Monterrey

[Member #3453]

lets get one thing straight...it was not me at the best western!!! verdad! hahahaha :-) i think it was somebody who arranged for an **** girl to come in there, and that was the crux of the scandal, right? please!!! mi dios!!! i was not there...it was not me!

but, i remember one time when i was there and...

i actually had made arrangements with three girls during the first part of the week to eventually meet me at the hotel. now, listen...

you know how the girls will ditch you, how they will not show up most of the time, and how most of the time they are unreliable, etc...

you know??? that's why paying the salidas is a valuable service, and a very reliable alternative. by paying the salida to the bar, you have them captured. you don't have to rely on the discipline level of a mexican bar girl to actually conduct your business. if you pay the salida, you have them in your clutches, at least for a while, and they aren't going to forget to show up, or give some bs excuse that their kid is sick and they can't come over, etc...

for a time, i was trying to avoid paying the salidas, and i decided that i would arrange to meet the girls outside the clubs on their off time. there is profitability is doing so because by avoiding the salida cost, 350 pesos per session, within a short period of only two bar fines, you have almost enough saved to pay for another session.

avoiding salidas works sometimes, but rarely, maybe only about 30% of the time at best. even if the girls are really good friends, even if they know you very well, even if they love you to death...no importa!!! mexican bar girls are too screwed-up to be disciplined enough to show up at the appointed time. they are generally extremely unreliable in their lives, not only in that respect, but in many other respects as well.

frankly, as a relatively mature male, i have made certain conclusions about women at this juncture that some may find disturbing. but, this actually illustrates how little women actually give a shit about sex. even when they are being paid an outrageous wage in comparison to their peers, peers that work their asses off in the mexican labor force, the girls still don't care that not only are they getting paid an outrageous wage for the short time they will have invested, but they are usually also getting the sexual enjoyment that we as males would undoubtedly provide for free were the shoe on the other foot.

oh, most women love sex in the moment...but, unless you have your tongue on their clits, or you are grinding into them with a fevered pitch, they are otherwise oblivious to the future anticipation for pleasure that sex otherwise brings for males. there is some statistic somewhere that we males think of sex every six minutes. i think there are women that can get by without thinking about sex, absolutely no sex, for literally months on end. some women have no contemplation for sex throughout their normal day, week, month...year? the lack thereof, the lack of any contemplation for sexual gratification, has absolutely no adverse effects on the female psche.

so, guys, just remember, girls don't really give a shit, not in comparison to the male labido, about sex. just a philosophical glimpse into the mind of the usb.

unfortunately, unless you find a real nympho, which i have only experienced maybe 25% of the time in my "career," if that much, you will find that they are generally not nearly as "interested" in sex as we are. that is why they don't show up to make one hundred times the amount that they would otherwise make if they were just working the desk in one of the hotels, sweeping floors, cleaning toilets, etc...

don't believe me? lets analyze it. the girls make 1000 pesos for 1.5 hours if you bar fine them from el infinito. the total salida is 1350 pesos, and 350 pesos goes to the bar. the girl keeps 1000 pesos, all she can eat if you take her to dinner, and all she can drink if you buy her booze. how much does the average laborer in mexico make in wages?

there are three wage zones in mexico. the average of the three zones shows the average daily wage in mexico is currently about mx$48.70 per day, which is approximately $4.80us per day, which is approximately forty-eight cents (us) per hour. also keeping in mind that the work day in mexico is much longer than the work day in the us. i am averaging the work day for these calculations to be approximately 10 hours a day for mexican workers. i know that many mexican laborers are very hard workers, sunup to sundown. but for this analysis, we'll use an average of ten hours per day for simplicities sake.

that means, if these statistics are correct, that the girls would be making 666 pesos per hour, $66us per hour, at least 660 times the average labor rate per hour. now, i realize that we're averaging labor rates across the whole of mexico, and that labor rates in mty are significantly higher than the interior states. but, that's why i adjusted my average quoted above to reveal that the girls are making at least 100 times the average labor rate, in order to account for the higher wages in mty proper.

i think this assessment is, frankly, very generous. the average is probably much higher if you compare the professional skill level of the girls with respect to the average laborer in mexico. the girls are mostly uneducated, unskilled professionally, and have very little to offer beyond basic skills otherwise, notwithstanding their female skills of course.

the girls, afterall, are not physicians...although, i do sometimes think of them as socially denegrated nurses, verdad? so, with that kind of incentive, if they fail to showup for outcalls, what other kind of conclusions can we be expected to reach as a result of their choosing not to show up.

compared to males that would undoubtedly show up "free of charge," it is blatantly obvious that they are also unmotivated by the prospect of making ten times the going labor rate, and nor are they sufficiently impressed with the prospect of having sex, austensibly having sex with guys that practice it to perfection, and can deliver it with skill, we mongers. of course, i suppose if you are a twenty years old brad pitt, you might have a better result. but, frankly, i don't believe that the girls are any more reliable with respect to outcalls as it relates to my previously quoted percentages of success. certainly, if i had the prospect of making one hundred times my going wage rate in the us, i would probably be willing to consider the prospect of sex with even somebody so nasty as rosey o'donnell.

romance? affection? communication? caring? friendship? carressing? kissing? yes...but, sex takes a back seat to most of these other things for women, imho. unfortunately, this financial analysis reveals the stark reality that our egos as males compell us to ignore. this financial analysis illustrates the huge gulf that exists between men and women. men and women really are wired totally differently. if you finally become enlightened to this reality, it will help you understand them better, and it will even assist you in getting in their pants with more success.

anyway, i digress...i felt the need to rant!!!

back to my best western story...

well, you know??? during my salida busting days, during the course of a particular week, i had lined up a number of girls thinking that i would play the percentages. i figured i would play the odds hoping that at least one of them would come through. the problem is, they all came through on the same day...oh shit!!!

the desk clerk was becoming visibly disturbed by the time the third one actually showed up. he actually mouthed to me something like "another one?" ...sweat accumulating on his brow, a scrunched up forehead, as number three was arriving, hahahaha!!!!! i just shrugged my shoulders, grinned a big "dumb gringo," and acted like..."que, no aye problema?"

fortunately, the girls didn't show up all at the same time or i would have either had a really great time, or a huge cat fight. but, the fact is, by the time the third one showed up, i was spent. i mean, i had trouble making it happen in the room. i remember, this particular third girl was one of my long time girlfriends from el obsession, and she commented a couple of times to me. she seemingly said something like..."how many today?"...something like that. but, she was finally successful, so i am proud that my performance was not particularly poor. i just wished she had showed up the next day, or even two days later.

the funny thing was, the male clerk at the best western, the one that became visibly disturbed, used to actually work at pda. he recognized me from having stayed at pda in the past. i think i gave him a small propina after that happened just to keep him on my good side. after i tipped him, i think the wheels started to turn in his head, and he was a little more receptive to the "possibilities."

when you hear me always preaching about our having to use discretion, it comes from my own personal stupid mistakes.

it also happened to the best western madero where unspongebob used to stay.
had a sex scandal within their premises and that was the day they stopped allowing lady visitors to the rooms at night.

[Doubt98]

I stay a couple of blocks down the street at the PDA express. If you are a regular you might be able to negotiate a better price. It is clean and quiet. It seems to be truly a business hotel. I rarely see kids but I do see a ton of business people. The attendants at the front desk are very accomodating. BUT I have never brought a girl back. Like Unospongebob refered to, the girls have turned into friends and it would almost feel like you were disappointing them. At least in my mind it would. They probably couldn't care less.
I have stayed at Fastous (sp?) and it is a nice hotel and probably more centrally located if you are walking. But, I prefer the service and recognition at the other.

[El Cabron 007]

I am pleased to see USB's and Carlos' posts on PDA. The hotel is clearly family and group kinda place. My breakfasts are usually in the restaurant, if I am solo in the morning. The tables are usually occupied by a father, a mother and a couple of kids. Otherwise, it is a basketball team or something similar.

If I have girl still with me in the morning, I order breakfast in the room. I will not take them to the restaurant because it would look nasty.

I am seriously thinking of limiting my activities to the clubs and cutting down on salidas for a while.

Wasted

I recently received a private message request to elaborate my thoughts about Monterrey, and how it stacks up in comparison to other venues. I think there are a few issues that might need clarification to help everyone understand the scene in Monterrey.

Monterrey is a totally different mongering venue than Pattaya, Thailand, or AC, Philippines, etc... Even TJ, Mexico, is a totally different kind of environment than MTY. All of the aforementioned places are "in your face." Everybody understands why you're there. They accomodate our activities regardless of whether we choose to flaunt them or not.

I have to admit that I'm fearful that if we're all not EXTREMELY discrete at PDA, we will have one less clean, comfortable, reasonably priced (?), "accomodating," GFE hotel to rely on.

Frankly, certain ones of us would not probably be bothered, myself, WastedG, Mr. L, Carlos, etc... We are known to Orlando, and we would undoubtedly receive special consideration. Afterall, we would be "grandfathered," as it were.

But, those of you coming to MTY in the future might find a very different reaction to your desire to bring girls to your room. So, use the utmost discretion in Monterrey, whether you choose to stay at PDA or not.

[Ken Tucky]

I am sorry that I scared you guys. What is that: "Dicretion is the first part of valour?" I am a sophisticated businessman. I would not bring a woman back to my hotel for any reason. I just read all the stuff you guys wrote on here and "assumed" there was something at the PDA that I was missing. I guess I am missing it, but only because I do not have a long-term relationship with those guys. I never inquired about any extra "services" from anyone at PDA, just went there to see what you guys "attraction" was for the place. Frankly, I'm really happy at Fastos. The girls on the street or masajes have all the "facilities" I would need. After all you do not pay them for their services, you pay them to leave. I know that there is no way there could ever be any "future" with any of those girls. To think otherwise is a big mistake. Like you (Bob) have pointed out, most are unstable on a number of different levels. I am a privileged man to have found such a place as MTY. Not many men find such a place ever in this life. I will be as discrete as possible, but I will not let any girl or any club take me for a dumb gringo. i.e. take advantage of me. After all, the prices in MTY are comparable to what it costs here in the states. The overall services are better in MTY. But still, IF they are going to charge comparable prices, I will not be tricked or conned. Thanks for the time you spent explaining the PDA situation Bob. I kinda assumed that was the case.

I recently received a private message request to elaborate my thoughts about Monterrey, and how it stacks up in comparison to other venues. I think there are a few issues that might need clarification to help everyone understand the scene in Monterrey.

Monterrey is a totally different mongering venue than Pattaya, Thailand, or AC, Philippines, etc..a. Even TJ, Mexico, is a totally different kind of environment than MTY. All of the aforementioned places are "in your face." Everybody understands why you're there. They accomodate our activities regardless of whether we choose to flaunt them or not.

Fact is, those venues, are solely based on mongering. That is NOT the case in Monterrey. It is a much more "underground" kind of thing. So, please keep that foremost in your mind if you're planning to visit Monterrey. Otherwise, you may be significantly disappointed. With the scene being "underground" comes additional responsibility on our parts. It requires you to conduct yourself with significantly more discretion than what we may be used to in other venues.

Five years ago, PDA was just another privately owned downtown hotel, one that was relatively obscure, fighting for its survival, thankful to have guests, vacancies usually available, even on weekends, etc...

That has all changed!

Five years ago, there was significantly less objection at PDA to our kinds of activities going on there. At one point, the desk clerk was actually pimping girls. But, even then, it was only late at night, and it was done with considerable secrecy. He did not flaunt it in any way. He was very discrete, and he only offered the service if he knew you.

After PDA merged with Proxima Hotels, they experienced significant growth after the merger. Needless to say, shortly after the merger, the pimping desk clerk was history. They began to make a conscious effort to maintain a more legitimized image.

Don't misunderstand, their public image was always legitimized, and there was always an effort to maintain a "clean" image with respect to their reputation. These days, they're marketing plan is even stricter than five years ago, with much more "family oriented," marketing ( ie: families, kids, college functions, high schools, business travelers, even numerous female business travelers, etc...)

I have to admit that I'm fearful that if we're all not EXTREMELY discrete at PDA, we will have one less clean, comfortable, reasonably priced (?), "accomodating," GFE hotel to rely on.

Orlando is a savy dude, and I believe he will permit us to continue these activities, but only if we DO NOT threaten the image of his hotel. At this juncture, on very rare occassion, a girl that you might see in the hallway in passing, will make a pass for the obvious reasons. But, that's a VERY, VERY, RARE occurence these days, and it's certainly nothing that is sanctioned by PDA, nor is it promoted by them.

It is very important that I make something very clear. Orlando is strictly a legitimate businessman. He will assist you logistically in any way. But, he might actually be offended at anyone openly soliciting him about our kinds of activities. Such an occurrence may even put him on notice that it's time for him to clamp down.

Frankly, certain ones of us would not probably be bothered, myself, WastedG, Mr. L, Carlos, etc... We are known to Orlando, and we would undoubtedly receive special consideration. Afterall, we would be "grandfathered," as it were.

But, those of you coming to MTY in the future might find a very different reaction to your desire to bring girls to your room. So, use the utmost discretion in Monterrey, whether you choose to stay at PDA or not.

All the hotels in MTY are going to see your activities in the same way, and the clerks and security staff do not want their jobs on the line.

As for the girls at the desk, in the past, there have been a couple of girls working there that are attractive, cute, friendly, funny, helpful, etc...I have a few girls there that are friends, and some of them may even suspect that I am up to something on my visits to MTY...they aren't stupid...but...

They do not have any direct knowledge of my activities. I am very discrete. The desk girls are all legitimate working girls. If they do suspect the nature of my true reason for being in MTY, it is because they have normal female suspicions, but most of them have no direct knowledge that I am up to anything. There have been a few that work the night shift that have seen me bring a girl back, but I have made friends of them. Certainly, they know what I'm up to, but they have accepted the "Dumb Gringo."

They have always acted friendly toward me, but I believe it's strictly because they've known me a long time, and I've formed friendships with them. Plus they know they will never, ever, recieve another homemade cookie were they to treat me badly. So, I am virtually untouchable...just kidding. They have accepted me per se. But, were I to flaunt my activities, I suspect their attitudes toward me would change significantly.

Frankly, it's one reason I changed hotels. I was becoming too well known for my own comfort level. Enough time has passed now that I would probably be virtually unknown to most of the desk girls on duty during the day, except for the office staff. I changed hotels primarily because the majority of the staff at PDA is primarily female at night. WastedG says I should come back, but Orlando would probably have to put on male night clerks in order for me to consider making a change back to PDA at this juncture.

So, I changed hotels about a year ago. I prefer to sneak girlfriends past a male night clerk and up to my room than to suffer the walk of shame in front of a twenty year old girl, even if she is a friend of mine. But, even then, even if I were to take a girlfriend past a female night clerk, I would be extremely discrete. I don't want any of them to get any heat over allowing my kinds of activities.

As Carlos mentioned, there are a handful of "accepting" hotels in MTY. Frankly, with most of the hotels that are similar in type and size to PDA, I suspect you could sneak a girl past the night clerks, and if done discretely, I doubt you would have a problem doing it one time. But, if you try that night after night, wild orgies, two or three girls at a time, two or three girls a day, similar to what you get away with in Pattaya or AC, you will NOT be welcome in the hotels of MTY. Just a word to the wise.

[Member #3453]

I recently received a private message request to elaborate my thoughts about Monterrey, and how it stacks up in comparison to other venues. I think there are a few issues that might need clarification to help everyone understand the scene in Monterrey.

Monterrey is a totally different mongering venue than Pattaya, Thailand, or AC, Philippines, etc... Even TJ, Mexico, is a totally different kind of environment than MTY. All of the aforementioned places are "in your face." Everybody understands why you're there. They accomodate our activities regardless of whether we choose to flaunt them or not.

Fact is, those venues, are solely based on mongering. That is NOT the case in Monterrey. It is a much more "underground" kind of thing. So, please keep that foremost in your mind if you're planning to visit Monterrey. Otherwise, you may be significantly disappointed. With the scene being "underground" comes additional responsibility on our parts. It requires you to conduct yourself with significantly more discretion than what we may be used to in other venues.

Five years ago, PDA was just another privately owned downtown hotel, one that was relatively obscure, fighting for its survival, thankful to have guests, vacancies usually available, even on weekends, etc...

That has all changed!

Five years ago, there was significantly less objection at PDA to our kinds of activities going on there. At one point, the desk clerk was actually pimping girls. But, even then, it was only late at night, and it was done with considerable secrecy. He did not flaunt it in any way. He was very discrete, and he only offered the service if he knew you.

After PDA merged with Proxima Hotels, they experienced significant growth after the merger. Needless to say, shortly after the merger, the pimping desk clerk was history. They began to make a conscious effort to maintain a more legitimized image.

Don't misunderstand, their public image was always legitimized, and there was always an effort to maintain a "clean" image with respect to their reputation. These days, they're marketing plan is even stricter than five years ago, with much more "family oriented," marketing ( ie: families, kids, college functions, high schools, business travelers, even numerous female business travelers, etc...)

I have to admit that I'm fearful that if we're all not EXTREMELY discrete at PDA, we will have one less clean, comfortable, reasonably priced (?), "accomodating," GFE hotel to rely on.

Orlando is a savy dude, and I believe he will permit us to continue these activities, but only if we DO NOT threaten the image of his hotel. At this juncture, on very rare occassion, a girl that you might see in the hallway in passing, will make a pass for the obvious reasons. But, that's a VERY, VERY, RARE occurence these days, and it's certainly nothing that is sanctioned by PDA, nor is it promoted by them.

It is very important that I make something very clear. Orlando is strictly a legitimate businessman. He will assist you logistically in any way. But, he might actually be offended at anyone openly soliciting him about our kinds of activities. Such an occurrence may even put him on notice that it's time for him to clamp down.

Frankly, certain ones of us would not probably be bothered, myself, WastedG, Mr. L, Carlos, etc... We are known to Orlando, and we would undoubtedly receive special consideration. Afterall, we would be "grandfathered," as it were.

But, those of you coming to MTY in the future might find a very different reaction to your desire to bring girls to your room. So, use the utmost discretion in Monterrey, whether you choose to stay at PDA or not.

All the hotels in MTY are going to see your activities in the same way, and the clerks and security staff do not want their jobs on the line.

As for the girls at the desk, in the past, there have been a couple of girls working there that are attractive, cute, friendly, funny, helpful, etc...I have a few girls there that are friends, and some of them may even suspect that I am up to something on my visits to MTY...they aren't stupid...but...

They do not have any direct knowledge of my activities. I am very discrete. The desk girls are all legitimate working girls. If they do suspect the nature of my true reason for being in MTY, it is because they have normal female suspicions, but most of them have no direct knowledge that I am up to anything. There have been a few that work the night shift that have seen me bring a girl back, but I have made friends of them. Certainly, they know what I'm up to, but they have accepted the "Dumb Gringo."

They have always acted friendly toward me, but I believe it's strictly because they've known me a long time, and I've formed friendships with them. Plus they know they will never, ever, recieve another homemade cookie were they to treat me badly. So, I am virtually untouchable...just kidding. They have accepted me per se. But, were I to flaunt my activities, I suspect their attitudes toward me would change significantly.

Frankly, it's one reason I changed hotels. I was becoming too well known for my own comfort level. Enough time has passed now that I would probably be virtually unknown to most of the desk girls on duty during the day, except for the office staff. I changed hotels primarily because the majority of the staff at PDA is primarily female at night. WastedG says I should come back, but Orlando would probably have to put on male night clerks in order for me to consider making a change back to PDA at this juncture.

So, I changed hotels about a year ago. I prefer to sneak girlfriends past a male night clerk and up to my room than to suffer the walk of shame in front of a twenty year old girl, even if she is a friend of mine. But, even then, even if I were to take a girlfriend past a female night clerk, I would be extremely discrete. I don't want any of them to get any heat over allowing my kinds of activities.

As Carlos mentioned, there are a handful of "accepting" hotels in MTY. Frankly, with most of the hotels that are similar in type and size to PDA, I suspect you could sneak a girl past the night clerks, and if done discretely, I doubt you would have a problem doing it one time. But, if you try that night after night, wild orgies, two or three girls at a time, two or three girls a day, similar to what you get away with in Pattaya or AC, you will NOT be welcome in the hotels of MTY. Just a word to the wise.

Carlos,

Sorry I missed you guys. I would have loved to hung with you. Lord knows I tried to find some compadres. Next trip I'll let you know I'm on my way and try to hook up. I'm still curious about the attraction at PDA? I went there 3 times and talked with the desk clerks. Orlando was never there, so I did not get the low down. Is there action there? hmmm, I have had very sweet dreams this week. Thanks for all the info.

[MonterreyDude]

Ken, please be aware that the Plaza del Arco is just a normal hotel, one that is adequate and well place for mongering.
Do not even think for a second there is action there.
I am openly and with all due respect going to tell you, do not even try to hit on the girls at the front desk or you might ruin one of the few remaining girl friendly hotels here in Monterrey (there are no more than 4 now).

Carlos,

Sorry I missed you guys. I would have loved to hung with you. Lord knows I tried to find some compadres. Next trip I'll let you know I'm on my way and try to hook up. I'm still curious about the attraction at PDA? I went there 3 times and talked with the desk clerks. Orlando was never there, so I did not get the low down. Is there action there? hmmm, I have had very sweet dreams this week. Thanks for all the info.

[Ken Tucky]

Carlos,

Sorry I missed you guys. I would have loved to hung with you. Lord knows I tried to find some compadres. Next trip I'll let you know I'm on my way and try to hook up. I'm still curious about the attraction at PDA? I went there 3 times and talked with the desk clerks. Orlando was never there, so I did not get the low down. Is there action there? hmmm, I have had very sweet dreams this week. Thanks for all the info.

Mmmm

Both WastedG and me were there at the Infinito. Sorry we missed you.

Yes, the Infinito is on a straight line from the Fastos and beware of taxi drivers in the sense that they will play dumb, say they don't know where the club is and take you to clubs where they get kickbacks.

And yes, mO\any girls were no there this weekend, including Tangalay and all the rest of the SCs.

The girls opt for a well deserved vacation, as we should also...

[MonterreyDude]

Mmmm
Both WastedG and me were there at the Infinito... sorry we missed you.
Yes, the Infinito is on a straight line from the Fastos and beware of taxi drivers in the sense that they will play dumb, say they don't know where the club is and take you to clubs where they get kickbacks.
And yes, many girls were no there this weekend, including Tangalay and all the rest of the SCs.
The girls opt for a well deserved vacation, as we should also...

I visited MTY this past weekend. Thanks to everyone who provided all the info for a successful journey. It's only an $88 bus ride (round-trip) from here to there. I arrived early Friday morning. The clerk at the PDA told the that there were no rooms available even though I had called the day before and was assured there were plenty of rooms. Even better, because Fastos was better and $10 cheaper. It took me about 12 hours to find the "I" that was just under my nose. My taxi told me the clubs were 10 blocks North when in fact they were 4 blocks east. "I" was packed on Friday night when I arrived, so I visited Tangalay. I had a great time there, but my understanding of "great time" is realative to my experiences in other places. As I found out later, I had a greater time on Sat and Sun. I have never seen anything like MTY. You guys are saying that the numbers are down and the scale is low because of the holiday? I cannot wait to return when the numbers and the scale is up. Dios Mio! Thanks for all the info. I cannot wait to return.

[Ken Tucky]

Well, my experience? Hmmm. I lived in Louisville, Kentucky for about 8 years. The clubs and "spas" there were pretty liberal. Especially the asian spas. $100 could get you anything you wanted there. I was in Lima a couple of years ago. There was some "activitiy" there but nothing as consentrated as MTY. Just within a 5 block area of my hotel there in MTY was endless "opportunities". Even during a holiday weekend! I enjoyed the "street girls" selling their "quartos"; I also loved the masajes. The variety of chicas in those places was crazy. Bob, I would like to know the "special features" of PDA? I got thrown out of Tangalay on Sunday night because the girl was all over me. She would not stop kissing me and feeling me up. After one hour she was talking marriage and introducing me to her family. Just like you said. I kept spending money on her and finally they showed me the door. Is that the reason Infinito is better? The one girl at Infinito that I took upstairs let me do anything I wanted and I just called her off the stage during the "cattle call" time. I had never talked to her or anything. Just a crook of my finger and then she said. Que quieres? Anyways, I could talk about this forever. Bob, I relied a lot on your posts for my info. Thanks! By the way, I did not see very many gringos at all during my visit. I do not think there is going to be a big influx anytime soon. MTY is a place that you have to go to, not a place on the way to anywhere. Anyways, thanks.

Ken Tucky,

Great to hear you had a good time in MTY. You mentioned that you have "never seen anything like Monterrey." We try to tell people this all the time, and we are regularly rebuffed by the skeptics, especially by guys who regularly visit TJ and have no direct knowledge of Monterrey.

I am always simultaneously eager, while also equally hesitant, to publicly sing the praises of Monterrey on the boards, fearing that hords of Gringos will eventually find there way to Monterrey and spoil our little corner of heaven. So, while I fear the worst, I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut about it. When I find something that good, I just can't keep my mouth shut!

KT, do you have experience in other places? If so, please elaborate so we know your frame of reference. I alway like to hear from guys who try MTY for the first time but also have experience in other venues, especially experience in other places like the PI, Thailand, Indonesia, Costa Rica, Columbia, etc..., places that are austensibly better than Mexico, and by association, Monterrey.

I also enjoy hearing the comparison between TJ and Monterrey from guys that have visited both venues. If you only have experience in the USA, then nothing in the US will compare, period.

MTY will effect you like a drug the first time. If you overdose on MTY, you will sure die, if not literally, then figuratively, even from a short period of seperation :-) You can't eat just one...get it? You'll be back, like a magnet and steel.

[Member #3453]

Ken Tucky,

Great to hear you had a good time in MTY. You mentioned that you have "never seen anything like Monterrey." We try to tell people this all the time, and we are regularly rebuffed by the skeptics, especially by guys who regularly visit TJ and have no direct knowledge of Monterrey.

I am always simultaneously eager, while also equally hesitant, to publicly sing the praises of Monterrey on the boards, fearing that hords of Gringos will eventually find there way to Monterrey and spoil our little corner of heaven. So, while I fear the worst, I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut about it. When I find something that good, I just can't keep my mouth shut!

KT, do you have experience in other places? If so, please elaborate so we know your frame of reference. I alway like to hear from guys who try MTY for the first time but also have experience in other venues, especially experience in other places like the PI, Thailand, Indonesia, Costa Rica, Columbia, etc..., places that are austensibly better than Mexico, and by association, Monterrey.

I also enjoy hearing the comparison between TJ and Monterrey from guys that have visited both venues. If you only have experience in the USA, then nothing in the US will compare, period.

MTY will effect you like a drug the first time. If you overdose on MTY, you will surely die, if not literally, then figuratively, even from a short period of seperation :-) You can't eat just one...get it? You'll be back, like a magnet and steel.

I visited MTY this past weekend. Thanks to everyone who provided all the info for a successful journey. It's only an $88 bus ride (round-trip) from here to there. I arrived early Friday morning. The clerk at the PDA told the that there were no rooms available even though I had called the day before and was assured there were plenty of rooms. Even better, because Fastos was better and $10 cheaper. It took me about 12 hours to find the "I" that was just under my nose. My taxi told me the clubs were 10 blocks North when in fact they were 4 blocks east. "I" was packed on Friday night when I arrived, so I visited Tangalay. I had a great time there, but my understanding of "great time" is realative to my experiences in other places. As I found out later, I had a greater time on Sat and Sun. I have never seen anything like MTY. You guys are saying that the numbers are down and the scale is low because of the holiday? I cannot wait to return when the numbers and the scale is up. Dios Mio! Thanks for all the info. I cannot wait to return.

[Ken Tucky]

I visited MTY this past weekend. Thanks to everyone who provided all the info for a successful journey. It's only an $88 bus ride (round-trip) from here to there. I arrived early Friday morning. The clerk at the PDA told the that there were no rooms available even though I had called the day before and was assured there were plenty of rooms. Even better, because Fastos was better and $10 cheaper. It took me about 12 hours to find the "I" that was just under my nose. My taxi told me the clubs were 10 blocks North when in fact they were 4 blocks east. "I" was packed on Friday night when I arrived, so I visited Tangalay. I had a great time there, but my understanding of "great time" is realative to my experiences in other places. As I found out later, I had a greater time on Sat and Sun. I have never seen anything like MTY. You guys are saying that the numbers are down and the scale is low because of the holiday? I cannot wait to return when the numbers and the scale is up. Dios Mio! Thanks for all the info. I cannot wait to return.

It sounds like WastedG must have had a bad time this weekend then. Well, I would never actually believe that MTY would yield a bad time, but when you are used to having outstanding experiences like WastedG is used to having, a 60% reduction in the talent pool has to be a shocker, verdad?

I would not recommend going to MTY during the holiday season. Many of these girls are from outside of MTY. Some are from far outside of MTY. Many of them return to their home towns for the holidays to visit family members that have NO IDEA what they do for a living, and only see them once or twice a year. So, it seems to me after having talked to a number of the girls over the years, that the girls take this opportunity to live a relatively "normal" family life existence, at least for a couple of weeks each year anyway.

[El Cabron 007]

Que le vamos a hacer
Si la vida es así
Le aposte todo a tus besos
Y así todo lo perdí
No me pidas perdón
Que ni tú te lo crees
Esas lágrimas son falsas
Como falso fue tu amor
Pero no me digas nada
Que el tonto he sido yo
Si la luna no es de queso
Ni las nubes de algodón
Para que seguir con cuentos
Con amores de ficción
Si tu boca no es de fresa
Ni en tus ojos sale el sol
Mentirosa, traicionera
Y yo que daba por ti la vida entera
Mentirosa, embustera
Basta ya de tantos gritos
Este cuento se acabo

Para que decir más
Si todo termino
Todo lo que sube baja
Todo lo que viene va
No me pidas perdón
Que ni tú te lo crees
Vete por donde llegaste
Y ojala te vaya bien
Pero no me digas nada
Que el tonto he sido yo
Si la luna no es de queso
Ni las nubes de algodón
Para que seguir con cuentos
Con amores de ficción
Si tu boca no es de fresa
Ni en tus ojos sale el sol
Mentirosa, traicionera
Y yo que daba por ti la vida entera
Mentirosa, embustera
Basta ya de tantos gritos
Este cuento se acabo

Mentirosa, traicionera
Y yo que daba por ti la vida entera
Mentirosa, embustera
Yo contigo no regresó aunque me muera
Mentirosa, traicionera
Y yo que daba por ti la vida entera
Mentirosa, embustera
Basta de tantos gritos
Este cuento se acabo

Thank you Elefante.

Wasted

[MonterreyDude]

am gonna quote roxanna from the i place: sucio!!!

if you guys recall our discussion on bringing back smurf pills back into he us. i was caught once, ages ago, but let go and kept my pills. lately and during my last couple of trips, the immigration officer would hand me a brown folder, sticks my passport in it and directs me to a special room where they would casually interrogate me. nothing scary but definitely annoying.

last couple of trips, i asked the officer why they have me here, again? he says "you've been here before?" yes, and for no reason. the 'honest' officer said he would put a note in my file so they would not bother me again. one time i stopped there for 5 hours returning back from tj even before the v pills incident. turns out they had me envisaged all the way up to washington d.c.

in tj, one immigration officer started cleaning a fan with a napkin. with all the dust still on the fan, he preceded to pint the fan at me and just about o turn it on so all the dust would blow back at me. i yelled “what the hell are you doing dude?” he goes “oh, so now you can speak english, ha? i will give me garbage just like you mexicans bring us your garbage.” another officer nudges him and say, “idiot, he is a us citizen.” turned out the confused me with another mexican who was there as well.

yesterday, i had to visit the immigration office again, as the officer pulls out the brown folder, i say "again?"

as i waited in the 'special' room, they were making phone calls asking why the hell was i sent to them. they would say something like mr. soandso has been referred to us but he should not have been or something to that extent. my attitude was extremely casual. i was singing mana’s “labios compartidos”. i had nothing to worry about and this may have driven them crazy too. my record is propably cleaner than any of the officers there. i have nothing against me.

finally, what seems to be a very gentle officer, or he acted like he was, asks to follow him. as we made out way through customs, he asked me if i am bringing any prescription drugs 'again'. “hell no”, i said. any live or dead animals? no, any other junk, i said the only thing i bring back with me was the air that i breathed and the dust on my shoes.

so he walks me out and says 'welcome back, sir'.

that's when i stopped him and asked why the heck am i being stopped, twice, especially since the last officer said he would put a note in my file so they would not bother me again, he said "the prescription drug story came up again".

the lady who stopped me the first time way back said she would let me go and she let me keep my vitamins. but she also said if she confirep001ed them, i would be marked for life and i would be searched every time i return to the us. bullshit.

i asked the officer if i could get a copy of my record. he says i cannot tell you what's in your file but there is nothing bad. however, the freedom act thingy allows me to request a copy of my file. he gave me a sheet of paper with instructions about how to file a request. no need. i now know what they’re looking for.

i will buy them in mty and keep them there from now on. it is not worth the 5 minutes delay they put me through. especially since i am not blond with blue eyes.

every single page of my passport has at least 4 méxico entry stamps and the same for us stamps. i was asked once if i lived in mexico. i wish i did.

another previous stop was in san antonio. the officer claimed he was doing a survey. right. he searched every item n my bags. nothing.

oh yeah, they also asked me, every time, if i meat anyone down there, as soon as i say, “carlos”, they handcuffed me... not. (just kidding)

is this trouble worth 3 or 8 days in mty? for all i care, they can hold me for 24 hours as long as i get to feast on my “s”, “p”, “j”, “?”, “n” and my “x”, who else? oh yean, the new “b”/ i know i have more but can not keep track. this will give me time to plan my next trip.

wasted

[El Cabron 007]

if you guys recall our discussion on bringing back smurf pills back into he us. i was caught once, ages ago, but let go and kept my pills. lately and during my last couple of trips, the immigration officer would hand me a brown folder, sticks my passport in it and directs me to a special room where they would casually interrogate me. nothing scary but definitely annoying.

last couple of trips, i asked the officer why they have me here, again? he says "you've been here before?" yes, and for no reason. the 'honest' officer said he would put a note in my file so they would not bother me again. one time i stopped there for 5 hours returning back from tj even before the v pills incident. turns out they had me envisaged all the way up to washington d.c.

in tj, one immigration officer started cleaning a fan with a napkin. with all the dust still on the fan, he preceded to pint the fan at me and just about o turn it on so all the dust would blow back at me. i yelled “what the hell are you doing dude?” he goes “oh, so now you can speak english, ha? i will give me garbage just like you mexicans bring us your garbage.” another officer nudges him and say, “idiot, he is a us citizen.” turned out the confused me with another mexican who was there as well.

yesterday, i had to visit the immigration office again, as the officer pulls out the brown folder, i say "again?"

as i waited in the 'special' room, they were making phone calls asking why the hell was i sent to them. they would say something like mr. soandso has been referred to us but he should not have been or something to that extent. my attitude was extremely casual. i was singing mana’s “labios compartidos”. i had nothing to worry about and this may have driven them crazy too. my record is propably cleaner than any of the officers there. i have nothing against me.

finally, what seems to be a very gentle officer, or he acted like he was, asks to follow him. as we made out way through customs, he asked me if i am bringing any prescription drugs 'again'. “hell no”, i said. any live or dead animals? no, any other junk, i said the only thing i bring back with me was the air that i breathed and the dust on my shoes.

so he walks me out and says 'welcome back, sir'.

that's when i stopped him and asked why the heck am i being stopped, twice, especially since the last officer said he would put a note in my file so they would not bother me again, he said "the prescription drug story came up again".

the lady who stopped me the first time way back said she would let me go and she let me keep my vitamins. but she also said if she confirep001ed them, i would be marked for life and i would be searched every time i return to the us. bullshit.

i asked the officer if i could get a copy of my record. he says i cannot tell you what's in your file but there is nothing bad. however, the freedom act thingy allows me to request a copy of my file. he gave me a sheet of paper with instructions about how to file a request. no need. i now know what they’re looking for.

i will buy them in mty and keep them there from now on. it is not worth the 5 minutes delay they put me through. especially since i am not blond with blue eyes.

every single page of my passport has at least 4 méxico entry stamps and the same for us stamps. i was asked once if i lived in mexico. i wish i did.

another previous stop was in san antonio. the officer claimed he was doing a survey. right. he searched every item n my bags. nothing.

oh yeah, they also asked me, every time, if i meat anyone down there, as soon as i say, “carlos”, they handcuffed me... not. (just kidding)

is this trouble worth 3 or 8 days in mty? for all i care, they can hold me for 24 hours as long as i get to feast on my “s”, “p”, “j”, “?”, “n” and my “x”, who else? oh yean, the new “b”/ i know i have more but can not keep track. this will give me time to plan my next trip.

wasted

what's the best place to pick up some vitamin v (viagra)? i'd prefer something close to matehuala, but can be flexible if necessary. late hours would be another bonus.

thanks!

tyson

[El Cabron 007]

And today was absolutely dead. There's about 10% attendance. Both customers and girls. One of our mutual lady-friends "In" (Carlos’ angry one) kept me company for a little while then I decided it is time to return to my hotel since I have my "X" girl coming over for the night.

Last night was extremely fun for me. I was taking my "X" out and decided to get her another girl as my new year's gift to her. She chose one that I had the hots for but never took out. To make the story short, I never knew how fixable my body was until last night. The girls fell in love with each other and I almost blew my top off.

Then returned with them to the “I” place and stayed until 4 am. Not a single dull moment with them lovelies (as Happy George would say)

I still love how the girls in the booths call out my name when I go upstairs. I can not see them too well so I do not know who is calling. But it’s like a man’s fantasy “where everybody knows your name”

Happy New Year All.

Wasted

Yesterday at the Infinito both afternoon and night shifts were needed to get a decent number of girls on the floor of the club and they were needed cause the club was full.
I had to wait till 9 pm for my night shift girl to appear whilst lucky WastedG had all his manifest present and accounted.