Madrid

[SeoulSearcher]

Hi all,

been looking at all the posts, what a great site. Feel the need to contribute myself, alas havent had anything to report, not taken the plunge in Madrid.

Will prefer to visit than any of the clubs, Fuencarral 55 sounds like a winner to me (hope if wasnt affected by recent raids).

Question for the board, is how much of a problem could my Aboslute lack of Spanish be. I.e, what would I say if I ring the buzzer at an apartment? Or should I not worry about that and just go for it? Any experience to share would be must appreciated.

[Out for Flesh]

Which Madrid club can best be compared to Bailen 22 in Barcelona? Does everybody agree with Travisblue200's comments?

Any suggestions and recent experiences with upscale clubs in madrid would be appreciated.

I do not go often to Madrid downtown (I actually live 5 min. from Flowers Park - go figure which club I usually go to :-), but in other fora I've heard of Hot as being quite good. It is in Colon Square, side by side with the Wax Museum. The drawback is that the rooms there are not really bedrooms, but small private rooms with little more than a couch.

Also, Vive Madrid (somewhere in the Tetuan / Bravo de Murillo area) is receiving good reports. Sorry I cannot comment first hand on these two.

A classic place is Pigmalion, in the Cuzco (IIRC) area. But I was not impressed there some two years ago (the first and only time I went).

[Doggy Dog]

[QUOTE=Travisblue200]I don't come to this site too often, but every time I do there seem to be new users, so I give again my advice on where I like in Madrid. I do not like street action (for safety), and very much prefer 'clubs'.[QUOTE]Which Madrid club can best be compared to Bailen 22 in Barcelona? Does everybody agree with Travisblue200's comments?

Any suggestions and recent experiences with upscale clubs in madrid would be appreciated.

[Out for Flesh]

If you would like to have a sense of what it is talking about you can ue http://babelfish.altavista.com/ for translation...

A quick translation of the main points:

* Raid against chinese prostitution mafia.
* 34 people busted.
* 100 girls "freed", 1 admitting being forced into it.
* Girls rotate flats & some had medication to avoid menstruation.
* Money laundering involved as well. Highly profitable.

The rest is, IMHO, either obvious or already known by everyone here.

[Yupi Yup]

If you would like to have a sense of what it is talking about you can ue http://babelfish.altavista.com/ for translation...

[Neil340]

i thought this might be of interest, the report as mentioned earlier. sorry it's in spanish but i gave the gist of it in my earlier report and i don't have time to translate all this.

seis mafias se repartían los 14 millones del negocio de la prostitución china

agentes de la unidad contra las redes de inmigración y la falsedad documental (ucrif) central y del grupo v de la brigada provincial de extranjería y documentación han desarticulado seis mafias, consideradas las principales redes de prostitución china en madrid. en la operación han sido detenidas 34 personas, 20 de ellas por delitos contra la ley de extranjería. al resto -organizadores del ilícito negocio-, se les imputa tráfico de mujeres para su explotación sexual, asociación ilícita y blanqueo de capitales.

la laboriosa investigación partió hace casi un año, en marzo de 2006. las primeras sospechas apuntaban a que las mujeres que estaban ejerciendo la prostitución en diversos domicilios de la capital eran menores de edad. las pesquisas realizadas en uno de ellos echaron por tierra esa primera hipótesis, pero dieron como fruto que las mafias 'vendían' a los clientes que las mujeres, todas chinas, no habían cumplido la mayoría. es más, la juventud de las chicas era uno de los 'ganchos' principales, ya que, en los anuncios que se utilizaban para captar a los clientes, se ponía énfasis en su supuesta corta edad e, incluso, para acentuar su aspecto aniñado, se decoraban las habitaciones de los prostíbulos con elementos infantiles, como muñecos y peluches.

las alrededor de 100 prostitutas que trabajaban para estos grupos lo hacían de manera voluntaria, a excepción de una, que llegó a denunciar por violación a uno de los amigos del responsable de uno de los locales. la habían despojado, para explotarla sexualmente, de sus documentos.

para captar a las chicas, los integrantes de las bandas ponían anuncios en la prensa que se edita en madrid en idioma chino. para conseguir clientes, la publicidad se insertaba en publicaciones españolas. las redes no erep001imaban en gastos, y sólo en publicidad se dejaban 12.000 euros al mes. en cuanto al alquiler de los pisos, el control de las trabajadoras, el traslado a casa de los clientes y el pago a las meretrices, les costaba unos 18.000 euros mensuales. por lo que se desprende de las investigaciones, las seis organizaciones no tenían vínculos entre sí, ya que no se hacían la competencia. las ganancias eran muy importantes: 14 millones de euros entre todas, de los que la mitad iban a las trabajadoras del sexo.

también, según fuentes policiales, se ha detectado algún caso en los que estas mafias contaban con una empresa tapadera que utilizaban para legalizar a estas chicas en nuestro país. de lo que también se tiene constancia es de las conexiones de estos grupos con las 'tríadas' chinas que operan en la comunidad de madrid y tampoco se descartan lazos con otras a nivel internacional.

asimismo, se han imputado delitos de blanqueo de capitales, puesto que se han detectado ingresos de 350.000 euros realizados con transferencias desde bancos españoles a china. estas transferencias se nutrían de ingresos en efectivo realizados a diario. de este modo, el juez ha decretado el bloqueo de algunas cuentas bancarias de varios encausados.

pese a su falta de conexión, estos grupos utilizaban un similar 'modus operandi'. una o dos personas dirigían y gestionaban la organización, y las meretrices en las que más confiaban se encargaban de recibir, atender y cobrar a los clientes -incluso con tarjeta de crédito-. no faltaban limpiadoras y cocineras. los cambios de domicilio de los responsables estaban a la orden del día, hasta el punto de obstaculizar la labor policial. las mujeres rotaban por los prostíbulos, situados en los distritos de salamanca, ciudad lineal, centro, usera, puente de vallecas y tetuán.

el perfil de los clientes era de lo más variado, y las tarifas dependían de éstos. y, por cierto, no les faltaban, puesto que 'atendían' hasta a 60 personas al día en cada lupanar, hasta el punto de haber hasta 18 hombres esperando su turno para practicar sexo. en cuanto al perfil de las chicas, se valoraba la edad -cuanto más jóvenes, mejor-, su aspecto físico, la disponibilidad, la aceptación de las reglas y el reparto de beneficios. algunas de las jóvenes llegaban a tomar voluntariamente medicamentos para evitar la menstruación, y así trabajar todos los días. a raíz de la operación policial, los anuncios de estas redes han desaparecido de la prensa.

[Neil340]

There were reports in yesterday's Madrid newspapers that the authorities have closed down several Chinese establishments, including Calle de Ambros, of which there was a photograph in 'El Mundo', as most of the workers there were illegal immigrants or the victims of trafficking.

The establishments were also being used for money laundering. However all the workers except one said (note ... said) that they worked there voluntarily.

One evening earlier this week I went into a 'bar' (forgotten the name) on Calle de Azcona, the extension of Avenida Bruselas in the upmarket Parque de las Avenidas area, and after paying €40 for a beer and a 'champagne' (yeah right) for the second girl who approached me, was asked for €80 to go the back for a jacuzzi and fuck. She was a very attractive dark haired Colombian girl, well educated and well spoken, and said it would be 'about 20 minutes' so I declined but carried on chatting to her, mostly about her country, which I know very well. She agreed to come to my hotel after she'd finished for €300 but quickly reduced this to €150 when I said I was not willing to pay any more.

She turned up at about 3 am and stayed until just before 9. I got two not very spectacular fucks, but she had a nice body and was very pleasant but like many Colombians (and most women!) talked too much. Also in her favour she didn't seem to be very interested in the money. She didn't ask for it at any stage and I gave it to her as she was leaving my room and she didn't even count it, just folded it up and put into into her bag.

[Jay Dawg]

Background:

As I had a day in transit in Madrid (coming from Southamerica and continuing further north in Europe) I needed something to do. I could have gone to see some old churches and stuff, but having done my homework, I decided to go for a whole other type of sightseeing.

The Options
According to this very forum I had a few options to choose from: Atocha Street, several massage parlours, some upscale clubs, SW's and the two highway clubs: "Factory Air" (FA) and "Flowers Park" (FP). As I had about one day in transit and I was staying at a hotel smack in the middle of everything (Gran Via and Monterra) there were few limitations in terms of transport (no car, though - FA out) and availibility. Actually Monterra is literally crawling with SW's. That kind of ladies are not "my thing", though, and after having read, and reread, the Madrid thread, it seemed like FP would be the best option.

The Logistics
I found an internet café and checked WSG for updated information and the precise travel instructions. These are very precisely given and easy to follow. I was a little worried wheter I would be able to find FP from the train station as the only instruction I could find was: "cross the highway using the bridge". These worries were however not needed as the place is very easy to find.

I went to the "Principe Rio" train station (by foot, for the fresh air and sightseeing). There I bought a return ticket to "Las Matas" in a ticket machine, costing three-euro-and-something but less than four. Everything is marked out fine and the information given at the station makes it easy to catch the right train (all stops are listed on a lightboard the last 5 min. before the train arrives). I took pictures of timetables and maps for later reference and if I should get lost.

The train ride is about 20 min. Exiting the station and climbing the bridge I saw why no further information is given. From the bridge a huge pink sign saying Flowers Park is clearly visible. Crossing to the other side FP is an easy 5 min. walk against the traffic.

The Place
The entrance looks like the entrance to a casino or fine hotel so I found myself dubblechecking before I went in, but once inside and down the stairs there was no doubt, this was what I came for! The place is not huge but on this normal wednesday evening aroound 7pm I found the place packed with beautiful women. Quite a few gentlemen were present as well but the ratio ws something like 3:1 in favor of the ladies.

My first stop was, for purely natural reasons (i.e. intake of fluids), the bathroom, where I could witness two of the young ladies arguing passionately in som easteuropean language (made a mental note to avoid those two, as I do not want to end up in some EE showdown). On to the bar, I did a round to check out the talent and to find a place to position myself. The bar is the dominating structure that fills the room and the majority of the people were seated around this. There was also a (stripper) stage but this was not being used.

The Talent
I would estimate that around 50 ladies of all shapes and sizes were present at the time of my arrival. Ranging from a few 5's over some 6's, a lot of 7-8's and even some 9's. I did not see any 10's but I am a hard judge ;-)

The ladies would present themselves as originating from Brazil, Venezuela, Romania and a few other exotic places, almost all spoke Spanish and some of them could muster a decent English as well. As mentioned elsewhere, no Spanish ladies were present. The dressing style of the ladies ranged from underwear where breast spilled over the edges to almost normal evening dresses, again a little bit for every taste.

The Game
I got my beer (9 freaking €!) which I would need to play my part of the game (and I did arrive the very same morning from SA, so relaxing with a beer looking at beautiful women did seem like a good idea!). As advertised on this board the more agressive ladies would come up to me and initiate conversation. They would start with a small introduction (name, country) and then use different tricks to try and make me forget all about my beer. The tricks ranged from simply calling me "guapo" and smiling, over putting breasts in my head and making me feel asses and skin, grapping my hand, to more complicated games.

My plan was to enjoy my beer, watch the talent and the scene, and then see what I felt like, so I had to turn down quite a few interesting offers. The beer served as an "excuse" to not go upstairs with the ladies "as I was enjoying my beer". Most of them understood the hint and would not press on after this remark had been landed.

After finishing my beer I decided that I wanted something with medium sized breasts, not too big, not too small (had to turn down a very nice "petite" lady due to small breasts and a very small, albeit very fit, body!) I stayed put, though, making the ladies make the first contact.

The Lady of the Day
After a while this pretty young Romanian comes up to me (I cannot remember her name nor her age but I would guess it at 25). Very slim body with large, natural breasts, not the prettiest face (but not ugly!) a piercing in the upperlip and a (medium sized) tatoo on the lower back, black hair (possibly coloured) and a quiet not too agressive attitude. She was wearing black pants and a black bra, no shirt.

We negociated in the bar. She says 70€ for everything including anal. I specify BBBJ and she agrees. I did not haggle on the price as I do not find it worth haggling over 10€, when she started in the reasonable area.

The Deed
She takes me upstairs, asks for 5€ for sheets and then takes me to the room. Undressing and then to the bathroom for a washing of "MiniMe" (fair enough since she is going to have him in her mouth and she has no way of knowing that we just showered). I did feel a little uneasy leaving all my stuff unattended in her room but nothing happened (two rooms share a bathroom so we did actually exit her room with my stuff in it). Then we go back in to the room where she asks for her money. Money changes hands and she throws them on the table, quickly turning her attention back to me as she starts the BBBJ. All in all a very decent BBBJ, but no angels appearing.

After a while she mounts the condom and asks which position I prefer (Nice touch). I ask about the anal but she declines, saying I am too big (bullshit, I am perfectly standard) and I choose not to pursue as I did not specify it in the bar. Then it is missionary, I do not see nor feel lubricant being applicated, on to doggie which gives a brilliant impression with her slim body being impaled as ass-cheeks are moulded in my hands and big breast bouncing free in the air. Due to her small body there was no "booty" experience but her tightness made up for that. Then back to missionary (her sugestion) where I finish inside her with her big natural breasts going back and forth with each thrust as she is fingering herself with one hand and carressing my nipples with another. During the seesion she keeps the noise at a reasonable level. No porn-screaming, but som well timed naturally sounding groans and small screams made for a nice enviroment.

The Aftermath
After the deed is done I remove the condom before she gets a chance and then we once again go to the bathroom to wash up, first her, then me (we did have to wait a couple of minutes for a cleaning lady to finish, rather strange standing there in nothing but what the heck!). Then back to the room fot dressing and smalltalking.

The Arrangement
The ladies live, eat, shower, f**k, work, s**t and do everything else in the hotel. For this they pay 75€ a day. The rest of the money they can keep. The hotel looks very nice and if one did not know what was going on it could easily be a 3-4 star hotel (interior, I did not get a good look from the outside). The rooms and beds are big, spacious and comfortable.

The Getaway
The young lady showed me an exit I could use if I did not want to go through the bar and then I was on my way back to the train station. I did not make sure that the train I took stopped at "Principe Rio", so I ended up at another station but through the efficient metro systemt this small blunder, for which I was responsible - not the spanish railroads, only cost me an extra 15-20 min. of traveling, so no harm done.

The Resumé
Total Damage (3.6 + 9 + 70 + 5 =) 87.6€

The Logistics: 7 (easy to reach, but require travel and time)
The Place: 8 (Nice enviroment, good ratio but some ladies are a little pushy)
The Talent: Average 7-8
The Game: 8 (lots of interactivity with the ladies but no chance of being left alone)
The Lady of the Day: 9 (Face: 8; Body 9; Performance 9; Attitude 9.5)
The Deed: 9

Likely to Repeat: Yes, if travel plans and chance give me the opportunity.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Nicholai Hel]

I have been to the chinese place in Calle de Ambros 2 times in last 10 days and noone opened the door. Maybe it was my bad luck or maybe it's closed. If anyone knows anything or their phone number, it'd be highly appreciated if he shares the information.

[Neil340]

It seems as if Calle Ambros 4 has closed down. The cellphone number referenced here and elsewhere is now defunct and I went round twice, once late afternoon and once at night, and it is shuttered and dark.

I went to the place at Toreros 27 near the Ventas (Bullring) on Sunday night. It is very clean and pleasant. I paid EUR 160 for an hour. Choice of girls was a very tall slim Russian, a dark and slightly bulky darkish girl, possibly Dominican, and another tall blonde. I chose the Russian and was initially disappointed when she took her top off as she had tiny but saggy tits, quite a turn off really. She was quite enthusiastic and gave me a good BBBJ to start then a long massage then got me going again and I had a second pop doggy style while she kept saying : Que fuerte eres ... (how strong you are) but I guess this was kind of parrot fashion as she spoke very little Spanish and even less English. She was very pleasant and in the end I was not disappointed.

Unfortunately due to what I trust was an error with the credit card machine, they charged my account three times but when I went round this afternoon to sort this out they were very apologetic and I believe it was a mistake. They have promised to fix it with the bank tomorrow and I will post here when I know the result. I have already asked the bank to note this and if it is not rectified I will go to the police .... however at this stage I am convinced it was a genuine error as the girl who took my payment really did not seem to know what she was doing when the machine jammed and I don´t think she knew how to cancel the transaction.

I also found a place in Calle Diego de Leon, no 63 (1 Centro Izq). Two girls, EUR 60 for 30 minutes. Everything offered and I got more than half an hour, girls not that great though. Change of shift every 8 hours.

There are a lot of "clubs"around the area where I am staying, most charge 30 E for a ´drink´for the girls, some of whom especially the black ones are very pushy and quite offputting, and then 80-100 E to take a girl to the back for a shag. Not good value but you do have more choice and a chance to chat.

The best is to take the small ads from the papers, but you do have to be able to speak Spanish and know your way around Madrid to take this route. Mostly it´s less than 100 E for an hour, and if you get there and don´t like the girl/s on offer, you go elsewhere.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Great Wall]

Discussion board does not cover Ciudad Real area. Is there any scope there?

[Out for Flesh]

According to a local community forum, FP may be moving to a new premises - just across the road, in the "Hotel Jazmin". There is indeed a building been built there.

[El Burro]

Hey Guys,

Just a quick question. Does anyone have any idea if Factory Air is open on Sundays?

Thanks

Yes though Sunday in the club can be quieter.

[Texanguy11]

Hey Guys,

Just a quick question. Does anyone have any idea if Factory Air is open on Sundays?

Thanks

[Claudio New]

Went there last week around 10pm, first to Atocha 45, 2b, there were only 3 girls, all of them fairly ugly, possibly there were others but they were busy, so I left. Next I went to Atocha 107, 2E: there I found a better variety, around 6 or 7, of which at least 3 attractive. Choose Andrea, from Venezuela, about 7 for the face and 9 for the body. She was also very nice and sweet, washed before the act, and was very sexy although she was a bit faking it, however I have to say her attitude was very positive and sweet. It cost me 80 for 30 mins but she never looked at the watch, 45 mins is 100 and I think 1hr should be 120. Overall a good experience, only thing negative is the neighbourhood which is not so nice and with few people around.