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[Kiwi 69]

Hey Kiwi 69,

Give us the low down on Park Schloss Dali - I met some guys in PHG and they said it was the best thing since sliced bread - much better than PHG or GT. I was going to give it a go but it will only be next time I visit Germany that I will be close by. Is it worth it - your comment would suggest otherwise?

Regards

The PSD is my "local",about 40 mins drive,but I never go there now.Moody bitches,many fúglies,everything is extra,crap service, staff and guests.I find the FKK Freudenbergstr 39 a much better place,more GFE level girls AND not in the middle of bumfuck nowhere! The PHG (for me anyway) sets the standard to compare all other clubs to. I would plan to go to PHG, GT, FKK 39, Ying Yang,Traum Paradies in the NRW area. Just read the forums,thats the most accurate info.

[Jackyo]

1. From what I've read, Frankfurt is the place to be with Palace, Oase and World all nearby. Is there a better city/area in Germany? Is there a reliable, better scene than FKK? Yes, I plan to stay at Hotel Flemming! Thank you for the advice.

Frankfurt has good clubs. They handle a lot of tourist traffic so you as a tourist will do just fine there. My personal preferences don't lean in the direction of the Frankfurt clubs. My views are known on this topic and I'll spare you by not explain why.

2. Is there anything to do while you wait to recover between sessions at FKKs? I heard there are jaccuzis and pools but I figure they'll be pretty nasty. I've heard of cinemas inside but it's just porn. I've heard people staying all day but what do you do, especially you don't speak a word of German? I was hoping to stay all day but I don't think I can do more than 4 sessions a day.

Yes, that is what the sauna is for. There is also constant eye candy, i.e the women. Find a quiet corner and try to nap or read. I personally don't go into bodies of water (except chlorinated swimming pools on occasion) at these clubs. I don't like having prune hands then there is the issue of bacteria infested water. Yes, people do stay all day. Done it lots of times.

3. I've heard some FKKs run specials. How do you find them? Local newspaper? Magazines? Websites?

Yes, some of them do. Yes, all of the above. I'm not aware of any for the three clubs you plan on visiting. There is a reduced admission deal for World if you come as a group but you indicate that you are flying solo.

4. I guess this is more for FKKs in Frankfurt but is there day shift/night shift for girls at Oase/Paradise/World? Any one better than the other? I'the like to have choices but I don't want to be fighting other mongers for girls! Rule of thumb is weekend busiest?

There are fewer women at the beginning of the day and then it gets busier. There are always enough women to go around. Go any time of the day and you will find someone who meets your criteria.

[Hessen Bub]

Give us the low down on Park Schloss Dali - I met some guys in PHG and they said it was the best thing since sliced bread - much better than PHG or GT

Never heard that from anybody. And I know some guys that have been there. If you are in the area, why not try it, but Oase, World, Palace, GT, PHG, Freude39 should be the much better choice.

Hessen Bub

[Jackyo]

can anyone tell me if any of the fkks in nrw offer bondage opportunities / facilities? e.g. beds with bars, ceiling hooks , st andrew's cross etc. ? i'd like to play out my tie and tease fantasy (nothing heavier) possibly with two girls and fkks seem a safe environment. i've been scanning the nrw forums for some months but have seen no references to this form of plasure anywhere.

thanks in advance
ripple 66

.. the closest i've ever seen to anything like this taking place is at pt mettmann.

the women there are game for just about anything so i'm sure a few whispered suggestions would be all it takes.

i'd avoid ns (natursekt or [CodeWord134]) day though. it just wouldn't be my thing.

[Ripple66]

Can anyone tell me if any of the FKKs in NRW offer bondage opportunities / facilities? e.g. beds with bars, ceiling hooks , st andrew's cross etc. ? I'd like to play out my tie and tease fantasy (nothing heavier) possibly with two girls and FKKs seem a safe environment. I've been scanning the NRW forums for some months but have seen no references to this form of plasure anywhere.

Thanks in advance
Ripple 66

[Loco00]

I was planning to spend 2-3 days in Germany, hitting the FKK scene (sounds like the best bet) and I was hoping to get some advice from the resident experts. I plan to be in Germany from August 8-10. I don't think I'm going to have a car.

1. From what I've read, Frankfurt is the place to be with Palace, Oase and World all nearby. Is there a better city/area in Germany? Is there a reliable, better scene than FKK? Yes, I plan to stay at Hotel Flemming! Thank you for the advice.

2. Is there anything to do while you wait to recover between sessions at FKKs? I heard there are jaccuzis and pools but I figure they'll be pretty nasty. I've heard of cinemas inside but it's just porn. I've heard people staying all day but what do you do, especially you don't speak a word of German? I was hoping to stay all day but I don't think I can do more than 4 sessions a day.

3. I've heard some FKKs run specials. How do you find them? Local newspaper? Magazines? Websites?

4. I guess this is more for FKKs in Frankfurt but is there day shift/night shift for girls at Oase/Paradise/World? Any one better than the other? I'the like to have choices but I don't want to be fighting other mongers for girls! Rule of thumb is weekend busiest?

Thanks for all the great information.

[Jackyo]

Hi Guys,

I will be in Germany in the coming month and wondered if anybody could point me in the right direction for a club in Kholn or Dusseldorf?

I am non German-speaking, and Germany is not my normal stamping ground, so any help would be greatky appreciated.

Many thanks,

Luke

Get a map. First step is to get a map.

Do you mean directly in Koeln and Duesseldorf? Will you have a car? Can you venture further, z. B. via public transport and leave these two cities?

Directly in Duesseldorf: La Bedo, Blue Note, Nachtcafe (sister club to the former Dolce Vita), FKK Duesseldorf (the former Dolce Vita). A little further away but still in Duesseldorf is Atrium in Erkrath.

Directly in Koeln: Samya. There are also the Laufhaeuser (Pascha, is one of them - I forget the name of the other one across the street).

To add to this list, there is, of course, the whole Ruhrgebiet, the clubs in Wuppertal, the Golden Triangle near the Dutch border and the clubs just outside of Koeln (in or in the direction of Bonn (Traum Paradies and Bernds come to mind), the Erftkreis, Leverkusen).

The whole NRW countryside is teeming with FKK clubs including Partytreffs. They sprout like mushrooms here.

[Lukewarm]

Hi Guys,

I will be in Germany in the coming month and wondered if anybody could point me in the right direction for a club in Kholn or Dusseldorf?

I am non German-speaking, and Germany is not my normal stamping ground, so any help would be greatky appreciated.

Many thanks,

Luke

[Twosorefeet]

The Palace has a "fuck factory" atmosphere, particularly with the pairs of Dominican slags that troll around in pairs accosting you to go fuck with them. Totally obnoxious and f'ugly as well! I will not return, I have never had experiences like that in any NRW clubs (even the Park Schloss Dali) We live and learn, I'm off to see some TG's now and have real fun!

Hey Kiwi 69,

Give us the low down on Park Schloss Dali - I met some guys in PHG and they said it was the best thing since sliced bread - much better than PHG or GT. I was going to give it a go but it will only be next time I visit Germany that I will be close by. Is it worth it - your comment would suggest otherwise?

Regards

[Kiwi 69]

I can't argue with that, but I really was thinking more from the buyers point of view, not the sellers.

I'm sure I would be having the time of my life at Palace if I had the time, money and willingness to visit Palace several times a week. However, beeing in Frrankfurt a couple of times a year is a different ballgame in terms of building relations with the proper SPs. For the moment I don't visit Palace, that is correct. One reason is because the management seems never to side with a buyer, especially a non-local buyer. For more thoughts on Palace, see a previous post of mine.

For those interested, Paradiso is really the Palace of NRW. It's strictly indoors, and the number of stunning women is surreal. The big difference was that the SPs were in general much friendlier.

I made a second visit to the palace on Friday night, driven by the memories of the great Thai girl I had there (BBFS, CIM, DATY, 11/10 GFE etc, all for €100, twice) After paying the €75! I noticed a sign saying management have nothing to do with arrangements (read payment and service) between the SP's and guests. Found a cute looking Thai (Mai, May? ), and ended up in a room. After 40 minof BBBJ and DATY she tells me she doesn't like doing CIM but she will for €50. My fault, I didn't ask but. Had I known would have only stayed 30 min.

Then went with Crystal from Martinique for 30 min. She going to start BJ covered, that was quickly changed! After 30 min she says she wants €100 total (DATY is extra! ) I gave her €50 and she didn't argue. I had had enough and left.

The Palace has a "fuck factory" atmosphere, particularly with the pairs of Dominican slags that troll around in pairs accosting you to go fuck with them. Totally obnoxious and f'ugly as well! I will not return, I have never had experiences like that in any NRW clubs (even the Park Schloss Dali) We live and learn, I'm off to see some TG's now and have real fun! A bad

[Hessen Bub]

Nadine who was one of the stargirls in Atlantis some years ago.

I would also like to meet the other east european girls from Atlantic again.
I never ever found that quality in other FKKs in germany after Atlantis closed.
I do like easteuropean girls a lot and I dont find so many anymore. Romania and Bulgaria is not the same!

Romanian girls can be as good as Nadine, Marina, Diana, Anjelica, Vika and the rest. You just have to find the right girls.

Nadine is working at FKK Relax in Munich. Anjelica is working at Palace. Diana, Marina and Vika quit. You can find the Atlantis girls at Oase, Palace, World, Artemis and other clubs. The problem is there's much more clubs now than at Atlantis times. So the good girls spread all over Germany.

Hessen Bub

[Everhard]

I know that this is of no use at a shitty-managed club like Palace, but Paradiso for sure must have higher standards.

So you are punishing Palace for one experience you had with one lady at the reception? Ask the (good) girls, they come to Palace because it is a well managed club.

I can't argue with that, but I really was thinking more from the buyers point of view, not the sellers.

I'm sure I would be having the time of my life at Palace if I had the time, money and willingness to visit Palace several times a week. However, beeing in Frrankfurt a couple of times a year is a different ballgame in terms of building relations with the proper SPs. For the moment I don't visit Palace, that is correct. One reason is because the management seems never to side with a buyer, especially a non-local buyer. For more thoughts on Palace, see a previous post of mine.

For those interested, Paradiso is really the Palace of NRW. It's strictly indoors, and the number of stunning women is surreal. The big difference was that the SPs were in general much friendlier.

[Toto001]

I tried to ask long time ago if someone have news about Nadine who was one of the stargirls in Atlantis some years ago.

I would also like to meet the other east european girls from Atlantic again.

I never ever found that quality in other FKKs in germany after Atlantis closed.

I do like easteuropean girls a lot and I dont find so many anymore. Romania and Bulgaria is not the same!

Someone with information about what club I should focus on?

Hi Dick,

You might want to try Freude 39 in Bochum at Freudenberger Str. 39 ... there is currently a cute girl from Lithuania : Sonja early 20, slim, nice firm body and breasts (B/C). To be with her is a real girl friend experience ! From the looks I would give her a 8 out of 10, where 10 is Guiselle Bündchen.

Enjoy!

[James 006]

I tried to ask long time ago if someone have news about Nadine who was one of the stargirls in Atlantis some years ago.
I would also like to meet the other east european girls from Atlantic again.
I never ever found that quality in other FKKs in germany after Atlantis closed.
I do like easteuropean girls a lot and I dont find so many anymore. Romania and Bulgaria is not the same!

Someone with information about what club I should focus on?

[Ortos]

Regarding Palace, I myself have long regarded Palace (or Oase) as my club of choice within the FFM area. Sure I look in on World, but in the end, my default club seems to be Palace more and more. And I make this statement using my overall clincher criterion: the look and depth of the girl line-up and the ability to score consistent GFEs (although, at Palace, this may well require abit of selection and girl assessment experience.)

I personally do well at Palace and believe it is unfairly singled out as a club full of churn and burn sharks, but nothing else. Well, I myself have had more problematic sessions at other clubs, not Palace. I do well at Palace. And I like the vibe there and am aware and wary of the pitfalls. I also find a lot of benefits at Palace, most of which are obvious. I do NOT think the 10E increase in Eintritt Preis is such the big deal that others have made it into. (I burn thrice the amount of the increase in petrol driving from central FFM to Pohlheim and back, so wtf!). The more or less central location of Palace allows me to better exploit the re-entry option to good advantage. Imagine how you can better stretch that 75E Eintritt if you can come and go from AM to AM (11AM one day to 04am the next, always being able to exit/reenter with time to sleep and recharge properly between sessions.

But for me Palace offers the best depth of girls available. All types, by which I mean lots of constantly changing new material, young new girls plus a great admixture of seasoned veteran girls many of whom are tried and true GFE providors and NOT rip-off artists. (Once you learn to spot the rip-off girls, you can spot them immediately.)

So I am like Hessen Bub: I got no problem with Palace. For me it is the FKK equivalent of a Black Diamond Ski Piste: There are many chances to fall, but if you know how to ski around the moguls you can have the ride of your life!

Ortos