Identifying Transvestites

[Happy Bigamist]

I've had a crack at a few before. One was pre-op, the others post op. I prefer post op. Only got oral off the pre op. I've got no complaints. Some of them are hotter than the women there, and I am a big fan of Thai women.

The huge silicon breasts get me all the time!

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I can pick a ladyboy a mile away! I went to Kings Castle with a BG I hooked up with a few times on a couple of trips and she suggested we go there and suss out the Ladyboys. Even she was surprised how good I was at picking them. I'm sorry but I had to gloat

And did you reciprocate? I guess if fantasies are your thing. But the consensus seems to be these creatures bring nasty shocks and exotic diseases with them. If thye are a step down from blow job bars, they must be warehouses for exotic and erotic diseases.

[DanTheMan]

I've had a crack at a few before. One was pre-op, the others post op. I prefer post op. Only got oral off the pre op. I've got no complaints. Some of them are hotter than the women there, and I am a big fan of Thai women.

The huge silicon breasts get me all the time!

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I can pick a ladyboy a mile away! I went to Kings Castle with a BG I hooked up with a few times on a couple of trips and she suggested we go there and suss out the Ladyboys. Even she was surprised how good I was at picking them.....I'm sorry but I had to gloat

[Naked Gunz]

If it looks to good to be true, it surely is...
I was fooled for a quick minute in Kings in Bangkok.
I realized my Thai Playmate had a surprise if I took her home.

[MarcoStraight]

Just how good are tgs at kickboxing? Not that I personally want to find out but inquiring minds etc.

A doctor told me many years ago our sex choice is decided by when we are 2 years of age. Many but by no means all of the katoeys are big and tough. I reckon they have too much not too little male testerone and they are time bombs with short fuses.

Soi 6 has many shemales well over 6 foot, with artificial implants and god know what. They remind me of that big rooster in Walt Disney and I never liked that rooster. Scary Soi 6.

The muscle tone vanishes with hormones but if they do implants, the muscle tone stays.

You better look at this my friend.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn5dX...elated&search=

We all have to be careful with katoeys...

[Happy Bigamist]

Just how good are tgs at kickboxing? Not that I personally want to find out but inquiring minds etc.

A doctor told me many years ago our sex choice is decided by when we are 2 years of age. Many but by no means all of the katoeys are big and tough. I reckon they have too much not too little male testerone and they are time bombs with short fuses.

Soi 6 has many shemales well over 6 foot, with artificial implants and god know what. They remind me of that big rooster in Walt Disney and I never liked that rooster. Scary Soi 6.

The muscle tone vanishes with hormones but if they do implants, the muscle tone stays.

[Jungle Bluebird]

Loads of issues attached to this. Surely, transsexuals are in a true fix. What is important to me, is how for gods sake can I differentiate the true from fake. Truth is, one cannot. It also does not help that in wicked Thai society katoys are often celebrated. The more feminine they look, the better.

I am quite sure that many of us engaged (unknowingly) with katoys.

JB

[Happy Bigamist]

"Here something to ponder about: http://www.chet-plasticsurgery.com/Srs_main.html"

I followed the link as suggested. Having spent a day squirming, I returned to this site and read Animby's post. From both, it becomes very obvious that the need to become a woman far outweights other considerations with these people. When one considers the cost of proper and "safe" surgery in the local currency and salary scale, this becomes more obvious.

When we accept the life of rejection that lies ahead of these people (excepting those who marry and are happy with a rich recluse), when we accept the many medical complications, the effects of age and wear and tear, the need for further operations on the butt, hips, Adam's apple etc etc, it is best to run a mile from them. There is no happy ending with these people.

Staying some way sober, chatting to them in advance, using common sense and having a good hotel security system cuts out 99% of the problems. However, a casual stroll around Pattaya or similar places shows these people are much in demand.

I haven't figured out whether Animby's is the most informed and scariest post here.

Taken together, they give food for thought and reasons for caution.

[BionicMan]

Seen that there are nearly 40 messages in one month, look like that this subject - still limited at "is she a he or a she" and the surronding topics - draws some sort of interest.

Eventhough if limited at the Thai Forum.
We all know the shemale (and all the humanity that this short term can group) are pretty well represented in the P4P scene in Asia (Philippines, S'pore to mention a couple for all), as well as in other araes of the world.

No doubt Jackson wants to keep things under control and within certain rules, so my comments are not meant to instigate a revolution. By all means!
The debate so far shows that the issue might draw some interest.
And it does draw in reality of life since the good market the ladyboys can find around.

So what about a specific thread only for the major countries where these are popular?

It might contradict the basic rule (men<--->women inter-action), but we all know sometime rules can be amended with the consent of the ruler!

[Animby]

Mind you must investigate now on the probability of an artificial cervix.

I'm not a surgeon, just an old country general practitioner who took a detour through New York City.

As I understand it, the tissue from the penis is inverted to form a tunnel that becomes the vaginal pouch (thanks to a fluid-filled balloon that helps it achieve it's final form). So, an artificial cervix would simply be surgical scarring and perhaps a cartilage (or plastic) implant to give the shape and feel of a cervix near the back of the new vaginal vault.

That construction would be a real challenge when there is so much else going on and would serve no real purpose in the gender reassignment and, thus, an unnecessary risk to the patient.

Fun, no?

[Jungle Bluebird]

Thanks Animby

There we go, it's all clear now :-) Mind you must investigate now on the probability of an artificial cervix.

Ref.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervix

JB

My surgeon friend tells me that most vaginal pouches are just straight and don't have the natural curve of the female vagina. And almost no surgeon bothers to construct an artificial cervix.

[Animby]

Someone below accused me of not being copletely correct in what I have stated. Wish he'd have mentioned what I said that was wrong. However, I will tell you one thing I did say that is incorrect. According to a plastic surgeon friend of mine in California, it IS possible to retain some self-lubrication in some cases! And, it is completely possible for a lady boy to surreptitiously slip in a little lubrication while you are reviewing your notes on what to look for.

I have seen some boy/girls that I could not identify visually as gender reassigned individuals. And I've examined vaginas that I knew were fake but I couldn't easily see the differences even with them flat on their backs, legs in the stirrups and bright lights focused. The surgical techniques have advanced tremendously in the last decade or so. With the speculum inserted, the interior does look different. When was the last time you brought a speculum to the bedroom. And would you know what to look for?

And Thailand has some of the world's finest gender reassignment surgeons. The limiting factor is often how much money the individual can afford to pay for his new genitalia. The scarring someone asked about is artfully concealed within the "natural" folds of tissue. Plastic surgeons are expert at making almost invisible scars.

Big hands, feet, knees? Are suspect methods of identification but may be hints. Fat deposits? Can be altered easily and cheaply.

My surgeon friend tells me that most vaginal pouches are just straight and don't have the natural curve of the female vagina. And almost no surgeon bothers to construct an artificial cervix.

But, if you've gotten so far as to use these methods of identification, then he/she has already earned the money you might as well take what you can get and pray that boys really do know what men like better than women.

One quick story. I was at Mae Sae this weekend and saw a very drunk Aussie cowboy with a cute but easily identifiable ladyboy on his arm. Whether the Aussie knew what he had or not, I don't know. I'd bet he didn't see his future bed partner scratching his pubes with some ferocity through the skirt. I suspect that, by now, the cowboy is not only scratching his head but his crotch and wondering why his ass hurts so much.

[Jungle Bluebird]

Sorry guys. Yes surely a dick would give him away. But how many of us had sex with lady boys who had 'sexual re-assignment surgery'. I.e. no dick!

So, if I am the owner of a massage place, would I care if my most popular investment is a guy or girl? Surely not. It all comes down on ROI. Remember lady boys are known to give excellent head. Surely a draw for the monger community.

Never discussed this with a cosmetic surgeon, but there must be genital indication/evidence of some sort.

Here something to ponder about: http://www.chet-plasticsurgery.com/Srs_main.html

Now, as some of you claim to be such experts, I am curious to learn more details :-)

JB

[Happy Bigamist]

The simplest way with Thais is to say you want to fuck them up the ass. The answer tells. Pretend you want a ladyboy and you will find out. Then backpeddle. Or bend over.

[Giotto]

Hey guys.

here is a sure way to determine if you encounter a TV/LB or whatever. Take them to a well lite quiet corner. yank down their pants, and if you find a dick swinging between their legs.....

Bnlee2,

And if you don't find a dick he is a woman? Man, you don't have any idea...

Such a nonsense. Completely confusing for newbies.


Giotto

[Bnlee2]

Hey guys.

here is a sure way to determine if you encounter a TV/LB or whatever. Take them to a well lite quiet corner. yank down their pants, and if you find a dick swinging between their legs..... whamo.. you got a TV/LB or whatever.

This method never fails. 100% fool proof. money backed guarantee..

just my two cents on this subject and final appearance on this thread.

please guys...DONOT PM me on blow by blow methods.