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  1. #63
    Please forgive me for this post having nothing to do with mongering.

    Does anyone have good suggestions for tasty restaurants to eat at on both sides of the border? I've been to NL probably 20 times, but have never found really good places at which to eat on either side of the border. I have been to Danny's on TX side, but have twice been treated badly as a gringo, no shit. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    Bobby

  2. #62

    Working Hours ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Muzikman
    And also I was curious do the women at BT set their own working hours. Say for example a woman from Montery that works every other weekend. I know that Asian working women are under contract. I guess what I am trying to say are the women freelancers while working in BT. As long as men buy the women drinks and pay for the room everyone is happy.

    This is my first post but I have been lurking this board a few months.
    First off, welcome to the board. Ok, the information I have is mainly for Papa's (Papagayo's) but something similar could be in place at the other clubs. No official contracts per se but girls that stay (actually sleep) in the Papa rooms are obligated to come out and at least look like they are working during the hours of operation. It makes sense, this way they work for the free room and board (they do not have to pay for the food served in the kitchen) and opens up the rooms for use by all us calientes. Girls living outside the club can make their own hours. The only exception is the party nights (Carnaval, Dies y Seis and Christmas Posada) when ALL girls must attend or be penalized a fee for non-attendance (I believe $300) the next time they come in to work.

    For Papa's, the club expects an exit fee ANYTIME a client (husband/official boyfriends are not clients and therefore the exception) sees a girl outside of the club (so don't be bragging in the club that you saw a girl during off-hours, save that for your buddies outside the club). Of course, seeing girls that live outside of the club it is much easier to avoid paying the exit fee but I have had friends that found ingenious ways to get around the fee with girls staying in the club. Hope this information helps.

    Dr Mier JMC

  3. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzikman
    It is funny how the women in BT get upset if you see another woman but it is OK for them to see other men.
    Their logic is that it's their work. You are there for sex, but they have to work, so seeing other guys is just work for them.

  4. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dihaji
    Well, I have known many girls from BTs and they work there own hours. They do not have contracts and can leave whenever they want, with the exception of certain bars that require them to pay a bar fine. But I have never really heard of anything that requires them to be there, like a contract or anything. Hmmmm.. maybe the next time someone from the board heads out, ask about this just to be sure. But the only thing I can imagine is maybe charging them xx amount of dollars upon there return if they do not go to work or something..

    I personally, have never known a girl in Danash.. to expensive for everything.. so I dont bother with it.. maybe they have contracts, because the majority of them are really good looking.

    Maybe I will call a friend of mine who works there and ask her when I get a chance, but I think she might be kinda pissed at me.. I told her that I made a new friend here in Houston, a girl from Honduras.. she did not seem to happy with the idea? I thought she and I were cool like that though.. guess not, we will see the next time I call her, maybe she will charge me the next time I see her.. lol.. now I am kinda anxious to find out!! =)

    Laterz,

    D
    Thanks for the info, like I mention before I was just curious because women in Japan, Korea and the Philippines are under contract and have to work everyday and can not take off whenever they want to.

    It is funny how the women in BT get upset if you see another woman but it is OK for them to see other men.

  5. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by chuggy1
    ok i tried the the local bars at the border no luck . so then on friday night went to btown and it was dead. i normally go to danash or club 123 to find me a jlo but both clubs were shut down due to the owners cashin bullets . so i took the boards advice and tried papa 'gs. there were no jlos big bootys but there were 3 salma hyaks/catherine zeta jones look alikes. tried the first one named lilly good time in the sack cbj. after her i wanted one of the others but they were to busy because out of the 15 girls there 3 were lookers, so i said lets try so girls at the doors . they were all dogs so i left. came back the next night found one of the other 2 lookers named savvanah this chica was awesome. she had rap music playingwhile we were bumpin uglys definate winner and a superfreak. all in all had an alright time but not as fun as it used to be when there were great lookin women mixed in everywhere.
    as i was about to leave bt this weekend, i took a peek in papa'g before i left. there was one lady who caught my eye and her name was lilly and she told me she was from mexico city. i belive she is the same one in your post. she was so pretty i had to buy her a couple of drinks before i left bt. i told her next time i am back in bt we will hook up.

  6. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Efremof2
    [fully agree]I agree with Bbond, BT is safer than the downtown bars, lots of bad element hanging in those bars, but I would not hesitate to visit either one. My suggestion is stay quiet, keep to yourself except when talking to chicas, don't flash money, or derss flashy. Stay in crowded places, walk with crowds, make use of taxis, and use common sense.

    I don't agree with Bbond that all the girls in the downtown bars are indies. I have met the part owner of Herradura, and when I (jokingly) asked if he had any better looking girls there that night, he went out and got me one. Brought me another one to my room at the motel Fiesta later that night. But certainly you've read that report Bbond.
    I spend more time in downtown bars than anywhere else and I agree with Bbond's comments. I have never met a girl downtown that was NOT an indie. Also, most of these girls "float" between 1 to 4 main bars each evening, meaning they may mainly be at Herradura, but you will also catch them in Montera, El Rey or the other bar across the street from the Herradura (on the same side as Montera). Basically, they are chasing business just like we are strolling searching for the best selection.

    I think what BabyHuey experienced is a bar owner or door guy who knows where groups of girls live or hang out. Especially in Herradura, there is a very good chance that one of these guys will run out and bring you back a very decent girl upon request. It's good for them as they are probably getting a tip from you, plus they are hitting the girl up for a tip. This is also true with some of the independent "guides" in the area. FYI, a lot of the girls live in the same building a mile or so away and since some of the guys that work at the Herradura rent rooms at the same building they always know where to look.

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzikman
    I am a regular visitor to BT and this weekend a taxi driver told me that the owner of Danash was killed at his home earlier this month and the club is now closed. Has anyone heard any other information about the murder?

    And also I was curious do the women at BT set their own working hours. Say for example a woman from Montery that works every other weekend. I know that Asian working women are under contract. I guess what I am trying to say are the women freelancers while working in BT. As long as men buy the women drinks and pay for the room everyone is happy.

    This is my first post but I have been lurking this board a few months.
    Well, I have known many girls from BTs and they work there own hours. They do not have contracts and can leave whenever they want, with the exception of certain bars that require them to pay a bar fine. But I have never really heard of anything that requires them to be there, like a contract or anything. Hmmmm.. maybe the next time someone from the board heads out, ask about this just to be sure. But the only thing I can imagine is maybe charging them xx amount of dollars upon there return if they do not go to work or something..

    I personally, have never known a girl in Danash.. to expensive for everything.. so I dont bother with it.. maybe they have contracts, because the majority of them are really good looking.

    Maybe I will call a friend of mine who works there and ask her when I get a chance, but I think she might be kinda pissed at me.. I told her that I made a new friend here in Houston, a girl from Honduras.. she did not seem to happy with the idea? I thought she and I were cool like that though.. guess not, we will see the next time I call her, maybe she will charge me the next time I see her.. lol.. now I am kinda anxious to find out!! =)

    Laterz,

    D

  8. #56

    went to boystown last weekend

    Ok I tried the the local bars at the border no luck . So then on friday night went to btown and it was dead. I normally go to danash or club 123 to find me a Jlo but both clubs were shut down due to the owners cashin bullets . So i took the boards advice and tried papa 'gs. There were no Jlos big bootys but there were 3 salma hyaks/catherine zeta jones look alikes. Tried the first one named lilly good time in the sack cbj. After her i wanted one of the others but they were to busy because out of the 15 girls there 3 were lookers, so i said lets try so girls at the doors . They were all dogs so I left. Came back the next night found one of the other 2 lookers named savvanah this chica was awesome. She had rap music playingwhile we were bumpin uglys definate winner and a superfreak. All in all had an alright time but not as fun as it used to be when there were great lookin women mixed in everywhere.

  9. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamminman
    (fined me$100)
    They did not fine you, they stole $100 from you, the only one that can fine you is a judge.

  10. #54

    Danash Closed!

    I am a regular visitor to BT and this weekend a taxi driver told me that the owner of Danash was killed at his home earlier this month and the club is now closed. Has anyone heard any other information about the murder?

    And also I was curious do the women at BT set their own working hours. Say for example a woman from Montery that works every other weekend. I know that Asian working women are under contract. I guess what I am trying to say are the women freelancers while working in BT. As long as men buy the women drinks and pay for the room everyone is happy.

    This is my first post but I have been lurking this board a few months.

  11. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by bbond
    Dihaji is correct. Your level of comfort will determine which feels safer for you.

    As BabyHuey said, I would not hesitate going either place.

    As I posted earlier, No place is 100% safe, not even your own home town.
    I don't like downtown at night. Normally it's Downtown in the day and BT at night.

    I feel safe in BT because the cops are checking almost everyone now and I know all the scams.

  12. #52

    BTNL Palm Sunday

    Well I've been to NL Boystown a few times but this is my first posting!--I was wondering if any of you pro-mongers know if BTNL is slow during the weekend of Friday April 7thru Palm Sunday the 9th? I remember going years ago and it was really dead the weekend of Easter.I still found a sweetie at Papas, but I met her in the parking lot outside. I think she lived there!The Donkey was on vacation!!! With all this talk of being afraid of going down there it kinda adds a level of excitement to the danger.

    I remember once getting dragged off to the jail cell for taking a picture of the taco stand near the taxis!!! They had me in there for more than an hour and I was really scared. The guards took my wallet(fined me$100)and left me with $15 which gave me enough money to have some tacos and buy one beer. I hid my cab fare back to the bridge in a money belt. Its weird even after that experience i feel this urge to go down there. i play music and I am around crazy places all the time but NLBT still is an exoctic atmosphere . From texas to New Mexico to California, what do you think would be the next best choice to monger?/By the way I appreciate all the good advice you fellows have offered about BT and NL.

  13. #51
    Dihaji is correct. Your level of comfort will determine which feels safer for you.

    As BabyHuey said, I would not hesitate going either place.

    As I posted earlier, No place is 100% safe, not even your own home town.

  14. #50

    Whats wrong with me??

    Damn, I must be missing something, everyone here mentions that the location in the downtown area's are bad and that the Zeta's hang out there.. etc. But I have never had any problems downtown. I have had some problems in BT's though..

    I did keep to myself and make sure I was aware of shady dudes walking my way. I have even asked some of the girls down there about the area, and have heard the same thing more then once. It safer then BT's.. even when I asked my friends from BT's, they told me the same thing, that BT's is becoming to dangerous and they are thinking about just leaving and heading back home possibly..

    And I have a lot of family that live there (NL/Laredo) also saying the same thing, becareful not to go to far in NL, stay by the border.. blah blah blah. But I personally have noticed more issue's in BT's. I have seen so much there.. but hey, I guess like any democracy, go with the majority.

    I am not saying that anyone is wrong, because everyone has there own experience. But based off of my own experience along with certain members in my own family that have mixed with the wrong groups in NL as well as the decent members of my family that work and live in NL/Laredo, I can definitly not agree with BT being safer then Downtown.

    I would suggest anyone going for the first time to go with the majority of what is writtin here on the board. I also stress that as long as you follow the simple rules of being courteous and keeping to yourself, with the exception of chicas, you are extremely safe and will have a really really good time.

    Laterz,

    D

    I really need to go, it has been almost 2 months give or take.

  15. #49
    Isn't Heradura a Zeta hangout? I'd definitely go to la Zona before centro. As somebody mentioned, there is a danger of getting caught in the crossfire and they have had firefights right there in downtown.

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