Pattaya Reports

[Turgid]

With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.

I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.

[LocalExplorer]

You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.

Actually, getting girls who have a day job is a very good tactic, I did that too, including a girl who used to work in a 7-Eleven. They're not as hardened, they don't get tons of advice from friends / coworkers about how to milk you more effectively, and they don't have the time to do the planning either. And they're more likely to go for the customer they already know rather then the highest bidder, because it's less of a hassle and guaranteed enough sleep before the day shift.

If you're looking for a girl like that, skip all the ones who are posting pictures from sex venues (beer bars, gogos, Soi 6), pics from exclusive parties and / or where they're really well dressed, with professional make-up, in an expensive apartment etc. That usually means that not only is it their full-time profession rather than a gig, but also they're very comfortable with it. Girls who work during the day will not want to meet at all hours, they'll answer messages with delay in the morning / afternoon, and will probably mention something about their shift during a meeting.

By the way, I have been chatted up by 2 or 3 female 7-Eleven employees, offering to "teach me some Thai" and the like. I'm pretty sure they would be open to quickly switch and teach me French, Greek and many other "languages"! But the fact is, they were all just too ugly for me. You can be on the lookout for hotter ones, but on TF you at least know they're willing and able.

[LocalExplorer]

OK, some more tales / advice coming to you from Pattaya. This time about customer types.

There's the East Asian customer, too often blamed for all things wrong in Pattaya. Actually, that's not my experience. I've seen dozens of them drinking by themselves or in small groups and being extremely assertive about not buying LDs. I was quietly cheerleading for them! When they get ripped off, sooner or later we all suffer! I haven't seen considerable money being thrown around, but I suspect the Koreans and Japanese have on average shorter holidays, so they might be less picky about when they really start paying, due to simple time constraints. Most of them are a bit younger than the average farang, I'd say typically aged 35-50. Very few would qualify as "hot", that's also a bit of a myth.

The Lone Russian. Russians abound, not only on Jomtien, but also around Second Road / CentralPattaya Festival. They rarely go into sex venues, but a small percentage of a large number is still noticeable. On a Friday night between 9-11 PM I found myself in multiple gogos, filled exclusively with lone Russians aged 35-40, and non of them was buying LDs. I guess it makes sense for them, it's the cheapest form of entertainment in Pattaya. However, this usually meant that despite not being Russian, I would still get classified as "another one of them", and attention from girls was limited to say the least. I understand, the girls have to profile the customers somehow. Just be aware of it when you pop your head into a gogo.

The Rich Thai. Yes, they exists, and they go to gogos. The giveaway are mixed-sex Asian group, good clothing, and most of all light skin (pointed out to me by working girls). The rich Thai are never shocked by what they see and they come to have fun. They buy LDs. On 3 different occasions they bought ME a drink, usually accompanied by a quote along the lines of "We like the way you are having fun". I dunno if those were status statements, but who cares, the important part was that I had more booze. Unfortunately, their ladies do not get carried away and do not strip.

By the way, from conversations with the ladies I've noticed skin tone is extremely important for the Thais. If you're like me and don't care about it, it might be a good tactic to actually prefer the dark-skinned girls whenever possible. They're just as nice and good looking, but they probably try harder.

I should write also about The Dumb Farang, The Old Farang, and the Thai Escort (to a farang), perhaps I missed a few more.

[LoveItHere69]

He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.

Your pix show nothing. No face. No body shape. Minimum would be a tight body fitting dress minus the face or better a bikini picture. A lot of what you post is pretty much correct when talking about hotels, transportation, ATM / money, etc. The problem is as soon as you talk about yourself it turns to 90% BS. The worst part is you actually believe all your self hype.

[Explorer8939]

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

It's pretty sad if a Thai man pays for sex in Pattaya. Most of the ladies who come to Pattaya are looking for a Thai mate, since they have kids and most can't find a boyfriend in the village where they lived. They are hoping for a Thai man who has money, so the lady can stop work bar, but it's more common for the Thai man to scrounge off her. And, since she works long hours, the Thai man's goal is for him to stop work and use her money to secure other ladies.

No matter how smart a bar girl is when it comes to manipulating Farang customers, if she falls in love with a Thai man, she loses her mind.

[FFlintstone69]

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.

[Kontiki]

You can set two sims on your iPhone, just not two physical so one normal SIM and one ESIM, had no issue setting up it during my last trip, I went for Thai ESIM and had it set online prior to arrival and, worked well, it was 25 USD via AIS for 30 days /60 gb but there are shorter plans as well.

Regarding prices, it's about equal between bars and tf cause although girls are usually cheaper in bars, you also pay for some drinks. But obviously, it varies, some guys here will quote really low numbers and although it's possible it usually requires some specific condition like low season / early during day or late at night when demand is low or a familiarity with the girl. The most common price I paid was 2000, with the cheaper girls you can end up just being disappointed with what shows up at your door, being a cheap charlie works for some but it aint for me.

[CaliGuy33]

1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.

I got 1 k regularly on Soi 6 just 8 months ago and the ladies I took were attractive. Certainly not tier 1 ladies, but I would say tier 2 ladies and attractive with nice bodies.

I can't imagine things have changed too much in 8 or so months. It was also the deepest portion of low season (Aug, Sept, Oct) so that must help with getting cheaper rates.

[Turgid]

So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.

Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.

That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

[LocalExplorer]

Buy a SIM card with unlimited data at the airport when you arrive. You can even buy one in the baggage hall, when you're waiting for your luggage. As already said by others, Wi-Fi is a hassle and the SIM cards are not expensive. And beside that you will need the app Line to stay in touch with the girls. I'm sure you've read about Line on this forum.

To each his own, a physical SIM is OK if your phone is a dual physical SIM device (iPhone is not!) or you're spending at least a few months in Thailand. I've tried both SIM and eSIM, and physical SIM is a big hassle especially when you're exhausted and jet-lagged, and then I had problems with a few of my apps that relied on the phone number. I had no access to my original phone number most of the time and people were trying to reach me pretty often. ESIM could be too expensive in the long run, but it's much more convenient, especially for vacations.

3 o'clock might even be too early, if you want to meet them in the evening. TF gets really going after 7 or 8 PM, and keeps going until the next morning around 8 or 9 AM. Although I don't know if there is a dip in between, because most of the time I'm not online between 11 PM and 7 AM.
And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).

That was not my experience. At 3 PM TF would be buzzing with life, IMHO it's a good time to start if you don't have contacts established. Perhaps a bit early if you already have contacts, and want a girl at night. Some of the freelancers who have a day job start looking for customers shortly before their shift is over. I would start getting pinged by previous "dates", and girls whom I had not answered the previous day at around 10-11 AM. Also, bored massage girls sit on TF all day. But you know, there's someone on TF at any imaginable hour.

[FFlintstone69]

He not only claims it, but he shows it too.

You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.

[LocalExplorer]

I've been quoted 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT very consistently on TF, in beer bars, massage parlours and GCs. In gogos it's 3000ST, and usually 5000 LT. BJ in a GC would be anything between 500 to 800 or 1000, plus a room fee and LD which bumps the overall prices well above 1000. I have once been offered and took LT for 2000, from a beer bar, but it wasn't worth it at all.

The quoted prices do not seem to depend on the quality of the lady, or her skills, motivation etc. I can totally picture getting very heavy discounts from 50+ year old Ladies, or 40+ in bad shape, especially Beach Road and TF. And even more so if you're a regular. I understand if someone isn't very picky about who they bang, I'm not!, but honestly I can get that back home for free (nymphos).

I would guess it's still possible to negotiate even with the more attractive ladies, but I couldn't be bothered, nor did I want the negative emotions. I'd rather focus on getting best quality in that price range, and I'd pay extra if the performance was really good. I had one hot girl who I tipped just over 500 THB ask me "why are you giving me so much money?" with a totally puzzled look on her face. She was 22, the experience was spectacular, and I really wanted her to come back, she did!

Oh, and taking girls from gogos doesn't really make much sense. You can try it a few times for the experience, but for me their allure is the entertainment skills they have, which don't matter much in a 1-on-1 situation. So it makes sense only if she's hot, very young, and very willing, and you don't feel like looking for a girl elsewhere.

[SubCmdr]

Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.

The original question was about Short Time rates. So, those are the answers that were proffered. I every economy there is the insider rate and the outsider rate. It is up to the individual to know their prices and do what they need to do if they wish to get lower rates.

I suppose that if the question was posed for long time rates the answers would be very different, Many others posting in other threads speak of those prices:

For short trips, 2000 baht a day. For extremely long trips 1000 baht a day.

Yep, 1000 b a day plus expenses is the number.

I don't do what they do so for the most part I cannot comment on the rates paid to take your prostitute on trips or to have her spend the night with you. But personally I do not feel that making the comparison between long time prices and short time prices is accurate. Precisely because of the portion I highlighted in bold. The objective measure of price is Cost Per Orgasm (CPO). The formula is that you take the total costs involved in getting your orgasms and divide that total by the number orgasms you received.

Example presented below:

A lady with me now talked about her Korean customers. Lots of drinks, not much sex, good money. Except one guy who fucked her 10 times and gave her 10,000 baht.

So, I would say this guy did pretty good for himself. 10000 THB /10 orgasms = 1000 THB / CPO.

[Mr Enternational]

Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.

He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.

[Mogwai]

Exactly how much is much less?

Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.