2005 Lima Reports

[Member #4351]

slhyd,

Thanks for the complements. I'm happy to help out. Don't like to see fellow gringos get ripped off.

[Member #4351]

Nice cutie!!

[Long Stroker]

Mikster, Screwed Up, what an excellent discussion you guys are having. On the contrary, I don't find it boring at all. These are the issues that all mongers dwell upon in their darkest hours. As a matter of fact, I am taking part in a very similar discussion over on the American Women thread of WSG right now. Questions like:

When is it safe to bring a foriegn GF back to the states? (Answer: never)

When is marriage a good idea? (Answer: very rarely)

You guys should come join us. Sounds like you both have interesting perspectives to share.

Milkster, you know someone who married a Tequila girl? That's fucking classic!

David33, have fun in SEA, buddy. Here's to yellow fever!

[FlyingAce]

Hello,

Madonna’s – S30 Entry, S50 Exit, US$70/hr – say you are a friend of Francisco to avoid entry fee, although recent report says this no longer works.

Weekender 123,

The entry fee can be waved, you just need to understand how it works in Lima. If you get in a cab and ASK to go to XYZ Club, the cabbie will try to show you another location. Because you asked, he can't tell you it costs x soles for entrance. The cabbies get 90-100% of all entrance fees! If they see a "foreigner" the price goes up. Normal entry is 20 soles, "foreigner" 80-100 soles with anywhere from 70 to 100 soles going to the cab driver.

So, if the cabbie tells you an entrance fee- it's his price - not ours! If we don't pay him, he doesn't bring any more customers to the place. If I could only convince the other clubs to stop this would be GREAT, but the first club that starts paying again gets the clients.

PM me if you want some additional info on prices.

FlyingAce

[Slhyd]

Just got bak from Lima...What a great friend to have in David. Excellent knowledge about the chicas in Lima...Cannot go wrong with his choices.. Helped me a great lot in Lima.. Looking for ore trips to Lima..Thanx again David for all the hospitality and info u provided in lima...Have a great and safe trip to SE Asia....

[Member #4351]

Mikster,

Having lived in Peru for quite a while, and dated a great number of girls from all social levels, both from web sites, and met through friends or just during day to day activities, its very possible that the girl is on the up and up.

I would check her out for you, but am leaving next weekend to BKK and other SE asian spots for a few weeks. I think that our dear Belgian friend is being just a little too cynical and pessimistic. So far she hasn't asked you for anything...if you really feel that there are long term possibilities with her...go for it. I think that if one feels one MUST get married, I tend to agree with the philosophy put forward on www.nomarriage.com ; marry a latina or asian. From what I have seen, I think that in general Peruvian girls make excellent wives.

[Screwed Up]

Yeah, Mikster, I feel you.

The other mongers are probably bored by now because our last posts don´t contain any monger info.

Anyway I´ll be glad to go for a night of mongering in either Cali, Colombia between now and the 29th of March or after the 10th of May.

And in Lima, Peru 2 weeks later. Just hit me up with a PM.

Cheers

[Mikster]

Speaking of looking for nice girls, there is a board exclusively for guys hunting wives in LA, Asia, and Eastern Europe. Its pretty much the only reason they go to these places, to get engaged and married. Some guys do it in one weekend, I have seen them in action. Weekend wonders I call them. Some of the biggest idiots in the world visit these so-called marriage agencies full of women wanting to marry gringos and get the hell out of dodge. Of course, the agency or the girls would never tell you that but you can bet most of them are there for that reason solely and not for love. There are a few in Lima that I know of and I actually visited them and was less than impressed with the clientele or the ladies in the books. A waste of time really. They even have 'socials' where you can pay the whopping sum of several hundred dollars to attend their weekend extravaganzas. Im sure there are many guys on this board who have tried the marriage agencies and then monger on the side, or just bang the girls from the agencies like I did. Its just about the same thing alot of the time. I love it when the dudeds on the marriage board say, "you just have to meet the right girl," as if they know what the hell they are even talking about. 60 year old guys marrying 20 years and thinking the chick is in love with them. Better yet, I know one dude who married a girl from Tequila. Me and my friend did our best to talk him out of him but he would have none of it. I even banged her back in 2000 and told him, but it didnt matter, he still married her. Unbelievable.

The funniest by far though are the guys who go to Angeles City, Philippines, a complete ***** town and stay on the fuck strip and end up marrying girls who are working night and day banging anything with a dick. As soon as the guy leaves, she is immediately back to being stuffed with cock again. I met a girl there who was engaged to an american sailor. She told me since she was engaged and in love, that all she could do was blow me, and let me fuck her tits.....which I did. Oh well, to each his own.

I even more jaded now after writing all this. Maybe I will stay single the rest of my life. Why fuck up a good thing, huh?

Later

Milkster

[Mikster]

Yeah, I know. Every guy thinks he has found a girl that is different and he is the lucky one who got the special girl. I suppose the only answer that can alleviate those fears totally is to just bang chicks the rest of our lives and forget about love or a relationship alltogether. If I could find interest in American women again that could be a way out but who wants that now after knowing what we know about latin women and the kind of sex and companionship they provide?

I had a girl up here several years ago. She was from Lima and she was staying in D.C. for six months prior to coming here to stay with me permanently. A friend of mine suggested I hire a Private investigator that he knew and got me a cheap deal as a favor to my friend. He was an ex-model and would put the moves on the girls himself. After getting to know her a little he started making attempts to get her. The farthest he got was one night he ran into her at a bar and she danced and drank with him. She resisted his efforts to get cozy with her at the bar and finally gave him her phone number. He called and she refused to talk with him. Maybe she had a weak moment, I dont know but even that bothered me. Why is a girl who says she loves me at a bar dancing and drinking with some other dude? Its enough to fuck up the whole thing because you dont know what could have happened had he persisted or if she really wanted him or not.

Well, this is a *****monger board so I guess I should stop talking about all this other nonsense. I suppose the bottom line is you never know what is in another persons thoughts, or what they want to do if they have the chance, or what they will do when given the chance. I wouldnt mind have somebody try to date or bang her, but thats hard to do when you have some kind of feeling for her. Then you never know for sure if the guy will tell you the whole truth. Maybe he would bang her and then never tell you for some reason, or not bang her and say he did. Too many variables to go for it I would say. I would have to be a witness to the whole thing like a private eye or something to see what really goes on.

Oh well, theres always pussy to make you forget these trivial matters. If only I had more time.

Later fellas

Milkster

[Screwed Up]

My Cuban girl in Belgium was married since she was 15 with a 28yo bank dude.
He took her out off Cuba, but I should have known you can never take the country out of the girl.

They seperated about 2-3 yrs ago. Could even be less as far as I know. But officially she is still married when I met her at 21. I´m 24.

These girls are pro´s in lying, cheating and deceiving. I don´t know your girl, so I can´t judge yours. But when I was with this Cuban girl she too gave me the passwords of her account even without asking and the keys of her appartment.

I meet the girls here the same way as I meet them in Belgium: some on the internet, some working in a bar, some going out, some walking around in the city.

I suspect two of these girls to be prostitutes.

Both of them had or have a 40+ guy supporting them financially.

Another girl just likes to hang out with good-looking young guys for free. I never saw her with older men.

Most of the dudes I saw her with are better looking than me. But all of them think she´s an ok-girl. Like I did last year.

When she introduced me, she would tell them that I´m her cousin.

Just think rational. Don´t support or marry a girl that you haven´t spend at least a full year with. Would one marry a girl in a first world country after 1 year? Most probably not, so why would one do it in a third world country?

Whatever you do, don´t take them to your country.

You will be in for a quick surprising. She might be the best girl in the world, taking her to a first world country will corrupt her. She will claim it won´t, but the thing is she doesn´t even know how it will be like. She has no clue how life in the first world will change her.

One´s best bet would be to have other gringo´s try to get in contact with her by telling them where she can be found and at what hours. And then wait how long it takes before she fucks them.

I made all my buddies promise they would try to fuck mine if I would ever fall in love again. Hell, I banged the girl from AFF on the first day together with my buddy. And she´s the girl I like the most now. Hahahahahahaaa

[Mikster]

Screwed up,

This is actually very interesting to me. The truth is, I have no idea what this girl is doing now. She could be with another guy for all I know and I suppose therein lies the problem. How in the world do you trust anybody in these situations. She call here alot and gets extremely upset when I voice my doubts to her. She did cancel her profile after a couple days I was there and I cant find her anywhere else on the internet after and exhaustive search. She works and enrolled herself in the American English school, pays for it herself even though I offered to help a little. Says she wants to learn english so she can talk to me better and be with me in the future. It all sounds to good to be true, but I hate to throw her away or just use her for sex if she actually is on the up and up and is sincere. I cant believe that every girl is immediately on the prowl, but I suppose it could be possible that most, or at least a high percentage are.

I am curious as to the types of girls who are telling you these things. Are most of them P4P, or so called regular girls that you meet on websites? Do you get the impression they feel gringos are easy marks for the most part? Do you think they are expert liars and can fake love that well? What do you other boys think about all this? Would be interested in hearing from David and other vets their thoughts on this.

I like latinas alot, definitely my favorite. I wouldnt mind finding a good one and calming down this lifestyle, but then again, I remember a guy telling me to just find a nice girl and keep visiting here and keep her down there. That doesnt equal alot of face time with work and all and only so much vacation. Wonder how long a girl would put up with that type of deal, or if she would just find someone else and also see you when your in town? It would seem hard to me to keep it secret when the dude shows up and expects all her time......

The think about this girl I met, is she gave me the password to her hotmail and yahoo accounts and showed me the first time I ask her about it without hesitation. Maybe she had already fixed it but she didnt seem worried about receiving any emails every time we would go to the cafe to have a look. She was willing to do just about anything to convince me, but I guess I am still not convinced and probably wont be knowing me.

Any thoughts or advice appreciated fellas.

Later

Milkster

[Screwed Up]

Mikster,

Well, I was not insinuating that you were being played.

All I ment was that most if not all of these girls fuck around behind your back.

It has nothing to do with being gringo or peruano.

They just like to keep their options open.

And as we like 2-3 girls more than just 1, so do they.

When I started to treat my chicks more like friends (that I fuck) by telling them that I fuck around and have no intention to stop, they started to open up. And up came the stories about fucking this and that guy, even while they are "dating" me.

I tell them I go to nightclubs, *****houses and they tell me when they meet a new foreigner and how things go.

Maybe I meet the wrong chicks, but I end up with chicks fucking me for free while they are supposed to be hardcore prostitutes and I see them drawing money from the ATM with the VISA credit card of their 10 years older boyfriend and they show me pictures of their holidays together. But they always say that they do love him...
I doesn´t seem to matter the latin concept is: lo que el mente no sabe, corazon no siente.

People like you keep telling me "Believe it or not, there are women who actually have feelings and want to fall in love with a guy". Well, I´m trying to believe that, buddy, but it´s damn hard at times.

Well, I would never ever do that with pictures. But I can´t blame you for thinking that. After all we never met. I´ll be back in South America too around May (Colombia and Peru, I think). I´m in Colombia now but will be heading to the USA and Europe at the end of this month to fix some stuff.

Maybe we can hang out together then?

[Mikster]

hey screwed up,

i finally got around to reading your post as to the girl "gray" that i met on cybercupido. i am not exactly sure where you are coming from, but you can believe me when i tell you that i am not a guy who gets "played." just the opposite. you will never meet a more jaded and cynical guy as i am. i dont believe anything when it comes to chicas until i am totally convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, which takes some doing. having said that, you can also believe that not every single girl who puts her photo on a dating website is a ****, *****, or out to use a gringo. believe it or not, there are women who actually have feelings and want to fall in love with a guy, whether gringo or peruano. i know the first intinct very well, dont believe anything, but you have to keep an open mind.

as to the girl gray. she didnt play me, i dont give up cash, gifts, or other such nonsense for just about any girl. i pay when i want to get fucked, and sometimes even manage to get a ***** for free. (see earlier posting.) when i meet a regular girl who i can confirm is not a *****, then i go the regular courting route, but i still dont give up the dinero just because she is a nice girl. they have to earn it before they get much more than dinner and a few drinks at a decent, but not expensive, restaurant. yeah, i suppose your still paying for it in a sense, but its not the same.

i didnt sent you her photos because i know you are in to the porn sites and i dont make a habit of sending peoples photos to just anyone without their permission. its amazing what people can do with a simple bikini photo. they take and the next day she is sucking some guys cock. jijiji not saying you would to that but its best to be prudent. this girl was from a nice family and lived in an apartment with her parents that is nicer than mine. a real sweetheart, she had me smitten within three days.

i suppose the real reason i was smitten with her was because when i finally got her clothes off it was one of the best pieces of ass i have ever had. so sweet and hot. 23 years old and looked like she was 16. i swear it was like fucking an **** girl. thats not my thing, but if they look that old then all the more power to me, as long as they are old enough. visit the filipino board to hear stories of guys with young girl fetishes. some of those guys need to be shot but thats another story.

well, i never did a decent trip report but i will get around to it. i tried to go to the trocadero but the ended up at las cucardas instead. i dont think the taxi driver wanted to go that far and probably figured i was a dumbass gringo who wouldnt notice the difference. i guess i really didnt care after we got there because it was so fucking hot i just wanted to get out of the taxi. i was taken aback at first by the amount for security standing outside. three well armed cops and a couple bouncers inside. actually, it made me feel good because if the cops are there, then i would imagine theres nothing to worry about. i spent about five hours there, fucked three chicks in between getting drunk. the price for a drink is exhorbitant compared to buying one in a supermarked but when you get in the *****mongering spirit it doesnt seem to matter so much. i was also surprised by the number of girls who were from different countries. i fucked one from ecuador, one from cali, and on peruana. all in all, a great day of drinking, sucking and fucking. what more could a man want?

more later. keep those cocks hanging boys. cant wait to get back in may.

milkster

[Screwed Up]

I am trying to learn some Spanish as quick as I can…..do you think it is possible to learn enough to get buy in 3 weeks?

Spend all your free time watching movies with Spanish subtitles on.

Read and read those subtitles while listening to the DVD in your native language.
Which DVD does´t offer Spanish subtitles nowadays?

That´s how I learned all my Spanish: going to the movies three times a week and reading. I never ever opened a book or followed lessons.

[Siam Beach]

Thanks, David. I like beach life as much as mongering at my age (50+).

I'm at a surfer hotel for one week in San Bartolo. I can wait til Cuzco for mongering, I guess. Thanks for the info.

Siam Beach