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11-22-05 00:24 #1059
Posts: 8Surfer con't.
Sorry, I hit return or something without meaning to. Anyway, I must also admit that one of the great things about latinas is that there are more than a few who do in fact want to be with older guys, which will be my MO should I remain single for another 10-15 years, though I plan to relocate to S.A. next year and doubt I'll be able to hold out. And as far as understanding what makes them tick, I have the rest of my life to solve that quandary.
The economics issue is definitely a factor, which is why some español will help you better penetrate people and perceive any ulterior motives, not to mention save you a lot of money, whether in a taxi, club, bar, burdel. I know that when I was living and working in Central America, there were plenty of chicas who looked at Americans as if they had the word 'VISA' on their forehead. Some of these girls are real sly and have obviously been playing the game for a while. (I know soldiers who were stationed at Comayaguela in Honduras who married natives then got ditched as soon as everything was legal and they were here in the US.) On the other hand, many of them couldn't be happier with a gringo, especially since we come from a society that protects women and observes their myriad rights, unlike many latin countries, and most of the latinas I've met who have had the chance to be with a foreigner admit that gringos are better in the sack. I will say that in Colombia there were plenty of gold diggers, especially since going 'mojado' (wetback) isn't an option due to geography. Actually, almost no one understood me when I used that term. For them, marriage is the best option to get a ticket out, more so when obtaining a visa to Europe or the US is extremely difficult and not cheap. Though if these dudes keep overpaying, they'll end up decreasing the number of women looking to leave as all those dollars tend to liberate and empower. Antes que te cases mira lo que haces.
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11-21-05 23:24 #1058
Posts: 1194You Call LB "Cheap" Because he Objects to Your Spamming?
Again, taking cheap shots at LB because he calls Spam spam is out of line.
Peter and I have reached detente after I called him on his unjustified attack on LB for a similar "offense" , and I seek no flame war with you.
YOU need a guide to lead you by the hand, more power to you (and the tout you hire). And if Jackson wants to allow people to post testimonials for their touts here, OK. But IMHO you should mention your Luis (or ANY other tout) ONCE and ONLY once. After that it IS spamming which should be sequestered in its own folder (like Peter in BAQ or Medellin Mansion).
Alachingada: EXCELLENT post. Fortunately, you are incorrect in your skepticism about the viability of relationships between younger Colombianas and older men (ambos nativo and extranjero). I have a WAYS to go until 50, but I can say that MANY Colombianas genuinely prefer 30 or 40 somethings to guys in their 20s. While economics cannot be discounted entirely, it is also a mistake to assume that it is nothing more than economics at play. No offense, but IMHO it takes YEARS of interacting with women before you can even begin to understand what makes them tick. Lord knows I still have MANY years before I will attain that capability.
I cannot compare Colombia for a 20something as my first trip was at 40. There is no doubt there are some hotties I might have scored back when I was 25 and lean as could be that would not be interested now. At the same time, there are LOTS of hotties who I COULD bond with now that I never could have when I was in my 20s.
Finally, your point about being able to communicate is KEY; while many WSGers cannot become 20 again, nor can they get into shape such that girls would be attracted to them BECAUSE they are acuerpado, ANYBODY, no matter how old or fat, CAN learn enough Spanish to communicate at a basic level. Those who refuse to try should really go to the DR, Thailand or the PI instead as I think they will enjoy it more than Colombia.
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11-21-05 19:08 #1057
Posts: 89just trying like peter.. lima busy..
or medellin mansion.. luis is a person that can answer any questions regarding the region.. let me guess lima busy. you speak spanish .. some people don't.. have a beer w/ the guy and pick his brain for good tips... are you hearing me lima busy,... so as far as pusing touts..yes if the guy is good for my needs. really think lima busy your cheap ass person..everything cheap in colombia. studio apartment 200 u.s w/ all ..month. yes thats a fact here in Armenia, luis is easy to talk to on the phone. english perfect.. educated . family man. he translate for my ladyfriend.. great for me . if you to chat w/ luis in Armeina. contact me. i have a guy in Cali now meeting Luis, He had good vibes on the phone w/ him. . any thing else lima buy ill be happy to answer your questions on the phone regardig pusing touts..,try paying small fee for servie provided.. , as my dear friend bob marley told me.. dont worry be happy in colombia... ch5cas are fun here.. just need a l6cal to show you the ropes
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11-21-05 16:11 #1056
Posts: 1233Spam!
Lost in Paradise, Why is it all your posts sound like advertisements for one tout or another?
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11-21-05 15:42 #1055
Posts: 89skip cartgena Armenia is the best kept secret for
lovely ladies.. if you do decide to visit my friend luis lives here [english teacher here ].. contact me for his ph.#... Enjoys meeting gringos.. can arrange apartment rental for 3 people. cheap per person on nice place for chicas to enjoy, 24 hour security good location.. the best for cheaper then lousey hotel.. , . everything here to enjoy cheaper then Cartagena or barranquilla ,,. no beaches just rainforest, montains. beaver hunting at his best,,.
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11-21-05 07:16 #1054
Posts: 1493Ditto what he just said.
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11-21-05 06:23 #1053
Posts: 155Has To Be One Of The Best!
Originally Posted by Alachingada
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11-21-05 04:30 #1052
Posts: 110Little Saigon
Here in the USA I have been looking for the Vietnamese locals in an area that they call "Little Saigon." Your chances are 1 in a million of ever getting a cute younger girl to go out with you there. I have been trying for 1 month now. Thought that I was getting close once, but the person was just "being polite" by smiling and talking to me and there was no chance. It may be different in Colombia.
I did try a couple of agencies in Colombia but no luck except for some major gold diggers. They were pretty obvious asking for English classes before I ever got there to meet them or telling me that they would only go with me in the daytime but never at night. Still looking for those Colombiana stunners that all of the guys are talking about.
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11-20-05 21:45 #1051
Posts: 8I'm hip to your groove John05
I didn't mean to diss any of the older guys, especially since I know many of them are swimming in vag down there and putting out the vibe like the yutes. You are correct in assuming I don't have much trouble getting in like Flynn up here, but it is because of this that 1, I only pay for it down there if I REALLY like the girl and 2, I look for the girls who want more than a session with a time limit. Though being able to chat with these chicks and make them open up often compels me to give even the non-pros a little something, as they often have life stories that break your heart, but alas that is my experience with manifold women across southern latitudes. Of course they embellish, and of course you know that half of those who claim to be students are pajeras, but that's all part of the game - the guys lie about their age, they lie about how long they've been slinging culo and studying at the U. Anyway, I meant no offense. I do however find it difficult to fathom the experience of an age gap, say, between a 50 year old gringo and a 25 year old colombiana, which is only compounded by the cultural differences, though if it's strictly sex then who gives a shit? Though I agree with Rufus that many girls do indeed look for older guys, father figures if you will. Just check out Amigos.com or Adultfriendfinder and you'll see girls in their early 20s looking for guys 30-40. And for los ricos pues el dinero todo lo puede.
Cada perico a su estaca.
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11-20-05 21:13 #1050
Posts: 92the different rules of Colombia...
john05, in a lot of cases the age difference is a better factor in getting it for free in colombia. i am 43 and my last trip to colombia i was asked out by a 15 yr old and her tias in their 30’s where within ear shot and didn’t even bat an eye and they all knew my age. before i get flamed as a ****, i declined the offer graciously but that is just a small example of how some latinas like older men.
i have some platonic amigas in colombia as well and they have told me that in a lot of cases that a colombiana is attracted to an older man not because of financial gain but for his life experience. they feel that an older man can teach them many thing of life that they might learn from and they find he is more interesting than the 25-30yr old male. this attitude transcends all social classes in colombia.
the exception is some of the older women 45+ sometimes look for the younger man for an affair. i think they call it “comir pollo” or something like that… lol.
so my advice to the 40+ guys going to colombia is dress well, use a nice aftershave and most importantly be confident. as one amiga put it a 40+ man is a trophy to a young woman in colombia.
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11-20-05 20:40 #1049
Posts: 110Really
Originally Posted by Alachingada
So you can have pretty much any girl in Colombia? Really? Well if you can have the non pros for free...why not? IMHO, in your 20s you should be able to get free pussy in the USA or any other country. You are young and in good shape. That is enough. Try it when you are 50. You will see the difference my friend. BTW, if I lie about my age many of the girls will go with me for free, but if I tell them that I am 49...forget it. Being in your 20s is priceless. Get as much as you can because you will never be able to go back. It is like being under 18 years old. You can't repeat those days sir. One exception is if you are filthy RICH. Then, you can be 50 and still have hot girls.
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11-20-05 16:38 #1048
Posts: 349Travel Fun,
Thanks for reporting and glad you had a great time in Colombia. Colombianas are really something special.
I have to agree with what the others are saying about overpaying. I've sometimes paid 10% or 15% above market just to seal a deal. But please don't overpay by too much more than that.
Here's a post by Capt Dave on the Argentina forum, which I think is food for thought. Especially the last sentence.
Originally Posted by Capt Dave
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11-20-05 13:35 #1047
Posts: 2874corectisimo
Hey you dudes are absolutely corecto!
In a nutshell ... sure these chicas will take whatever money you throw at them ... and you will be forever "el gringo bobo que tiene mucha plata".
As LP and the Rufus were saying though ... when you talk to them, bond with them, become friends or more .... they will show you the LOVE ... pro or non-pro alike.
Disfruten las Colombianas ... son bellas.
Yo voy a Venezuela hoy ... son bellas tambien!
Suerte!
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11-20-05 12:28 #1046
Posts: 383I'm No Cheap Charlie Rufus Trust Me!
Rufus, It is true that my girl did pay for her own Airline Ticket From BAQ to San Andres, but yes I will eventually pay off her Credit Card. Hell this is my fifth trip to Colombia and I always bring a suitcase filled with goodies.
I have always been an advocate of why pay more! My Novia and her friends have seen Gringo's come to Colombia and thay all have said the FIRST mistake we make is opening up our wallets, be it to a pro or non-pro!
The reason why I bring up the fact that this young lady reaches in her own pocket, just absolutely blows my mind, and of course I get a little bragging rights.
Rufus, your 100% right if you learn the language a bit more and take the time to understand the culture, and for whatever reason the woman come after you!
From what I understand if a person makes $800,000 Colombia they are doing pretty good, hell she even has a Master Card.
One point that you hinted on was that we gringo's have so much and they have so little, I'm not really sure about that one! From a material stand point sure compared to our neighbors in the south we are loaded, but from a happiest level who is to say, anyhow I'm getting way off track here!
Besides the forum I use this as a scale on how much to pay, I pay a girl what I pay for my room! In CTG my average cost for a room is $50 In Cancun it is $125 In Thailand it is $20 In Lima $20.
This subject will never die! To my American Gringo friends living here and abroad, have a happy turkey day. And to the rest of ya have a great Holiday and be safe!
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11-20-05 09:15 #1045
Posts: 92por que paga mas...
I was one of the ones to make a comment about Travel Fun’s over paying but no means do I intend to slight him for it. Why do we pay more and I am guilty of it too but not by the same amount and certainly not anymore.
My take on LP’s Q… por que paga mas? Sometimes I think it’s a westernized/gringo guilt thing and these chicas can be so damn good at their jobs we just can’t so no to the high prices. We feel that we have so much and they have so little. Maybe that’s it?
But let’s keep things in perspective, LP from what I understand your girl is not a pro but an average Colombiana working one of the low paying shitty jobs. I think you would have no qualms paying for the whole trip to San Andres Island. Heck I’d do the same and there was a time I’d do the same for a puta too. But now after a few trips to Colombia and improving my Spanish I don’t even go to the casa de putas anymore. It’s difficult enough to find the time to shag the ones that want to shag me. That’s not bragging it’s just the way it is there when you live there for a few months at a time.
As it has been said over and over there is no need to pay more for the service and I am glad to see others know first had as well that these chicas/putas/pre-pagos laugh and talk about the gringo bobo that has just handed over $300K COP that they have been giving it up for free to the hijeputa colombiano that has knocked them up for the umpteenth time… LOL
desfutar pagar mas pendejos… (bromar)