Bangkok Reports

[Old Thai Hand]

I was first in Thailand in 1972 and then a LT was 100 baht at an exchange rate of 25 to $1 US.

RA

Are you, like me tired of all the whining and wimpering about the rise in prices? What do people expect? - that Thailand stay in some time warp? Costs are up for everything here and this even, G_d forbid trickles down to P4P. A good indicator of the reality, for example is something as basic as gasoline which was 9B/litre in 1997 and now is 30+. Ya, I remember when barfines were 300 and BGs, even from Nana would go LT for 1000. But, inflation and market forces hit everthing.

Deal with it, guys or go somewhere else!

[Retired Army]

Jim,
My first trip to Bkk was in 2000 and the barfines at Nana were 500-600 baht.

I was first in Thailand in 1972 and then a LT was 100 baht at an exchange rate of 25 to $1 US.

[Retired Army]

With all due respect, and realizing I am a newbie, it would seem that RODs are based on the moderator's opinion. One of my very first posts received an ROD suggestion, and I gladly posted in the ROD thread. The ROD instruction page states repeatedly that this is truly subjective and not a reward to the author.

While I agree that several reports that receive an ROD suggestion are not necessarily the most helpful or even best written, I personally try to follow ROD rule number 7.

7. If you don't like a report that has an ROD Link, just let it go.

However, in the words of the great Penn Jillette, I could be wrong.

From what I have seen a newbie could write a thousand words of complete nonsense that is totall unrelated to anything in reality and it gets recommended for a report of distinction. As to the report you refer it did nothing but ask newbie questions that have been addressed hundreds of times before and all the author had to do was search the forum for the answers. At least no one was rude enough to suggest that he RTFF.

[Old Thai Hand]

Ok, I've picked up the street girls in Chinatown, but I've never seen anything that looked like an actual brothel. And there are Indian brothels? Please, tell me more! Are they cheap? Would they admit a white? I wonder if Indian men hold the line on sai-toongs?

Just ask around and you'll find them. I haven't been to them in years - too depressing. Although, I know aquaintenances who like to live dangerously, and still go to these places. I warn you though that the girls are quite unpleasant and not exactly stunning. There are similar places in Chiang Mai, as well, if you like places that have girls who are indentured sex-slaves - might be right up your alley.

[PinkPearl]

While it's been predicted for years, both Nana and Cowboy are going to be gone relatively soon. In 10 years, they will be but a memory. With the huge development rising fast at the corner of Asoke, the very upmarket nature of the area, now and the associated rise in the value of land, having a little ramshackle street of 4 storey shop-houses involved in a nefarious trade such as Cowboy is not consistent with the whole environment of the area.

As far as building appearances go that may be so, but what is consistent with the environment of the area is that it is just one big brothel. So even if the old structures where NEP and Cowboy are were demolished, this would probably result in them being rebuilt with bigger and better accomodations of the same name and for the same purpose.

[PinkPearl]

I've read the mentioning of a high and low season. I'm assuming this coincides with the weather patterns and we are now into a low season. Is this correct? When does the high season start and end? I'm assuming there may be some benefit in visiting during the low season. Availability and prices.

Others can answer this better, but as I understand it in BKK we are now approaching the high season when tourism will be up and the weather the most cool and best of the year. I assume it is called high season because the numbers of farangs, that is, foreigners, is on the rise. I read somewhere of the high season in Pattaya being from November to March, and I think BKK must be quite similar. With a number of hotels and ladies this will mean charging more and less availability. But also more meat in town for rent.

[Tom1055]

From listening to all this stuff about BKK getting too pricey, I need to get there fast. But the question does pop up, where is the next BKK? Is there a place that reminds you old timers (I mean, men of wisdom) of the way BKK used to be?

[Opebo]

...the Chinese brothels in Yaowarat and the Indian ones in Phaharat will still be operating well into the future.

Ok, I've picked up the street girls in Chinatown, but I've never seen anything that looked like an actual brothel. And there are Indian brothels? Please, tell me more! Are they cheap? Would they admit a white? I wonder if Indian men hold the line on sai-toongs?

[Bob Down]

JimHart69,

I cannot confirm that. The bar fines are at THB 600 in Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy, since approx. 3 years. Some bars try THB 700 at the moment - but that is a new development, I just heard about it last week.

The girls still go ST for THB 1,500 and LT for THB 2,000. Of course the girls prices are slightly higher in the high season, based on the higher demand, same as all the years before.

Giotto

When I was in Morning and Night bar Soi Nana two months ago, the girl I was sitting with was asking 2000 THB ST and 3000 THB LT. She also said some girls in the bar were asking and getting 4500 THB LT. I know girls in Hillary Bar are asking the same ( 3000 THB LT), maybe because they have the same bar owner.

[Old Thai Hand]

JimHart, you are exactly correct - South Korea is a good predictor. I agree we have about ten years left, and I would even say that those 10 years will not be much fun. Already every year I have been in Thailand has been shadowed by a sense of impending doom. That said it is better than being back in the Prison, but having come from there, I know exactly where the world is going.

On the bright side.. well actually there is no bright side.

As the pseudo-socialist you are, I should think you'd be happy that the "little guy" (or in this case, "the little girl") is doing better, economically. What's wrong with Thailand developing? You, yourself always go on about BKK not being Thailand. So, what if P4P in BKK prices itself out of existence? There's still all those cheap upcountry skanks, you're so fond of, right?

While it's been predicted for years, both Nana and Cowboy are going to be gone relatively soon. In 10 years, they will be but a memory. With the huge development rising fast at the corner of Asoke, the very upmarket nature of the area, now and the associated rise in the value of land, having a little ramshackle street of 4 storey shop-houses involved in a nefarious trade such as Cowboy is not consistent with the whole environment of the area. At the moment, it's a hold-out. But, it will not last much longer. I'll mourn it a little as I always liked Cowboy as being a somewhat friendly place to go. Although the last time I was there (about a month ago), the girls were a bit more pushy, there were more Japanese (wankers that they are), the girls were quite unattractive and the atmosphere overall was less friendly.

Expect Nana to follow in short order after the King dies. I expect a good deal of the Nana area to be developed, as well in the near future. It's crown land. The Royal Household Bureau is already doing this in other parts of the city: tossing out long-standing leaseholders, taking over the land and developing it. Believe it or not, Nana was once a "Royal" area with palaces and palatial mansions. What it has become in the last 40 years is quite sad, really. But, as Bangkok develops into a regional hub, which has been the plan for sometime, an area like Nana just doesn't fit into the plans. Personally, I won't be sad to see Nana go. I never liked the place and now the atmosphere is oppressive, if not downright hostile. I find the girls to be mediocre, at best and very high on themselves, for no good reason. They're still just ignorant farm-girls with no education, who if it wasn't for this place would be working 12 hour shifts in some factory in Samut Prakan for 3,000/month. Nana is over-run with socially-inept Japanese and Koreans and even Chinese all gawking like 14-y.o. boys with stupid grins and throwing money around like there's no tomorrow. I was there last Saturday for the first time in months. What a fucking shit-hole it is. Why anyone would enjoy going there is beyond me.

Anyway, don't worry, Mr. O., you never go there and the Chinese brothels in Yaowarat and the Indian ones in Phaharat will still be operating well into the future. I assume that Patpong, as shitty as it is will keep running for awhile, as well. And, while out of your price range, the Thai Massage places will never disappear. The same goes for the Thai gogos in Suthisan, at least for now.

[Appcid]

I've read the mentioning of a high and low season. I'm assuming this coincides with the weather patterns and we are now into a low season. Is this correct? When does the high season start and end? I'm assuming there may be some benefit in visiting during the low season. Availability and prices.

[PinkPearl]

Hi there,

I'm planning a trip to BKK for a week.Looking to have a lot of fun out there,and keen on real lookers .Would appreciate guidance as to where to look for the 8+ girls and also additional info. if any.Definitely not looking to throw money but willing to pay for quality. : ) Thanks in advance

KK

My first thought was to just walk down the street, day or night, and there are many around.

If you think the photo section here is representative of TGs, you will be stunned when you get here.

See the usual haunts, NEP & Cowboy. Check out any bars in the P4P areas.

Pick up a copy of the magazine After Dark. Issue number four has almost nude pics of some stunners in BKK and Pattaya. And where to find them.

[Naked Gunz]

Need help....Going to Bangkok next month..I usually go to Pattaya, so
I don't know Bangkok well. Where are the massage parlors where the girls
are naked already? I only really know Cupidy, but the pakage is wrapped
and I can't see what I'm getting. I hate how Asian women wear padded bras.

I saw a pic here that showed the fishbowl with the naked girls, but I can't
find it in this website horrible picture find area.
Jackson please do something to make it ez to go to a pic! Just spent 3 hours trying to find that pic.

It takes that much time just to get from Z to T section scrolling thru all those pages. You must be a sadist..

PM is encouraged..thanks...the Gunz

[Opebo]

JimHart, you are exactly correct - South Korea is a good predictor. I agree we have about ten years left, and I would even say that those 10 years will not be much fun. Already every year I have been in Thailand has been shadowed by a sense of impending doom. That said it is better than being back in the Prison, but having come from there, I know exactly where the world is going.

On the bright side.. well actually there is no bright side.

[Gwailo]

From the late 90's until 2004, in most of the Bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy the BF where 400 THB and the girls were 1000THB for ST and 1500THB for LT.

Jim,
My first trip to Bkk was in 2000 and the barfines at Nana were 500-600 baht.