2006 Bangkok Reports

[Bonio]

For those of you who have had the great pleasure of Anny at Aviva Massage on Soi 8. This is just to say she's not there anymore.

But the good news is she's now freelance and is still happy to give those 'special' massages but now at your hotel or a local friendly hotel of your or her choosing. She's contactable on her mobile at any time. If you haven't had the pleasure just 'thread' her name or aviva and she's cums up with full marks give her a call [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

[BuleDaddy]

BuleDaddy,

While it's interesting that you are trying to draw a comparison between the two cities, the "tip too much and eventually everything will be inflated" argument has been going on for at least 15-20 years if not more. I heard it on my first visit and have been hearing it ever since. Nothing has changed noticebly, outside of the fact that in the last few years I see more Japanese money in the economy and I'm not talking about the P4P scene. I'm talking investment money and more job opportunities.

What will really impact the hobby scene is the developing economy and the availability of better paying jobs outside of the P4P scene. That is why P4P is so expensive in developed countries. The woman have more job opportunities and it will take more money to sway them into the P4P scene. From what I have seen in the last 5 years, I would be more concerned from that standpoint. Basic supply and demand. I don't think demand will change much, but I can certainly see the supply side shrinking.

I have never worried about what some other person has tipped. I don't think a waitress in the U.S. would expect a $1,000 tip from the next person just because her last customer was Bill Gates. The Thai girls know what an average tip is and a 1,500 baht tip is not average.

AT2

Ask any bartender working near the studios in LA. Those very high-paid studio execs are the cheapest most demanding a-holes on earth. Sports figures, actors, and actresses often think their check should be housed because they grace you with their presence. I'm sure Bill leaves 15% and no more. All my trust fund brat friends are dirt cheap. They (rich punks) usually don't even carry money around when you go out. I've been stiffed by such scoundrels when I loaned them money in Fla. or overseas when their allotment in their spendthrift trust was maxed out or when they claimed their card magnetic strip was shot (lies now doubt). Nothing more fun than putting the "key" to their new Land Rover back home! As for infated prices, in 2001 in Pattaya it was 500 bht for a st and 1000 for a LT when you got 39 bht for the dollar and everthing in Pattaya was cheaper. If you gave the girl a 200bht tip on top of the 500bht they wai'd and bowed down like crazy. Most of the world is unemployed, and the biggest industry in Thailand is probably booty for hire. Name one Spanish speaking industrial power. Maybe Mexico? Where are they all trying to get to?

Thailand and Brazil are very similar in many ways. They are very different than their neighbors, they have a huge p4p thing going, a gigantic ladyboy population, a very violent underworld, a distain for foreigners, and they both think they are the center of the universe.

The Europeans in Rio told me about the American non-haggling attitude, and in Ipanema the girls off the beach wanted 300br, ($150) the last time I was there. Sure she was beautiful, and smoked great pole and did the butt thaing but she was a kunt that thought her merde was gelado.

The hotel prices have almost doubled in the past 3 years in Pattaya. Bangkok had remained stable. Tip one of the old bell hops at the Nana 100bht for two bags when you check in, and they whine "cannot buy beah with that", I got a driver fired in Jakarta when he got all nasty with me for giving him a 50,000ir ($5) tip for taking me from the Airport to Glodok. Pretend you are English and they leave you alone. If you are American and you tip they try to squeeze more out of you. I'm not babbling for the sake of babbling, but next thing you know the trollups will want their money up front.

[AsiaTraveler2]

The Blowjob feels a little hot. No worries, I’m thinking, it’s just the contrast between the Cold towel wipe and the hot mouth.

She sucks for a little while and I play with her small tits and Ass. I come quite fast and she excuses herself to go clean up. My dick still feels a little hot. .

She comes back, cleans it with Fresh and Cold wipes but it’s still hot. Dammit. By the time I dress up and we’re ready to go, my dick burns. It is itchy and hot. I look at her and rub my cock in an uncomfortable way. She smiles and Says "sorry, I eat spicy food before going with you"

Jesus Christ! My pants are on Fire LOL and all she can say is Sorry? Why did she even go with me since she knew she ate spicy food? These girls are pros, they know that spicy food will get your cock on fire!

Wow! And I thought the Chinese came up with the Fire and Ice routine. LOL!

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

I know the Tipping issue is a Never ending issue and will never be resolved, so why not just leaving it up to each punter and Provider?

Nic,

Exactly! Why is it that some hobbyists feel compelled to tell others how to spend their money? I just don't get it! I don't tell people what kind of car they must buy, what type of food they must eat, which countries they must visit, or how much they must spend on any of that stuff. It's THEIR money!

Yet, the inevitable criticism comes along. Even the "selfish" angle! LOL! It never ends.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

But it will be when it is too late. Rio used to have 6 Reals to a dollar and gringos inflated the booty market down there by not haggling and tipping too much. Now is is 2 Reals to a dollar and the cariocas still want the same compensation. The same is happening in Thailand, only the cariocas can outperform circles around any Thai woman. That 1500bht tip equaled another short time + 1/2. They laugh at you when you are generous. In 10-20 years people will be wiping their ass with the dollar and Chinese will be coming to the USA for knobbers from our women, so enjoy the hoot ride while it lasts.

BuleDaddy,

While it's interesting that you are trying to draw a comparison between the two cities, the "tip too much and eventually everything will be inflated" argument has been going on for at least 15-20 years if not more. I heard it on my first visit and have been hearing it ever since. Nothing has changed noticebly, outside of the fact that in the last few years I see more Japanese money in the economy and I'm not talking about the P4P scene. I'm talking investment money and more job opportunities.

What will really impact the hobby scene is the developing economy and the availability of better paying jobs outside of the P4P scene. That is why P4P is so expensive in developed countries. The woman have more job opportunities and it will take more money to sway them into the P4P scene. From what I have seen in the last 5 years, I would be more concerned from that standpoint. Basic supply and demand. I don't think demand will change much, but I can certainly see the supply side shrinking.

I have never worried about what some other person has tipped. I don't think a waitress in the U.S. would expect a $1,000 tip from the next person just because her last customer was Bill Gates. The Thai girls know what an average tip is and a 1,500 baht tip is not average.

AT2

[BuleDaddy]

I do not agree. He one's that do not tip, or tip less probably benefit from the fact that some of us tip generously.

But it will be when it is too late. Rio used to have 6 Reals to a dollar and gringos inflated the booty market down there by not haggling and tipping too much. Now is is 2 Reals to a dollar and the cariocas still want the same compensation. The same is happening in Thailand, only the cariocas can outperform circles around any Thai woman. That 1500bht tip equaled another short time + 1/2. They laugh at you when you are generous. In 10-20 years people will be wiping their ass with the dollar and Chinese will be coming to the USA for knobbers from our women, so enjoy the hoot ride while it lasts.

[Pirate1]

Maybe member 2400 mean to say pay 1500b total include tips. Otherwize he paying Jap pricing. Thatz price I normally pay total. 1000-1300b service and 200b tips.

Pirate1

[FreeWolf66]

nicfrenchy,

never had that problem at [CodeWord900] but did notice that there breath always smelled like listerine.

freewolf66

[Retired Army]

As an answer for a question in that matter:

I tipped 1500 after a great 90 minute 2 rounds, anal and all.

There was NO negotiation process and she smiled.

Could do for less? maybe.

Yeah, no shit! No wonder she was smiling, she hit the jackpot.

[Cornwall]

Tulip is an oil massage place.

The 90 minute oil massage costs 600 baht, payed to the house.

If you then go on to have full service with the girl, the standard payment is 1,500 baht, payed directly to the girl. I think (I hope) this is what Member 2400 was referring to as "a tip".

If member 2400 tipped the girl another 1,500 B on top of the 1,500 B already payed for full service, then yes, a tip like that is uncalled for.

Remember, in soapie massage places, the fee of $1800-2500 payed to the house includes full service. In oil massage places, the 600-800 payed to the house does not include full service.

[Freeman 418]

i'm in bkk now, and i guess i will write up some reports while i have the time, since when i get back i know i'll put it off.

day 1
- arrived 4:30pm, have to say day flights are easier and less tiring for me. got some food in the airport, then taxi to sukh. soi 33, since i had intention to stay at livingstone's lodge (first time, tho 4th trip to bkk). taxi cost around 340bt, fair bit of traffic for tue. afternoon.
- have to say livingstone's is a great place.. and will stay here again next time. owner is very friendly and helpful, nice pool-side set up, has a sports bar with great girls inside, and is a very low pressure environment. staff go out of their way to help as well. my kind of place totally.. and i've been in a few places in bkk.
- after check-in, some chatting around the lodge, etc., felt like a massage after the flight effects. walked around soi 33 a bit, there's quite a few to choose from in soi 33- about 4 so called "teen massage" places, akane, and at least 10 other non-descript massage places.

- chose some place called "teen 3 massage" which is around middle soi 33, and between 2 other more legit massage places. i'm a st kinda guy (get bored easily), and took the quicker option of 1 hour basic at 400bt. also on the list for all massages was the extra "ball massage" option @+100bt.. i think this is a waste, since i got a fairly lengthy ball massage anyway on the basic 400bt option.
massage was good, ie. semi-professional, the girl was 7/10, isaan looking, 22yo, medium build, short hair, forgot her name. she massaged in bra and underwear. turned over, she spend a good amount of time on the lower region. no complaints here. then after getting me g'd up, asked about extras.. prices: 1000bt hj and b2b and cbj, 1500bt fs.. had initial intention of only massage, no extras, but she was a cunning little thing, and in the end got me to do the full shebang. decent root, and kind of tight, i came pretty quickly (for me) and had to laugh, since they do know how to get their way.. happy to pay the full amount 1500+400 initial, didn't bother to tip, since she had won the day anyway in getting me to do fs at 1500bt. she was very happy.. could see her mates congrat's her when i walked out lol.

- back to hotel, had intention of hitting soi cowboy, but felt wasted, since it was a loooong day. chilled instead for a few hours in the sports bar, girl banter, and played pool etc. then went to bed.

day 2
- went for bfast at subway down the road on sukh. good bfast (totally forgot that bfast is included in hotel rate). there was some doped out european looking girl sitting in front tables with her feet right up on the railing facing all walkers who passed by.. this is of course a major offence to thai people.. dunno how some farangs can be so fcking stupid/insensitive.
- struck by the number of hot looking and dressed to kill women on the streets here..love how they all wear high heels. beats bombed out and fat western chicks in joggers lol. i've been here 5x, but you forget when you dont come often.
- there's a great supermarket on sukh. road (away from nana direction), has everything you could possibly need- between soi 33 and soi 33/1.
- took skytrain to siam.. did obligatory shopping in mbk etc., nice visuals there as well. shopped out and mind fcked after about 2 hours.
- felt like a relief session, and decided to tick off akane from my list of places to go.

- found the famous akane (underneath peep inn garage). 2 japs walking out as i walked in, they tried not to look up. i choose the 50min option s-1 (1 girl, fashion msg). about 12 girls in the line-up, maybe more. i couldnt decide, not easy. looked thru the line 2x and then on the 3rd time, picked out a girl, i *think* her name was sayuri (but can't be sure), low 20s, thin, isaan, dyed hair.
great choice.. she was fun to chat with, gr8 personality, and really went out of her way to do service (washing etc. like i was a kid again).
can't say i really enjoyed the "akane" routine- the whole "@sshole washing" routine was a bit hmmmm, and actually stings a bit.. but i know it's kinda necessary considering what follows in the next session.
- on the bed, not much massage, but application of warming jap gel onto my body, and then the girl's tongue all over (initially thought it was her breast).. quite a nice feeling. then up on all 4's for the a rimming and bj experience. quite nice and unusual. worth trying once. turn over, and get a cbj to completion.. took a looong while (the more you "do it" the longer it starts taking), but she did work really hard throughout to get me to completion. shower etc. and back downstairs.. paid the s-1 price 1100, and gave the girl 500 tip (felt about right). don't worry that you need to bring money to the room, since they put your stuff into a locker.. just pay at the end and slip her a tip when you walk out. i really liked the girl, she was a nice babe, and good personality.. would consider going back to see her.. but having the whole @sshole shower cleaning experience thing again? not sure..
- back to the hotel, swim, chill etc., eat.. going to hit cowboy tonight.. unless i go back to the lodge's sports bar and take out one of the girls who was keen last night.
to be continued..

fm.

[NicFrenchy]

dark night, lonely night. i found myself walking up sukhumvit from the nana bts, in no mood for a gogo night or bar outing, but still motivated to bust a quick nut.

immediately thought about [CodeWord900]. what better place for an in&out quick release?

walk the short distance to soi8 and see a few freelancers (never saw any street freelancers there before), went directly towards [CodeWord900].

smiled at all the girls outside and was not really in the mood for choosing. so i entered the place and a lady followed immediately. her name i did not really understand.

she was your average plain jane. maybe below average but who cares, i’m just here for a quick bj after all.

we go up and i sit on the sofa of my choice, she closes the curtains and i start to undress. she leaves the area for a few seconds and i catch a glimpse of her name tag: yuy is her name. no idea how to pronounce it in thai but don’t really care either.

she comes back and wipes my pecker clean. she starts sucking immediately and i sit back, relax, close my eyes to enjoy.

the blowjob feels a little hot. no worries, i’m thinking, it’s just the contrast between the cold towel wipe and the hot mouth.

she sucks for a little while and i play with her small tits and ass. i come quite fast and she excuses herself to go clean up. my dick still feels a little hot. .

she comes back, cleans it with fresh and cold wipes but it’s still hot. dammit. by the time i dress up and we’re ready to go, my dick burns. it is itchy and hot. i look at her and rub my cock in an uncomfortable way. she smiles and says "sorry, i eat spicy food before going with you"

jesus christ! my pants are on fire lol and all she can say is sorry? why did she even go with me since she knew she ate spicy food? these girls are pros, they know that spicy food will get your cock on fire!

in my mind, she had no excuse and was guilty as charged. even if i blew my load and she performed the service i paid for, the experience was not very pleasurable. even less now that my dick was burning.

paid 700 to the counter and no tip to the girl. thought about giving her 1thb for the sake of making a point but thought better of it.

0/10 for yuy and will definitely not take her again.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

[FreeWolf66]

there are all kinds of bars to monger in. the beer garden in soi7 from sukamvit, eden club and [CodeWord900] a bj bar. there is one further on that opens late and is filled with freelancers. i found out that the last is filled with many of those that are on escort sites trying to get the last bang out of an empty night. the beer garden is great. if you need more info contact me. i'll try to get the name of the other freelancer bar.

freewolf66

[NicFrenchy]

As an answer for a question in that matter:

I tipped 1500 after a great 90 minute 2 rounds, anal and all.

There was NO negotiation process and she smiled.

Could do for less? maybe.

Hold on a second here. You need to clarify your statement a bit :

1. did you pay her 1500 only for the whole session (making it : 600 for the Store and 3000 for the gal)

2. you paid the normal 1500 and tipped 1500 over and above the initial amount? (making it : 600 for the Store and 3000 for the gal)

I (naturally) tip the regular 1500 and if she allows Anal and gives outstanding service, I top it with a 1000 extra.

I know this will give our Cheap Charlies a heart attack. But I believe Excellent service needs to be rewarded. I know the Tipping issue is a Never ending issue and will never be resolved, so why not just leaving it up to each punter and Provider?

[BuleDaddy]

As an answer for a question in that matter:

I tipped 1500 after a great 90 minute 2 rounds, anal and all.

There was NO negotiation process and she smiled.

Could do for less? maybe.

Now that pooying is going to expect that from everybody.