Stupid shit in Medellin

[Elvis 2008]

As far as The Big Big E's mis / disinformation or just plain inaccurate bullshit about the Amish, of course that's not true:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/

LOL. Can you read? "First, we cannot track the cause of death through the obituary data. " So we cannot track the data but let's just assume that the increased in number of deaths in 2020 was due to a virus with a 0. 2% mortality.

And then you fall for the % change bullshit. Let's apply this to the vaccine data shall we?

3 participants in the BNT162 b2 group and 2 in the original placebo group who received BNT162 b2 after unblinding died.

You take that data and you can say, "Oh my God, you are 50% more likely to die if you get the Covid vaccine. " That is the game "scientists" play to scare people.

This study, and I do not even want to call it a study, this bullshit piece of propaganda was put into place to support the stupid shit government was doing and demonize the Amish, and a dumb fuck like you fell for it.

And you are not even debating about the vaccine because the vaccine was not available when this study was done.

"The importance of face-to-face rituals in CRCs and Amish groups' general resistance to mask-wearing and other CDC guidelines makes them especially vulnerable to COVID-19".

The one thing every country agreed on was to not have mass gatherings. Hell, I believed in that and did not go to mass gatherings back then, but the Amish did not and guess what? IMO that should be their fucking choice. Democratic douches like you support mass gathering BLM riots but freaked out when people went to church.

The really important part of this study is government is attacking the Amish. Government does not like how fucking healthy they are and how they resist government mandates, and there is a war brewing between them and government. If you follow the news, there is a horrible government case against the Amish and how one Amish person was growing his food and not even selling it to the general public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_zy3x1j1t0

Yeah, we cannot have people producing their own food and selling it to their neighbors! I am sure the government can conduct another bullshit study as to why this is saving us. Cough, cough.

Meantime, follow Elvis's awesome theory and go for ADHD chicks. Confiscate their Ritalin and you have total control.

Ritalin is not widely used in other countries. We have a shit load more ADHD in our country after the vaccines and this stuff is given out by the pound now to combat what is not normal for kids to do: sit in a classroom for hours on end when young.

And what group flies in the face of the government's hairbrained "education" scheme? That would again be the Amish.

And no, I do not love the Amish or want to be a part of their group. I love freedom and as someone who loves freedom, that means leaving the Amish the fuck alone.

[JjBee62]

Much of what you question was covered in the video that your not interested to watch, a lot more was covered in his well researched book on the subject.

You're a smart guy. Summarize it. However, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Let's assume that there is a link between DDT and either polio, or polio like symptoms, which are not and will never be the same. Before I continue I want to be certain you have every opportunity to understand that point.

Polio is a communicable disease caused by a virus. We know beyond any doubt whatsoever this is fact. It's even part of a common anti-vax talking point. There were at least 2 times when quality control failure in vaccine manufacturing resulted in vaccines containing live virus were distributed and used, causing people who got the vaccine to come down with polio.

There are possibly many things which could produce polio like symptoms. However, that won't be polio. It won't be contagious, and quite likely, once exposure to the substance ceases the symptoms will disappear.

It doesn't much matter which we assume DDT causes, but the distinction is important, because a contagious disease requires different actions than an illness that's not contagious.

Back on track. We're saying DDT causes one or the other. A skeptic wants funding to prove the link, but nobody will give him money. Now let's buff up the skeptic. He's not just some guy who lacks the education and experience to be taken seriously. Nope. Our skeptic is a dual PhD and an expert in both pesticides and communicable disease. He's considered one of the top experts in the world. He's done all the preliminary work, has everything needed for a successful grant application. He might get funding, if he's not asking for too much. Someone with money might fund his research in the hope that they can get something useful from him later.

There's simple reason why nobody wants to fund that research. It has no benefit. You're spending money to fix a problem which no longer exists. Worldwide, 6 cases in 2021. Two of the three strains of virus have been eradicated. The remaining 1 can only be found in Pakistan and Afghanistan. To the best of my knowledge there have been no cases of polio like symptoms that weren't shown to be caused by the polio virus.

To compound problem, DDT usage has been mostly restricted for 50 years. While DDT was widely used countries which pursued vaccination showed rapid and drastic reduction in the number of cases.

So, without the possibility of exposure to DDT and lacking anyone with polio or polio like symptoms, the field of study yields nothing useful.

[JustTK]

For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?

Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??

Can you please take your monger posts elsewhere please, this is the Great Vccine Debate Forum. Go find a mongering forum to post sex comments or smthg.

[Huacho]

I wanted to add to Elvis's trenchant observation about selecting women with ADHD: bulimic women give great head because they've overcome that gag reflex. Or look for women with upper dental plates. They don't have the caved in faces of the truly edentulous but you get the same advantage. Or epileptics. Stick it in and trigger a seizure. I think Elvis's autism doctors have some more ideas. Donald Trump recommends taking advantage of autistic women because they won't make good witnesses. Plus like Elvis says, " doctors cannot find an unvaccinated kid with autism" so you'd be in less danger from the virus if you just stick to screwing autistic women, because Elvis proves conclusively that all autistics are vaccinated.

As far as The Big Big E's mis / disinformation or just plain inaccurate bullshit about the Amish, of course that's not true:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/

Pay particular attention to this sentences, all you more ONS out there:

"Closed religious communities also resist epidemiological surveillance. "

So if and when these wing nuts show lower rates of infection it's because they're ignorant, and lying, and etc.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...m-356029928165

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2N2NZ1TY/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...19/4455551001/

This last one shows how misinformation was deliberately posted.

Meantime, follow Elvis's awesome theory and go for ADHD chicks. Confiscate their Ritalin and you have total control.

[Iguana Six]

That is hilarious stuff. Someone in a basement somewhere is laughing their ass off at how it's spreading.

Thank you.

[Gabacho]

He can't find it because I made it up. Wasn't it obvious?

The only thing missing was a quote from a politician blaming "Tucker Carlson and Putin-loving Republicans congressmen" for holding up the aid.

What is funny is that he actually looked it up and was trying to find it. I literally LOL'd just now reading your comment.

[Iguana Six]

For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?

Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??

It is Day 29 of the Great Pointless Monger Debate / Science Fair.

[Iguana Six]

You can't find it because it is just more internet bullshit that people believe.

He can't find it because I made it up. Wasn't it obvious?

The only thing missing was a quote from a politician blaming "Tucker Carlson and Putin-loving Republicans congressmen" for holding up the aid.

[Gabacho]

For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?

Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??

This is the stupid shit in Medellin section.

The reports about bi*ches, as you call them, can be found in the main Medellin thread.

Now back to your regularly programmed stupid shit schedule.

[Jim0129]

For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?

Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??

[JustTK]

Using the word polio to refer to symptoms of polio, not caused by the polio virus doesn't work. Vomiting and / or diarrhea are symptoms of some types of influenza...

Much of what you question was covered in the video that your not interested to watch, a lot more was covered in his well researched book on the subject.

[JjBee62]

They understand. I think they just use more of a cross that bridge when we come to it approach. When cars came out they knew the engine exhaust gave off pollution. But at least we will not have to deal with all this horseshit everywhere anymore. When electric cars came out they knew how mining lithium for the batteries fucks up the environment and the miners. But at least we will not have to deal with this smog anymore.

Nobody was complaining about the environmental impact of lithium production during the cold War when it was used to build nuclear weapons. Build a bomb capable of destroying an entire city, Yay! Let's build 10,000 more! Build a car that you can plug in and charge and suddenly "what about the environmental impact?

Same thing with coal mining. Didn't hear a lot of complaints about the health risk to miners or the environmental impact, until solar panels and windmills started popping up. Now if you believe the stories, wind turbines are all surrounded by the carcasses of millions of dead birds.

There is mechanically no difference between a simple positive displacement pump and the reciprocating steam engine, invented in 1712, but the pump was invented about 2,000 years earlier. It took about 150 years after the steam engine for someone to figure out the same effect can be generated by gasoline. Thirty years later someone decides to put an engine in a wagon and the car is born.

Of course nobody was thinking about smog. Most heat and cooking was being done by burning coal. Imagine NYC when every building, every house is burning coal. One guy with a gasoline engine powered buggy isn't thinking about the environmental impact.

[JjBee62]

When I speak of 'science', I generally mean 'the science community in general'. As you agree it is often (but not always) wrong. As a species we seem to be very good at developing technology (scientific breakthroughs) but lag way behind in understanding its impact. The issue w the COVID discussion here, I think, is that you are willing to accept what one section of the scientific community is saying, the section that is corrupted by capitalism, and dismiss the skeptics. It seems your general leaning is on the wrong side of the fence on this one.

As far as the new hypothesis goes WRT polio polio refers to a paralysis caused by inflammation at the base of the spine. The polio virus causes this, but so do various other things the virus is far from unique in causing that. So when 'scientists' claim that they recorded polio in the 18th century they mean that people were observed with this paralysis at that time. No doubt there were sufferers of paralysis at the time, but that does not mean that the virus caused it. And indeed, no scientist had the know-how to identify a virus at that time. So the new hypothesis is that the polio VIRUS arrived in the USA at the end of the 19th century along with the new and widespread use of DDT, thus causing the epidemic.

Note a polio epidemic is not the same as polio. Just as COVID can exist without there being a COVID epidemic.

I don't ignore the skeptics who have done the work to support a valid hypothesis. I do ignore the ones who simply have an opinion, idea or complaint. Take the article that Immobile Home linked (Casa No Va is "house doesn't go". A house that goes is a mobile home). It's complaining that people with differing opinions can't get funding. Walk into any bank, tell them you have an opinion that if they loan you $1 million, you can turn it into $10 million in 30 days. You're not getting funding. Walk into the same bank with a solid business plan, market research, seed money and a list of investors, all showing your opinion has an excellent chance of success and walk out with the money.

Using the word polio to refer to symptoms of polio, not caused by the polio virus doesn't work. Vomiting and / or diarrhea are symptoms of some types of influenza, or symptoms of food poisoning, or symptoms of excessive alcohol consumption, or symptoms caused by taking a purgative and laxative. Only 1 of those 4 examples is contagious.

Polio, or a condition which produces polio like symptoms has been around long before pesticides, all the way back to ancient Egypt. It was first clinically described in the late 18th century, first classified as a disease mid 19th century and first shown to be caused by a virus early 20th century. First serious outbreak of polio in the US was in 1894. That's where the hypothesis falls to pieces.

While DDT was first invented in 1874, nobody was using it as a pesticide, nobody was using it at all. A chemist produced a compound which was stable, but nobody knew what it was good for. In 1939 someone discovered it worked well as a pesticide. Any polio outbreaks prior to 1939 can't possibly be attributed to DDT.

Assuming DDT can be shown to cause polio like symptoms, or can be shown to increase risk of infection by lowering immunity, then DDT could potentially be linked to polio outbreaks in the 1950's, 60's and 70's. However, if the main component of the polio outbreaks was caused by DDT rather than the polio virus, outbreaks would not have been significantly affected by the widespread distribution of the vaccines. Polio cases would have only started to disappear after DDT use was restricted. Yet, here's the timeline:

1952- worst recorded outbreak in NYC, 20,000 cases.

1955- Salk vaccine approved and mass vaccination begins.

1962- less than 1,000 cases in US.

1970- 33 cases of polio in US.

1972- US bans general use of DDT.

You can track the cases by year for any country which started vaccination while DDT was widely used, and in countries where it only had limited use, the results are the same.

Can DDT cause polio like symptoms? It's possible. However, we have nobody with polio like symptoms. While DDT was being widely used the majority of polio like symptoms were found in cities, rather than rural areas where DDT was more widely used. Outbreaks which primarily occur in areas with high population density indicate a contagious disease.

The only way to properly test the hypothesis is to expose children to DDT to see if they get polio like symptoms. Can you think of any reason why capitalism isn't throwing money towards that hypothesis?

[Huacho]

So you take an ADHD person, and they are more likely to be physical attractive because they are high energy people

Now that observation is truly phenomenal.

[Villainy]

My attitude in terms of what I am willing to pay has in no way shape or form anything to do with how I treat the girls. I am always kind, never rude or violent.

But at the end of the day it is a service that you consume. You really do not have to pretend it is more than that. And prices matter. Not everyone makes $150 k+ a year.

You can dress it up however you want. But let's look at what you said.

Tough luck. I'm not there to support hookers. I am here to use them. No moral issues with that at all. If any of those girls were in the US they would not even look at you.

Sounds harsh but what I am saying is if roles were reversed you can bet your ass that they would not give a flying FK about you either.

I am not saying you need to pay a girl close to what would be required in the US or in Europe but you might try to show just a modicum of humanity. 5 or 10 dollars (converted to COP) as a tip would mean nothing to you (at least I hope not) but for her it is food for the family for a few days.