American Women

[Happy Chappy]

What is the definition of small minority that absolutely needs to pay? I'm 44, average shape, great career, I can definitely afford to take out AW and show them a good time. But frankly its not worth my time and effort, because the better looking one will require more time and effort to unlock. Sure I can easily cruise local places and pick up less attractive women, but I'd rather go abroad and have my feast of hotties in their 20's.

perfectly summed up.

[Rock Dog]

Cyber et al.

Naw man, there's nothing strange about that at all. I myself have experienced what I like to call "the superman effect".

In one place, you're joe average, then you go somewhere tropical.... and all of a sudden you're superman! No woman too good looking to talk to. No pussy that's too classy to have a taste of.

I'd take a few pics while on vacation. Nothing "incriminating" if you know what I mean. Just some pics of you and one or two of the local hotties shopping, hangin' at a nice restaurant or whatever.

Show them to some of your local AWs and watch as they re-evaluate. Be very obscure when they start asking te inevitable questions. If they can't tell whether or not your hot friends are "for real"....(but they are, photos!! ) they will slowly go nuts.

Rock

[Paesano63]

What is the definition of small minority that absolutely needs to pay? I'm 44, average shape, great career, I can definitely afford to take out AW and show them a good time. But frankly its not worth my time and effort, because the better looking one will require more time and effort to unlock. Sure I can easily cruise local places and pick up less attractive women, but I'd rather go abroad and have my feast of hotties in their 20's.

[Elusive]

To paraphrase Charlie Sheen, " I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave"!

[Cyberdas]

Women, and society in general (which seems to add up to the same thing these days) just don't understand this concept. What's more, they don't WANT to understand it. There are always a few guys that go the P4P route bc it's their only option, but they are definitely a small minority.

Rock

Unfortunately, I belong to that "small minority". If it weren't for the proximity to Mexico that I enjoy having being located in Los Angeles, I would've been like a dead fish out of water. I'm pretty much like a fish out of water over here except with the opportunity to dive into water now and then so as to avoid becoming completely dead. LOL!! Not a gratifying experience, that's for sure and definitely nothing to brag and much less so, feel happy about. I consider myself to be average looking, I exercise, diet and take good care of myself (i.e. clean-cut, well groomed, etc...) I'm 35 years old and with a relatively normal lifestyle (i.e. college graduate, versed in several languages, no drugs, stable employment, etc..) And yet again, I have to travel abroad to get it, one way or another, either through p4p or through non-pro women. I totally agree with the posters here who complaint about AW and their horrific attitudes and personalities. Funny how most of that goes away the moment I'm only a few yards south of the U.S. border. Go figure!!!!

[Doctor_Skank]

This has been said a number of times in different forums, but is worth repeating here. Society(in reality, female propaganda) has it all wrong. Most of us pay for it when we choose to..... and we do so for the convenience. We do so for the variety. We do so because we are the lucky ones who can afford to have that kind of fun.

Women, and society in general (which seems to add up to the same thing these days) just don't understand this concept. What's more, they don't WANT to understand it. There are always a few guys that go the P4P route bc it's their only option, but they are definitely a small minority.

Rock

Exactly. Women just don't want to hear it. Just like they don't want to hear that some of those pros are smokin' hot.

[Rock Dog]

This has been said a number of times in different forums, but is worth repeating here. Society(in reality, female propaganda) has it all wrong. Most of us pay for it when we choose to..... and we do so for the convenience. We do so for the variety. We do so because we are the lucky ones who can afford to have that kind of fun.

Women, and society in general (which seems to add up to the same thing these days) just don't understand this concept. What's more, they don't WANT to understand it. There are always a few guys that go the P4P route bc it's their only option, but they are definitely a small minority.

Rock

[Brain666]

Some statistics:
My company is quite multinational and we are sending people across the world. We have subsidiaries in Thailand and Brazil.

Each project in Brazil and Thailand, also Indonesia, China etc. results in a 70% divorce rate within or shortly after the assignment. This happens from People out of Europe, US, UK and also Australia and affects all rankings from hourly paid people to vice president with higher %-tag for the higher ranking. Lets say 60% 'only' for the hourly and 100% for sure for vice president and executive directors. The non-divorces have to 100% a girlfriend, mostly a pay-freebee (you know what I mean: Compensation indirect). Divorce rate is 0 % for Brazilians, Asians moving to US or Europe.

Regards

Brain666

[CBGBConnisur]

In reality, in China, fat women are considered status symbols the same way platinum blondes are considered "trophies" in the West. I saw a program on TV about a modern Chinese couple in Shanghai, the husband was fit but the wife was HUGE, during the show the husband took his wife to the supermarket. Still most Asian women are slim and conform to the Western notion of beauty that most of us value but that's just part of the attitude in a part of the world where there is a lot of economic disparity and food is never taken for granted. Thailand is getting expensive by Asian standards, not quite Westernized but Indonesia with over a population of 150 million women offers a lot more.

Prices change quickly, in the 90's, Prague was considered a bargain basement place to meet beautiful women, now its one of the most expensive places in Europe. You will have to go further East into former Soviet territory to find good value. I heard amazing things about Kazakhstan, maybe Borat wasn't kidding.

Charlie Sheen banging hookers, that is not strange at all even though someone like that should be able to get it for free. Some people actually like that because they just want a moment of hot sex and to make everything else go away. Rich and famous guys attract gold diggers.

[Rock Dog]

Charlie Sheen has probably banged more hookers than any member here on the ISG, would you call him fat and unattractive? Just curious.
Actually, I wonder what Mr. Sheen's screenname here on the ISG is?

Awww damn! I knew I was gonna get busted one of these days!

Rock

ps. just kidding..... as if.

[Opebo]

Anyways, why do you think we are all fat, aging and unattractive, because we pay for sex? In case you haven't noticed, all men pay for sex, no matter how "handsome" they are. Just to give you an example, Charlie Sheen has probably banged more hookers than any member here on the ISG, would you call him fat and unattractive?

Well, yes, Ezinho, Mr. Sheen is now a rather old man is he not? I doubt he could be considered so attractive these days. My point was not about what sort of man pays for sex, or how, or how much, but rather about a bit of hubris in some of the posts here.

Certainly we may all complain about the devious American woman, but I see no difference between them and the women here. I have never tried marriage with either sort, but I'm sure it would be equally disastrous.

I'm also ready to admit that we men are unlikely to be very attractive as we age, though I admit also that I know nothing about what women find 'attractive'.

To me the 'secret' is not locale as much as it is the elixir of prostitution. If this wonderful practice were legalized in the Bad Place, I'm sure it would improve life there immediately, just as here in Thailand things get worse every year as prostitution is slowly but surely brought to heel.

[Opebo]

I can easily get it for free from hotties in Japan. My GF's from China & Japan have been great experiences; I'll never go back to American. So far my part anyway, I'm not talking just about the "hobby".

I congratulate you! I have also gotten 'free' sex here in Thailand, but only with various old maids and less attractive women which the Thai men won't have. I much prefer prostitutes.

Perhaps perversely, my girlfriends in America were hotter by far than any freebie I've had in Asia, and actually hotter than most prostitutes I have had here. To be fair I'm a very economy minded shopper, and I left the US at about 32 (anyone can get hot girls in his twenties), and now I'm nearing 40.

Overall my impression has never been one that the women are generally that much better here or there. I also find sexual skills to be comparable. My expatriation is more about price and availability - as well as general quality of life issues like cost of living and good food - than about any innate preference for Asian women or dislike of American ones.

[Ezinho]

I find the criticism of white women for their unfortunate physiques to be a bit unfair, for are we not all fat, aging, and unattractive?

Well, I'm no Chippendales dancer, but I'm none of those things you've mentioned.

Actually, that is a pretty stupid statement you made, it sounds like something some of my buddies would say that have never left the U.S. in their entire lives. And besides, this thread isn't about "White Women" as you put it, it's about "American Women": they can come in any race/religion/etc.

Anyways, why do you think we are all fat, aging and unattractive, because we pay for sex? In case you haven't noticed, all men pay for sex, no matter how "handsome" they are. Just to give you an example, Charlie Sheen has probably banged more hookers than any member here on the ISG, would you call him fat and unattractive? Just curious.

Actually, I wonder what Mr. Sheen's screenname here on the ISG is?

[Yogin]

They are not simply better merely because they are getting paid. They are superior in all ways. I can easily get it for free from hotties in Japan. My GF's from China & Japan have been great experiences; I'll never go back to American. So far my part anyway, I'm not talking just about the "hobby".

[Opebo]

Do you travel much?

Well, brother, I live in Thailand. And I suppose I've travelled and a little - Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia, the Philippines, Madagascar, Switzerland, Czechy, South Korea, and Singapore, plus many many more, but I will only count those within which I engaged in our wonderful hobby.

Have you seen how an AVERAGE girl in Thailand, China or Japan for example would be considered a stunner in the US? We aren't talking about random cultural & genetic differences & variation here. We are talking about choices they make as to how to be in the world. Sure there are a tiny handful of attractive white girls here with decent healthy enlightened attitudes. But the odds, the numbers are awful. Even the Asian-Americans who are born here and are totally hot have been brainwashed by Christian conservatism & feminism, becoming mercenary men-hating castrating frigid bitches. We just advocate going where the picking is better than a needle in a haystack.

Btw: I'm not fat, take good care of myself, & am often mistaken for being ten years younger!

Yogin, I do not dispute the advisability of searching for prostitutes in the third world as opposed to the first (I wholeheartedly embrace this strategy). Nor, if you notice, do I dispute that Southeast Asian girls are more attractive generally than whites. I merely made the point that it was a bit unfair not to mention that we white males are unattractive in a similar way - lumbering, flabby, lumpy, smelly, etc. This is kindly overlooked - for a fee - by the prostitute in asia, but, I rather doubt by anyone else.