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[Aduka]

Guys,

I'm going to Singapore pretty soon. I've been following the thread quite religously for the past month or so. I go to singapore quite often. Normally I call the numbers in the classifieds and will pay between S200 to SGD 350 per shot. I know its too much but I was not informed. I also happen to like anal sex. Could any brothers offer me some advice or perhaps pass me some FL contacts. Should you need any help in KL, PM me.

Cheers.

[Teddy32]

For most of the girls from Thialand, Vietnam, China and Indonesia, they will get only a 1 month visa for their first or second visit. After that, they will only get 2 weeks.

The only nationalities that get 90 days are American's, Japanese, Austrailian's and Western European's.

If you come into Singapore togather with your girl friend, than there is a very good chance for her to get 30 days.

Greetings fellas,

Quick question regarding immigrasi. Am relocating to SIN and am hoping to occasionally import Indo GF. What sort of visa will she be eligible for? I hear all the OT types get 1-month stay, but the Singapore Immigration web site says residents of most countries are eligible for 90-day social visit stays. So whats the deal?

Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

khepher

[HappyChap]

In my time, I have learned the hard way. Many whom I have paid upfront have been good but there have been those that "ran" off before the time was up. Some even sneaked off while I dozed off.
So here is what i do.....if she insist that she wants money upfront, I say OK but conditional. I will take here dress and lock it up (you can do it without her knowing - while she is in the bath or it is an upfront agreement.

My experience tells me that most of the time those that ask for money upfront are poor performers and not relaxed enough to perform well.

I told myself never to never let them get away without a fair bargain....keeping her clothes eg her blouse is fair!!!!

Doubt she got offended by you using the safe. In my experience OT Viets always ask payment up front. Some positive Viet reports on here and would be nice to try one, but I've never got as far as taking one back. Up front money is alwasys a barrier. One night one cute Viet was keen and think personally she'd no problem trusting me to pay, but she stuck to her training.

Most OT girls don't need payment up front and generally girls are better with a little PRP. $150 + tip is a good counter to a $300 ask.

Pay up front=poor service in my experience. Resist.

The girls and their pimps / friends are better organised than us, spending a lot of time on pricing and negotiation...maybe we should do the same.

[Amp Man]

Having just been through a month-long visit there with my filipina wife, I did notice that I got a 90 day visa on entry while her's was limited to 30 days. I assume this means that people from other ASEAN countries are limited to the 30 days on entry but that those from the US, Europe, Japan, etc. get longer visas. Given the hundreds (or maybe thousands) of Malays flocking into Singapore every day, I guess this represents an attempt on the part of the Immigration authorities to ensure that they do not put a strain on the country's economy.



GE

You will find 30 is about the average for most ASEAN Pasports, My wife has been stamped longer in SIN a few times but I think it is just careless immigration. USA gets the 90 average in most countries. It is all part of the agrements between countries. Happy travels

[GoodEnough]

Having just been through a month-long visit there with my filipina wife, I did notice that I got a 90 day visa on entry while her's was limited to 30 days. I assume this means that people from other ASEAN countries are limited to the 30 days on entry but that those from the US, Europe, Japan, etc. get longer visas. Given the hundreds (or maybe thousands) of Malays flocking into Singapore every day, I guess this represents an attempt on the part of the Immigration authorities to ensure that they do not put a strain on the country's economy.



GE

[Khepher]

Greetings fellas,

Quick question regarding immigrasi. Am relocating to SIN and am hoping to occasionally import Indo GF. What sort of visa will she be eligible for? I hear all the OT types get 1-month stay, but the Singapore Immigration web site says residents of most countries are eligible for 90-day social visit stays. So whats the deal?

Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

khepher

[Blair]

Doubt she got offended by you using the safe. In my experience OT Viets always ask payment up front. Some positive Viet reports on here and would be nice to try one, but I've never got as far as taking one back. Up front money is alwasys a barrier. One night one cute Viet was keen and think personally she'd no problem trusting me to pay, but she stuck to her training.

Most OT girls don't need payment up front and generally girls are better with a little PRP. $150 + tip is a good counter to a $300 ask.

Pay up front=poor service in my experience. Resist.

The girls and their pimps / friends are better organised than us, spending a lot of time on pricing and negotiation...maybe we should do the same.

Pulled out a Viet girl that goes by the name of Mimi from OT last night. Once in the hotel she asked to get the money upfront. No way for me, but she wouldn't budge and I had to throw her out. She went off swearing. Reason might have been that I locked things in my safe while she was already there, so maybe she got offended? Anyway.

By the way, saw an absolutely stunning Columbian girl (long black hair) in OT, too. But she asked for 450 SGD at 2 AM. Got to go to Columbia some time.

[Fred Gold]

I usually post on the thai board.

I found some interesting material at this site. Has anyone had experience about meeting a "guide" on the friends list? Planning on making another visit soon, I hope!!! Some of the girls there are hot.
Thx Fred

[OzzieSuds]

I think the agents/managers/friends/pimps are all getting a bit greedy and brainwashing the girls before they go out to play.

Pulled out a Viet girl that goes by the name of Mimi from OT last night. Once in the hotel she asked to get the money upfront. No way for me, but she wouldn't budge and I had to throw her out. She went off swearing. Reason might have been that I locked things in my safe while she was already there, so maybe she got offended? Anyway.

By the way, saw an absolutely stunning Columbian girl (long black hair) in OT, too. But she asked for 450 SGD at 2 AM. Got to go to Columbia some time.

[Fredo24]

Pulled out a Viet girl that goes by the name of Mimi from OT last night. Once in the hotel she asked to get the money upfront. No way for me, but she wouldn't budge and I had to throw her out. She went off swearing. Reason might have been that I locked things in my safe while she was already there, so maybe she got offended? Anyway.

By the way, saw an absolutely stunning Columbian girl (long black hair) in OT, too. But she asked for 450 SGD at 2 AM. Got to go to Columbia some time.

[Ace Gallant]

I agree with Sudsoz on Joo Chiat. I am not sure if you can speak Chinese but most of the girls in Joo Chiat only speak Chinese and so if you are an English speaker than it will be tough. The way it works in Joo Chiat is differant than OT. The girls makes the round and sits with you for 10 or 20 minutes than than go to another table. They make money by earning tips. They will only go with you when the bar closes. It is an interesting experiance but I do recommend going with a local on your first trip.


Anyways good luck.

I was in town for a night and thought I try some area new. So I went down to Joo Chiat. As I lived in Singapore 10 years ago and occassional visits to Singapore in the recent years, I was suprised that the place was totally different from before.

Bars are manned by Philippines girls, MP with Chinese girls.

Pick up a duo (although they are not so willing to go as a duo)... went back to my hotel in Mandarin Marina. (I should try some of these little "Love Hotel" along Joo Chiat next time! They looks as good as those in Japan!)

I got to found out that one of the girl is a divorced working mama. Who had accompanied her 5 year old kid to Singapore for the education. The other is on a Tourist Visa which she had renew 2 times already and will be heading home next week.

In terms of service; the working mama seems to be working very hard! Which in turn was rewarded with extra tips from me. But I was a little disppointed when she told me she cannot do a LT as she have her kid back at home waiting for her. So i have to compromised by taking the other younger girl.

Although one is 25 working mama with a kid, and the other is a 21 year old girls somehow, the working mama seems to able to satisfy me much more that the 21 years old.

Well but overall I had a good time.

Details:

Working mama: Ah Hua
From China Fujian
Age: 25
Size: a little extra fats.
Skills: 8
Looks: 7
Price: S$100 ST (Don't do LT)
Tips: S$50
Can be found in the 2nd MP going down from Joo Chiat Place towards East coarst Road.

21 Years old girl: Sammi
Said she is from Shanghai but I doubt it as she do not know how to answer my Shanghai questions.
Age: 21
Size: Slim
Skills: 6
Looks: 6
Price : S$300 LT (Did not asked for ST)
Tips: None
She was hanging around the MP area and I picked her up while on the way to catch a taxi with WOrking Mama.

I am off to Australia and at Airport Lounge now....

Enjoy!
AG

[Draco]

I'm one of those who appreciates the assist of a little Cialis or Viagra. I prefer Cialis since it acts for a longer period, provided you've got about 45 minutes to wait for the effects to set it.

Anyway, anyone interested in some? PM me. 50mg Cialis (not 20!) for S$15.

[Liondale]

Hey guys,

I've been reading conflicting reports here about when it is too late to find a broad at Ipenama". I'm planning on arriving just past midnight on a weekday night, so by the time I get to the hotel and visit OT it will probably be close to 2.30 or 3.00 ( right ?) I'm being told at 3.00 AM you can still find qualtiy P**sy but then I have also read after midnight there's slim pick'ns. So could some one straighten this out for me? I'm actualy trying to go for a LT . If OT is not the place to be at that time where should I look at? Thanks for your help!

CC

There are still quite a lot of girls around at that time, but expect some of them to be there for their second round. Obviously the selection is better earlier in the night though.

[JXXXL]

Having frequented the OT bars for the past few years, I felt it necessary to share my comments about Top 5, the new nightclub on floor 4 that replaced Top 10. Well, this new club needs to change its operation quickly, or it will never realize it's real potential. I don't know for certain it's loosing money, but at 12 midnight the club should have more than 10-15 patrons. MANGEMENT - WAKE UP!

What are the issues?

- Very few freelancers enter the bar anymore. That in turn reduces the number of guys who come out for a good time.
- Constant pushing of shots - tequila, blow jobs, etc. The girls won't take no, even when I became rather insistent. And they come every couple of minutes. In 20 minutes, drinking one beer, I had at least 6 attempts. As soon as their tray was empty, they were at the bar to replenish supplies and harrass customers. I looked around and saw others obviously uncomfortable by the pushing. If you're going to sell them, teach the ladies how to make it fun and not to push.
- When my beer was at about 40% full, the servers started coming asking if I wanted another beer. Polite, but I had 3 or 4 people come up and ask me.
- Drink prices - $15 for a small beer, $20 for a pint?! Ok, you got one sale, but you need volume. Take the prices down.
- Cover charge - look at the other bars in OT. It's a big deterrant. The show isn't worth paying a cover.
- Hired dancers - there were 5 or 6 groups of guys - pairs or individuals that I saw. If one of the dancers wasn't already at a table with a drink, hell would've frozen over before a new customer was approached. Is that the model for success?

Take a look at the other bars in OT and consider why they are successful. They take a simple approach and take care of customers.
1. Have the servers walk around and let customers ask. Most will.
2. Focus on making sure customers have a good time and not on maximizing liquor and beer sales. We will buy if we're having a good time. Less hustling customers and more hustle.
3. Reduce the prices to get volume moving. 3 drinks at $13 is better than 1 drink at $18.
4. Circulate the dancers more. Sometimes they may be making a deal - and that's fine, but they were more intent on chatting with themselves than with customers.
5. Find a way to get Freelancers in the door and stay for more than 10 minutes. Queens has the same problem and uses a similar operating model as Top 5. I think I read they were owned by the same group.
6. The location is a drawback compared to Ipanema. Figure out how to increase traffic. Crazy Horse used to have ladies in good numbers and it would compliment Top 10. Now - there's only 1 reason for guys looking for ladies to go to the 4th floor.

I just moved back to Singapore and went to Top 5. What a disaster?

When I lived in Singapore before, Top 10 was my regular spot. We went out to lots of other bars, but almost always finished the night in Top 10. I spent thousands upon thousands of dollars, just like many of my expat friends. Top 10 had it's ups and downs, but the place was just so reliable for a good time.

Now, I don't know what happend to make the place close, but the owners of Top 5 should have stuck to the old formula. They clearly spent a ton of money on the place and they're gonna fall on thier face with the current business model.

If there are any investors out there, I think you should wait for the place to go under and take it over using the suggestions above.

And, most importantantly, bring back the old staff, they were great. Does anyone know what happend to Coco and Chu?

[Cloud Cloud]

Hey guys,

I've been reading conflicting reports here about when it is too late to find a broad at Ipenama". I'm planning on arriving just past midnight on a weekday night, so by the time I get to the hotel and visit OT it will probably be close to 2.30 or 3.00 ( right ?) I'm being told at 3.00 AM you can still find qualtiy P**sy but then I have also read after midnight there's slim pick'ns. So could some one straighten this out for me? I'm actualy trying to go for a LT . If OT is not the place to be at that time where should I look at? Thanks for your help!

CC