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01-31-08 12:21 #4439
Posts: 35Ikebukuro Mikado
The pink room used to be located right in the middle of the theater, next to the vending machine. As I have not been at that joint for some time, I don't know if they stopped it. They were the last strip show operating one of those in Tokyo. A couple of years earlier you could get FS for an extra 3000 in a separate room in Nishikawaguchi, or at the Warabi Theater (which has gone out of business last November). Those were the days.That dildo show you mentioned still is a standard part of the program at many strip shows, giving the more experienced ladies something to compete with and stay in business. Japanese term is ten-ita. Gaijin costumers might or might not be able to participate. Some people might like the idea to play before a large crowd. This is usually at the start of the program. If there is a pink room service, the lady who did the dildo show will be providing it.Some of the younger dancers use some sex toys for their polaroid shows lately.
Originally Posted by Gamma Ray 007
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01-31-08 09:51 #4438
Posts: 2Higashi-Gotanda ~ Taiwanese Cuties FS
Went to the Higashi-gotanda area and found touts all over the place. Walked around until a gal came up to me and said only, 'Massage? ' She may have been Korean or Chinese, but I didn't think she was Japanese. At least not a classic Tokyo face. I said I wanted sex, not just 'ferra', I wanted to pick a girl and that I didn't want smoking anywhere around. Of course, like all good touts, the answers to all my questions were 'yes, yes, yes. ' I followed.Went up to a third landing in an 'unwonderful' setting. Clutter in the narrow staircase, decaying toothed 'manager' in the smoke filled waiting room, and incessant 'sit' to me. Which I explained outside the room, I couldn't do as the chain-smoking Japanese man in the waiting room was making me sick with his putrid 2nd hand smoke. Not very reinforcing. After 'Smoky' left, I said that I needed to see pictures. The manager had 4, all of which looked quite cute. I said I wanted sex, deep kissing and would not be with a smoking girl. Of course, all were answered with, 'yes, yes, yes. ' I'm a bit skeptical. Maikin (money first 15K for 1hr or 1 Jizzbomb, whichever comes first. I pay and hope the girl is like the photo.Manager goes out one door, and then opens a different door to the smoke-filled waiting room and bows and hand signals a welcome to me to follow him in. I follow him into the 'room'. Approximately 22' long and maybe 15' wide with hospital style ceiling hardware that hangs curtains (like an ER) to make just a bit more than bed sized curtained cubicles (perhaps 8 or so) within the larger room. He pulls back the curtain for one and 'BAM'! There's Shen Min Tsu! She's got a great welcoming smile and is a 9 on the 'no makeup beauty' scale! She tells me 'Kaori' and I tell her I want her real name. She quickly tells me that she's Taiwanese and her name is Shen Min Tsu. She grabs my hand, laughs, and asks about a shower. I just showered before coming to Gotanda (maybe 40 minutes prior) so I decline and she says she'll be back in a couple of minutes. She gives me a plastic hamper for my clothes and she takes off. I'm liking what I've seen and am hoping on a nice 'massage'.I undress except for underware and t-shirt and wait about 3 minutes for Shen Min Tsu. I take her into my arms and we face to face cuddle and she's feeling great, and smelling great. No smoking, fresh hair and fresh skin. She's got a very small light cotton baby-doll top on and string panties.Into the hamper goes my t-shirt and shorts. We do a couple more deep kisses, breaking the kiss sessions with some conversation and laughs. This is FUN! I pull off her top (very cooperative) and I'm kissing and fondling a super great set of titties! I even asked her if they were real or storebought! They are firm, great nipples and standup like cupcakes on her trim body. My hands search her body and with a happy face, she accommodates with a weight shift as as I slip off her string panties. Shen Min Tsu moves her legs open and as we kiss, my hands find the sweet zone. I tenderly touch her vulva and clitoris while kissing her titties, so Shen Min Tsu responds by kissing my titties back. Very nice. She then gets a condom (no BBBJ) all the way on. Shen Min Tsu's oral techniques weren't Porn video quality, but there were no complaints from me on how her mouth felt, we're smiling each time we pause and look at each other close.DFKissing, fondling, raincoat fucking, varied positions. Always with a smile mad e this a great experience. A quick cleanup with tissue and she takes me to a shower and I clean up. When done, and dressing, Shen Min Tsu goes and takes a quick shower and returns. I've got (no surprise) time left on my 60 minutes; so we 'play'. Kiss, hug, touch and talk. She's a cutie that made me feel like this was a great GFE with a 9'er on the beauty scale! For both Face and Body! Too cute! So nice! FFFEDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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01-31-08 07:06 #4437
Posts: 109Enjyo Kosai
Thanks for the confirmation guys.James: I appreciate the tips. You mention
Originally Posted by James Midason
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01-31-08 00:12 #4436
Posts: 71Jackazzzz
Jackazzzz......Just tried to PM you, but apparently your mailbox is not accepting messages. Can you please PM me? I'll be in Tokyo on business in a few weeks, and I wanted to ask you a couple of questions about Tokubetsu-ya. Thanks
Originally Posted by Jackazzzz
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01-30-08 16:18 #4435
Posts: 9Yoshiwara - complete report
I say with no exaggeration that I have now fully investigated Yoshiwara. I would guess that I went into a solid 50 soaps tonight. I've suffered so you don't have to. I was honestly surprised at the lack of warm and friendly welcomes, although there were a few places that stood out. This may be due to the fact that I concentrated on low-mid-range places, but even the high-end places I tried seemed very mixed. Also, I avoided every place with an bath / entry fee of 25, 000 and up (which means a LOT of places. Probably half). Please, if you know more than this. Tell me! As people seem to need the scene set, I'm American, 30, speak tolerable Japanese, and was wearing a suit since I went after work. I hit on the bright idea of asking politely for a card as a way of showing that I could speak Japanese and also not start with the idiotic 'gaijin dame? ' that I'm sure others use. I now have 16 shop cards, which is pretty cool. Names are going to have to do for you. If you can't look these up and call them in Japanese, you're on your own (as are the people who claim to be mongers but can't figure out where Yoshiwara is! ). Also, the prices are what they are.. Don't listen to the bozos who tell you 30, 000 is 'the average'. I was quoted everything between 12, 000 and 75, 000 yen, often with explicit gaijin charges (especially when I asked), and these are completely correlated to the signs outside. If they have a 'bath entry fee' (three characters, nyu-yoku-ryo, enter-bath-fee) then the prices is 3-3. 5X that. If they state an inclusive price (two complex characters, sou-gaku) then that's the price (unless you're a foreigner, maybe).- Rejections: F-ing EVERYWHERE. I can't even begin to count the places, and I didn't write them down. A LOT of places just gave me a big 'betsu' as soon as the door opened. Only one or two let me get through a little conversation before explaining that gaikoku no kata were.. Surprisingly. Rejected at Academy (someone else posted that they went there? And I'm jealous) and Shogun. Assumed that 75, 000-class places were OK with foreigners. Also a cool Japanese-looking place near there called Ooku (like Dai Oku san, but I got shot down anyway).. Not surprisingly, got shot down at Rei (in the Academy group. Truth? ) and Santa Fe. If anyone has an in to these places, for god's sake tell me, because the picture / price ratio looks great.- Places that were gaijin-friendly with surcharges (generally 90 minutes, price and surcharge in man): Aqua Palace (3, 1=4 man total), Silky Doll (3, 1), Don Quixote (3. 5, 1), Club Naniwa (3. 5, . 5. I think, but they were desperate and there's a lower price on the web. Not many girls though.), Taipei (2. 8, 1. 3. Seriously! ).- Places that just seem cheap and OK: hopefully everyone knows the 'dream7000' group by now, they've been in posts before. I went to one of the cheaper clubs and they turned me down until I showed my 'member's card' from Prima Dona. Romanee Conti (part of the Orange Group, but I know I got canned at several of their other outlets. The guys here were super-nice and talkative.) Tennyo (spelled sora-onna). 60 minutes for 12, 000? In a sweet, decaying Japanese-style environment that looks like it was last redecorated in 1920? I'm so there. Scarlet. Can't remember the price and they don't have a site, but it was cheap.- Places that are expensive but might tempt me: Tokubetsu-ya. I told these guys I was just having a walk and investigating, and they insisted on sitting me down in the waiting room to explain the price (110 min, 7 man), then they made a big deal out of the 'leaving customer'. I'd be theirs for life if I could work myself up for the price. The girls look great on the site (ID: toku, PW: 1212 for the private area). Aristo (2 hours, 7. 5). They were a little rude, but somehow I liked it.OK, that doesn't total 16, but there were a few solid performers that I just can't part with. Sorry.Geez, I should get paid for writing that. Good luck, and for the luvva Pete send me some kinda private message if you have more real info to swap.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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01-30-08 15:11 #4434
Posts: 408Originally Posted by South by SW 2
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01-30-08 14:24 #4433
Posts: 61Enjyo Kosai - NOT
Originally Posted by South by SW 2
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01-30-08 09:41 #4432
Posts: 109My enjo kosai non-experience
Just wanted to share this odd experience with you guys.On my last trip to Tokyo I stopped by Motown for old time's sake. It was a Friday night and a broker-type gaijin came in with two twenty somethings. I traded some small chat with one of them at the bar as I was getting a refill. The guy leaned over and basically told me that if I said the right things, she'd go home with me and screw me into unconsciousness. Her English was even more limited than my Japanese. Anyway, I obviously didn't say the right things and they packed up to leave after about 20 mins. I gave her one of my nampa cards with my keitai on it.I forgot about her until the following Friday when she sent me a text message asking me if I remembered her, etc. Quickly she asked if I was free that night. I wasn't and she immediately asked about the next day. She offered to come by my hotel. Her eagerness made me suspicious. We went to the Mandarin hotel to have some afternoon tea on Saturday. She was 23, no college, working as a waitress, average looks. Basically what it boiled down to was an enjo kosai (compensated dating) deal. If I buy her a coat she wanted she would be my girlfriend for the remainder of my stay - which was only about three days at that point. We went over to Omotesando to check out the boutique. The coat she had in mind was 210,000 yen. I practically laughed at her. With that amount of money I could fuck myself raw with AM's finest. She quickly fell back to another shop with a 140,000 yen model. I talked her into going to a karaoke booth with the intention of finding out if she was worth the money. I told her I wasn't sure if we would be compatible. But she wasn't interested in giving out free samples. She was insistent that she would be the best girlfriend I ever had, she would see me off at the airport, she was cold without a coat, etc. She simply couldn't comprehend that I wouldn't drop that kind of money on her without so much as a kiss. Even if I bought the coat and kept it until I left for Narita, I'd still basically be hoping that she was worth having around for three days. I had the feeling she'd want to taxi around and go to expensive restaurants.That's basically where it ended. We had this circular discussion going as I packed up and left karaoke box and went down to the street. It probably would have been funny on film, but it was mostly exasperating. Maybe she was a sexual dynamo and I missed the best three days of my life, but there you have it. Hopefully if you guys find yourself in a similar situation, you'll do a better job of negotiating than I did. Or you'll find a semi-pro with more realistic expectations.SbySW
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01-30-08 05:43 #4431
Posts: 107Mikado and Yuri visits
I paid a visit to the Mikado-Gekijyo strip theater in Ikebukuro on the rumor that it had a pink-room. By the way, the map for this (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...1802&z=19&om=0) is dead on, so it is very easy to get to from the N. exit of the Ikebukuro theater. Just head out the North Exit, proceed NE (parallel to the JR tracks) to the first little street on your left. The theater is at the end of the alley and a very welcoming doorman will greet you. It was 4,000 when I went, and my discount ticket did no good as I guess I was some kind of "early bird," arriving about 4:30.The stage was wide and faced by three--I think--rows of bench seats with a runway that juts out from the stage a couple meters. The best seats, IMHO, are on either side of that runway in the SECOND row, as a lot of the close-up floor work is only visible from the 2nd or 3rd rows. There were the usual group of cuties and plenty to enjoy about the show. One in particular was a real delight--big smile, different acts for each show, and a lovely rear end. I saw no sign of a pink room, and nobody in the theater came or went, and if there is one it must be accessed from outside the theater. As I left I asked the doorman, "Is there any 'special' room?" --making a subtle (!) hand-jerking motion--and he assured me, "No! Nothing!" Of course, you should take that comment for what it is worth.After the five young gals did their thing they all came out for an all nude session of close-up high-octane display of pink bits. They were in very good humor, and rotated so if you had a good seat you got to see each one quite well. AFTER the five, a much older woman came out and did a kind of "stroll around in a long dress" routine that didn't do much for anybody, as far as I could tell, but when she left the stage a young man hopped up and knelt down in the center. "Oh, no," I thought, "I don't want to see his dick!" When the performer came back out it was obvious that he was the human prop. She controlled all the events quite thoroughly--definitely not her first time--and the chunky young guys job was to comply. He began by giving her a furious pat-down under her dress, then moved to massaging her breasts as though kneading a stubborn lump of dough. When her dress came off he was allowed to finger her pussy, which he did with diligence if not grace. He was then invited to dine at the Y, which was followed by the lady extracting a rather small dildo from her box of goodies. Our lad proceeded to shove it in and out energetically, and when she finally had him call a halt, she arched her back and held a pose until she firmly ejected it from her pussy.Then out came the wet wipes, and Junior's lips and hands were wiped off, applause was offered, and applause and polaroids followed. Definitely a first for me--I had never seen a dildo show in Ueno or Shinjuku, or the practice of having five cute young things and one mature lady for the rougher act.I hopped on the train to the Nippori station and tracked down the Yuri esute place also mentioned here. The Google map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...101e282b4e9731) is very accurate, and it is across the street from the Tokiya hotel but in the middle of the next block North. It was cold and rainy, and the door opened at the top of the stair. A Chinese gentleman was going to close it on me when I said, "Yuri?" Again, door swung. Then I flashed my printout of their website map and I was welcomed in. Interesting!It is quite a funky place--small, with tiny booths just bigger than the towel-covered mattresses. I forked over the 8,500 yen and he took me to a booth, where a young lady waited, apparently of Mongolian descent. She was cute, friendly, possibly in her 30's, and with large breasts discretely augmented. She spoke no Russian, but absolutely lit up and hugged me when I tried a few Mongolian phrases on her. I have no Japanese to speak of, but so far it hadn't hurt me. She helped me clean up in a warm shower, came back to the booth, and was entirely and enthusiastically obliging as I enjoyed touching, fondling, massaging etc. She offered more massage after the main event, but I had had a good time, so another shower and some assisted dressing was all I needed before heading into the night.All in all it was a decent night, with the total bill not too devastating. Yuri's is not for the squeamish, however, but seems to represent real value.
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01-30-08 04:19 #4430
Posts: 6Pink Salons - Esutes - Soaplands - Street Walkers
(Excuse the possible repetition.- I only wanted to edit some minor mistakes)After some time reading the contributions to the Tokyo forum, and after some time living in this city, I think it is time to add my two cents to the community and to the discussions.In my mongering experience I have found four types of providers/establishments about which I will speak here. I have no experience with escort agencies (such as Boo, AM or Alla) or with upscale soaplands.1. Pick salons. In the past I visited Sugamo salons several times. With time, I must say, the service quality has decreased to the point of making them not worth the visit.My first visit cost 3000 yen for three girls. And from that down to one single girl for the same price. Only lately ?four months ago-- I got two girls for 3000 yen, but the quality was terrible.Not much can be added to what has been said in the forum. None of the girls is a beauty, and the skills are very variable. Some become naked, some not; some allow some access to their private areas and some don?t.The privacy of the whole thing is precarious. I also have some concerns regarding the hygiene. A monger mentioned that he took a towel to avoid direct contact with the bench or the shop towel. A good idea, I add.Sugamo pink salons tolerance for foreigners depends on each of them. Only the first one on the right consistently allowed me in. The rest have rejected me at one time or another.I have no experience with Supergirls in Shimbashi.2. Esute.A lot of scams and bad experiences in this area. At the end I narrowed my options to two. Yuri in Nippori and YouYou in Sugamo. In both cases, the basic fee is 8500 yen per session (Yuri has the discount time before 6:00 PM), and only one pop is allowed.I grew to trust the tout welcoming you at the door without asking to see the pictures ?no real in the case of YouYou? or the girls. All in all, my experiences are correct with some ups and downs. I did not feel ripped off. The staff changes very often. Always Chinese.In these establishments, the routine is always the same. Shower, a light massage, and intercourse. The girl, too often, does not take much action and lets the customer to move with some fake moans or with some demands to finish soon.Both places admit foreigners. In Yuri, the tout speaks some English. Not the case in UU.3. Soaplands.I am only speaking about New York New York and Champs Elys?e in Ueno. Particularly, about the latest.I might have been lucky in my visits, but this is the place to go if you want to feel pampered. There is no FS in there, but the provider does work for her money in washing you and making sure you have a happy ending. Some mongers have complained that the satisfaction relies heavily on the provider. I only had one miss ?my first and only time at NYNY. My experiences at Champs have been consistently good: nice washing, good BBBJ, nice anal rimming, blow job to end.Both places admit foreigners. They always ask if that is the first time you go there for the sole purpose to make you understand the rules: no intercourse.4. Street walkers in Shin Okubo area.I have tried them twice. The price is negotiable and ranges between 10000 and 20000 yen plus hotel. One of them was Colombian ?terrible experience--, and the other Japanese.Most of the providers in there are Thais. Assorted looks and ages. On Sundays, the providers can be different and you can find some Japanese middle aged women.What strikes me the most is that the independent street walkers charge more than the providers in esutes, where the running costs of the business are actually higher and the providers receive less money. This must be the Japanese way of understanding capitalism.My conclusion after some years of mongering in Japan is that in general you have to fight for what they promised you before paying, the exception being the Japanese providers. In the esutes, providers and touts try to reduce the service time and rush you to finish. I never felt rushed in Champs, and the 50 min of the basic fee (9200 yen) is what you get.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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01-29-08 10:28 #4429
Posts: 6Pink Salons - Esutes - Soaplands - Strett Walkers
After some time reading the contributions to the Tokyo forum, and after some time living in this city, I think it is time to add my two cents to the community and to the discussions.In my mongering experience I have found four types of providers/stablishments about which I will speak here. I have no experience with escort agencies (such as Boo, AM or Alla) or with upscale soaplands.1. Pick salons.In the past I visited Sugamo salons several times. With time, I must say, the service quality has decreased to the point of making them not worth the visit.My first visit cost 3000 yen for three girls. And from that down to one single girl for the same price. Only lately ?four months ago-- I got two girls, but the quality was terrible.Not much can be added to what has been said in the forum. None of the girls is a beauty, and the skills are very variable. Some become naked, some not; some allow some access to their private areas and some don?t.The privacy of the whole thing is precarious. I also have some concerns regarding the hygiene. A monger mentioned that he took a towel to avoid direct contact with the bench or the shop towel. A good idea, I add.Sugamo pink salons tolerance for foreigners depends on each of them. Only the first one on the right consistently allowed me in. The rest have rejected me at one time or another.I have no experience in Supergirls in Shimbashi.2. Esute.A lot of scams and bad experiences in this area. At the end I narrow my options to two. Yuri in Nippori and YouYou in Sugamo. In both cases, the price is 8500 yen per session (Yuri has the discount time before 6:00 PM), and only one pop is allowed.I grew to trust the tout welcoming you at the door without asking to see the pictures ?no real in the case of YouYou? or the girls. All in all, my experiences are correct with some ups and downs. I did not feel ripped off. The staff changes very often. Always Chinese.In these establishments, the routine is always the same. Shower, a light massage, and intercourse. The girl, too often, does not take much action and lets the customer to move with some fake moans or with some demands to finish soon.Both places admit foreigners. In Yuri, the tout speaks some English. Not the case in YouYou.3. Soaplands.I am only speaking about New York New York and Champs Elys?e in Ueno. Particularly, about the latest.I might have been lucky in my visits, but this is the place to go if you want to feel pampered. There is no FS in there, but the provider does work for her money in washing you and making sure you have a happy ending. Some mongers have complained that the satisfaction relies heavily on the provider. I only had one miss ?my first and only time at NYNY. My experiences at Champs have been consistently good: nice washing, good BBBJ, nice anal rimming, blow job to end.Both places admit foreigners. They always ask if that is the first time you go there for the sole purpose to make you understand the rules: no intercourse.4. Street walkers in Shin Okubo area.I have tried them twice. The price is negotiable and ranges between 10000 and 20000 yen plus hotel. One of them was Colombian ?terrible experience--, and the other Japanese.Most of the providers in there are Thais. Assorted looks and ages. On Sundays, the providers can be different and you can find some Japanese middle age women.What strikes me most is that the independent street walkers charge more than the providers in esutes, where the running costs of the business are actually higher and the providers receive less money. This must be the Japanese way of understanding capitalism.My conclusion after some years of mongering in Japan is that in general you have to fight for what they promised you before paying, the exception being the Japanese providers. In the esutes, providers and touts try to reduce the service time and rush you to finish. I never felt rushed in Champs, and the 50 min of the basic fee (9200 yen) is what you get.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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01-29-08 01:21 #4428
Posts: 65CB Lime
On the Club Boo schedule I see Lime is on for tonight. That's unusual. I've used CB for about 3 years, and have only seen her on the schedule once or twice maybe, and those were within the past 6 months or so. I tried to arrange an appointment with her a couple of times last year, but she wasn't available. I'm not in Tokyo right now, otherwise I'd give her a go, and a review. She's gorgeous in the photos, but at "Platinum" prices, she should be. If anyone gets together with her tonight, please give her a review. I've never read a review on her before.
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01-29-08 01:15 #4427
Posts: 65AM Mako
Originally Posted by Kurosawa00
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01-28-08 19:11 #4426
Posts: 81The problem is that you put 4,000 down at the entrance, so he knew you hadn't been before and didn't know the system. You're supposed to pay 2,000 at the door, and then 2,000 to the girl who comes to your booth later if you want extra service.
Originally Posted by Gamma Ray 007
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01-28-08 12:50 #4425
Posts: 35Ikebukuro Mikado
I am not sure what exactly happens for the money, since I never tried it myself. I just asked once at the front about it in Japanese and had the impression I might get access there. At the time I was visiting that place rather often just to look at the show and buy some polaroid pictures.You don't get to choose the girl. Only one of the girls will do that job. She will be in the business for a long time and very experienced. The younger girls will never set a foot in that separate room.It might be difficult to get access to the separate room if you don't speak Japanese. On the other hand, it should be no problem just to go watch the show.Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by Dreams