there is a heavy curtain to reduce the airplane noise. Those small fast jets are screamers at 0600 am! The hotel I on the direct flight path of CGH airport.

Its a few minutes walk to Prime clinica Bradesco bank, Moah, miruna.

Since that time I moved on to value priced Airbnb studio condo apartments in moema with laundry, privacyno convention traffic, 24 hour reception and double paned glass for quiet night sleep.

This is crazy, now it seems this hotel has at least 3 different names:

Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel
Wyndham Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza
Hotel Bourbon Ibirapuera Suite 5 Estrelas Moema

Or could it be that Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel is no longer available on Agoda nor Trip dot com?

https://www.hotels-saopaulo.com/en/property/bourbonibirapuera-convention.html

This link leads to Wyndham Convention Plaza. I think Bourbon Ibirapuera Suite is the odd man out among the three and that "Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel" changed its name to "Wyndham Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza".

[Tochka]

Is this the hotel listed in Agoda as "Apart-hotel Bourbon Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel"? There's another one listed as "Hotel Bourbon Ibirapuera Suite 5 estrelas Moema". Both appear as being 3.4 km from the city center. I guess it could be the same hotel with two different sections. The former has lower rates than the latter.

I have stayed at the Convention center hotel not the apartment studio one. I read somewhere bunch of complaints about studio owner lack of responsiveness.

The hotel is traditional busy active convention hotel with families. The windows are doubled paned and there is a heavy curtain to reduce the airplane noise. Those small fast jets are screamers at 0600 am! The hotel I on the direct flight path of CGH airport.

Its a few minutes walk to Prime clinica Bradesco bank, Moah, miruna.

Since that time I moved on to value priced Airbnb studio condo apartments in moema with laundry, privacyno convention traffic, 24 hour reception and double paned glass for quiet night sleep.

[XXL]

Stayed at Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel *in Moema. In my opinion, THE most important consideration when staying in Moema is soundproof rooms. I can confirm the rooms are soundproof. I stayed at other places in Moema including Airbnb, suites, and apartments, and regret not checking first about the soundproof room. Waking up at 0600 am sharp because the small jets taking off from CGH suck.

Bourbon is a damn busy business hotel with meetings and families. My criteria were peaceful sleep over taking chicas and garotas back to the room. I did clinicas. The superior room is as good as the Executive room. I never woke up in time for breakfast nor care about it. The front desk is competent, busy people, and the day shift: and night shift need retraining.

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Is this the hotel listed in Agoda as "Apart-hotel Bourbon Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel"? There's another one listed as "Hotel Bourbon Ibirapuera Suite 5 estrelas Moema". Both appear as being 3.4 km from the city center. I guess it could be the same hotel with two different sections. The former has lower rates than the latter.

[Tochka]

A few things wished I had known earlier. I prefer a neighborhood like Moema. It's walkable to clinics without having so many tourists and shops. The airport noise is a real deal in Moema. Finally found a studio condo building with double-paned glass, and modern appliances, 4 minute's walk from Prime, Miruna, Abbobhrs, and 7 min Uber to CGH. It is called Allure Moema. Av. Dos Imars, 508 - Moema, So Paulo.

I paid are $300 reais per night. Excellent value and the plane noise was dramatically reduced. I slept well after a night of scandallo partying.

In Moeman tried different places around Moema Tsue Flats, Hotel Bourbon, Charlie Stay, Ibis, Club Suites, Cozzy Suites, Intercity, Comfort.

So far in Moema the reduced airplane noise, soundproof rooms were Bourbon, Condo Allure Moema.

And Cozzy Suites closer to Tangara It's outside of the CGH flight path.

[NutFast]

I thought I had the Map inserted here.

Oh well here it is:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...750000006&z=11

Possible to post the link again? This one is not working for me. Ty in advance.

[Nounce]

Planning on booking the Intercontinental next week. Any issues bring in visitors.

I appreciate the help.

Concarne.

You asked in the right place but if you are going to Sao Paulo I think the answer you are looking for in in Sao Paulo thread where there were recent discussion about it.

[LAHenry]

I also stayed again in Mercure Times Square. I have never had problems with visitors there.

I would not personally recommend this hotel. (1) I did wake up once due to plane noise (2) Elevators require key cards (3) There is a security guard during the day time and maybe at night (don't remember the night part). (4) Drive to Scandello is heavy traffic and takes 30+ minutes (5) Ubers are hard to get as many drivers keep cancel (I used uber x primarily, and maybe that is a general thing in SP). (5) They don't have any cups in the room if you need a drink of water you go to the lobby. There are pluses too. Its a super budget hotel, with a decent staff, that is close to daytime clinicas (and high-end ones, I think I have been to all now. KKK, which I finally understand means LOL).

I think when the fellow ISG'ers have a different definition of girl friendly. To me, GF means the girl can walk straight up to the room w / o a elevator key card, or reception ID check, or reception calling you for visitor, or security guard gatekeeper. Thats not the case here for this hotel! I am coming to think there are no hotels like this in SP. If you wish to avoid all the above, you need to book a lush motel and meet the girl there, which is not convenient.

[LAHenry]

I am sitting in Scandello on a Thursday night writing this report / inquiry. The ride from Moema (Mercure Times Square, my hotel) to Scandello is horrible. It takes 30+ minutes due to heavy traffic. I have gone every day this week, and the traffic is always there. Plus the Mercure requires cards for their elevators, which sucks as it make it weird to bring girls to your room with a small lobby. The funny thing is when I booked the receptionist on the phone clarified there was no card entry. This is obviously not true! Anyways, hoping for some personal suggestions from fellow ISG'ers on hotels (no airbnb please) that are a short cab ride away and DON'T require card entry to hotel nor elevator.

[Concarne]

Planning on booking the Intercontinental next week. Any issues bring in visitors.

I appreciate the help.

Concarne.

[WonderWhy]

They run quite a few apartments in SP. I stayed in one recently in Moema, right near the Bourbon hotel. They are a new breed of rental agency where everything is automated. It is not a hotel, not even close to it, its more like an airbnb, no room service, no daily house keeping. Security was tight, but all virtual, there is no doorman. You ring a doorbell and someone probably in a call center somewhere lets you in if you're name and picture match what they have on file. They explicity say only registered visitors are allowed. I didn't try to bring anyone in, but I am pretty sure they are NOT girl friendly. The place itself was actually pretty nice, but I think overpriced. Hope that helps.

Thanks! Sounds like not the place for me as I enjoy having friends come over for the night.

[Kazeu]

I have looked at these with interest for my next visit. Has anyone used them and can report on girl friendly or not? I stayed at an airbnb in Pinheiros last trip and had to sneak the girls in.

They run quite a few apartments in SP. I stayed in one recently in Moema, right near the Bourbon hotel. They are a new breed of rental agency where everything is automated. It is not a hotel, not even close to it, its more like an airbnb, no room service, no daily house keeping. Security was tight, but all virtual, there is no doorman. You ring a doorbell and someone probably in a call center somewhere lets you in if you're name and picture match what they have on file. They explicity say only registered visitors are allowed. I didn't try to bring anyone in, but I am pretty sure they are NOT girl friendly. The place itself was actually pretty nice, but I think overpriced. Hope that helps.

[Tochka]

For me, Bourbon is the perfect place in Sao Paolo. Reasonably priced, Big and busy with lots of action, and you can't get any closer to the clinicas in moema than that, and the mall across the street, great for the food court and shopping, and Scandallo is only a 15-20 minute uber ride away.

Bourbon is convenient with soundproof windows with heavy curtains to reduce airplane noise. Wish there was a compiled list of Moema places confirmed as garota-friendly and soundproof windows.

It's a great walking neighborhood or a short Uber ride to Clinica and Scandallo.

I like places in Moema, one bedroom, with a kitchen, coffee maker, guest bathroom for the garotas, and soundproof windows.

[MaxLee88]

Stayed at Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel *in Moema. In my opinion, THE most important consideration when staying in Moema is soundproof rooms. I can confirm the rooms are soundproof. I stayed at other places in Moema including Airbnb, suites, and apartments, and regret not checking first about the soundproof room. Waking up at 0600 am sharp because the small jets taking off from CGH suck.

Bourbon is a damn busy business hotel with meetings and families. My criteria were peaceful sleep over taking chicas and garotas back to the room. I did clinicas. The superior room is as good as the Executive room. I never woke up in time for breakfast nor care about it. The front desk is competent, busy people, and the day shift: and night shift need retraining.

After a serious night of drunken partying at Scandallo at 0400 am I left my iPhone in the Uber. Realized it when got to the hotel room. To recharge iPhone. Frak, many of the apps including Uber require 2 FA by mobile phone number. I had no alternate way to sign in from my laptop due to 2 FA. That sucked. Finally found one of my old email accounts with no 2 FA to sign in, emailed, and alerted Uber.

Very good customer service response by Uber. The driver woke up at 0500 am to bring back my iPhone. The stupid night shift at the hotel told him I wasn't there in the hotel, they did not know the name, blah, blah. The driver went back home with my phone. I nearly blew a gasket after finding out he returned to the hotel at 0500 an and the night shift turned him away. Over the next 24 hours, frantic trying to reconnect with the Uber, driver.

After a while, I said frak it walked over to Prime on Sunday afternoon to console myself with a Duplo with Karen and Camilla. Damn, Camilla is great. A deepthroat sloppy BBBJ skills. I used cash as always. Could not risk getting the occasional text of a security verification alert while using a credit card. After an exhausting session walked to the hotel. Checked with the front desk.

Lo and behold my iphone was returned. The dayshift team smartly figured if a Uber driver is returning an expensive iPhone the person will show up. I gave the front desk gal a big hug, then immediately signed into my apps to turn off the 2 FA for text or mobile and kept only sending by email.

The phone and data were backed up, of course, the 2 FA was a frustrating part about losing my iPhone and those incompetent night shift team for not accepting the damn iPhone when the driver returned the first time.

For me, Bourbon is the perfect place in Sao Paolo. Reasonably priced, Big and busy with lots of action, and you can't get any closer to the clinicas in moema than that, and the mall across the street, great for the food court and shopping, and Scandallo is only a 15-20 minute uber ride away.

[Tochka]

Stayed at Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel *in Moema. In my opinion, THE most important consideration when staying in Moema is soundproof rooms. I can confirm the rooms are soundproof. I stayed at other places in Moema including Airbnb, suites, and apartments, and regret not checking first about the soundproof room. Waking up at 0600 am sharp because the small jets taking off from CGH suck.

Bourbon is a damn busy business hotel with meetings and families. My criteria were peaceful sleep over taking chicas and garotas back to the room. I did clinicas. The superior room is as good as the Executive room. I never woke up in time for breakfast nor care about it. The front desk is competent, busy people, and the day shift: and night shift need retraining.

After a serious night of drunken partying at Scandallo at 0400 am I left my iPhone in the Uber. Realized it when got to the hotel room. To recharge iPhone. Frak, many of the apps including Uber require 2 FA by mobile phone number. I had no alternate way to sign in from my laptop due to 2 FA. That sucked. Finally found one of my old email accounts with no 2 FA to sign in, emailed, and alerted Uber.

Very good customer service response by Uber. The driver woke up at 0500 am to bring back my iPhone. The stupid night shift at the hotel told him I wasn't there in the hotel, they did not know the name, blah, blah. The driver went back home with my phone. I nearly blew a gasket after finding out he returned to the hotel at 0500 an and the night shift turned him away. Over the next 24 hours, frantic trying to reconnect with the Uber, driver.

After a while, I said frak it walked over to Prime on Sunday afternoon to console myself with a Duplo with Karen and Camilla. Damn, Camilla is great. A deepthroat sloppy BBBJ skills. I used cash as always. Could not risk getting the occasional text of a security verification alert while using a credit card. After an exhausting session walked to the hotel. Checked with the front desk.

Lo and behold my iphone was returned. The dayshift team smartly figured if a Uber driver is returning an expensive iPhone the person will show up. I gave the front desk gal a big hug, then immediately signed into my apps to turn off the 2 FA for text or mobile and kept only sending by email.

The phone and data were backed up, of course, the 2 FA was a frustrating part about losing my iPhone and those incompetent night shift team for not accepting the damn iPhone when the driver returned the first time.