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[AColonizer]

Hecker,

What is the correct answer of the following question:

10. In your country girls have sex on first date?

(Are you a normal person?)

[Hecker]

Au admitted what I wrote is true. It is not important if he is Indian or Arab. Probably he is Indian but the fact that he admitted (even bribes etc) shows he tells the truth. Other people simply refuse to talk or become aggresive.

I suspected he promises girls marriage to foreign men who in fact come for mongering. Now AU you write you actually do. This will cause harm to future people who will try to pick up in places like Lugansk. If a certain amount of girls will have been cheated to marriage, foreigners will gain a very bad reputation. The rumours spread easily in small cities and after a while Lugansk will be a place to avoid. Why scam poor girls? Of course some Lugansk girls scam foreigners who come for marriage. But why should foreigners do the same? We have a reputation, why destroy it?

I think this kind of behaviour is very opportunistic and harmful for other mongers and should be avoided. After all we should have some kind of solidarity.

[Hecker]

I agree there are no stunners in Dnipro streets but if you enter one of the big shopping centers or visit a disco like Labyrinth you will see lots of stunners packed. Dnipro is like a miniature of Kiev, you see the same quality of girls Kiev used to have 4 years ago. Now many much better looking girls have come to Kiev to work. In Dnipro like in Kiev there is a lot of construction, shopping centers with every brand, many banks. Unlike in Kiev there are not many Mercedes etc on streets, more Ladas and girls are not dressed so provocatively. It is easier to find a model looking girl young interested than in Kiev since competition is less, however the girls on average hesitate more to let you kiss or sleep with them immediately in comparison to Kiev. Each town has advantages and disadvantages. For a lower budget Dnipro is better. For quick action, more spending I suggest Kiev. In Dnipro people like to rip you off but do not have the opportunity to do so (short taxi routes, everything in the center, no full hotels etc). Also for Dnipro russian absolutely needed. Without russian language you have no chance.

[Anonymous]

Just going back to the subject.. I visited both cities on business (2 days Kharkiv, 1 day Dnipro). Kharkiv is officially a bigger city but Dnipro feels much larger for some reason. Both are pretty ugly and drub. I had to drill several pages back in that thread to find any relevant info (inbetween the often very irrelevant lengthy chita chat posted here - sorry guys), thanks Volpone

Kharkiv seemed to have a lot more nice girls walking around (maybe cause it has a big University) and a few youngsters on the street were speaking English. Only tried some phone numbers posted on this site before. They all worked and all spoke only russian as forewarned. Made it through via primitive russian from my side and some primitive english from the other side of the line. Tried 3, recommed 2:

phone: 7548455, Puschkinskaya 96, apt 51, code 38, 150 Griven ($30) an hour, descent girls, very friendly, very good service

phone: 7554257, next to Mc donals on Rosa Luxemberg square, 170 griven, i ve seen 2 very nice, young, slim tall girls. tried one, great value.

Dnipro, was a bit hectic for a day. there was nothing on the forum,, was ther for less than a day. just waled around, went to the malls and the bars on Karla Marxa (pleasant street to walk). have not seen any stunners on the street, everything s busy and pretty expensive, the city has money and you can notice. tried the grand hotel bar: dead. went to sleep early.

Took an aerosvit flight to kiev the next mornign operating a 40 yr old antonov 24. that was an experience.

[Hecker]

Many people will freak out if they see that such important issues are discussed in ISG.The fact alone that are discussed show sth about the decline of some certain studies.

FSU medical schools degrees are accredited in USA.However there is some conflict between americans who study in USA,americans studying abroad and foreigners coming to USA to specialize.It is known that most students pay to get a degree in FSU(not nly foreign students) and it is considered normal in EE countries to pay for a degree,it is part of the game.To get a position in work you also have to pay even for jobs with low wages.We see it as corruption they see it as buisness.

The future of foreigners getting degrees in these countries depends largely on decisions made by each governement which decisions aare driven by many factors,from national strategy to simply complying to the pressure from people whose parents have connections but they could not manage to get good grades to enter american universities.So this discussion does not have a point since other people decide about these subjects and their decisions are not based plainly on common sense.

USA has set for the last 50 years the barrier of USMLE exams for medical graduates(both american and foreigners) which keeps many foreign graduates unable to get license to work as doctors in USA.They manage to control the number of doctors simply by increasing the difficulty level of the USMLE exam every time the success rates increase.

In Europe the governments decide what to do and every state has different legislation.For example in France there are exams for foreign medical graduates like in USA,in Germany decision is taken by local governement,in Sweden they give license yo FSU graduates if they have language degree,in UK foreigners outside EU have to take the PLAB exams.

However the basic decisions regarding the number f foreigners to be accepted are made by each state separately apart from EU countries which have to accept every degree that was obtained in any of the other EU countries,even in countries like Poland,Hungary or Romania.

So theoretically a paid degree from Bulgaria has the same value with a difficult taken degree in France.The reality is that a graduate from Bulgaria will have a very difficult time finding a job in France while the French who studied in France will 100% find a residency in hospital.The same is for UK,Germany,Norway and every strong european country.

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[Bez Bezarra]

Bez, where have you been hiding?

Who's hiding. I just decided to sit back and let you all drown in your own insignificant drivel of conjealing splooge.

No, actually Bez has been a very busy little bee pollinating the sweet pretty flowers of our glorius motherland.

Where you ask?

Uh, wouldn't you love to know. Let's just say, I buzzed around where the pink rose buds were opening up in their bloom.

But at one point, I had my tongue so far up this chick's ass that I could taste her borscht before it got cold.

Or are you THAT slow you didn't notice I've already donated 4 new dyevs.

[Cruiser D]

Just to kick this subject a little more to death and to get it at least out of the photo thread.

I always thought that to become a medical doctor in the US you had to be licensed by which ever state(s) you plan on practicing in. Part of the licensing in the state I am from is graduating from an accredited medical school. I'm guessing the "glorious worker's school of medicine for third world students with enough money to cover the tuition" is not going to be on that list.

Maybe we should ask Dr. Skank? Paging Dr. Skank.

Bez, where have you been hiding? I simply vote the we call AU, AU. That way you can decide in your own mind what the 'A' stands for.

Hey Jack, thanks for the low down on Zap. , now I know why the girls have no problem traveling by train to come visit me in Kyiv.

[Bez Bezarra]

To all of you "guys" obsessed with AU in the photo gallery section, please stop it now. I am beginning to think that Hecker is so obsessed that he is actually gay, and some of you others are just about there as well.

AU is not a subject of this forum.

The purpose of the forum is not about AU.

AU has given many very lousy photos.

The rest of you are also brain dead.

It is no wonder the Ukraine board has slipped in quality.

I've only got one thing to say.

Kiss this zhopa!
(No really, I just gave it a good washing, so its completely sanitary.)

[Jack 2004]

Dear gentlemen,

I wish somebody visits it and have more success than me! I have traveled to Ukraine many times, and I know different towns. I only speak survival Russian. The general advices of experienced travellers are confirmed, but this is my opinion:

1st. Difficult to find normal (western standard) flats. In fact I couldn’t find any, but the one’s avaible are cheap (USD 30.-).

2nd. Difficult transport in a very big town, more than 30 km. long. Private cars don’t stop!! and taxis normally only with a previous phone call. Somebody gave me number 567 to phone from mobilni. I was said it was valid for the whole Ukraine. I have traveled there many times, and it’s the 1st time I need it. Some scams too.

3rd. People usually not very friendly. Taxist (several) didn’t know about girls !! Some very nice and kind girls in town, but teenagers.

4th. Only 1 strip bar, in Hotel Inturist. 4/5 interesting girls, but they insisted they are only dancers!! UAH 50, entrance. UAH. 100, Cocktails for girls. UAH. 200, Short private dance.

5th. Two big discos. Sahara and Crow Bar. Dead, except in weekends.

It,s true too that now it,s not a very good season to go there, because students have exams very near.

That was my experience.

[Doctor_Skank]

Actually I think the questions are inevitable, largely normal and not necessarily a gestapo shakedown... depends on the situation.

If you are in a club like 112 or Arena or RP... then yeah, it most likely is a shakedown for information to size you up. (can't they just take a look in my trousers?) In any case, think of it as sport... or foreplay.

If in a normal dating situation she is probably just curious about the guy she is considering starting something with. Even though the questions are intended to provide her information about your background, relative wealth, reason for being in Ukraine and personality I don't think this is necessarily "evil".... but more just part of the game... par for the course.

In any case, I try to remain largely truthful in my answers for a simple reason... if you are dating a bunch of girls, its hard to keep a web of lies and deceit straight.

My take:

What are you doing in Ukraine: say work... or at least something that suggests you will come to Ukraine fairly often.

Have you been married: I say yes... I don't want them to think I am some desperate fool looking for a bride. I do however say that I would consider remarrying if I met the right girl.

Children: I say I do... after all, I'm not impotent. Guys over 30 without kids confuse Ukrainian girls. If you don't have any, don't claim you do. But if you do, there is no reason to lie and say you don't.

Are there no beautiful girls in your country: I tell them there are lots of beautiful women in the US.... but I don't like the fact that they are losing their femininity. This is what Ukrainian girls like to hear. It's up to her to show me how feminine SHE can be. Telling them that all American girls are fat or unattractive just puts Ukrainian girl in a power position. I don't allow that to happen.

Have you had a Ukrainian girlfriend before: I just look at them and smile and move on to the next question. Keep her guessing, suggesting she has competition.

Can we go to the shop? I never go shopping with girls. If I buy a girl a present it is because she deserves it. And I choose the present.

Do girls in your country have sex on first date? Yes, they do.

How long is your holiday? I take holiday whenever I want to.

Let's go for a walk. OK, then I walk with her to my apartment.

The rest I play by ear depending on the girl.

[Doctor_Skank]

1. Why did you come to Ukraine, for work?

...I like pussy.

Good answers IL!

[Irish Lad]

1. Why did you come to Ukraine, for work?

I like it here.

2. Why are you not married?

I’m too young.

3. Are there not beautiful girls in your country?

Of course there are.

4. Why do you come so often in Ukraine? Why Ukraine?

I live here. You’ll see my apartment later if you are good.

5. How long is the holiday in your country?

What?

6. Is your brother married?

I don’t have any brothers.

7. Do you take every girl to the shop?

I don’t take any girl to the shop.

8. Do you tell the same to every girl?

Oh do shut up.

9. How do you know russian?

I don’t.

10. In your country girls have sex on first date?

First date? It’s your only date.

11. Where is your ticket? May I see it?

No…………now don’t talk again.

12. May I see your passport?

Get out!

13. My mother wants to meet you.

I’m not interested.

14. My friend married somebody in your country.

So?

15. Why did you not answer my calls?

I was busy.

16. Why did you not call me?

I was busy.

17. I will be late.

I will be gone.

18. I want to walk.

Paka.

19. I want to go to shopping center.

Paka.

20. I am hungry.

Paka.

21. I am not hungry.

I am.

22. Why did you come alone?

My friends have gone to fuck some girls.

23. My friend will come in a while. She is very beautiful.

Good. I like threesomes.

24. How is your work?

Busy. You must leave after you have made me breakfast. I have important meetings.

25. I need money.

I need group sex.

26. Maybe I will stay in apartment with you.

Maybe you will go fuck yourself.

27. I will stay in the apartment with you.

I haven’t invited you yet.

28. I will not stay in apartment with you.

Paka.

29. I need to know you longer.

Look, I will take a girl home with me tonight. It can be you or someone else.

30. I am very lonely, have a hard time

I can’t hear you.

31. I think about you.

Good.

32. I want to kiss you.

Good.

33. Will you invite me to your country?

No.

34. Will you buy me a ring?

No.

35. Before you told me you was never here. Now how do you know this place?

Stop asking so many fucking questions.

36. How old did you say you are? I forgot.

Me too.

37. Do you say you like cats? Before you said you like dogs.

I like pussy.

38. Why do you like ukrainian girls? What is wrong with girls of your country?

They give great blow jobs. Nothing.

[Hecker]

i would answer like this.

1. why did you come to ukraine, for work?

actually for work yes, but i combine holidays because i like the country a lot.

2. i have to be home early.

when do you have to go? maybe we may stay a little in the hotel.

3. i am out of the city.

have a nice time there. now i need to eat sth.

4. you are very nice.

you are also very nice.

5. you are a good man.

i am not very good.

6. my telephone is very bad. i cannot write you sms.

i think we may take care about that.

7. how lovely children. do you like children?

i like slavic children very much.

8. do you travel often?

i travel often. i have visited. (a list of west and east countries).

9. why are you not married?

i have not found yet the right person to marry. it is so difficult if you have a little time.

10. are there not beautiful girls in your country?

in my country the girls are fat, hairy and very rude. i like slavic girls.

11. why do you come so often in ukraine? why ukraine?

because it is a very beautiful country. i like the cities and the girls here. i have been in may countries but i like to visit ukraine now.

12. how long is the holiday in your country?

. days. here?

13. is your brother married?

no, no, he is not married.

14. do you take every girl to the shop?

no. i do not like to buy presents to girls. only if the girl is very special to me i make exception.

15. do you tell the same to every girl?

do you tell the same to every boy?

16. how did you learn russian?

i had lessons in my country. i like russian language a lot. only ukrainian language sounds better. (if you are in the west).

17. in your country girls have sex on first date?

yes, some of them do.

18. where is your ticket? may i see it?

i have it in the hotel. maybe i will show you after.

19. may i see your passport?

i will show you my id.

20. my mother wants to meet you.

o. k.

21. why did you come alone?

all my friends were afraid to come to ukraine.

22. my friend will come in a while. she is very beautiful.

i saw her photo. you look far more beautiful.

and so on.

sometimes girls may do these tests continuously for over an hour, trying to get to conclusions from small details, combining small pieces of information.

they can drive you to mental exhaustion. dating 3-4 girls, the one upon the other and having to pass all these tests leads to such a tiredness, one has very little power to get to the club afterwards. and in the club follows other pick-up time. 4 years ago it was very easy, no shit tests just smile and pay for cheap drinks. the girls did everything on their own. now skills are needed, language knowledge, experience, concentration, speed and choosing the right targets and focusing on them. of course people who are naturally attractive and gifted and are successfull in their countries will do well without any problem in ukraine. however do these people actually travel to ee? their girlfriends will claim they do not have to. (another shit test).

[Saunter]

Cruiser D

I hear ya. I re-read my post again after what you wrote and if there was anything that I wasn't being totally honest, it would be #31's answer. I still don't see that as a lie though. I'm just making her feel good cuz obviously she's looking for reciprocal feelings. And I just leave it at that, a short comment.

Anyway, Spring is here... happy hunting you lucky bastards =]]

[Cruiser D]

AU is from originally from the Middle East - there are a lot of Middle Eastern students going to school in the Ukraine. They either can't afford, don't have the grades or can't get a visa to go to a western school.

AU is young, playing the American card, speaks the language and is tapping young average looking Ukrainian girls in Lugansk. And some of you guys doubt this is truthful because? - on second thought..don't answer that.

Saunter, I've been going to Kiev for the last four years, for three weeks to two months at a time. So my answers generally have a different impact then a casual traveler. I tell the girls the truth, I once had business in Kiev now I come to visit friends and date girls. If I find the right girl I have no problem at all being serious with her but I am going to be having fun until then. Sure I lost a few girls by not being deceptive but it's all about karma to me - besides, that is what pro's are for.