Musomba2006 in Kenya

[Musomba2006]

No brilliant idea yet for an inexperience traveler lost in Nairobi ?

Jim, In high tech industry its a norm to take vacations often. I am no exception.
Fortunately the two weeks vacation routine is over and now its time to quit the IT business and look for a change.

Photo was taken at Malindi cottage.

Max

Nice girl you got there.

You might like to try the university of nairobi website

http://www.uonbi. Ac. Ke/

Maybe the student/semester issues can be resolved there?

[Love The Ladies]

Jackson should ban this thread we are making as its not about sex, but I had to chime in.
I stay here in India 6 months of the year. Though we don't call it the "cattle class" it certainly is worse than the cows way of traveling. During Rush hours, you can lift your feet up to rest them. This is of course when you are standing. It is literally that jammed here in India.

It sounds like the conditions of Kenya's 3rd class is better than India's First Class during Rush Hour.

Anyhow, I don't think anyone is being racist here. Its just a term to describe how people are jammed into a train. "Cattle Class" is a much better description than "3rd Class." Just my 2 cents.

LTL

It appears you don't quite understand my 'software'.

Firstly don't mistake my comments as implying that rodney rude was being racist. If you read my post you will see that at no point did I state he was being racist. Its only you who has misunderstood my comments and blown things out of all proportion by suggesting I am complaining of racism. I don't even know if rodney rude is a mzungu in the first place so it would be wrong for me to even think he was being racist.

Secondly, who are treating the people like cattle? If you ask me I would say it is the very people who call their side of the train 'cattle class'. Why did rodney rude choose those specific words? He could have said 'third class' instead. We would have understood him very well. In my vision, he saw the poor people who cannot afford second class and willingly pay for third class (knowing all too well the conditions) as being rather like cattle in that they are content to travel in conditions that he likens to cattle pens. In reality third class is in no way near the conditions found in cattle pens. The people sit on wooden benches. Not on the floor. So the idea that the train officials are the ones treating them like cattle (as you are trying to imply) does not cut it. Rodney rude, and you both think that people who travel third class are like cattle because they are too poor to travel first class like yourselves. Its rather snobbish of you two and I rather think you should confine that kind of language to private messages.

[Musomba2006]

Thank you Musomba for this interesting precision but I prefer to stick with Waamu and Wasomali girls!

Dont worry about it Carl. I love sleeping with young 20 year old Bantu women who dress well, have great bodies and are a little crazy. I also like drinking a cold Whitecap and some coke she sometimes likes to share.

I have some bad experiences with Somalis. They eat from you, get you to feed their various relatives then act all bitchy afterwards.

[Carl Schmitt]

Something else you may like to know, lamu is known for homosexuality. Parents guard their young boys more tightly than their girls.

Thank you Musomba for this interesting precision but I prefer to stick with Waamu and Wasomali girls!

[DG69]

.... I don't even know if rodney rude is a mzungu in the first place so it would be wrong for me to even think he was being racist.

Come on Musomba not only Mzungus are racists. Rascist you might find in any cultures.

To the other point it's not a signe of no respect to poor people, it's more a kind of sarcasm. When people in Germany fly tourist class in plane, they call it wooden class, because it's so uncomfortable. ;-)

[Musomba2006]

I didn't see a name in this disco.

The important thing is the fact that mongering, though difficult, is possible in the very muslim Lamu town, thanks to the central Kenya administration.

This is a reality too in Pemba (Zanzibar archipelago, TANZANIA).

Though very quiet and islamic, you can meet with girls from the island and the mainland (and with alcohol) when you cross the police lines!

Policemen and civil servants come from very different cultural zones where sex is often a totally normal and unblamed thing, and some time a 'purification' of the soul. Far away from the religions of the Book which condemn sex relations without marriage and want sex relation for kids only not for pleasure in the marriage.

I have tested only the police bar/station in Lamu, Pemba, and Zanzibar city.

I guess it works every where in Tanzania and Kenya when you're in an ancient muslim area. If someone have informations about other islands that match this type (Kiwayuu, Pate, Mafia, Kilwa) please let's inform me!

To go back to Lamu island it's not difficult to find the disco, you have to come to the block called "LANGONI", the "BIG DOOR" in kiswahili. This the West end of Lamu town.
Here are living the poorers, the newcomers (like me ;)) or the descendant of slaves. Here you start to feel more in Africa than in an old arabic town. The women are not veiled, there are little bars which sell alcohol, sometime adultared, and you can hear some music in the "streets".

From LANGONI there are two path, one along the sea, to go to Shela village, one that climb up the woody mount. Take the second path. You will walk along a big military fence and see the radar and antenna that watch the Kenyan sky.

The disco is upper in the wood, a simplier way is to come with someone if you can bear the beach boy attitude or make a friend.

The place is known to hoste pro and non pro girls. The people of the town do not like it at all but tolerate it (I've talk with a young local DJ whose parents have forbidden him to play in this place because of the CD (changudoa) girls, he now sticks to marriage party and taarab!)

But, and I conclude here, it's sure that Lamu is not a good place for mongering.
I just give the informations for people who are obliged to go in this type of swahili island and wait for informations about the other remote islands I have not yet visited and the validity of my hypothesis of the POLICE/FREEDOM LINE in remote and muslim islands in Kenya and Tanzania.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

Something else you may like to know, lamu is known for homosexuality. Parents guard their young boys more tightly than their girls.

[Musomba2006]

Excuse me dear Musomba but I think that your software to understand the Mzungu thinking is quite too old.

We, especially the open-minded mongerers of this site, are not 19th century racists!
To say "cattle class" doesn't mean "people in the train ARE cattle".

To say "cattle class" means "people are treated LIKE cattle".

Do you understand my friend?

It appears you don't quite understand my 'software'.

Firstly don't mistake my comments as implying that rodney rude was being racist. If you read my post you will see that at no point did I state he was being racist. Its only you who has misunderstood my comments and blown things out of all proportion by suggesting I am complaining of racism. I don't even know if rodney rude is a mzungu in the first place so it would be wrong for me to even think he was being racist.

Secondly, who are treating the people like cattle? If you ask me I would say it is the very people who call their side of the train 'cattle class'. Why did rodney rude choose those specific words? He could have said 'third class' instead. We would have understood him very well. In my vision, he saw the poor people who cannot afford second class and willingly pay for third class (knowing all too well the conditions) as being rather like cattle in that they are content to travel in conditions that he likens to cattle pens. In reality third class is in no way near the conditions found in cattle pens. The people sit on wooden benches. Not on the floor. So the idea that the train officials are the ones treating them like cattle (as you are trying to imply) does not cut it. Rodney rude, and you both think that people who travel third class are like cattle because they are too poor to travel first class like yourselves. Its rather snobbish of you two and I rather think you should confine that kind of language to private messages.

[Musomba2006]

Cattle class eh? First time I have ever heared of it. How creative some people can be in relating people with cattle. Just how does it relate to mongering? Anyway that aside.

Here are some more pictures of my current GF. How did we meet? Well one Sunday I decided to just book a room at sweathearts in mtwapa (cost me around 400/= for a self contained room complete with fan but sans TV) and spend the evening at black havana. Since it was a little early (8. 00pm) there was not much action or girls. However, after about 30 minutes into drinking my whitecap beer, in came this hottie who headed straight for the womens room. Fortunatley I was seated along that path so when she came out I bekoned her with invitation to sit with me and have a drink. Gladly she obliged. We ended up spending the night at sweathearts and in the morning gave her 2000/= and a mobile phone (because she claimed not to have one and I was keen to contact her again).

She is 21 years old and has been in the mongering scene for around 8 months now. I took the opportunity to find out from her the comparisons between locals and foreigners. It is from her that I learned there are two kinds, I. E the mzungu wa maana (worthwhile foreigner) and the mzungu (I. E foreigner). The foreigner is no better than the well off locals as they tend to be very mean with their money (I. E offer no more than 1000/= for LT). Apparently many of the casurina foreigners fall into that category. The worthwhile foreigner tends to be the ones living in Nyali and owning property in kenya (I. E Expatriates and business men) and give 2000 to 5000/= for one night. I have even heared of cases of high class prostitutes charging as much as 30, 000/= per night to clients who tend to be diplomats and high flying businessmen. Such women however tend to be well educated and living in the posher areas of the city, some of them also hold full time day jobs and a local boyfriend. BTW, most local girls who made it from poverty to the jet set life did so by having an affair or marriage to a foreign investor who was looking for a way of buying property etc etc in kenya. Apparently its much easier to do this if you marry a local girl as the property can then be bought under her name.

[Carl Schmitt]

Excuse me dear Musomba but I think that your software to understand the Mzungu thinking is quite too old.

We, especially the open-minded mongerers of this site, are not 19th century racists!
To say "cattle class" doesn't mean "people in the train ARE cattle".

To say "cattle class" means "people are treated LIKE cattle".

Do you understand my friend?

[Musomba2006]

There is also 'cattle class' in other part of the world. I've been personally experiencing it in eastern europa (in bus). These word are a simple image and a simple critic of the condition of transport.

SO? Is it forbidden to say 'cattle class' when you travel in Africa? Every critic should be then understood as a racist attack?

Beyond this, I prefer to stick to the goals of this site, that is, mongering.

Please forget the binary black/white thinking here.

Tafadhali Musomba, naomba usilete habari za ubaguzi katika tovuti hii, ahsante.

Wako.

Carl

So you and Rodney Rude find it quite normal and correct to use the word 'cattle class' when refering to human beings? Sorry but I cannot comprehend or accept this whether its percived as racist attack or not.

[Carl Schmitt]

There is also 'cattle class' in other part of the world. I've been personally experiencing it in eastern europa (in bus). These word are a simple image and a simple critic of the condition of transport.

SO? Is it forbidden to say 'cattle class' when you travel in Africa? Every critic should be then understood as a racist attack?

Beyond this, I prefer to stick to the goals of this site, that is, mongering.

Please forget the binary black/white thinking here.

Tafadhali Musomba, naomba usilete habari za ubaguzi katika tovuti hii, ahsante.

Wako.

Carl

[Musomba2006]

Thanks for the pm,s on motorbikes and the train, seems booking first class then picking something up from cattle class is the go, cheers will keep you guys posted on how I fare.

Rude

I am, very keen to know how you fare. Please do take a digital camera with you. It will be very interesting to see if you actually succeed in getting a 'cow' from 'cattleclass'. Then sneaking 'her' into your cabin. Presuming that by 'cattle class' you actually mean 'third class' (sorry but I find it hard to equate my fellow human being, regardless of race, with cattle but it seems to come natuirally to you) I would think the kind of girls I would go for would never travel third class or even by train unless their boyfriend paid first or second class for it. I have certainly not seen any approaching my taste in the few times I have travelled by train and ventured into third class. Most of them would travel by bus.

[Mazungu]

Musomba2006,

http://www.chikicho.com/ is the site. I have really enjoyed Musomba2006 website and I think that it contributes to this forum. At the least it is going to peak interest. Musomba has given us something to look at and enjoy along with his expertises.

Mazungu

[The Lucky Guy]

Although I decided not to post any more pictures ...

Damn! I see light in the tunnel :)! Really great body!

Musomba, post pictures anyway. I think there is a general rule about posting that could be perceived as marketing..so just forget it and be happy. More great pictures from you will inspire others to post more great pictures!

[Musomba2006]

Are you a 37 year old Australian

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...662#post592662

Or a 39 year old Newzelander?

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...000#post486000