Seeking Arrangements

[Laj505]

Hello Guys, So its a plan to visit poland now. I have been with conversation with few polish seeking babes and weirly few of them asking 400 euro for full day and night experince. Looks very good. SO just wondering are they real prices for polish girls or scammer?

[Steve 9696]

Had a solid Seeking date yesterday with F. And it reinforced so many Seeking lessons I've learned over the years. Like the gems are the real girls with real jobs. And you can have some very long term conversations that eventually lead to pay dirt much later. Chatty girls make for an effortless date. Etc.

I looked back and now see that I started chatting with F back in September last year. We had twice planned to meetup but were thwarted. She remained responsive and bubbly every time we chatted, and just rolled with the setbacks, so I was pretty sure I had a winner.

We met up and had a nice Thai dinner. She was definitely just like her pics but a shade prettier. Beautiful eyes and a great smile despite no make up at all that I could tell. Just naturally pretty. She's quite a bit older than I usually date. She's over 30 but she could def pass for younger.

We have a lovely chat and really chat effortlessly throughout dinner. She's a real girl with a real life — has a beautiful daughter and is an admin assistant. These real girls getting a bit on the side are really the core of Seeking success. Funniest part is she is from a small town and it's where my wife grew up. I am 90% sure my wife would know her mom and dad! Bwahaha. That makes it even better!

We both have martinis and get a little looser but for some reason I'm nervous to pop the question. But when I say want to get out of here she is ready to roll. She doesn't have a car and hops right in mine to head to the hotel. I take a second to book something last minute and off we go!

At the hotel it's super easy and comfortable. Clearly she has done this before tho she has no pro vibe at all. Experienced but in a good way. When I return from peeing she is down to a see thru red bra and panties and positioned tantalizingly on the bed. She could prob lose 10 pounds and it wouldn't hurt but generally very well built with a banging set of Cee / Dee cups.

I'm not a shy one, esp if they aren't, so I crawl on the bed and start kissing her. Really nice passionate DFK both ways. Not long before I get her bra off and start sucking those perfect nipples. I am down to my skivvies now and she's stroking my cock and balls appreciatively as she coos and moans a bit as I suck on.

Getting fully naked I flip on my back to let her work her BBBJ magic and she is very good. Plenty of licking and ball sucking. She def knows her way around a dick. Not much doe eyes to start but as she grows comfortable with me there is more of that. She is a super submissive girl and takes it nice and slow when I ask her to.

After a bit I want to feel that wet pussy so I roll her over and position near her head so she can take me in her mouth. She catches on right away and continues great BJ while I finger her now very wet pussy. I glance at my watch and see we do about 20 minutes BJ / Steve2 which is super nice. I def feel the build a couple times she is so good at her craft. Really nice to do harmonica and balls from this position. And she is one of the few girls to figure this out on her own.

Time to fuck and I see she's set out some Skyns. Smart girl. I've been barebacking a huge amount lately but decide on the cover for this encounter. We start in mish which is super fine. Her pussy feels great and she loves to kiss as much as me so we make out a lot while fucking.

Swap to the Steve at the end of the bed for a while. Still remains a fave position where I can enjoy looking down at her, fuck forever, and go for a kiss when I'm feeling it. Good long time at this. Then doggie just doesn't feel nearly as good.

What about cowgirl you say? Ok that's up next. She rides well and it's lots of fun to work those massive firm tits and watch them ride the wave. Still no threat of cumming so I put her back on BJ. I love how submissive she is saying "whatever you like" or "how do you want me". Ok. Suck my dick nice and slow baby. Lots of licking, play and ball work. Yessir.

Def coulda shot a load right then but take her through another round of mish for a while and back to BJ for the finish. She is very very good with tongue and mouth and hands so that it's one single symphony of BJ. And I start to writhe around and shoot a monster load in her mouth. She swallows every drop appreciatively like a good girl would and keeps pumping to the very end. Nice!

Of course some quick wind down and cuddles. She's just a really nice genuine person. With a real life and a real job and real emotions. The way Seeking should be. Two souls who would never cross paths in regular life share an evening and it's just great. What a wonderful thing.

[Steve 9696]

Everything vanessasclient has said is true and spot on.

Here is the other pov you will learn to optimize.

My best experiences have been with girls who have gotten recently on seeking. They are excited, they are nervous, they are curious. Most importantly, they are not corrupted yet. So, catching then young is a big win.

However. You need to optimize for what VC has said below.

Engage slowly and gradually, don't show desperation (scammers generally don't have lot of time).

I like the newer girls. So, I am. Willing to take the risk of evading scammers (my intuition is generally right). If you aren't willing to take the risk, VC advise below is perfect recipe for you.

I'm generally with GFE on this. Yes. Longtime girls are prob not scammers. But they are probably pros and / or hardened. My faves are almost always new to the game. My new local Mexicana joined Apr 11 and we went out early May. And one hot prospect I had that fizzled due to my married status (yes some girls are still naive enough to care) joined in Jan. Generally a new girl with a real job is a home run. But you do risk the scam or cold feet. Totally worth it to me.

[Gfefan]

Everything vanessasclient has said is true and spot on.

Here is the other pov you will learn to optimize.

My best experiences have been with girls who have gotten recently on seeking. They are excited, they are nervous, they are curious. Most importantly, they are not corrupted yet. So, catching then young is a big win.

However. You need to optimize for what VC has said below.

Engage slowly and gradually, don't show desperation (scammers generally don't have lot of time).

I like the newer girls. So, I am. Willing to take the risk of evading scammers (my intuition is generally right). If you aren't willing to take the risk, VC advise below is perfect recipe for you.

The biggest green flag you ca look for is the length of time the profile has been established. If someone is scamming people, they know 1 of 2 things will happen. Either Seeking will ban their profile, or if the victims are not reporting the profile to Seeking, the scammer will take it down anyhow because the victims can still share the link with other people to bad rap the profile, or try to snag the scammer. Most scammers will not leave up profiles they have used to cheat people because they know either the victims or cops will try to use any info they can from it to catch the fucker, even if the pictures and info are fake, there's no reason why anyone other than the scammer or group of scammers would be operating behind that particular profile.

On the other hand, photos can always be altered using software, and people can create smurf social media accounts. So, if you see a profile that is active and Seeking shows that it was created 2 or 3 years ago, that's a much better indication than a profile that was only created 1 week or month ago.

Let's say the only thing the "scammer" is guilty of is using outdated or heavily modified photos. Still, that's why there are sites like these where people can post reviews. They still would not be incentivized to use a profile that has a bad reputation in the guys community for having catfish photos. Anyone who is doing their research or paying attention won't want to contact that person, and she won't be getting much business from Seeking.

That being said, if the profile happens to have the other verification badges, then that's great. But I would not rely on them. Unless maybe the profile had ALL of them. FB, IG, LinkedIn, photo verified, ID verified, AND background check all together, then maybe yes, even if it was less than a month old. But to this very day I think I have yet to see a profile like that.

Case in point: I very recently met up with a girl who I was exceptionally satisfied with. But her profile had no verifications. When was it created? "Member Since: April 2019" And what are we now? May 2024.

[VanessasClient]

Notice some seeking profiles have verified photos / links to their instagram / Facebook page.

From your experience are they more legit and worth pursuing.

What's the red flags for catfish type profiles?

The biggest green flag you can look for is the length of time the profile has been established. If someone is scamming people, they know 1 of 2 things will happen. Either Seeking will ban their profile, or if the victims are not reporting the profile to Seeking, the scammer will take it down anyhow because the victims can still share the link with other people to bad rap the profile, or try to snag the scammer. Most scammers will not leave up profiles they have used to cheat people because they know either the victims or cops will try to use any info they can from it to catch the fucker, even if the pictures and info are fake, there's no reason why anyone other than the scammer or group of scammers would be operating behind that particular profile.

On the other hand, photos can always be altered using software, and people can create smurf social media accounts. So, if you see a profile that is active and Seeking shows that it was created 2 or 3 years ago, that's a much better indication than a profile that was only created 1 week or month ago.

Let's say the only thing the "scammer" is guilty of is using outdated or heavily modified photos. Still, that's why there are sites like these where people can post reviews. They still would not be incentivized to use a profile that has a bad reputation in the guys community for having catfish photos. Anyone who is doing their research or paying attention won't want to contact that person, and she won't be getting much business from Seeking.

That being said, if the profile happens to have the other verification badges, then that's great. But I would not rely on them. Unless maybe the profile had ALL of them. FB, IG, LinkedIn, photo verified, ID verified, AND background check all together, then maybe yes, even if it was less than a month old. But to this very day I think I have yet to see a profile like that.

Case in point: I very recently met up with a girl who I was exceptionally satisfied with. But her profile had no verifications. When was it created? "Member Since: April 2019" And what are we now? May 2024.

[Steve 9696]

Well I guess the sand to the beach guy is at it again. But I just love spending a few days with a girl you like. I don't talk about the bedtime spooning and sleeping intertwined below but man that's a highlight. I looooove sleeping with young hotties. Oh and she's pretty much naked any time we are in the room. Argghhh! I already miss her! Anyhow here's how it went down.

I'the met Lila about a month ago in a large city I visit. See my report from mid April. Had two other Seeking girls before her and they were OK but Lila was a home run. Just amazing chemistry and conversation from minute one and mind blowing sex. I kinda threw a flyer out there about maybe traveling her and she was open.

So a month later we put together a little trip. We could only work in a few days together because she has a real job but boy did we have fun. I think I've mentioned before how I like the entire "having a girlfriend" experience and this was top notch in that respect.

She landed about 2:30 and Ubered to the hotel I was already staying at. We bop up to the room and of course it's on instantly. She says she'the like to shower and after a bit I join her.

Pretty vanilla shower but we get to kissing and a little hands on and we are ready to towel off and get down to it. The sex was urgent and passionate. Started with the Steve 2 with her blowing me while I finger her.

Last time I was able to orgasm her by fingering but she doesn't quite get there. So I pull out my DATY toolkit and go to work. She's got a fleshy pussy so her clits a bit buried but it's hard and easy enough to find. After some time I work a finger in (she starts quite tight) and start doing gspot circles as I remember last time this was the ticket.

She is cooing and rolling her hips appreciatively but not quite getting there. But I keep on and eventually get a build but it fades. And another that fades. But then ow wow! After about 20 minutes she has a crashing O. Clamping my head between her thighs and bucking like a bronco. Sooooo fun.

She gives me a little thumbs up sign and a big smile but I don't let her rest long before I slide in. Of course now we've loosened up to accommodate me and she is wet as a fountain. It feels fucking amazing.

We fuck good for several minutes but it's not long before she has another O. It feels so good inside her when she climaxes but I am not yet there. We do the Steve for a while but eventually I flop on my back and she blows me.

At one point she is licking my balls and kinda keeps going down the middle like she's eating pussy. Does this for a long time and I wonder if she's bi. She is! And has a girlfriend. Lots of interesting stories the next day.

Even though the BJ is good I want to fuck her bad and tell her so. So she mounts up cowgirl and it's fucking heavenly. I don't usually love CG or cum in CG but she rides me to a crashing O where I pull out and shoot a ten inch shot on my tummy. Super nice.

I have a work event I need to show my face at so I leave for that and let her freshen up for dinner. After that we head to an amazing dinner where the seafood risotto is the best I've ever had.

We have a minor detour to the hotel to fix her eyelash but then head to the gay club to find some dancing. Turns out it's a gay bar and not too many folks there. But they have a pool table and it's great fun teaching her to play. She's a natural and has an amazing time.

Back in the room we have great drunk sex. So great I don't remember it much. In the end I can't cum and I probably push on a bit long. We are both tired. But I wanted that nut. Oh well.

Next day we sleep till 11 and then spend all day at the pool. Before going down she models all three bikinis she brought and let's me choose. Fuck that's great. King of the world and this is what complete GFE is all about.

She looks hot as fuck in the bikini of choice and I want to fuck her all day. But we just chat amiably while lounging in the shallow end. A couple margaritas in hand and life is good. We are sooooo compatible and just get along effortlessly which belies our 35 year age gap.

After the pool we go back to the room and get naked for a bit. I do the Steve 2 which I generally adore. I give her a crashing by finger O but I don't cum. I am thinking of fucking her but her body language says she's done. I think I learned that she's a girl where you need to save her O because she loses interest a bit afterwards. Still it was fun and we get dressed for an evening out.

We have a great time just window shopping and strolling hand in hand for a couple hours before dinner. She's totally low maintenance and never makes any "buy me that" overtures. In fact when she gets a small souvenir for her mom and later some makeup removers she immediately gets out her card and pays. (Most girls kinda expect the SD to pick up incidentals).

Dinner is spectacular at an Asian Fusion place. But the highlight of the night is still ahead. But it's not what comes next!

Earlier in the day she confessed she started going to sex clubs w her girlfriend and they like to have guys jerk off to them. Much more a wildcat than I thought! So we make plans to go to the sex club together and have high hopes. The best rated one is only open weekends so we settle for number two.

We pay our $40 and walk in and OMG. There are three couples. All north of 60 years old and a couple geriatric single guys. Soooo disappointing. And honestly I think she was looking forward to it more than me! But we going to raincheck that!

We make the most of it and play a few rounds of pool where she shows off her newfound skill. Had we been drunk as fuck we mighta put on a little show for the seniors. But it's BYOB and we have no B. So no sex for you!

We sit in the porno room and agree that no one really likes the sex they always show. Rabbit fast fucking and BJ and just really not sexy at all. But it's there and we let it wash over us while we find a Latin club.

We find a 4. 0 rated club that is very bipolar. Love it or hate it. Well we fucking loved it! We got some drinks and hit the floor and absolutely lit it up. She is just so joyful. She knows the words to EVERY latin song and we just dance like maniacs. I took some great videos that I will prob watch 80 times.

Because I dance with hotties all over the world I am def not doing the grandpa shuffle. She tells me if she didn't know any better she'the think I was Puerto Rican. Awww. Warms my heart. And I have several people high fiving me through out the night. Had this happen before and not sure if it's:

Look at that white dude go!

Look at that old guy go!

Man that old guy has the hottest chick in the club! Go old white dude go. Fuck her for me!

Prob a combination of all the above! In any case it feels good that there is an electric vibe and we are a part of it. Reminds me of Thifany in London in 2019. And she has such a ridiculously good time. Feeding off young girl energy is just electric. We dance for FOUR hours and crash like big dogs.

We wake about 11 and have some nice brunch before our flight. We are flying back to her city because she has work the next day. From here it's a bit of a wind down. After landing we have a nice dinner and some sex with a super blast CIM which she swallows with gusto. What a babe!

My god I don't think I could have had more fun. The sex was solid mid 7 stuff. Def had better. But the entire package of compatibly, chemistry, epic food, cuddling and clubs. It just can't be beat. Will repeat.

[FilthyBeaver]

I scored a really nice girl a couple years ago in Frankfurt. It was the most I ever paid but we had amazing chemistry and it was worth it at the time. It was a lot of work for not a lot of responses and time wasters. I like SA in Germany because the pros mostly stay off it and the girls I made contact with were genuinely the stereotypical sugar baby types but not a lot of girls use it. I also met an attractive girl in Munich but it was a lot of work. There's no secret here. Make contact, seize on any chemistry and meet them ASAP.

Hi Gents,

Would love to gain some insights about SA in Germany- specifically Dusseldorf or Frankfurt. Will be in those cities end of this month. Can someone who has had any dates in Germany specifically guide me further.

I have been active on SA in India, Dubai and London.

TIA.

Regards,

[Ruch888]

Hi Gents,

Would love to gain some insights about SA in Germany- specifically Dusseldorf or Frankfurt. Will be in those cities end of this month. Can someone who has had any dates in Germany specifically guide me further.

I have been active on SA in India, Dubai and London.

TIA.

Regards,

[ChanceSome]

Howdy folks. First off, I would like to say that the SA forum here is great. I thoroughly enjoyed reading the posts going back 6 months. Kudos for writing good reports and being generally helpful to one another.

I'll be contributing soon as I will be traveling to Bogota at the end of the month and expect to pop my SA cherry. I signed up for SA last week and started getting used to the app. My oh my are there some beautiful girls on here! And for the most part, they're very responsive. I get favorited on the regular, and not going to lie, it feels good to be wanted!

So I had questions about a few things.

1) As I understand it, once you have established a rapport with the girl, the goal is to get the whatsapp number, so you can discuss dates + agreements. Strangely enough, I've had several girls stop chatting with me entirely once I asked for their whatsapp. One of the girls I was chatting with every day last week, so it came as a complete surprise. What am I missing here?

2) So on seeking there are 2 icons: a pin icon and a house icon. The pin is your current location and the house is your home location. For me, the pin icon reflects as the United States and the house icon is Bogota. I've had several girls with US pins and Bogota houses reach out to me. Are these scammers? I don't quite understand why a girl in the US would be looking for a sugar daddy in Bogota. Or maybe they're on VPN?

[Nachoy]

Notice some seeking profiles have verified photos / links to their instagram / Facebook page.

From your experience are they more legit and worth pursuing.

What's the red flags for catfish type profiles?

[NapataJohn]

The thing that's bullshit is that the site is telling me that without a public picture my profile is only 25% complete. That's just not true! I've filled out everything else, and even have a private photo. !

SHows we can upgrade without photo see attachment.

[DramaFree11]

I can understand why the vast majority of guys dismiss Seeking as a waste of time. It requires amazing patience and persistence but is def the best gig in town in the US if you exercise both. Twice now I've been stood up but then grasped victory from the jaws of defeat.

The first was when traveling recently. I ran into the "my mom needs medicine" scam where I was literally at the restaurant when she hit me with this BS. Annoying yes, and I'm pretty darn good at this game, but par for the course. I took it in stride and hit up a fat girl and had a wonderful time including the legendary "fat girls try harder" blowjob. But I'm not going to settle there. Next day I score a Mexican hottie for only three bills and she is absolutely dynamite. So much fun as a person and great in bed. The whole package. Taking her in a business trip w me soon. Patience and Persistence.

The second was just this week. My hometown is total shit for Seeking and I recently broke off my two year arrangement with Shayla. I had settled for another heavy girl with a pretty face and we were headed out to drinks and maybe some apps. Now this time it wasn't a scam but I think she just got cold feet. She texts that she's just getting out of work and then says she's too nervous and ends up bagging out.

Do I cry in my beer? No, I have a nice dinner and a nice drink and start chatting up other girls. I'm quite forward when I drink so this one Mexican hottie (totally out of character for my hometown) they I have taken to text is babysitting and we start chatting. I'm very forward and saying come right now and drink with me. She's intrigued by the confidence and while I can't get her out we set a date for next day.

Long story short she's fucking amazing. She won't fuck on the first date, and I break my cardinal rule and buy her some expensive sunglasses without having fucked. We did make out a bit and preview the goods both directions but I was def down serious $$ and questioning myself over this. But yesterday we fucked like bunnies and it was fabulous.

This brings me to the abundance mindset. As some of you know I was following the Japanese street pickup scene for a while and they talk about the abundance mindset and outcome independence. Put differently don't be so fucking thirsty it's not attractive. And this played out with my girl. I was pressuring her for a date (to fuck) and she was busy and all the rest. I realized I was being thirsty and backed off and said I know why are busy I'll just hit up in two weeks. And BAM. She's like OMG that's so long. Do you want to meet up today? Hahaha. Thank you Japanese Nanpa dudes (and PUA predecessors).

I don't think she's fucked an old guy before because I wore her out! But it was tons of fun and we def an item now.

So slog thru the BS. Spin the wheel. Get right back up when knocked down. Persist with patience and an abundance mindset and good things will happen.

Ps Anyone else noticing a trend towards bareback? Seems almost viral. Last handful of girls have all been bareback without any hesitation whatsoever. Although my recent girl had it halfway in when she asked youre clean right? LOL. But yeah veritable bareback epidemic breaking out.

Yes, I feel the same. SA is so much fun in Mexico, yet, some complain and refuse to take advantage of the opportunities. As we have all said, it can be tough in the states, but it works. In Parts of Europe and Latin America the opportunities are endless. It definitely beats hanging out in strip bars or on regular dating sites.

[Steve 9696]

Excellent report. May I ask what city? I travel a lot to GDL. A LOT!

Sorry for the confusion because this is mixed in the middle of a CDMX discussion. My local Mexican is in the northeast USA and the other a central USA city. That's why three bills was amazing. Just happenstance thst I'm doing Mexicanas while you guys are talking Mexico. LOL.

[AmericanPi]

No need to calculate a CPF. Fucking rock out with your cock out. Literally!!

Reminds me of a time in Cdmx. I'm one of these guys that can bang several times a night. Long as I wait 1.5 to 2 hours I can go again. But I don't last long. Maybe 5-10 min.

This one girl changed the terms on me during the date. Scheduled an overnight and at dinner she changed to end at 1 am. I had to offer more to get her to agree to overnight. Like 500 pesos more.

But it didn't come cheap, for. I thought f it, I'm getting my moneys worth. Banged 2 times before we went to sleep. Then set alarm to go off at 3 am, silent vibrate alarm. Got up, took a pee, took a shot of bourbon, and woke her up to go again. Then I wake up early so I was up at 630, and went again. Then when she finally got up for real to leave at like 930 am, started getting dressed and I was like hold on, we are going to go one more time before you leave.

I was so drained I honestly didn't even want to do the date I had later on that day. I was damn sure going to make her reciprocate if she changed the terms on me.

[Vendelo]

Here's how it went down with my second bareback Mexicana goddess in the last month! LOL.

Day 1:

Wow. Just totally blown away by this girl. Might have made the crucial "never pay first" error but damn what a girl. Here's how it went down.

First the lead up banter was super interesting. I was actually at a bar having a drink because my other Seeking date stood me up. And I was on a roll being very forward…

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Excellent report. May I ask what city? I travel a lot to GDL. A LOT!