Pattaya Reports

[Evil Penivel]

She said the girls with red necklaces cannot be barfined. Anyone know differently?

In Secrets, as well as many other establishments, the girls with the red lanyards (cords around their necks to which their name badges are attached) cannot be barfined. That is correct. The girls with green lanyards can be barfined. It's mostly service and support staff and the mamasans that wear the red lanyards, but sometimes you'll find service staff wearing green.
BTW, Larry is an employee of Secrets, but he isn't the owner. The owner's name is Ben.

Evil

[Strad]

We went there last night in a group of four. My buddy who has been doing a lady from BKK, a non-pro, who happened to have a car, so the transpo was solved at this time.

Yes, it not too far to reach the seafood location. Its about 2-3 km from the begining of Jomtien, on the road side where they set wooden tables by the beach, and watching the sun going down was suh an wonderful experiece!

Strad

From my experience visiting Pattaya for the last 9 years and now retired in Pattaya. I don't hit the mongering places like many of you for reasons that most of you know. But like most things what comes around goes around! The nightly news and farang newspaper of late sugguest more problems with Germans. My point of view is Pattaya is all about money!

Maybe it's the strenght of the Euro that is attracting the problem drinking tourist or the time of the year but whatever the reason when the elements of money comes into question and the small gangs and the Thai Mafia and the local police get involve things will get back to normal! Whatever that is suppose to be? Even my limited visits to Walking Street, Soi 6,7,8, I have seens fights and drunks running around and acting like idiots and the next time it dead! The local police has recuited many Farangs working out of Soi 9, on beach road to help them with these types of arrest. As for Pattaya going downhill, I think not!

LBM

[Petemcc]

Just as a matter of interest, posters on other boards have brought to light stories, and you know, Norwegians are making a name for themselves as twats.
I do accept the English-style lager lout is also a twat, and all I can hope is that the BiB sort them out.

[TripleX]

Just got back from Thailand. While in Pattaya I stayed at Dynasty Inn on Soi 13 and Secrets right off walking street. At first I thought Dynasty Inn was really nice but my room had roaches and not just a few. I have stayed at the Dynasty resort before up on the hill and never had any problems. The resort is not very convenient but it is serene and a nice place to relax. Secrets has a great bar, is convenient, and the owner Larry was a good guy and the hotel had the most comfortable bed I slept in while in Thailand. It was a little noisy though as I was warned about on the forums, but it didn't cause me any problems. I didn't take any girls from Secret's bar cause I fell in love (not literally, well almost) with a girl from one of the gogo's but I noticed a few cute ones there at Secrets. I mostly went during the day to the bar so I probably didn't get to see their choicest girls. I am curious about something one of the girls said though. She said the girls with red necklaces cannot be barfined. Anyone know differently? I was gonna ask the owner cause I saw him there all the time but then the last two times I was in the bar he was out.

[The Traveler]

What is the frigging big deal on Soi 6?!...I just don't get it! Am I missing something you guys aren't telling me?

Meatman,

first of all, unlike most bars and gogos around Pattaya, Soi 6 is more or less a short-time place which also provides rooms upstairs. It's also cheap, the barfine of approx. 300 baht does include the room, actually most girls live in these rooms, asking for 500-700 for a session.

Drinks are cheap and the girls aren't pushy, never met one asking for a drink. The girls who work there seemed to have a certain attitude and are usually a lot of fun, never met a starfish and those girls are often "open" for everything. Also some fresh meat from upcountry, something you won't find in a gogo.

All in all it's the atmosphere, far more relaxed than Soi 7+8 or Walking Street. In the past this venue was mostly visited by expats and not known by tourists. Many moons back even the Town Hall was located there.

A friend of mine used to own a bar there and he told me that some girls - even extremely ugly IMHO - made very good money by having up to 6-8 customers per day.

Sure, even Tahitian Queen 1 on Beach Road used to have a nice room in the back, but all in all it's the attitude of the girls and the fact that you can pop them right away. It's all a bit dark and shabby inside, but still fun.

[LittleBigMan]

From my experience visiting Pattaya for the last 9 years and now retired in Pattaya. I don't hit the mongering places like many of you for reasons that most of you know. But like most things what comes around goes around! The nightly news and farang newspaper of late sugguest more problems with Germans. My point of view is Pattaya is all about money!

Maybe it's the strenght of the Euro that is attracting the problem drinking tourist or the time of the year but whatever the reason when the elements of money comes into question and the small gangs and the Thai Mafia and the local police get involve things will get back to normal! Whatever that is suppose to be? Even my limited visits to Walking Street, Soi 6,7,8, I have seens fights and drunks running around and acting like idiots and the next time it dead! The local police has recuited many Farangs working out of Soi 9, on beach road to help them with these types of arrest. As for Pattaya going downhill, I think not!

LBM

[Bowerboy]

I dont blame the English in general but just the "lad" types...if you are from England you will know exactly the type I mean...if you are not from England then it may be difficult for me to explain.

I agre with Sid, I really think this is part of a trend...I have been going to Pattaya probably at least once a month for the last 3 years and there seems to be a bigger number of these "lads" now....maybe I am wrong maybe it was just a new years holiday thing, but I can well imagine Thailand becoming more popular back in England as described....

[ThaiLearner]

Sid

Yes I really fear that Pattaya could go seriously downhill if it gets flooded with more English. Here is an email that appeared on StickmanBangkok today:

Why just blame the English?

There are plenty of other scum from other countries who spoil things for everyone else just as much. I respect other people and there country that I visit and always use my manners.

[SidTheSexist]

"Pattaya the Blackpool of Thailand?"

I have recently added my rants worth about the poor state of decline my once loved city of Pattaya is now in. However, for someone to even consider the above statement is an outrage! Pattaya could never be that bad!!!!
Sid

[SidTheSexist]

Bowerboy,They come and they go! it's a matter of time before their actions catch up to them. You just happen to come at the same time they came. Next time same time same station you might have a better time.

LBM, have to disagree with you. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Although Im not suggesting that Pattaya is already condenmed, the changes I have noted myself in as little as the last 4 years, are, indeed, very worrying.
Continue having a great time and enjoying Pattaya for what it is. But be warned, it aint gonna last forever!
Sid

[Ozikboy]

IMHO she was amazing. NOw realize I was having a run of mediocre providers so this girl was a breath of fresh air. her name was Kim and she was at the La-La Land bar. 300 to the house for bar fine and she asked for 700. she has such a hot body that I gave her 1100.. I dont care if you flame me for tipping her nearly 52%. I am honoring her request that I not post her photo. sorry.

put her ass up in the air and run at it from across the room and tell her that the american who liked to dance sent you

peace

[LittleBigMan]

Bowerboy,

They come and they go! it's a matter of time before their actions catch up to them. You just happen to come at the same time they came. Next time same time same station you might have a better time.

Stad, Not sure where you are coming from to go to Jomtien, but as noted you should not have a problem catch a bus to Jomtien.

The seafood place you refer too, is it at the other end of Jomtien, where there are no beach chairs and embrallas, seem like the road is somewhat under construction and across the seafood place is a viewing wall? Is there a large dirt parking lot on the side of the place and the place has small and larg wooden tables? Some of waiters are ladyboys in mens clothing? If so, for example if you are coming from maybe the Big C, Central Pattaya, depending on the size of your party somewhere around 110 baht to 150 baht. You should have no problem catching a taxi back either ask the waiters or waitress to waive one down or do it yourself.

Good luck, LBM

[Bowerboy]

Sid

Yes I really fear that Pattaya could go seriously downhill if it gets flooded with more English. Here is an email that appeared on StickmanBangkok today:

"Pattaya the Blackpool of Thailand?
I spent a couple of days in Pattaya. What's happened to that place? While there I saw four farang fights. It just seems like there's gangs of lads everywhere looking for trouble and getting slaughtered on the Chang. It is not the same Pattaya as when I first went a couple of years ago. Maybe it's me getting boring, but I couldn't wait to get the hell out of there. Seems like Pattaya is turning into a stag do Blackpool."

I hate to say it as I am English, but those "lad" types really are the worst of the worst and bring the atmosphere down wherever they go. I met a girl on beach road on Friday night who was telling me that a lot of girls have been getting ripped off by Farang, ie: Not getting paid after the deed as agreed. I am sure the "lads" would be the type that would revel in this....I really hope things get back to normal in a few weeks but generally I fear you are right..it will be very sad indeed...

[Dinghy]

Strad - quite simple really - the bhat buses leave to Jomtien from the corner of 2nd Road and where the traffic coming up from Walking street turns onto 2nd . You can either get on one of the line-up and wait until they leave or walk a ways and catch the first one that stops for you. 10B. They go up and over the hill into Jomtien then down the beach road.

Since I haven't gone beyond soi 18 I don't know how far they go

[Meepmeep99]

I didn't make out that it was widespread at all. I said a faulty understanding of the barfine system among inexperienced visitors to Pattaya was one of the factors why barowners raise prices on BFs during high season. Over Xmas and New Year's, a lot of young guys who've never been to LOS before and who haven't done much mongering visit Pattaya for the first time. Among some of them, there are individuals who believe the BF also covers the cost of the girl's services. When that happens, there's a lot of problem for the girl, the customer and the bar. A high bar fine tends to discourage that kind of punter, just as it discourages the punters who think they can charm the girl into sex without cash compensation.

It's not a widespread problem, but it's not rare, either.

Evil

I'm sorry I have to disagree, IMO the high bar fine is to deter customers from removing girls from the bars thus keep the girls in the bar and attracting more punters in to spend money on drinks and lady drinks, a bar with no girls in it will have no customers in it either, if the girls in the go go's were 300bt instead of 600bt then come 9pm there'd be no girls on the stage because they'd be all taken, shrewd bar owners don't want any girls barfined as it kills there bars atmos. If anything a high barfine lets say 1000-1500bt could confuse a newbie in to thinking it all inclusive but not 300bt or even 600bt, if I had a bar I'd be scared shitless that a load of lads might come in take all five girls 300bt bf each, 150bt to the girl, 150bt x5= 750bt for the bar and an empty dead bar.

Meepmeep99