General Info

[Khushi39]

Hey Guys,

What are the "Must Do's" for Malaysia? The best places for our common hobby? How is the mongering activity on the resort islands? Any recommendations? Considering Malaysia or Thailand, been to Thailand a few times now want to try Malaysia. Please guide. Mongering, Golf, Beaches and general partying are the priorities.

[Sparhawk]

Bros, somebody has exposed one of the local forum so my advises to all, just try to be extra careful. Please read this report from NST on 24/05/07.

It was only a matter of time before sex among Malaysians went online. Today, there are several websites that ‘educate’ men on where to look for it besides providing information on the subject. The New Straits Times examines this rising phenomenon
The website with more than 10,000 members discusses anything related to the world’s oldest profession. Members’ posts are highly descriptive, documenting every detail of the sex act.

KUALA LUMPUR: A complete guide to prostitution and sex services in the country is flourishing online.

The innocuous opening page — showing two rice cookers, one open and the other closed — does not indicate the true contents of the website.

But once you enter it, the story takes a different turn.
One enters a world of men with only one thing on their mind: Sex.

The website, registered in the United States, contains reviews of prostitutes at massage parlours and tips on how to avoid sexually transmitted diseases.

Its 10,000 members discuss anything related to the world’s oldest profession,

With a tagline, "You Know How To Cheong Or Not?" (Cheong is Cantonese slang for having sex with a prostitute), the website shows where some men stand on sex for sale.

The website is exhaustive. It has a list of various massage parlours and hotels according to regions in the country that provide "extra" services.

It also contains "field reports", or FR for short, where members exchange ratings of prostitutes on a scale of one to 10.

Prostitutes are rated on their physical traits as well as services rendered.

Posts on the forum are often highly descriptive, documenting every detail of a sex act.

A system of abbreviations is used to describe sexual positions and physical attributes of the prostitute (see accompanying story).

There is a "thread" (a topic in a forum) on freelancers or FLs which may send shock waves throughout the nation; most of the FLs are university students who demand up to RM250 per session.

Participants on the forum also trade phone numbers of the girls they have visited.

Sometimes, pictures of prostitutes are exchanged.

Those who maintain the forum have thought of almost everything, including information on how to keep sexually transmitted diseases at bay, besides listing drugs that could be taken if one contracts such a disease.

Another thread titled "Health, Body & Safety" discusses STDs with testimonies from victims.

The forum users, a mixture of Malays, Chinese and Indians, refer to each other as "brother" in their postings.

The postings are in good English, often discussing current issues published in local English dailies. It appears that many of those using the forums are well-educated.

They have developed a strict protocol to protect their existence, which new members will find displayed on the starting page of the site.

No numbers are traded in the open forums to avoid what they dub the "MIB", or men in blue: Police officers.

Those who violate this "sacred’ rule are sent to the "sin bin" and barred from the forum.

What is most disturbing about the website is how easily it can be accessed.

Using information gathered from the forum, a New Straits Times reporter went undercover and visited a health spa at a hotel here.

Having read a step-by-step account of a post from a member, he asked for two girls who had come highly recommended by the website.

Although the girls were not free during the visit, a receptionist confirmed that the girls worked there.

The reporter was asked if he wanted to have a "full service" for RM200.



‘Never give up’ is motto of counter girl at health spa

IT was about 2.30pm when I arrived at the hotel.

I looked for the health spa that I had read about in a website.

The website had claimed that the establishment doubled as a brothel, a claim I was on my way to verify.

Instinct told me to check the lift for directions and, sure enough, the name of the spa was indicated on a floor.

As the lift door was closing, a woman in her mid-20s entered. She paid no attention to me as I spied her from the corner of my eye.

"Could she be a ...," I thought as the elevator opened at our destination and she walked out.

Shortly after, she disappeared into the spa through a door that had the sign "staff only" printed on it.

A young woman at the counter asked me to place my belongings in a metal drawer but looked surprised when I told her that I was not there for the spa facilities.

"A massage then?" she asked with a smile.

I looked around and saw that the waiting area next to the reception counter held about 20 men despite it being 3pm on a working day.

At this juncture, the receptionist asked if I wanted a massage with "full service".

Feigning ignorance, I asked what "full service" meant and got a stare in return. After a minute, she said: "You know, full service with a young pretty girl."

Remembering two names mentioned on the website, I asked if they were in and was told that one was off while the other had a client.

"But we have a lot of other pretty girls," she said.

As I pretended to think about it and then asked if I could have a massage, she said I would be attended to by older women "and no sex". As if on cue, two older women in tight black dresses walked out from behind a hidden sliding door near the counter. But the receptionist was not giving up on me.

As she insisted that I take the "full service", I started making an exit.

But the receptionist gave me a business card in case I wanted to make "bookings" for girls.

"Call on the morning of your visit and we can check if the girl you want is available. Just mention her name and we will do the rest," she said.

"What’s your name?" I said.

"Sir, I don’t ...," she said as I waved and walked out, never to return.



Would you like an FS with your Full Course?

MALAYSIANS frequenting forums on sex have created their own acronyms along the lines of abbreviations used in short messaging service texts.

There is CKT (char koay teow) for a Chinese prostitute, nasi lemak for a Malay lady of the night and chapatti, curry or tosai for an Indian working girl.

Ang Pai, from the Hokkien word which means red badge, indicates girls who are highly in demand.

Cheong, from the Cantonese word for "checkmate", refers to sleeping with a prostitute.

Chew Keng, from the Cantonese word for checking your reflection in the mirror, is used to describe the practice of prostitutes being paraded before the customers at brothels.

Damage means the price of sex, dino (dinosaur) equals prostitutes in their late 30s and 40s, and FS/FJ refers to full service/full job (sex).

FL is used for independent or part-time prostitutes, Full Course means massage followed by sex, and GFE for a prostitute who gives a "girlfriend-like experience".

GND is Girl Next Door look and HM stands for home minister (wife or live-in girlfriend).

MP means massage parlour and ML is massage lady.

YMMV is "your mileage may vary".

This means that one might experience a different result from that posted on the forum.

[Traveler1234]

Hey guys, having traveled to many Asian countries, May will be my first foray into KL/Malaysia. Can you tell me how you compare BKK, Manila and KL. What are advantages/disadvantages of Malaysia. Any MUST DO's, anything I should avoid (besides the obvious).

Thanks in advance!

1. Pay jackson to become full member so that you pm will work.
2. Read the FAQ, even though old, very accurate.
3. Use your pm to ask some senior resident experts for advice

[Miao28]

Now for a question for the rest of you KL gurus: I hadn't encountered the term "OKT" before reading this forum. Since then I found a site that suggests that the term is Hokkien ("oh kui tao") for someone who guards chickens. Google "Hokkien," "OKT," and "chickens" if you want to know where.

Can anyone confirm this or tell me more?

The word "keh" refer to a prostitute in Hokkien. 'Keh tau" would mean the head of the chicken or pimp, literally one who looks after the keh. The Cantonese equivalent would be "kei kung". "Oh Kui tao" would presumably mean head of the tortoise, which by deduction would mean the pimp.

Perhaps Hokkien speaking bros here would care to elaborate more.

[Yolk 1127]

condom = "tao"

orgasm = "gao zhao" = high tide

breast = "nai"

The correct pin yin for orgasm should be "gao chao"

Cheers

[Jackyung]

OKT stand for O Kuai Tao.Its in Hokkien which is one of dialect of chinese. It means pimp in chinese. But sometime people here use OKT as Captain who will guide you in your selection of girls in spa

[Gamma Ray 007]

Hey guys, having traveled to many Asian countries, May will be my first foray into KL/Malaysia. Can you tell me how you compare BKK, Manila and KL.

No offense, SC, but even an hour spent browsing the forum here will tell you everything you want to know! Are you asking one of the senior brothers to spend their day slaving over the keyboard boiling it all down for the benefit of us newbies? My humble suggestion: Read the last year or two of posts, then take a few for the team and post the results. Unless I'm mistaken, you've not turned in any field reports---let's see one from your time in KL, ok? And I'm sure you will have a great time--KL is wonderful. I still dream about it.

Now for a question for the rest of you KL gurus: I hadn't encountered the term "OKT" before reading this forum. Since then I found a site that suggests that the term is Hokkien ("oh kui tao") for someone who guards chickens. Google "Hokkien," "OKT," and "chickens" if you want to know where.

Can anyone confirm this or tell me more?

[Sir Charles]

Hey guys, having traveled to many Asian countries, May will be my first foray into KL/Malaysia. Can you tell me how you compare BKK, Manila and KL. What are advantages/disadvantages of Malaysia. Any MUST DO's, anything I should avoid (besides the obvious).

Thanks in advance!

[River]

condom = "tao"

orgasm = "gao zhao" = high tide

breast = "nai"

Examples:

1. "qing ni dai tao." = Please wear cap / condom.

2. "ni you gao zhao ma?" = Do you have orgasm.

3. " ni de nai heng mei, ke yi mo ma?" = your breast are beautiful, can feel or not?

[River]

Hello,

Can anyone give language lesson to a banana here?

What is Mandarin and Cantonese word for:

1. condom
2. orgasm
3. breast

condom = "tao"

orgasm = "gao zhao" = high tide

breast = "nai"

[StraightUp]

Hello,

Can anyone give language lesson to a banana here?

What is Mandarin and Cantonese word for:

1. condom
2. orgasm
3. breast

[StraightUp]

Hello,

I never been to HC/spa before so please enlighten me on some points. ( I did go through the whole KL thread)

If the HC is in a hotel, will they provide normal room rather a cubicle? Not sure if I can get into the mood if it's a small cubicle.

Also, can I just bypass their facilities, see girl parade and go straight to the deed? In this case I pay less right? (Actually, not mind to relax a bit first but not really want to face other fellow cheongers since I'm the self-consious type)

Also what is the usual time limit for package without massage?

Thanks for your advice.

[FreebieFan]

Im an expat here and although not single I am fortunate in my job to be able to spend some time chatting to normal women. Im even more happy to report that Ive been able to lure many of them into my car and then onto hotels. And yes it takes time and phone calls and sms and ocassional surprise gifts but Ive found no end of willing recipients. I like to make internet chat and have found it to be a great source of willing gf's.

Only one refused my "charms".. and later I realiised it was because she had done a google search of my former ISG name and had realised I was a player.

I dont get time to go to nightclubs and make pick ups and generally dont pay to play.

But Im not short of fun. This week for instance enjoyed a waitress in Bukit Bintang hotel one afternoon ( no cost).. then enjoyed my regular friend who has an aprtment near my office ( no cost).. tonight Im gonna see another student gal, who makes me pay, but as we meet in her apartment and have wine and pizza its like paying for a gf... thursday will see a very hot gal who is quite promiscuous but loves to give me bj in my car at no cost Theres a few more, but the concept is there. Theres lots of normal gals and they just need time and attention. This is not a normal week but theres so much out there.

And sorry guys Im not sharing. Im still being stalked by a mad women who went manic when I started sharing her number.

[Intransit]

Saturday, December 9, 2006
Nightclubs ban 'China dolls' in clampdown
BARADAN KUPPUSAMY in Kuala Lumpur
http://asia.scmp.com/asianews/ZZZB7NRSGVE.html

Signs are going up in Kuala Lumpur's popular Bukit Bintang area
telling young women from China to stay away.

The district is popular with tourists and shoppers, but it has
also gained a reputation as a red-light district as several
lawmakers this week described it as the "Patpong of Malaysia",
(referring to Bangkok's notorious district).

"China woman not admitted", reads one sign outside a nightclub
called Pink Heaven. Another sign at a nearby karaoke lounge
says: "No Women from China Allowed".

"The China dolls bring only trouble," said pub owner Allan Tan,
using a derogatory term that describes a Chinese sex worker.

"Anti-vice police are not far off, so are gangsters, pimps and
drug pushers."

Even seafood restaurants along the country's west coast fronting
the Strait of Malacca that were favourite places for elderly
businessmen to pick up an escort for the weekend are beginning
to refuse the "China dolls".

"It is easy to pick them out. They are tall and slim, dress
differently and speak with an accent. Their manners are also
polite compared to local Chinese women," said restaurant owner
Michael Lee.

Previously, they were welcomed because they had attracted big
spenders, but not any more. "We just don't want trouble with the
law," said Mr Lee.

Leading Chinese-language daily China Press reported that night
spot owners were even checking passports of the women to verify
their legal status before admitting them.

"Even Singaporean and Indonesian women are being turned away,"
the paper said, adding that accompanying males were asked to
sign documents at the entrance to "guarantee" their companions.

The reason for the sudden change in attitude is the tough action
police are taking to curb prostitution, crime and drug
trafficking. Night spots were raided and fined if they had a
woman without valid papers on their premises. Some outlets have
had their licences revoked.

"We can't arrest them unless they have overstayed," a police
spokesman said, adding that offenders were deported and
blacklisted from re-entering.

This week the government revealed in parliament that 15,500
foreign women were arrested for prostitution between 2004 and
July this year and nearly 62 per cent of those were from
China.But human rights workers say most of the women, usually
from southern provinces such as Fujian are trafficked by crime
syndicates and should be given support and protection not
penalised as prostitutes and criminals.

"It is the international syndicates that make the big money ...
most girls are exploited and return home broken and shattered,"
said Irene Fernandez, head of Tenaganita, an NGO that helps
migrant workers.

She blamed syndicates in China that place advertisements
offering ridiculously high salaries for jobs in factories as the
main attraction to be enticed to Malaysia.

"Their passports are taken away and they are slaves for their
owners, and when arrested they spend a few months in jail and
are deported," Dr Fernandez said. "They end up as statistics."

[Boy Boy88]

I will be dropping by KL this end month and be staying at Hotel Nova at Jalan Alor.

Any extras in the hotel and the surrounding areas?