Havana

[CubaCurious]

Thanks Havanman!

By the way, discretion is my middle name

There is a great last minute flight from Montreal this Sunday for $250, and I'm having a hard time turning it down, despite having nothing arranged.

Someone suggested to me a very respectable particular in Vedado, and the couple certainly has some steller recommendations.

But here's my problem: it says right on their faq that they won't allow chicas into the place. Reasonable, I suppose.

So, should I book with them for peace and quiet and security, and then negotiate another place on the side for any action that might come my way? Again, I'm not interested in pros, but I'm definitely interested in hook-ups, but I don't want any hassles or trouble.

Suggestions appreciated once again!

Tomas

[Organicgrowth]

CubaCurious,

The answer to your questions is yes. There are a number of such guides available. You can either sort one via one of the hotels, indeed for the right negotiation you can get one of the female reception staff…. I have done this. Please be very discrete, as they might get into problems…

I also have a contact for you, please email me for the details, you understand I don’t want to make this public…

Regards,

Havanaman

Sedition2001@hotmail.com

[Organicgrowth]

Gentlemen,

Taking off a month was excessive I know, but it had to be done. My only regret now is that I’m missing the travelling. I’m at day 4 of the post-holiday blues. Shit happens.

I’m not going to repeat any of the usual information myself and others have posted, suffice it to say that Havana is still Havana and for me very little has changed ‘general people’ and chica wise. All the popular clubs and bars are still open and mongering is as easy as ever if youve been before.

HOWEVER: Please note. In all my years of visiting Cuba, this visit (Christmas period) showed the highest police presence it have ever been my misfortune to see. They were everywhere. Unlike previously, where I have seen single policemen standing on street corners, this time I did not spot a lone officer; they were always in groups of two or more. I can not explain this. My friends in Havana told me that this started at the end of October, virtually overnight: go figure. The mind of the bearded one works in mysterious ways…

The only respite from the overwhelming police presence was during Christmas eve, when I say about 5 officers the whole night (mainly outside the caboret nacional (right, out of the Inglatera hotel), and at the beginning of the Prado de J-M. It was the only night I hit the city centre due to an invitation from a couple of German dudes (no names, but thanks guys for an excellent meal! I’m still up for the Munich trip…). The Prado had about 15 chicas (mainly professional). Lack of police meant they were very forward indeed. That’s when it happened. I saw her, she saw me. She gets up, comes towards me and takes my hand.

I’m not going into the very specific details, but in 15 years of mongering I experienced a first. I now have evidence that this 20 year old mulata (from Santiago) was the prototype used by Mr. Hoover when he created his vacuum cleaner. This chica could suck a boiled egg through a straw. I said a first for me because when she finished the first BBBJ, she gets off me, walks to the bathroom, I hear her spit my population-juices down the pan. She comes back into the bedroom after a few seconds, stands watching me as I wipe off the remainder of my spilled gene pool, then proceeds to BBBJ me again! The second coming was holier than holy, I thought I might pass out! Being a gentleman I returned the compliment. Call me weak, but I doubled her ‘taxi fare’ to $40. Worth every one of those greenbacks.

OK, some practical information: In Europe cell phone are 95% SIM card driven (I say this to set the scene because of the hassle I subsequently experienced when I went on to Argentina…). Anyway If you need cell phone (mobile) access while in Havana, and your phone has a SIM, you can get excellent coverage (local and international!!) (but with a new temporary number) from C_Com. They have 2 offices in Havana: one at 3rd Ave Y 94, Playa (Miramar) (tel. Number 2642266), and another in old Havana, Tte Rey #19 Esg. (tel. 2642288). This last one is very near Benny’s Bar (an excellent hangout for semi-pros by the way). If you know floriditta, keep it to your right as you walk down the road.

Costs: $3 per day for the SIM. Call charges to Europe were $5.85 per min. A bit heavy but when you need to stay in touch you need to pay…. By the way, there is also Cubacel, but its shit all the way: service, personnel and coverage…

I hope the above is of use to fellow Havanaphiles. I have a confession to make. Regardless of my love for Havana, this post marks the end of a long and very happy love affair between me and Cuba. I have discovered Argentina. I have no doubt that I will be back here one day but for the near future this has now become my last visit. I just want to say what a pleasure it has been and if I can be of any help to fellow Cuba enthusiasts please don’t hesitate to email me. You can still get me on the Argentina board.

Regards and much pleasure.

Havanaman
sedition2001@hotmail.com

(no, I’m keeping the name!)

[CubaCurious]

Thanks to everyone who's posted in this section--i've learned a lot.

Couple of specific questions tho:

1. Is this Jan 1st crackdown really significant if you're going to have fun, and only get laid as a side effect of enjoying the place? I'm not into pros, and I'm happy to shower the non-pros with whatever money and gifts, but I'm not looking for some purely transactional relationship. However, at the end of the day, if I get naked at some particulare, I want to know I'm safe.

2. Is it possible to prearrange a smart, cool woman guide who will take you around, cook a few meals, and generally make your life easier? Does anyone know someone who is truly bi-lingual and who you can pre-book rather than having to take your chances down there. I really want to have it done before I go so I don't have to worry.

I'm thinking of a last-minute flight from Montreal this week, so any info would help in my decision.

Any contacts would be fabulous. BTW, I am extremely generous when someone is genuine and helpful. In the Caribbean last year, I had a really cool chick who took me around, and I paid for everything and gave her a nice bonus at the end.

Thanks!

Tomas

[HarryR]

I found a site on the internet, or rather I may have got the link from here of a site that has girls wanting partners. Tehy range in age from 17 to about 32 and most have downloadable pictures, sometimes several. Some nice looking women. But what I found strange was that some of them were nude or nearly so as if they had just had a session with the webmaster. Take a look.

www.havanacubaconnection.com

[SkyJuice]

In8...Whoops!..I didn't see that you already posted the info.

thanks again.

[SkyJuice]

In8

Thank you for posting up all the great info..I'm interested in visiting Havana..maybe in Feb 03'..Please send me the number of your contact guide. thanks!

Skyjuice70@hotmail.com

[IntMoM]

Originally posted by arecho66
Catire,

I've come to the conclusion that Cubans are straight-up, across the board fucked in the head. I lived in Bogota for almost four years and even those fucks aren't as degenerate as Cubans.

I think you have to try look at it from the Cuban's perspective. Colombia is fucked up in its own obvious ways but certainly NOT communist. I see the same sort of attitudes in Cuba that I recall seeing in East Germany and Bulgaria way back around the time of the collapse of Communism.

It would seem to me that living under Communism would drive anyone squirly! You have nothing and the gov't takes care of everything and many things don't work or make sense but you must simply accept it and learn to work the system. In comes a westerner that defies all these realities. Now, insteading of having to work the system to get what limited possibilities are available to you, you just have to work the westerner and the possibilities are much more open. I can't even imagine what must be going through their heads but I do know that their reality is MUCH different from ours.

[In8]

His name is Jorge. Actually it is Juan Jorge, but he goes by Jorge. Tell him that his friend who scuba dives sent you.

driedup3030 - I already sent you his picture and gave you his tel number. I am the same guy that you have been e-mailing.

Here it is again:

Jorge hangs out in front of the Hotel National, in Havana. He usually wears a baseball cap, and he is 25 y/o. He drives a moto taxi that is yellow and looks like a big tennis ball. His tel # is 8301396. Just tell him his friend the buseodoro. He'll know who I am. I spent my birthday with him his girlfriend, and my chica in December.

In8

[driedup3030]

In8 I am hoping to land in Cuba soon. Can you pass me the photo and number of the guy. Who should I say referred me? My email is down there.
Thanks alot in advance.

[In8]

Hello gentlemen,

This is my first post in a long time, however I have lurked for quite some time prior to my first visit to Cuba. I just returned Dec 21, 2002. I had a wonderful time.

Cheap flights from my hometown to Cancun, then purchaced a ticket from Cancun to Havana, $300. Airfare was in total $600.00 R/T. Havana was great. I did take a trip to Varadero, and what a mistake that was. It was like going from the forest to the desert. Very few girls, and muchas policias. I did hook up, but she was just average. I met one gal (in Havana) who I spent 4 of 7 days with and had the most incredible GFE ever. She didn't even ask for $$$. After the first night, the next morning I awoke to her ass grinding into my lap, she initiated sex almost every time. The chemistry was awesome. She was 19, I am 35. She did exhibit a little jelousy from time to time. One of the best fucks I have ever had. I even had to check myself back into reality, as I was fantisizing to bring her here. It just takes one head check to kill that notion, so don't worry I wouldn't follow through, but what a fantacy. She was mulatto, with muscular legs, medium tits, and a pussy that was beautiful to eat and fuck.

I had the help of a fantastic guide who saved me so much time and trouble I would recommend him to anyone staying in Havana. He negotiated for me, kept the Jinateros (males) away from me. Since I went alone he became a buddy, but he was so respectful of me, he is a humble guy. He found me a great casa.

If any are interested I will post his photo and tel #.


In8

[Arecho66]

Catire,

First of all, I don't recall saying or inferring that my routine was cool so back off. Note that I prefaced my post as a "cautionary tale." Nothing more, nothing less. Also, you don't know the frequency of my travels prior to the truth emerging so your bit about LD relationship is off-base. Finally, who the fuck would think that her fucking husband was essentially pimping her off? The mother-fucker went with us to Baracoa and stayed in the room next to ours in the casa particular while I fucked his wife's brains out day and night for several days in a very loud fashion. They had me thinking he was her "cousin."

I've come to the conclusion that Cubans are straight-up, across the board fucked in the head. I lived in Bogota for almost four years and even those fucks aren't as degenerate as Cubans.

[Catire]

to arecho66 - a clarification

foreigners are called "extranjeros".
"yuma" is a very specific term and it means American. or America
It is very United States specific.

And your general point about bf's and gf's are correct, thought it is possible to find a nice and good gf without a guy lurking in the shadows who is looking to rip you off. Btw - that kind of girl would never accept money to give you a blowjob, etc. They aren't working girls, period.

The problem really lies in the challenge of the long distance aspect of the relationship. Do you expect her to sit there and play with herself while waiting for you to come visit her for a week once or twice or even thrice a year?

And are you sitting at home in the US, or Canada, playing with yourself for the other 49 weeks or so at the same time?

[Doc Bill]

thanks so much, arecho66, for your story...it really helps to know i'm not alone...i thought after so many trips that i was hip to it all in cuba, but this one just blindsided me, i mean it wasn't just the sex, i really fell! but you are right, unfortunately the idea of bringing a cuban girl home is a risky long-shot...too bad, my problem is that i don't do well nor like very much american women...

anyway, i appreciate your counsel....and i wonder, if like me, you find cuba not worth the hassle these days?

stay strong & prosper!

[Arecho66]

docbill449's good post inspired me to relate my cautionary tale. Like docbill, I too have been to Cuba 8 times, except within a two year period. The motivation was a gorgeous, white 24 yo Cubana from Holguin Province in eastern Cuba. I met her on La Rampa (Havana) and while it was not a straight-up jinitera transaction, nor was it a Norman Rockwell romance. I sent her money regularly and of course brought her tons of gifts and merchandize on my numerous trips to visit her both in Habana and Holguin. On the second trip, she introduced me to her "parents" and other "family" members who turned out to be her husband's parents and family. The whole rancid lot were in cahoots to fleece the "yuma" (foreigner). In my defense, she was the only Cubana who had any effect of this sort on me and I have had more than 30 Cubanas. Ironically, one jinitera I picked up my last trip in front of La Copelia on La Rampa was also from Holguin Province. During our session together, I inquired if she had a boyfriend. She replied "todas tenemos novios" or "we all have boyfriends."

So be forewarned, they all have husbands and/or boyfriends who tolerate the foreigner for the money. This is the rule, not the exception. I know most of this falls under the "Duuuuhhhh" category and I realize most foreign guys, esp Americans do not travel to Cuba looking for a girlfriend much less a wife. However, you might meet a Cubana who is exceptionally nice, well-educated or just a joy to be with besides in bed. But do not, I repeat do not even think about bringing her home because Cubanas are notorious for ditching their benefactors within months of touching foreign soil. Luckily, my situation did not progress to this point. As with docbill449, some very good Cuban friends enlightened me to the truth with regard to my "girlfriend."

In short, the Cubanas are fun to play with but do not take them seriously for one second. Nonetheless, treat them nice because they will definitely be nice to you. Just remember that there is always a boyfriend or husband lurking in the shadows.