Monterrey

[El Cabron 007]

I gotta tell you, for someone who is so anti MP's, you sure went out of your way on a mission you already did not expect to make significant changes and really put sincere effort. Thank you Bob. I am sure the readers appreciate everything you've don these past few days.

Great work.

Wasted

I have been very busy, almost experiencing battle fatigue with respect to my bar fines and the extent of my privado experiences. I used yesterday to abstain from any directly sexual activity whatsoever, just to conserve some energy for tonight. But, just for entertainment, I spent a ton on Jarras at Pasarelas, and a modest amount on my G Girl at Infinito in the privados. Details will be in the USB section. But, frankly, the ton spent on Jarras has nothing really to do with sexual gratification. It was simply entertainment for me, socializing and such. It of course, will pay dividends when I actually do bar fine those same girls, but I did not spend the money last night with any strategic investment strategy in mind...simply, I spent the money to entertain myself for hours on end...no sex.

[Member #3453]

I visited two more MPs last night. I simply could not find anything I would touch with a ten foot pole, so I moved on. I know these are obscure establishments, and probably not worthy of assessment, but that´s really part of the problem. There are so many MPs in Monterrey, that you have to waste a huge amount of time canvassing them all to find doable prospects.

At this junture, about the only one I would waste time checking of all that I´ve seen so far, which is only a handfull of the plethera of small insignificant ones, is Signore. That one seems worth the effort.

The first one I visited last night was called El Libre. It has a rather expensive looking sign out front...looked pretty inviting. I walked in around 9:30pm. There were three girls, two of them were cows, the other was thinner, but still a skag. I just decided to move on to see if I could find another one with more selection. I believe they quoted 170 pesos for a half hour.

I visited one called Virgo, Madero No. 846. When I walked in there was one girl. I asked when the widest selection would be available, keeping in mind that it was already about 10:00pm (they are open 24 hours) and they said "this is it." The girl was NOT DOABLE, and they quoted 200 pesos for a half hour. They never did answer my questions as to when the largest selection was to be available.

Guys, this MP thing aint lookin' too promising, I gotta tell ya. The only one with any promise so far has been Signore, at least with respect to what I would term low to medium quality MPs in the price range that may make selection from the clubs less economical.

I would like to check out Misses and Romanos, and I fully intend to do so, but I may run out of time depending on my other activities. With the agenda so far, I just don´t want to continue to waste too much time canvassing what has proven so far to be a relatively disappointing venue, at least for me with respect to overall quality of selection compared to the clubs.

I realize that Misses and Romanos, and the higher end places like Versace, and such, will be akin to the same cost as bar fining from the clubs, so I have to weigh whether wasting my time to canvas them will be worth the investment of time. I mean, my cost in the clubs, if I play my cards right, has me paying close to, if not exactly the same as the medium level MPs. Read my reports in the USB section for greater cost analysis. These are summarized conclusions, and I will elaborate with some qualification to my conclusions in the USB section.

I have been very busy, almost experiencing battle fatigue with respect to my bar fines and the extent of my privado experiences. I used yesterday to abstain from any directly sexual activity whatsoever, just to conserve some energy for tonight. But, just for entertainment, I spent a ton on Jarras at Pasarelas, and a modest amount on my G Girl at Infinito in the privados. Details will be in the USB section. But, frankly, the ton spent on Jarras has nothing really to do with sexual gratification. It was simply entertainment for me, socializing and such. It of course, will pay dividends when I actually do bar fine those same girls, but I did not spend the money last night with any strategic investment strategy in mind...simply, I spent the money to entertain myself for hours on end...no sex.

I will report on last night's escapades, which consisted of visiting El Infinito to visit with my "G" girl, buying her two drinks, and about (6) privados, then stopping briefly into El Cielo to canvass a relatively poor "MP" quality of selection, and sitting in Pasarelas the rest of the night. The details can be found in the USB section eventually. For now, the internet is down in my hotel, and I had to come up to the computer store across from PDA to post this update. I'll get to the details in the USB section, time permitting. No rest for the weary and committed. Oh, in the MP canvas last night, I also have another hotel to offer up as an option, one that is relatively cheaper than PDA, and has wireless internet, and closer to ground zero. Details in the USB section later on.

[MonterreyDude]

There are no MPs in the San Nicolas county.
For that you need to move to the Monterrey downtown area.

PD: am back from shopping in the McAllen Tx, area.

Are there any local MPs nearby (especially Asian)? If so, close to me? I prefer going out rather than any in call. I'll appreciate any input. Thx

PW

[Member #3453]

I just posted a review of the new privado room at Givenchy in the USB section, complete with lengthy commentary.

[Member #3453]

Ok,...

The rain started here last night around 6:30pm, just as I was starting to canvas the MPs. Just as I pulled up to Playboy I, the rains started. Playboy I literally had only one girl in attendance, and she we a skag. I immediately walked to Playboy II, which is just down the street from El Infinito, just about maybe 2 minutes on foot from Playboy I. There were three girls working in Playboy II. Only one of them was even remotely doable with the other two being rather large. Even the doable one would not have enticed me to select her were she dancing in one of the clubs. She would be considered a last resort, a "lesser of three evils" kind of selection.

If this is any representation of what can typically be found in Playboy, I will pass in the future. If anyone knows otherwise, that maybe other days of the week are superior, then I will be glad to check it out again.

Because the rain was starting to come down pretty heavy, I decided to abandon running around between the MPs. It's just too miserable to do that. I decided that because of the rain, I would just pop into the strip clubs to wait out the storm. I will report on that experience within the USB section so as not to post too lengthy a description here.

And, a question...frankly, which is more aggravating...reading long commentary here, or having to switch to an altogether different forum for a detailed description? I suspect those that do not appreciate the long winded commentary are reading it in the USB section anyway, or am I wrong.

I am trying to limit myself to shorter comentary here as requested. I am not mad about it, but it just seems kind of stupid to me to have to switch to another forum to read what is being posted about MTY, long winded or not. I am just trying to get along, but it all seems so counterproductive when there is literally nothing else being posted here otherwise....but peace on earth, and good will toward men...etc...

[Member #3453]

I visited Signore about 8pm Saturday night. There were about (8) girls available at that hour. Most of the girls appeared to be slightly older than what I generally find in the clubs. I would say that the older girls I saw were actually the hotter choices, maybe 30 years old, or slightly older, 32-33. The younger girls were almost all a little bigger built, not really to my liking. The older girls were well preserved however, and almost all of them would be considered very “doable” certainly, and the younger girls too, except with respect to the gorda issue.

The woman at Signore quoted me 150 pesos for ½ hour, and she told me that I should always show up no later than 9pm. So, that would also indicate that they close around 10pm, and that she meant for me to show up at least by 9pm. So, and I concluded, therefore, that most visitors opt for at least an hour of service, which would be 300 pesos for full service, F/S, all con condom of course. With respect to the hours of operation of the MPs, 10pm is a very early time to call it a night, another reason the Strip Clubs are virtually the only game in town after 10pm. This is a huge consideration, IMHO, and should not be overlooked. If you don't wrap it up, having all your fun prior to 10pm, and you don't want to go the strip clubs, then you are done for the rest of the night.

I had a very busy night last night...

I was up until 4am, after bar fining one of my favoritas from Pasarelas. I will report that experience in the USB section because it will be lengthy, and it will also contain a lot of personal observations about Signore and MPs in general, to include my perceptions about why I believe I prefer the salida experience over the MP experience generally speaking.

I do not wish to clog the regular board with that kind of detail. All are invited to read and comment in the USB section, selectable by pressing the Northern Mexico button at the Mexico forums selection area.

My intention is to actually partake in service in whichever of the MPs I find most intriguing after having canvassed a number of them. Stay tuned...

[Member #3453]

I accept your conclusions about the MPs...I think they have merit with respect to cost, certainly. And, possibly even with respect to at least finding some selection.

Just as you pointed out that I may have had a misunderstanding about ample selection, you have perhaps also misunderstood that I have never promoted the clubs over anything, not other than to articulate my particular preferred kind of experience. The clubs are simply "my" source of chicas for salida, my preferred activity.

I must say, this afternoon, when I visited Faronas (#1), I was impressed with price, 160 pesos for a half hour is what I heard...I hope my Spanish was sufficient to have understood the dude correctly. Sound about right? Now, I went too early to find a decent selection, only two girls there at 3pm, but I was interested in checking it out.

The girls will start to trickle into the MPs at 4pm according to one of two girls in Faronas at 3pm. The window of opportunity will generally be between say 4pm, and 10pm, when most of them will close. So, that having been said, the operating hours of most MPs really separates the two venues with respect to timeliness, making the clubs almost your only option, at least for any kind of selection, after about 10pm on weeknights. I guess the MPs may be open later on weekends. I'll try to nail that down, or if anyone knows for sure they can post it here.

If I were advising someone to visit the MPs I would suggest between about 6pm and 9pm as the times with the best selection on weekdays.

Of the two in Faronas, one was doable, the other was just ok, but actually the one that was just ok was the nicer of two with respect to personality...Realizing that I visited too early at Faronas, I just took a walk over to Infinito, Givenchi, and Tangalay, and there were probably at least 25 girls working the bars between those three clubs, all within 50 feet of one another, with the largest number in Givechy believe it or not.

But, of the probably 10 girls in Infinito, I would have to say there were probably about 6-7 that were in the "very doable" category, and probably half of those were actually pretty damned HOT, all be it, obviously at a substantially increased price if choosing to take them on salida, and probably even at a slightly higher price were you to enjoy them in the privados compared to the MPs.

Now, maybe if I had visited a few more MPs, I would have found a few more doable girls. So, my research is far from over. And, I realize that this is an unscientific kind of assessment, also influenced by my own lack of discipline in giving the MPs a totally undistracted opportunity.

This afternoon, even with the clubs, I did something I rarely do. I rarely partake in any kind of services within the clubs. I almost always bar fine the girls for fun back at my hotel. I may do a privado or two, or even a few more, but the main purpose is interviewing for personality and potential. I rarely do anything with them other than talk, and a little light fondling.

Actually, I am kind of ashamed to admit it, but when I went to Tangalay this afternoon, after having the best of intentions to return to the MPs for further research between 6-7pm, a girl recognized me from my being in various clubs over the past four years, Pasarelas, Casino, and now, Tangalay. She came to my table, and her charm had me in the privados where I had full service from her for about 560pesos (covered of course), which included the several songs playing...

I think the actual cost for full service was 300 pesos. But, those of you that know me personally, must admit that in order for me to have done anything with her in the privados, I would have had to have been impressed by her charm, her potential for GFE outside the club, which I was. She was not the hottest girl in the bar, and she would have possibly been in the same category as a typical MP girl, but the key to my satisfaction is her personality and GFE potential.

I know...shit....I wanted to concentrate my efforts in the MPs, and I just succombed to her damned charms...She was really trying hard to get me to take full service from her in the privados, and now she is really, really, pushing for me to bar fine her tonight after 11pm, when she claims she will go with me for at least a few hours, maybe more, for 800 pesos...

She's is really pushing the bar fine thing, but suggesting instead, that for tonight we could meet after her shift, suggesting that for cost saving's sake, so I can avoid the bar fine. I don't know...of course, after all her pushing, I promised to come back to get her at 10pm, but I might just blow her off for later tonight. She was very insistant that she wants to go with me back to the hotel, and not at my urging...I like that kind of eagerness very much, even though I fully realize that her eagerness in motivated by greed, it still has a tendency to play into my preferred "attitudinal" preferences.

I just have too many options in the clubs, and it serves to distract me from my purpose. And, I might possibly have options, even for salida in the MPs, if I can just get focused, damn-it! I only have so many pops in me...I have to pace myself if I am going to enjoy my assessment of the MPs, that is, other than just visiting them just to do a census.

Mastermind,

I am wondering what times of the day you typically visited the clubs when you were in town, as well as the times that you found your best range of selection at the MPs.

Don't worry everyone...I know I was undisciplined and side tracked this afternoon, but, this aint over...I am committed to reporting as much as I can from both the clubs and the MPs, and I will make a non-biased report.

But, of course, we will all have our friendly disagreements on the experience we all respectively enjoy, and that's fine...But, at least when I am finished, I hope that by my reporting on the MPs, at least I will also demonstrate that I am part of the team here, and not the enemy. I hold absolutely no disrespect for guys that like to visit the MPs.

I leave now to visit Signore...I want to scope it out, and I'll report back here tomorrow. It's about 8:00pm.

You have misunderstood me I think. Of course the strip clubs with dozens of girls are going to have the more ample selection than the MPs with less then ten girls. The thing I was saying was that it wasn't worth the price paid at the strip clubs for FS when I could get the same service (with even raunchier and more adventerous, but still attractive girls) at 1/3 the price and with 1/10 the time involved. While some of strip club girls were beautiful, the prices and the nickel and diming of the clients made for service that was way to expensive when compared to what I saw available at the MPs, where you just popped in and if you saw a chicas that you likes, you'd go back to the room and have at it. The strip clubs in Monterrey just didn't impress me and things if you let them would get way out of hand with the amount spent at the end of the night. I'm not cheap, but I refuse to be taken in for a sucker. Based on my experiences in Monterrey I was continuously more satisfied with my MP experiences than with my experiences at the strip clubs. Now, don't take me wrong the strip clubs were ok sometimes, but they are what they are everywhere- places where tourists come to empty their wallets for the chance to have sex with a stripper. In that respect Monterrey is no different than anywhere else in Mexico. However, the vast number of MPs is what makes Monterrey different and comparatiely cheap.

[Member #3453]

Go to the closest Oxxo store and pickup the El Sol Newspaper. It is in stock at Oxxo now, Saturday afternoon, 2pm. The MPs will be listed in abundance there. I just picked mine up in El Centro so I can begin my research.

I don't really know where your hotel is located with respect to El Centro, the area of Madero near Villa Gran, but there are a shit load of MPs in that area for sure. Just hop in a cab, hand him El Sol opened to the MP page, and tell him "el mejor circa de agui,vamos" or "take a cab to the area of Villa Gran and Madero, where there are a wide variety available, many you can walk to. But, I vouch for none. I have no direct recent experience...

Mexican ancestory has a very strong Asian component. I have often thought that many Mexican girls have a decidedly Asian appearance. But, I have yet to see a full blooded Asian in any of the MPs here, but it's been a while since I checked. As for any specializing in Asians, I am not aware of any. Perhaps someone else can contribute their recommendations.

I feel like the MP Blind leading the Blind...

Perhaps you made a wrong turn in Dallas...you would quite possibly be much more satisfied hopping on a plane to LOS or the PI (just kidding).

Are there any local MPs nearby (especially Asian)? If so, close to me? I prefer going out rather than any in call. I'll appreciate any input. Thx

PW

[Pecker Will]

Are there any local MPs nearby (especially Asian)? If so, close to me? I prefer going out rather than any in call. I'll appreciate any input. Thx

PW

[Member #3453]

If there is any snow balls chance in hell...I will find a way. I am that committed. :-)

Guys, don't the MPs offer a salida fee as well...just wondering what that might be. Anybody know the particulars?

Hey...got a great idea...

Galletas ala MP. No need to play the Cabron, etc...

What do ya' think?

MJ, how do you come up with this? and so true... don't get me started.

I, on the other hand, expect Bob to come back with GFE @ a MTY MP. How much do you ant to bet? ....

Just kidding ... we love you USB.

[Member #3453]

Thank you for reminding me that Prok had written that, and I most definitely will check it. And, of course, there is also the report that Mastermind just posted...I'll refer to that too. And then, there is El Sol, which is hit and miss due to the shear numbers of MPs advertising there...you never really know which of those adds holds a lot of promise.

But, with respect to my asking the intial logistical question, I figured I would demonstrate my open mindedness at asking for information from whomever might wish to contribute, just in order to demonstrate that I am NOT opposed to hearing about the MPs, nor do I want to be accused of promoting the club circuit only...I have taken the criticism to heart. I am in fact open to reading all points of view.

The only issue I took up with Mastermind was the selection comparison, and that is where my skepticism lies. That is going to be the basis of my research. But, I am not opposed to assessing the MP experience as a whole either. But, I am going to focus on the quality of selection issue.

I may be under the mistaken impression that the MP experience is not going to be satisfying to me based on my past experiences. But, that doesn't mean that I fault anyone for enjoying the MPs.

I am sincerely providing an opportunity, for those that may have possibly felt constrained by my former postings about the strip clubs, to insert something on the MPs within the MTY thead. I know guys think I am just baiting them, but I am simply trying to be concilliatory, welcoming a full range of commentary.

I may not have in the past been able to offer recommendations on things that have been beyond my range of routine experience in MTY (MPs), and I apologize, but I can't report on a venue I don't frequent. I do not fault those who wish to use the MPs and like to post their experiences about them.

Porker is one of my best friends from this board, and he used to post a shit load of stuff on the MPs. I have literally traveled the mongering world with Porker. He frequents the MPs in MTY, but not by choice necessarily. Certainly, his habits do not resemble an MP kind of existence when he's in the PI or Indonesia...but, he speaks favorably about the MPs in Monterrey because it's the only food on the buffet due to his circumstances. But, either way, circumstances or not, it's back to the steak thing...like Wasted said.

Where I suspect I will verify my disagreement with Mastermind is over the quality of selection issue, comparing MP selection to strip club selection. But, if I find that is not the case, I will be the first one to say I was WRONG, and apologize to him publicly here in the forum. But, it remains to be determined. However, I am not afraid to tell Mastermind I was dead wrong. What have I go to lose?

I know I am perceived as being disengenuous with respect to my research on the MPs, but Mastermind's post made me stop to think how I had not really visited an MP in a long time. Fact is, I have been contemplating a revist and assessment of them for quite some time, just for a change of pace. But, because you guys do not know me personally, you are assuming I am insincere. I truly am intending to make a non-biased evalutation, and the amigos on here that know me personally, know that I am totally for real.

Look, if I reported back with bias, it doesn't serve me or anyone else. I must admit, that because I enjoy the GFEs more, I am skeptical that I will personally find the MPs to be satisfactory at this point in my life. But, I am open to trying them out again, hoping actually that I do find some alternatives, if not for enjoyment sake then certainly for savings sake.

If I find that I don't like them, or that they turn me off, I will still report it as such, and why. But, on the other hand, if I find that I am satisfied with one or more of those experiences, then I PROMISE to report it truthfully. I am intrinsically skeptical, but open minded, willing to change my mind. The proof is in the pudding.

My amigos all know me well, all telling me that I am going to dislike them,....because they know me. But, all this is subjective. If you like MPs that's fine, and I welcome all of your comments on them.

But, now, especially after having completed my own research, research which I intend to carry our during the course of several subsequent visits, just so I can be certain of the validity of my conclusions, I will have a first hand perspective on the validity of most reports that come in here with respect to the MPs.

Up to now, I can't really refute or confirm my conclusions about selection or anything else because it's all based on past assessments.

So, I apologize to Mastermind for jumping to conclusions about his assessments over the quality of selection...I was premature.

I will make that right next week, and continue the assessment for several subsequent trips, just to be fair in making any future commentary, good or bad.

I do believe the effort to canvas the lower and medium level MPs will be significantly more tiring than sitting in a lower level strip club like El Infinito, where 40-60 girls are sometimes working. One would have to canvas many MPs to find that kind of overall selection. But, I am eating my Wheaties...:-) Popping my Viagra in advance....:-)

Why not just check the Reports of Distinction thread right here on the ISG? Proko's information on the MP's seems solid.

Somehow, though, I sense a very negative report coming up from you....Kinda like Fox News reporting on the Democratic National Convention....

[Precocious One]

Carlos,

Are you insinuating that I may run into physical trouble there? I've been there five or six times and never got that feeling. However, I do make a point of always taking my beer to the bathroom and I never leave it unoccupied. I actually kind of like this place.

And yes, one of the girls straight out told me one hundred. The majority do not show up until 10:30 to 11:00. I left at about 2:30 and the place had about twenty single girls there. In fact, there is a short time hotel conveniently right next door to Bar International. But then again, Pasaralas and I believe Secrets are right across the street. I still believe the majority of the girls there are P4P.

[El Cabron 007]

That is the thrill of the experience Carlos.

As we, Mr. "L", myself and 3 girls from el infi, walked in, we definitely got the "Who the hell are these assholes" look from everyone. Well, maybe I was the pimp and Mr. “L” was “who the hell is this stud” but who cares.

But, just like in many other places, we went about our business and enjoyed our 20-minute visit. And by the way, we only went there because "P" loves that place. I just could not resist her ‘please, please, can we go to El Inter for a little bit?” Just like many of our girls. They usually go there in groups. Almost all my regular girls.

I do realize and appreciate your concern and understand how I do not belong. But if I only went to places I did belonged, I would miss out on the few true authentic Monterrey experiences that I will cherish and write about in my "Wasted in Monterrey" book.

And ABSOLUTLY- you will never see me there alone. No way ...

Wasted

I guess Wasted's right, must have been la Internacional.
La Internacional IS a dance hall, not a hook up place, SC nor a *****house.
It is only a plain bar where people go to dance.
Nothing more.

And it is one place, Wasted, that you are a total fish out of the water.... there are places where we do not belong.
Very difficult to explain, but it is lower class for Monterrey.

[MonterreyDude]

I guess Wasted's right, must have been la Internacional.
La Internacional IS a dance hall, not a hook up place, SC nor a *****house.
It is only a plain bar where people go to dance.
Not like Sabino Gordo where the girls are there to hook.
Nothing more.

And it is one place, Wasted, that you are a total fish out of the water.... there are places where we do not belong.
Very difficult to explain, but it is lower class for Monterrey.

And Wasted, don't say that it was OK for you. It might have been OK for you cause you were there with P, but take P out and go alone and you'll be "fish out of the water".

But, if your "P" girl was going there, that would seem to confirm PO suspicions that what he was seeing there were, uhhh, professionals...was it for the same kind of R & R type of reason...kind of like when the working girls go to taboo to blow off steam? That may be what PO is experiencing. The girls in there are working girls, but off duty.

Like Carlos says, you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl. Perhaps that's why the place is kind of hard to scope out with respect to our kind of potential. Some of the girls are what they appear to be, but not working.

[El Cabron 007]

That would be correct. Off duty pro's. Another day in the life of a working girl.

And Wasted is there to live it with them. Lucky me?

This reminds me of an out of this world little coffee shop/bar in Bario Antigo(?) called La Tumba. It is a great place to kick back and listen to a local band of 2 or 3 playing to the pleasure, and requests, of the audience. I want to go back. Great memories with my first Monterrey love.

See some local girls write poems and give them to the leader of the band to read it or the girl would read it herself. I want to go back. Last I was there I took some coaster and postcards for keepsake.

Wasted

But, if your "P" girl was going there, that would seem to confirm PO suspicions that what he was seeing there were, uhhh, professionals...was it for the same kind of R & R type of reason...kind of like when the working girls go to taboo to blow off steam? That may be what PO is experiencing. The girls in there are working girls, but off duty.

Like Carlos says, you can take the girl out of the club, but you can't take the club out of the girl. Perhaps that's why the place is kind of hard to scope out with respect to our kind of potential. Some of the girls are what they appear to be, but not working.