FKK World - Giessen

[Ortos]

IseeU: Very, very well-said, my friend. Your post about Cordelia and Shiatsu's unique perspectives were indeed poigniant and important. I agree entirely and I think alot of us do too...Thanks for that!

Cordelia: You are a star! So just accept it and keep on doing your thing! Interesting to imagine your mind-set swing as you go from your "World persona" to your "Beverly persona." From SP to Monger yourself. Tell me does Berverly get your juices flowing more than World, or vica-versa?

Toscana: Too bad that Prague didn't pan out. I tell you: that place has changed alot since, say, 5 years ago. And after mongering enviornments like World, Oase and Palace, which you know too well and are too freshly embedded in you, Prague 2005 would predictably come up short in comparison. I guess you would agree with thopse that say there's no beating FKK...Ja?

Ortos

[Toscana]

Just got back from "hunting and gathering" in Prague (not very successfully, as it happens), so I've just started catching up on the boards.

I can only echo Iseeu's words on Cordelia. Nothing but admiration for her guts to make a success of her stays at World, and that without very much German at all to start with.

And Shiatsu mentioned Cheyenne. She is on a very short list of girls I will repeat with if I get a chance, at this or any other FKK. A very nice person, and an impressive programme in the room. I suggest taking the hour option up front and submitting completely to her charms :-) (Incidentally it was Cordelia who gave me the tip, as far as her personality was concerned).

[Optimist]

Peter.

I will try to answer but can't be definitive. The club does make it possible for the girl guests to be tested by a doctor who visits every so often. I am not sure what would happen if a girl did not get tested by that doctor or her own doctor - I think she would probably be made most unwelcome in the same way as a male guest who is very drunk would be asked to leave. Similarly I would guess that a girl who was known to be infected would be made unwelcome and asked to leave.

This is all a sign that the club tries to ensure that everybody visiting the club behaves properly. So far as I am concerned I am completely independent and visit the club as a female guest

I have had to word my reply cautiously so that I do not imply that the legal situation at FKKs is other than it is. As you know, at FKKs the girls are all guests just like the men

[Peter]

Cordelia,

Maybe you can finally answer one question that a lot of firsttime FKK users keep on asking. Is there any form of STD testing done or mandatory at world?

That is not asking you to cross the boundary, it would just finally clear up some stuff here.

[Optimist]

Cordelia writes - Iseeu. Thank you for your very kind comments. It was great to spend some time with you. You point up the unique nature of my position nicely. Unfortunately I have been unable to straddle the fence (?!) as some visitors expect me to give the low-down on other girls and dish the dirt on the club and won't believe it when I say I know of no dirt. And in addition it is hard when visiting mongers seem to forget that I am actually also a sp when I am at World. However there have been many honourable exceptions - and appreciation to all those.

What I can say is that I now am developing a large regular clientele and that the horrible men are now very few and far between. The ones I met at the beginning were those few who preyed on the inexperienced. Although I did recently have one man follow me round for hours on and off saying he wanted to go with nobody but me - but only if I did it without a condom (eventually I got rid of him). Most guests are friendly, interesting and enjoy good sex - so what more could I want? The one thing that I have learnt is that the range of clients' sexual tastes is exceptionally varied - but that once they are in the room with me, things always turn out nicely (with only one or two exceptions)

By the way, we intend to be off to Beverly again in about six weeks, where I guess I am back in monger mode. Maybe see you there. Went a couple of days ago and will report asap.

Take care

Cordelia

[Iseeu]

"I only mention Cordelia as she is my wife and obviously relevant to me. ... There are generally no posters from either this or the Roemerforum - there were some many months ago but they were very circumspect as they were inhibited by me reading them."

I believe that those of us who had the pleasure to spend time with Cordelia, were circumspect not out of fear of the wrath of Shiatsu, but rather due to our general fondness and respect for Cordelia...It is very difficult to dissect and analzye in the same way as we would to with a one-time only P4P acquaintance.

Cordelia is very relevant for all of us as she has gone where no other monger has gone before and crossed to the other side as real sp. Her (and Shiatu's) unique perspective as someone who puts in those long couch hours, learnt the sales pitch, trades notes with the others, learns the likes, dislikes and whims of the paying clientele, and befriends the other sp is invaluable and one of the most amazing upredictable outcomes, of our otherwise often inane chatter here.

S&C, can't wait till you open up your garden for some fun. But what will you do with the sheep?LOL

[Optimist]

Novize - According to the promotion only the 975E card was timelimited to one month. The other ones were (I thought) not time limited. That is why I only mentioned the 260 and 475 cards - which were onthe basis of number of visits not time period

Chivaz - yes you are right Janette used to get poor reports, but now I have heard better. I know that she enjoys two-girl sessions. Unfortunately I will not be able to give a firsthand experience! Definitely no Jana or Andrea.

Harry Dude - sorry, I only mention Cordelia as she is my wife and obviously relevant to me. She is not the normal type to appeal to most forum members - and the fact that we are married sort of puts her offlimits for some people (it's like the same as why I am offlimits in reverse) She is British, and spends time there intermittently. Blonde, slim, fit, cup A, older than the average. Has a good, 95% German, clientele. There are generally no posters from either this or the Roemerforum - there were some many months ago but they were very circumspect as they were inhibited by me reading them

[Henio]

Nice to hear from you again Novize, been getting worried about you since your regular Sunday reports have not been coming in lately ;-)

Shiatsu, you mention "Janette (if you click with her)" as a good providor. I have thought about going with her every visit for the last year and a half, but never went as I always felt her approach being rather direct and cold. She always greets me with "want to go to room for sex?" and I have trouble having some conversation with her other than about if I want to go to room or not. Guess I am one of those that do not click much with her. About a year ago, I remember some dissapointing reports of her, but lately, reports have been positive about her so I might reconsider next visit as I think her body is smoking hot.

Any news of Jana or Andrea?

Chivaz

[Novize]

New Pricing Structure. You can buy a variety of advance payment cards. 260 for 5 visits, 475 for 10 visits etc. This is a substantial discount. (This prepayment also gives a free beer on party occasions)

During a discussion in the german Römerforum it was pointed out these reduced entry cards would be valid for one month only. You´d have to be a real hardcore-visitor to spend ten days a month at World.

I don´t know if the information given on the Römerforum is true, but this would reduce the discounts received with new Bonus Cards significantly.

I asked for details at World via e-mail, but didn´t get a response so far (OK, I asked this eveneing, so I should give them some more time... )

I´ll post the answer as soon as I´ve received it...

Have fun,

Novize

[Harry Dude]

I've been through pages of reports but I am still unable to figure out who this Cordelia is - what exactly does she look like? Just curious. I stop by World once every 2 months or so and I should know a few of the regulars.

[Optimist]

Do you remember there was a discussion some months ago about which member had most FKK girls in their garden shed etc?. Well I now have a list of girls who said they want to stay at my house, as all of Cordelia’s friends think staying in England must be marvellous.. Before you get carried away with this idyllic life, I have to point out that being Cordelia’s friends means that they will in no way go with me, never, This is because for the girls their friendships with each other are more important than the men who visit (including me). This is understandable since they rely on their colleagues for the camaraderie to survive the long days. Of course none will actually come.

This odd situation for me has some advantages as I am sort of almost family. For example I can hear about what some girls fancy and what they do!!. Graphic descriptions! I get to hear that (to my total surprise) certain girls had genuinely fancied me (but of course will no longer come near me apart from to exchange friend type conversations).

This does leave many other girls and I did manage to go with a very limited number.

Before I mention them, I want to say that the ones who are Cordelia’s friends and who won’t go with me are all old style workers – in other words you get your full time, they are intelligent enough to talk or nice enough to massage, and they offer good sex I can recommend Daniella (who needs no recommendation from me). Stella, Janette (if you click with her) and Cheyenne.

Cheyenne, ex –Atlantis, French, blonde, often wears nipple jewellry was wonderful. We had intelligent conversation (well I thought it was). She is lively and amusing and has a very fit slim body. She has chic and style which only one or two other workers have. Once I told her I was Cordelia’s man she refused to go with me so I cannot report on her performance – but I do remember Toscana has already reported that she was wonderful.

Denisa from Hungary. Young, slim , straight brown hair with a fringe. She has just started and has the makings of a top class worker if she develops her initial attitude, She is willing to talk before going to a room, kisses enthusiastically and is generally very nice. However she got me out of the room in 25 minutes, so I have some doubt as to whether she will develop the right attitude, or whether she will develop a mercenary approach as time goes on

Helga is Denisa’s friend. A little older and slightly less slim. Dark brown hair. More mercenary, Tried selling anal for 150 even before we got to a room. Quick with the under the towel technique for which I am a total sucker. Perfectly adequate enthusiatic service but I felt her concern to earn was weighing too heavily

[Optimist]

New Pricing Structure. You can buy a variety of advance payment cards. 260 for 5 visits, 475 for 10 visits etc. This is a substantial discount. (This prepayment also gives a free beer on party occasions)

I spent two days there recently and came away with the following impressions

1. The facilities were as excellent and clean as ever. Spotless saumas, steambath, comfortable sofas, and a nice downstairs bar

2. The food has improved. (Still not exactly up to survival level for a vegetarian but better for a carnivore). Basically meat, vegetable and soup

3. There was a surplus of girls over men of between 4 to 1 to 12 to 1.

4. The range of girls was very wide. There is an influx of young girls from Hungary, some of the Rumanian girls have come back, and there is a welcome addition of girls from West European countries.

5. The attitude of the girls seems to have improved overall, No more large groups of sour faced Rumanian novices picking their noses and feet. Instead some friendly but non-aggressive contact.

6. The atmosphere was back to the friendly laid back approach of World several months ago. There seems to be a core of regular experienced workers which has helped lift the spirit of the place – the old–style Atlantis type providers. These are the ones who will talk to clients and not just expect a chant of “want to go to room?” and their extreme youth to attract clients into a session with no real human contact or even good sex. Some of the new workers may be as good but it is a question of finding a needle in a haystack – some other forum members may be able to find the needle more easily as I know I only tried a couple of them (report to follow)

[Novize]

The place seems to get better again. I´ve visited the place yesterday, a report will follow within the next days. I saw approx. 50 women working, "tested" four of them and left the place absolutely satisfied.

Providers from Germany, EE, South America and Asia - there should be something for everyone´s taste...

Have fun,

Novize

[Euro100]

I know this is supposed to be about sex and not golf, but here are a few more infos:

1. Good courses around Frankfurt:
- Hanau (hosted the German senior open, all fairways are through old forests)
- Koenigstein (one of the ritziest setups, with the course layout around a magnificient old castle; but all holes are very short)
- Limburg (has hosted a Senior PGA type event, hilly, fun)
- Dortelweil, Bad Vilbel (new course, some water in play)

2. Should you bring your own clubs: Yes, definitely. Club rental can be very expensive, and you sometimes get rutty old sticks.

3. There is an excellent website to let you find golf courses in Germany: http://www.golf.de/golffuehrer/frameload.cfm

euro

[Fkk Lover]

Hoo Boy! I'll try not to stray too far OT, but if we can talk about lodging near Giessen, we can talk about golf courses around there too, right?

I won't comment any farther on the sex vs. golf topic other than echo what's been said about having only so much fluid before the gauge reads "empty." Truth is, I'll have 10 full days there (8th - 18th October) and there's no way I'm gonna be able to keep up a 4 sessions a day pace unless I have a break or 2. There's also a course right next to Cocoon in Wuppertal, anybody know anything about that 1?

Great info on the need for proof of handy E100. I'll make sure to have my USGA Index Card in my wallet b4 I depart. Will anybody be around those days so we can hook up for a round followed by a FKKW visit? That would be a blast!!!

I got 1 question and maybe a proposition. Initially I thought there's no way I'm going to lug my clubs around half-way around the world just for a couple of rounds of golf... though I do it quite frequently here in the US. So I assume these courses have some decent clubs I can rent?

But on 2nd thought, I know that popular clubs from American clubmakers are expensive in Germany and the UK with all those VAT taxes tacked on, and I'm a bit of an equipment ***** (ok, bad choice of words on this forum). So if any monger-golfers might be around on the days of my visit, I might as well offer to sneak in my bag a couple of drivers... maybe a Taylor Made R5, Ping G2, Titleist 905, or a putter or 2... Odyssey, Scotty Cameron, I'd be more than happy to sell them for however much I paid for them. If anybody is interested, PM me some precise specs of what you want and I can look up how much I can buy them for. Otherwise I'll abandon having to pack my clubs.

Yay!

FKKL