Tokyo

[Lubricate It]

Why never a kimono?

Kimonos are what older women wear, and the outfit commands respect. It an outfit for someone's mother or grandmother

[Fw190]

Can one of you students of cross-cultural behavior explain to me why the Japanese seem to go in for certain costumes, for example: schoolgirl uniforms, waitresses, nurses, flight attendants, etc.? I see in so many websites the option to request that the gal wear one of those costumes. Why costumes, and mostly those? Why never a kimono?

My assumption: she'll change into a maid soon enough. Preview: disappointment just around the corner!

[Pzfun]

I had a bit of luck finding Pan or Pon around 3AM. I was just walking on the street and usually I ignore the massage girls, since I know they're going to upsell. This one girl followed me as for a minute and dropped her price down to 3000 yen so I bit. She told me it was the near the end of the night and she had no one else. I went upstairs and started touching her to indicate what I was there for. She asked me for more money and I started to walk. She grabbed me and said OK just this one time. From that point on CBJ and a little touching at a discount price.The day before it rained and it was cold so the usual mongering crowd must have stayed in doors. Timing might have been on my side, but on those dreary days you might be able to get a good deal.

[Gaienmae]

some stuff i've come across purely by reading the news...translation of a japanese article on the mainichi shinbun site:jeepers creepers, your love hotel might be crawling with peepersand a sort of lh faq from the japan times:no-tell love hotels cash in catering to the carnal

[Homer69]

I wouldn't characterize most of the Chinese places. More like many of the Chinese places in Shinjuku and other places where there are touts that act more like hustlers than touts. Many Chinese places I have gone to are run by Japanese and they give you the straight stuff up front. I've always been adamant about the full cost up front and make this very clear and I have not been hassled for more in mid stream. But then, all of the Chinese places I've gone to were scouted online so they at least had a website, usually on a-side or one of the other fuzoku sites.The exception is NK where I've gone without scouting homepages, but you can negotiate very clearly there, too.

This is a perfect example of how most of the Chinese places operate.

[Lion]

We head back to the main street and get approached by a fairly attractive tout. We follow her not very far, up some stairs and into a building. Another old man is there and shows us some pictures. We each pick from some picture cards, pay 10, 000yen each then we get taken to another building where we are taken into a large room separated into 3 smaller rooms and a shower area. I get a girl who looks nothing like the girl on the picture card. She asks me where I am from and then starts to give me a handjob. She has a nice figure and is not unattractive but nothing like what I would pick for FS back in Beijing. I start caressing her back and butt and immediately she says something like "You likee touch? Good time 50, 000". I think I have misheard her and say "What? How much? " She says "5, 0, 0, 0, 0" with her hand. I say no. She says "You will likee very muchee". I say no. I say no about 8 more times in response to her pleas and then she says "Ok, 30, 000". She has completely killed the mood with the continual badgering and poor handywork that I keep saying no. She takes out some plastic wrap and gives me a cbj (cheapskate couldn't even spring for a condom dammit) whilst trying to negotiate mid gulp. "No, not interested, no. " The price goes down to 20, 000. "I not do this for anyone else". I feel so special but remain stoic. The cbj stops, she takes out the massage oil and with her free hand, moves my hand to her tits. Nice but still the answer is no. She gets down to 10, 000. "Really, I?m not interested. " I say, trying to show real frustration, but she persists. "ok 5, 000 ? very special" My dick has been hearing "No" so many times by now it has a mind of its own, thinks I am talking to it and goes limp. She sees she is having no luck with getting me excited by the persistent badgering. Ahh the sweet relief of silencee. I try to focus on the oily handjob for all of 30 seconds before I hear "3, 000 that?s it. Very low price. Very special. Ok? " I say no. We go through this dance of lust for another few minutes before I remind her that she?s about to run out of time and I haven?t had my first pop yet. She?s got her work ahead of her cause the dick isn?t cooperating. She tries the cbj again and this helps. Slop slop slop and finally there is some attention. Some quick strokes for a few minutes and finally some relief, if only from the annoying negotiations. Go out and have another shower and overhear her speaking Chinese with her friend. Turns out she is Taiwanese putting herself through college of some sort. I talk to her in Chinese and tell her she really killed the mood with all that ridiculous broken badgering. She said that she sees very little of the money that goes to the old man and that she has to rely on working it from the customers directly. I give her 1, 000yen in sympathy for a fellow countryperson. Damn woman tries to hit me up for 3, 000! I remind her that for 3, 000 I could have got a lot more than what she gave me. She smiles a little and then says "Ok. How about 2, 000". No, no and read my lips, no.EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

This is a perfect example of how most of the Chinese places operate.

[Kerfuffle]

With the closure of Yokohama's Koganecho windows, is anyone aware of other options for Thai girls in the Tokyo/Yokohama metro area that don't involve 1) standard Thai massage or 2) alcohol drinking establishments?

[Wujohn]

Ok I read the forum and basically couldn't find anything recent about gaijin-friendly soaplands.I did however manage to find this site: http://www.rosso-martini.com/schedule_week.htmlwhich was the closest thing to having anything in English which I could understand. But there was no map and no details about how to get there.Any guidance would be appreciated.Also, I have sent emails to Boo-mama asking for more information about Momo and Risa. Anyone have any information they would like to share about either or these gals? Theirs are the only girls whose photos aren't shown for Wednesday 17th.

[Evan Stoner]

Yes, Virginia, Tokyo Grand Love does accept ([at least] bilingual) foreigners. Listen up children and I will tell you a tale. [last night's Cowboys/Patriots game tape playing on the video, Styx on the audio.- yes I'm older than you.- and a cup of cold sake to hand] here we go.(By the way, for the benefit of International Sex Guide folks, Tokyo Pink Guide seems to have TGL well sussed thanks to 'Kitami'. I think I'm going to double-post to both ISG and TPG from now on. As you know, information wants to be free;.)About a month ago I was feeling randy so I decided to give TGL a call.- first time. Background item: I was mildly drunk, which did not impair my fairly good Japanese. As Kitami has stressed, good telephone Japanese is probably a prerequisite for this place. I checked out the website (http://www.tokyo-grandlove.com/) and the girls seemed quite CUTE. The theme is maid costume. Here was my experience: - I call TGL and request Kokoro-chan. Why? Because she's got the #1 'shimei' (request by name) ranking (http://www.tokyo-grandlove.com/ranking/). Besides, look at those tits (pic). By the way, this site has rankings (as others also do) for so much stuff (e. G. Slenderness, breast size, attitude, etc.) that if the girl you think is hot isn't on at least ONE of these lists you should probably give her a miss. Well, Kokoro is busy for another hour or so. I can't afford to wait because by then I'd be WELL drunk, and return on investment declines rapidly at that point. So.- I request *****-chan. Hmmm. Turns out that she is not partial to foreigners. Now. I wanted to be offended, but could not be. The guy on the phone explained it so reasonably, and we know how it is, right? In fact, in her stead, he suggested an alternative who was fine with us hairy white devils (or whatever). Enter, Maiko (pic). I hesitate, but as I'm checking out the home page, decide that I should move this transaction forward. Nice tits? 'Potential'.- Note that, all the while, your man on the phone is checking out my Japanese and making sure that this will be a successful transaction for all parties involved. I will note again, in agreement with Kitami: DON'T CALL TGL UNLESS YOU CAN SPEAK JAPANESE. This is for your benefit, but more generally, for the benefit of us all, and finally, more specifically, for my benefit: I want to call these guys up again, so don't shit where I eat.- Now (ostensibly) given the hassle I went through I get offered a special deal. I wanted the 18k for 60min plan, which would have included an additional 2k for 'membership fee' for total 20k. Your man tried to sell me an additional 2k for 'request by name fee', but since I ended up with my third choice I told him I wasn't buying in. However, I was offered the following special deal: 25k for 90min, rather than the 27 + 2 = 29k that should be incurred for first timers. I hesitated (again), but relented.- order placed! - 30 minutes later, there is a knock at my door. I saunter over, unlock and open it, and standing there in all her grandeur before me is. A guy in a suit. He's got a soft leather briefcase, and he steps into my 'genkan'. First, he shows me a page from a photo picture-book showing Maiko's picture. 'Yes, that's her all right officer'. He proceeds to go through a short explanation regarding how some girls likes gaijin and some girls don't.- I get it. Then he shows me a couple more pics, featuring girls who are apparently OK with us foreigners and can speak SOME English, like Aoi (pic) and Mii (pic). Promising for the future! Note, HOWEVER, this does not preclude the fact that you need to speak Japanese to navigate the phone guy and probably some of the finer details of the experience with the girl. Anyway. He also confirms that Kokoro is also OK with foreigners (I hope I got this right.- she's HOT). Then, he has me write my name, age, and occupation (? ) on a sheet of paper. Next, he explains the shop policy, which is NO SEX. I repeat, no sex. This is a 'fashion' establishment, and there is NO SEX on the menu. Assume nothing, play your cards right. Same as BOO (hint). I read the policy, and sign at the bottom. Huh? Finally, he gives me my LAMINATED MEMBERS CARD. SWEET! Gotta hide it from the girlfriend.- Finally, Mr. Suitcase takes his leave and Maiko enters. Looks VERY NICE. OL type outfit. My assumption: she'll change into a maid soon enough. Preview: disappointment just around the corner! By the way, her profile says 24 but she admits she is 27. Still, who's complaining (yet)? - Anyway, the LONG and short of it. Maiko is shy, which is cute at first. She liked my shag (.) carpet. Great. We shower together, which is fine, but she brings the disinfectant gargle with her. Only ever had that at Shibuya fashion healths. Natsukashii. Then, to the bedroom, where she is engaging and cutesy, but basically a dead fish on my bed when it comes to actual action. Some foreplay, followed by CBJ, finishing up with gel-assisted BBHJ. FS was offered for an extra tener, but I declined.- I was convinced she under-delivered the standard service to try to get extra coin for extra service. I won't encourage that sort of behaviour. Her tits are not real, be warned, however I thought they were FAIRLY WELL DONE. Hope she tipped her plastic surgeon.- So I forgot to mention the maid costume. She didn't have one on and didn't change into one later. Apparently you have to request it, even the complimentary ones! (http://www.tokyo-grandlove.com/costume/) I didn't really care and did not mention it, although next time I'll ask for one. The maid costumes (#1-8) are free, while the others (bunny girl, China dress, nurse, race queen and stewardess) cost an extra 3k.Overall, a 7 out of 10 experience. I think I got stuck with a bad egg, and you know 7/10 with a bad egg ain't actually that bad after all. Kitami notes that BBBJ is available and I have no doubt that is the case, girl-dependent, YOU-dependent, mood-dependent. Anyway, I've got my member's card and was able to establish a viable alternative to CB and AM. I'm looking forward to checking out a few other TGL ladies going forward. Unfortunately the only thing that is guaranteed is a vigorous rub, but this is a higher class of LESS-USED girls than the alternatives. I likey.Out,ESEDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Lubricate It]

I have searched the forums and could not find directions for this place is possible for someone to link me directions or repost them.

Find the plaza with the old steam loco in it. With the station behind you walk between the front of the steam loco, and the white lattice building, up the street (with the station behind you). It's in that street, on the right, after the pachinko shop, and opens at 4pm.

[Homer69]

No problem Wujohn. Most mongerers here operate solo. The only time I don't is when I have someone Japanese with me which is infrequent but occasional and they can get me into health places that I would otherwise have no prayer of entering. I don't have the budget for soaps but many fuzoku places closed to us can be had if someone Japanese can convince them that you are an important client and that you understand the rules. Dressing in a suit or at least a tie and coat helps immensely, too.

Thanks Homer. I never thought about it that way. I am Chinese and my friend was American. This time however, I will be on my own. Guess I'll have to overcome my own personal insecurities.....

[Wujohn]

However you can go to Kawasaki and get a quick relief for ￥10,000 for ...30 min or so many nice looking ones there at the moment.Or if you want nice english chat read about the mongerers posts about AM, I know not cheap but at least you get a good 2 hours and the chance of many pops if you can.Good web site too, so you can choose the girl you can ring then they all speak english in the office www.asianmystique.comTopos

Many thanks. For some reason I have difficulties opening the AM website when I am in Beijing. Curiously, no such problems with the Clubboo website. I will have to try again when I am in Tokyo and from what I can gather reading the forum, the prices are about the same, although knowing that I will speak to someone in English when I ring AM is a real plus. Will report back with how it turns out but there are so many AM reports now, I wonder if it would add much.I will do some more research on Kawasaki. Thanks for the heads up.Shame you are not back til the 22nd. If you are ever in Beijing, I would love to reciprocate with some tips.

Wujohn,How many are in your group when you go out? You're always much better off going solo unless your buddy is Japanese and can get you into places. Two or more foreigners are very intimidating to most places. You might feel more comfortable but they won't.

Thanks Homer. I never thought about it that way. I am Chinese and my friend was American. This time however, I will be on my own. Guess I'll have to overcome my own personal insecurities.....

[Topos]

[=Wujohn]Ok so I?m doing my research and R(?ing)TFF because I?m going to be in Tokyo from Wednesday 17th to Saturday 20th and I want to avoid the severe disappointment I had last time I went mongering.QUOTE}]Just read your report about comming here and thought I would let you know that basia is out of the country and will be back 20th OctoberI am too but get back 22nd October and plan to see her after that.Seiki has been closed for well over a year now, but was good for a quick thrill.wow you got badgered from your on kind thats bad anyway the chinese have a reputation for being agressive I stay away from them.However you can go to Kawasaki and get a quick relief for ￥10,000 for ...30 min or so many nice looking ones there at the moment.Or if you want nice english chat read about the mongerers posts about AM, I know not cheap but at least you get a good 2 hours and the chance of many pops if you can.Good web site too, so you can choose the girl you can ring then they all speak english in the office www.asianmystique.comGood luckLet me know how you doUnfortunately I`m out of the country when you are here.Topos

[Homer69]

Wujohn,How many are in your group when you go out? You're always much better off going solo unless your buddy is Japanese and can get you into places. Two or more foreigners are very intimidating to most places. You might feel more comfortable but they won't.

Ok so I?m doing my research and R(?ing)TFF because I?m going to be in Tokyo from Wednesday 17th to Saturday 20th and I want to avoid the severe disappointment I had last time I went mongering.Before I go into that, I?m intending to try the following:Sugamo near Shimbashi;Supergirls;Clubboo;Asianmystique;Maybe Basia if I have time. From her link in this forum she seems to be mid-30s and a tall blonde American.These seem to be the pick of the lot for non Japanese speaking mongers. Anyone want to add to the list or correct my selections, let me know before Wednesday! One quick question, is there any prejudice against Chinese guys? Am I just being paranoid or is there less willingness to accept Chinese guys than Westerners?

[Wujohn]

Ok so I?m doing my research and R(?ing)TFF because I?m going to be in Tokyo from Wednesday 17th to Saturday 20th and I want to avoid the severe disappointment I had last time I went mongering.Before I go into that, I?m intending to try the following:Sugamo near Shimbashi;Supergirls;Clubboo;Asianmystique;Maybe Basia if I have time. From her link in this forum she seems to be mid-30s and a tall blonde American.These seem to be the pick of the lot for non Japanese speaking mongers. Anyone want to add to the list or correct my selections, let me know before Wednesday! One quick question, is there any prejudice against Chinese guys? Am I just being paranoid or is there less willingness to accept Chinese guys than Westerners? So the last time I tried mongering in July, I had been told about Century 21 (Seiki21), a BJ bar with freeflow beer near Shibuya station. The instructions I got were very vague to begin with but the idea of a BJ bar was novel to me. So my friend and I are wandering around Shibuya looking for Seiki21 around 10: 30pm and not finding it. We go into one of the many sex shops around the place asking in English where Seiki 21 is and no one has any clue. I put this down to my speaking English rather than anything. I text my friend who introduced the place and all he says to me is "Look up for a big blue sign ? you can?t miss it! ". So stupid me, I?m walking around Shibuya, head tilted and eyes trying to sort through the myriad of neon and other signs and not finding it at all. Approaching 11:30pm, my friend and I are looking around at the various other options and notice that many of them close at midnight. Dammit, I didn?t come all the way from Ginza that night (let alone from Beijing that trip) to walk around and not find SOMETHING.We poke or heads into a few shops but all of them are not open to foreigners. We get approached by a very energetic old Japanese guy who motions "Sexu Sexu" with some hip thrusts. We follow down a number of darkening alleys until he comes to an alley with no lighting and a few shadowy figures who could only be made out by the occasional cigarette ember lighting up with each pull. We stop in our tracks and tell the guy that this is a far as it goes and we head back. We keep wandering around and in desperation, I suggest we go to a web bar and I pay to look up Seiki 21. As only one person is allowed in, I do my best to look for it and come up with a map. Unfortunately, I did not read anywhere that it had been closed for several years already. I make my way to where its supposed to be and bother a number of passers by for directions, all of whom tell me I am where I want to be. Dammit.We head back to the main street and get approached by a fairly attractive tout. We follow her not very far, up some stairs and into a building. Another old man is there and shows us some pictures. We each pick from some picture cards, pay 10, 000yen each then we get taken to another building where we are taken into a large room separated into 3 smaller rooms and a shower area. I get a girl who looks nothing like the girl on the picture card. She asks me where I am from and then starts to give me a handjob. She has a nice figure and is not unattractive but nothing like what I would pick for FS back in Beijing. I start caressing her back and butt and immediately she says something like "You likee touch? Good time 50, 000". I think I have misheard her and say "What? How much? " She says "5, 0, 0, 0, 0" with her hand. I say no. She says "You will likee very muchee". I say no. I say no about 8 more times in response to her pleas and then she says "Ok, 30, 000". She has completely killed the mood with the continual badgering and poor handywork that I keep saying no. She takes out some plastic wrap and gives me a cbj (cheapskate couldn't even spring for a condom dammit) whilst trying to negotiate mid gulp. "No, not interested, no. " The price goes down to 20, 000. "I not do this for anyone else". I feel so special but remain stoic. The cbj stops, she takes out the massage oil and with her free hand, moves my hand to her tits. Nice but still the answer is no. She gets down to 10, 000. "Really, I?m not interested. " I say, trying to show real frustration, but she persists. "ok 5, 000 ? very special" My dick has been hearing "No" so many times by now it has a mind of its own, thinks I am talking to it and goes limp. She sees she is having no luck with getting me excited by the persistent badgering. Ahh the sweet relief of silencee. I try to focus on the oily handjob for all of 30 seconds before I hear "3, 000 that?s it. Very low price. Very special. Ok? " I say no. We go through this dance of lust for another few minutes before I remind her that she?s about to run out of time and I haven?t had my first pop yet. She?s got her work ahead of her cause the dick isn?t cooperating. She tries the cbj again and this helps. Slop slop slop and finally there is some attention. Some quick strokes for a few minutes and finally some relief, if only from the annoying negotiations. Go out and have another shower and overhear her speaking Chinese with her friend. Turns out she is Taiwanese putting herself through college of some sort. I talk to her in Chinese and tell her she really killed the mood with all that ridiculous broken badgering. She said that she sees very little of the money that goes to the old man and that she has to rely on working it from the customers directly. I give her 1, 000yen in sympathy for a fellow countryperson. Damn woman tries to hit me up for 3, 000! I remind her that for 3, 000 I could have got a lot more than what she gave me. She smiles a little and then says "Ok. How about 2, 000". No, no and read my lips, no.EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.