Bangkok Reports

[Borat69]

AT2 - just a quick thanks for your super informative posts. I've now left BKK after an interesting newbie week. Here's the report from the last couple of days:

The clubs I was referring to at Patpong were the Kings 1-3 and King's Castle clubs. However there seem to be a few ladyboys in Kings 3. The rest there were definitely more jgirl types, and I still regret not pushing for the half mixed thai/french girl I saw a while back (when I initally posted here0. She was really a stunner but had a bit of attitude - wanted to hit a room within 2 minutes after I bought a drink and when I said I'd like to get to know her more she just walked off.. lol. Her loss I guess and don't think it would have panned out well with that bitchy attitude!

The penultimate of our adventures yesterday accumulated in a somewhat interesting taxi ride, all around town. The taxi driver was prob trying to mak a comission but we've smartened up and kind of had destinations in mind (thanks to you and Mick's guides here).

Saw Soi 33 which I agree, did have better lookers, compared to Soi 22 and elsewhere anyway. We didn't stay though, based on the cost advice here, and another trip to Cupidy, the girls this time seemed very average. Apparently on level 2 you can get some VIP girls if you have money to blow, but I think one is looking at 5000b upwards,but apparently they are true stunners. However I just wasn't intending to pay that much anyway. Some day

In the end, we ended up back at Nana. Most girls were pretty average in the bars, but we saw a couple of pretty nice looking girls standing at the entrance. But a couple were ladyboys! It's scary how they could look so good, until you talk to them and they answer in a fake woman voice. Man, that's scary stuff. Anyway in the end we ended up with a white skinned Thai for 1800b, which my mate and I both negotiated down to 1500. I opted for 2 pops for 2500. First pop was pretty amazing, in the sack she was pretty hot, but a bit fake. But then strange thoughts (questioning whether this is really a woman!) popped into my head in the 2nd round and I just lost it... in the end I felt I overpaid, after she asked for a tip of 500.

And yes, I started having doubts as to whether she was truly a lady. God, this is the problem I have with Thailand. Most of the tall skinny pretty pale girls seem to end up as pre-op ladyboys, but this one had no adam's apple (no visible surgical scar either), and had a pussy that didn't particularly look fake. And I've had a couple of stunning girls, one at Soi Cowboy, and this one at Nana, they all had tits and pussy but could they be post op??? She was pretty tall, long fingers, and slightly broad...and she was just so nice and accomodating, it really makes me wonder if a girl this stunning really is not a post surgical specimen! She denied it when we intiially ask, and our friends told us that they aren't there to trick us... but she was standing at the entrance to Nana where there were certainly a few ladyboys (but blatant ones - deep voice, probably pre-op).

Anyway I shall not dwell on this. In the end we did say there's a small chance but it's small. It certainly fucked with our heads! And on the next trip (given that I didn't catch any STDS on this trip!) I may just head straight for Phuket and Pattaya.

[Bounce Around]

(sorry for the repost from other thread)

Hello All, I shall be in BKK from 19th to 22nd; then to good 'ol China and the mongering scene there. I'm looking forward to this trip, heard a lot, and am starting my RTFF now. Don't know where I'll be staying yet, but will post

I realize the mongering scenes are different, but anyone who has experience with Shenzhen/CP etc scene and also BKK scene can you give me a comparison? My feelings are mongering is more out in the open in BKK, and price is about the same. In SZ one can get LT for +/-500RMB which is about 2100THB

One thing I am looking forward to is the sauna scene, I figure this is better here and consequently pricey, the most expensive sauna I have been to in China is 600-700RMB; and expensive room service in China for about 1100RMB which would be 4800THB

So, I guess I could go for at least one 'A lister at a soapy. Would it be worth it?

I really am looking forward to the change in ethinicity though; Looking forward to getting out some frustrations from way back in college, where I was friends with this 'good' thai girl. She was the tightest, smallest, hottest asian I have ever seen.

[Thaid Up]

richo they can be had very easy. now oth is right about the places on rachada, but it is very hard for anybody to pickup girls there. thai’s usually travel in packs and infiltrating these packs is quite difficult even for thai’s.

the wolves need to get the lambs away from the packs. the source is the mp’s lined up on rachada. most of the sideliners there are attending universities. the job and the schedule are well suited to the uni girl plus she does not have to drink. they usually start about 7:30pm and it is 3 pops and they are out usually by 11:00 or 12:00 pm. so they can still go to bed and get up for school.

i doubt if there are any bar girls who can maintain their work and drinking schedule and go to a legit university.

now why would uni girls work as sideliners in mp’s? well many have the reason of peer pressure. there are a number of very rich hi-so girls attending university. while middle-class mom and pop may afford the tuition for their daughters to attend university, they cannot give her a budget to show-off the nice shoes and handbags to be part of the in-crowd. so you have the true fashion *****s. this concept is popular with japanese girls in japan as well.

these girls are a completely different breed than the normal bg’s in nep, soi cowboy, soi33. most the most part they are not looking for a relationship or way out of their life as most of them have a regular thai boyfriend back in the uni. usually someone acceptable to mom and pop meanwhile the boyfriend has a case of blue balls why she plays the façade of “good girl” meanwhile back in the mp she is bang the hell out of customers for some shopping money. so she is not making a living out of p4p, but get her shopping money there.

if you are looking for a relationship with a uni girl…

1. you need to live here.
2. you need to spend the time.

it is sort of like the episode on seinfeld where george gets into the secret model club. once you get one uni girl and word gets around that you are an ok farang you will be will have access to a lot more. the uni girls are quite competitive and love to fuck their friend’s boyfriends.

[PinkPearl]

PinkPearl,

Everyone has different views of what constitutes a stunner. Been to BKK often enough over 20 years, to know what's on the streets in BKK. That's just my opinion and I'm sorry if my personal view offends you. Please read Borat's posts, to which I was answering. He visited Soi Cowboy and Nana and nothing piqued his interest. Read between the lines and ask yourself if he is going to find what he is looking for in the 1, 000 baht range. I can find girls I like at Nana and Soi Cowboy. They do not need to be stunners, for me to have fun or to get my attention. Attractive will do.

No offense at all, just wondering. I'd agree that there are different views of who is a stunning lady. And depending on how much of the male drug I have in my system, any female might look like either an angel or a dog. Apparently alcohol and other drugs can have a similar effect. As for Borat's inability to find a lady at NEP or Cowboy, I don't know what to say. Maybe try Moscow? Or Kazakhstan?

I'm sorry, but the girl who is willing to settle for 1, 000 baht is either very very very new or not in high demand.

Well I know a hot lady who goes for that price per hour and provides good service and attitude. She is hard to get a hold of by cell. I'd assume by her looks that she'd get picked up off the street very quickly, and when I'm out cruising on foot she is seldom to be seen. Apparently she's been selling her pussy in BKK for several years. Out of 35-45 P4P ladies I've sampled in BKK she is probably the best value as well as being number one overall. Maybe she's one in a million. But I believe there are others I've met who, though not up to her level, still meet your criteria {of 1000 Baht, not very new, in high demand}.

There are 10's of thousands of girls you can find for 1, 000 baht or less even now. I have seen enough of them and very few pique my interest. There's always exceptions, but I would not call anyone of them stunning. Just one guys point of view. I'm sure you have your reasons for feeling otherwise.

I'd have to say that most TGs asking 1000 Baht do not particularly turn me on either.

Is the pic below, the Dada you speak of? If you can get girls like her for 1, 000 baht or less in BKK now, you are a better man than I. I have never seen it done in my presence. Sorry, I'm a show me kind of guy, so stories don't count for me. If you have done it, what I think should not matter to you.

I don't think that is the Dada of the TG 2007 Maxim DVD. She has red hair and a different looking face. But I am confident 1000 Baht ladies of her calibre are available all over the streets of BKK, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Afterall we are apparently both familiar with what's on the streets of BKK, you having visited "often enough over 20 years", and I having lived across the street from NEP for 7 of the past 8 months with nothing to do but shag girls 24/7.

If the 2nd pic is the Nampeung you are talking about, then no, I do not consider her a stunner. Attractive, but not stunning, and you can find as good or possibly better in any of the Major Soapy's, Nana or Soi Cowboy and definitely at the Pent. Of course, it could be a bad pic and the Dada pic could be a great pic. But just based on the pics alone and not having seen them in person, I would give Dada a 9 and Nampeung a 7. I see a large gap in looks between the two.

I think that is her, though her face looks much better on the DVD cover. Re your pics I'd give your Dada a 7, perhaps, because she has a face that I find quite attracive, and Nampeung a 6.5 for a smoking body. Though on the DVD jacket the latter gets at least a 7.5.

But really, in the end, I was just answering Borat's question based on his comments and my personal view. Just 1 opinion out of a billion. Only trying to help the guy.

Hopefully this discussion will help someone too. Thanks for the reply.

[M P Lurker]

PinkPearl,

Everyone has different views of what constitutes a stunner. Been to BKK often enough over 20 years, to know what's on the streets in BKK. That's just my opinion and I'm sorry if my personal view offends you. <cut>

Is the pic below, the Dada you speak of? If you can get girls like her for 1,000 baht or less in BKK now, you are a better man than I. I have never seen it done in my presence. Sorry, I'm a show me kind of guy, so stories don't count for me. If you have done it, what I think should not matter to you.

If the 2nd pic is the Nampeung you are talking about, then no, I do not consider her a stunner. Attractive, but not stunning, and you can find as good or possibly better in any of the Major Soapy's, Nana or Soi Cowboy and definitely at the Pent. Of course, it could be a bad pic and the Dada pic could be a great pic. But just based on the pics alone and not having seen them in person, I would give Dada a 9 and Nampeung a 7. I see a large gap in looks between the two.

But really, in the end, I was just answering Borat's question based on his comments and my personal view. Just 1 opinion out of a billion. Only trying to help the guy.

AT2

I'm shocked. I have the same preference.
I would give Dada 9 (although pic is a bit small) and NamPheung 7 also.
I agree also that there definitely aren't any 1K girls of Dada quality in my experience.

I thought Asian guys and Farangs went for something completely different.

[FreebieFan]

Well I'm normally more active in some other Asian country forums but had to post here after my recent activities.

As my name suggests, I inhabit the free world as opposed to the P4P world. Been to Bangkok many many many times and in every bar I've been able to find, and soapies too. I just prefer the notion of the chase and pretending that what I've found is possibly free.

Normal MO is to hunt them down on internet. And thanks to a new site, found a few. Or maybe they found me. I'm 50 but look ok. Thankfully.

Anyways. Did the chat. Sms. Even mms. Webcam thing and narrowed it down to a few.

There was a 38 yr old who was divorced a few years back. And has decided she needs to fly a bit before shes 40. States hed never had a farang.

There was a cute cute 23 year old. But wasnt sure she would show.

There was a very cute (webcam! ) 35 year old who was taking a bus trip to meet me and spend a day with me.

And another 23 year old who had no pics. (always a warning sign to me.) who was allocated a short time slot.

So heres what happened.

Arrived. Checked in. Got a suite in hotel near Ploenchit BTS. Best location for me. Quiet but close to activities.

Met the first one. In afternoon. Chatty friendly smart lady. Straight to hotel. Chat chat. Drink a bit. She wanted to offer me a massage. So starts with my clothes on. Then slowly they come off. Eventually kiss and head to bedroom. One hour of good sex. Shower. And she understands its time to go.

The 23 year old was supposed to be arriving about 30 minutes after lI had left first one. But she told me shes still at home. Bad start. Sms and calls over next hour and I'm not sure shes on her way. Tells me she is. But over an hour late. Well I went to Beer Garden thinking about Plan be just in case. Anyways she arrives at Ploenchit BTS. Kiss on mouth to greet me. Shes bright and funny and a real nice girl. We go to Suan Lum for drinks and food and get to know you. Taxi to hotel. Up to room. She rejects my first move on her. To go sit on another sofa. But manages to place her breasts in a low t shirt inches from me. No more rejection. , she told me shed done ti so she could tell herself she said no. We end up having sex for about 2 hours till 2 am. Wake up and 5. 30 am. And another hour of hot activity.

She everntually leaves to go to work and I get some much needed sleep. So first day was a double. Good start.

Well I had no major plans for day 2 but decide to go to an oil massage thats near my hotel. Cute masseuse. Ms Miou always happy to see me. Always lets me kiss her finger her and sometimes more. And more. Normal massage from her with great oily ball massage. Eventually kiss kiss. Bra off. And shes laying on the bed saying "No sek. No sek ok sek "funny moment. Lovely sweet lady. She gets her Bt 600 tip. Used to be 800 but dollars sinking.

And then. Shower and off to meet the 23 year old who hadnt sent pics. If she was ugly would blow her off. And having just come again. Wasnt feeling horny anyways. Met at Ploenchit. (repeating theme here) and she was cute. Not a classic beauty and not 40 kg but maybe 50. And a happy kid. We had coffee and get to know and as it was raining I said lets go watch tv in my room. She was ok with that. Sat. And of course got closer closer. Had a 15 minute kiss. But I wasnt feeling soo horny. So we stopped. Then again. Finally she asks. You want sek. I said lets wait.

Lets wait. Yeah. I knew I was seeing the other 23 year old in about 2 hours. And knew she would want sex on arrival. Hmm like I say I'm over 50 and my dick isn't always responsive to mutiple demands for instant erection.

Anyways one kiss led to another and another and eventually to the bed we go. She was shy in kissing lips. But not shy about kissing my dick. She was cute. After sex she showered got dressed and seemed to know there was only one round on offer. She left. And neither the 38 yr old nor the 23 year old had asked for anything. And both followed with sms after they had left asking for a repeat.

And I headed to Ploenchit for last nights gurl. She wanted to go to hotel but instead we went to Patpong market then to Central Dept store. She then tells me that shes taken the folowing day off so she can stay with me all day. Damn. I was supposed to see the 35 year old who took a bus trip to see me. But I figured this one was extra cute. She kept grabbing my dick in the taxi etc. So the 35 year old, well I guess she would be dissapointed but what to do.

She wanted a bikini (yeah I know. Nothing is really free). So there she is selecting a bikini. And wants to try it on. She asked the sales assistant if I can go with her. She says yes. So she strips down. Naked. Gives me a three minute blow. In a changing room. So interesting.

After that. This gurl wants to try some cocktails. Doesnt normally drink. So she had a few. In a few Patpong bars. Then we head to soi 7. Was goin to show her Biergarden. But we end up on Absolute bar. A few more cocktails and shes dread drunk. I wasnt unhappy. I wasnt sure my dick would respond anyways. Get home. And gurl is out of it. Drops her clothes on floor. Gets into bed. Up a few times to throw up. Lovely.

In the morning tho she makes up for it with a 15 minute blow before Id even said good morning. We then went to the pool with the new bikini, paragon store, and eventually headed to Soi Cowboy. She seemed to like watching the gurls. Onto Nana and eventually home. By this time shes happy but not drunk. Id bought her one of these super tacky nighties in Sukhimvit. Sheer, tiniest g string panties. And very sexy. She looked great. She opened all the curtains so anyone could see us. And we went to town. Last I remember she was perched on a chair with ass in air. Waiting for mine. She let me video her entirely. And was so happy just walking round naked. And had a good hot figure too. I got extra lucky.

In the morning said our tearful goodbyes and I left Thailand.

So. Id had 4 in space of 28 hours of arrival. One was paid for. The other 3 were free. Sort of. Tough schedule and probaby not enought free time for work, but if its a choice between work or pussy. Well we all know that one.

Great time. And can't wait to get back. Again.

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[Old Thai Hand]

Hey OTH,

Go to Vegas or Atlantic City during summer breaks and you can get quite a few Uni girls. No kidding.

And you must be a handsome man looking like Bloom.

I am in BKK and staying at LL. Why don't you come on down this evening and I will buy the drinks.

Duni

I agree with you. I wasn't really thinking about Spring Break, but some guy hanging around a university town trying to pick up students. In any event, one would have to be young and handsome anywhere to score with most uni students. The luck I've had, such as it is has largely been because I occasionally find that one atypical student who I've gotten close to and over a long time have eventually gotten involved with, somehow. It's not something one can do quickly. I'm around hundreds of uni girls every day and particularly now, it would be unlikely that I could score with any of them unless I put in a lot of effort, which I'm not really into doing anymore. What would be the point? It's not worth the effort or the residual effects. I used to do it because it was fun, the girls were generally much hotter than the average TG (or is it simply the uniform?), I had the time to do it and I liked the success, when it came. But, now, I don't care. I've got a GF and a Gig, both of whom are currently students. I have nothing to prove to myself, anymore.

There are plenty of TGs around - office girls, shopgirls, waitresses - who while not in the same league, status-wise as students are still often hot looking and may be far more accessible to the average Farang.

[Wandere]

Must say very nice anaylisis put up nicely.

Cheers!

Daddy San,

I'm assuming you are going to BKK for the 1st time and hence the question. If I'm wrong, my appologies. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, RCA clubs, Soi 33, Pegasus, The Pent, Ratchadapisek Soapy Massage Parlors, Beer Garden, Club Forte, Thonglor, Eden are all very different experiences. Different types of girls, different types of customers, and different pricing structures. Basic supply and demand rules apply, like anywhere else in the world. Each venue and girl charges what they can. In general, you get what you pay for, and I mean the total package of services and not just the girl.

You just need to visit each, to get a feel for what you want. I would not rule out escorts, but that should be the last resort or only as an option if you require discretion and cannot be seen at the other venues. You are paying a premium for convenience and discretion.

The Go-Go's (Nana & Soi Cowboy) have average to attractive girls and occassionally stunners. You pay the barfine and negotiate with the girl. Mostly Issan girls and some fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls (mostly in the Rainbow bars). Rates 1,500 ST and 2,500 LT, with many variations in between, depending on how busy things are and of course the girls looks. Again, supply and demand.

With Escorts, you are paying for the agency fee. It's much higher than a barfine. My guess is half of the fee goes to the agency. That makes it a pricey option, so you really better like the convenience of picking up a phone or the discretion it provides. Most rates are 3,000 to 6,000 baht for ST. Pricey if you ask me.

With the Soapy's, you are going to see primarily the fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls. They do command a premium in BKK. Just the way it is. How you feel about them in terms of looks, vs. the Issan girls is purely taste. Some people like seafood, others like steak and some like Chicken. Why are they priced differently? Supply and demand. The Soapy massage parlors have a higher overhead, so you are paying for that too. It's a hotel basically, with large tubs for a nice wash by the girl, dining, and a large selection of girls for browsing. If you don't care to be washed, don't care about facilities, don't care about the fishbowl concept, then it's not for you. Rates range from 1,500 baht to 5,500 baht, depending on the Soapy and the girl.

The bottom line, is you need to see and experience these for yourself and then determine if it's for you and is worth the asking prices. Just keep in mind, a girl or a place will not ask for 3,000 baht or more, unless they can.

When you say the escort route seems preferable to you, are you talking from actual experience IN BKK? Other places don't count, since it's really not the same situation. Have you actually been to a Soapy or to a Go-Go or to a Gentlemen's club like the Pent? Just asking, since I don't know where you are coming from.

For me, I like them all, and for different reasons. They all have pros and cons and it's like having Seafood one night, Steak another and Pasta on another. I have had great meals for $5 and $100, and don't regret any of them or what I paid for them.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

What are you calling a stunner? Ladies like Dada and Nampeung on the
Thailand 2007 Maxim DVD? Or Gay from Pattaya as seen in the magazine
After Dark? I find 1000 Baht girls like this eveyday on the streets of BKK.

PinkPearl,

Everyone has different views of what constitutes a stunner. Been to BKK often enough over 20 years, to know what's on the streets in BKK. That's just my opinion and I'm sorry if my personal view offends you. Please read Borat's posts, to which I was answering. He visited Soi Cowboy and Nana and nothing piqued his interest. Read between the lines and ask yourself if he is going to find what he is looking for in the 1,000 baht range. I can find girls I like at Nana and Soi Cowboy. They do not need to be stunners, for me to have fun or to get my attention. Attractive will do.

I'm sorry, but the girl who is willing to settle for 1,000 baht is either very very very new or not in high demand. There are 10's of thousands of girls you can find for 1,000 baht or less even now. I have seen enough of them and very few pique my interest. There's always exceptions, but I would not call anyone of them stunning. Just one guys point of view. I'm sure you have your reasons for feeling otherwise. Unless we are in BKK at the same time, we will never know why the other feels the way they do. To compare notes face to face, so to speak.

Is the pic below, the Dada you speak of? If you can get girls like her for 1,000 baht or less in BKK now, you are a better man than I. I have never seen it done in my presence. Sorry, I'm a show me kind of guy, so stories don't count for me. If you have done it, what I think should not matter to you.

If the 2nd pic is the Nampeung you are talking about, then no, I do not consider her a stunner. Attractive, but not stunning, and you can find as good or possibly better in any of the Major Soapy's, Nana or Soi Cowboy and definitely at the Pent. Of course, it could be a bad pic and the Dada pic could be a great pic. But just based on the pics alone and not having seen them in person, I would give Dada a 9 and Nampeung a 7. I see a large gap in looks between the two.

But really, in the end, I was just answering Borat's question based on his comments and my personal view. Just 1 opinion out of a billion. Only trying to help the guy.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

I am confused about the prices quoted here and in other posts.

I am also aware of escorts (outcall) advertising on ***tonite (may the boss forgive me this one time!) for 2000/4000 THB for ST/LT. Ok, they may not be the youngest, but look great and have favorable reviews.

Is there a catch and if so, what have I missed?

I realise that MPs provide a different experience and to each his own and all that, but as far as value for money, services clearly and unambiguously offered and possible GFE goes, the escort route seems preferable to me.

Can a knowledgeable monger pls comment?

Daddy San,

I'm assuming you are going to BKK for the 1st time and hence the question. If I'm wrong, my appologies. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, RCA clubs, Soi 33, Pegasus, The Pent, Ratchadapisek Soapy Massage Parlors, Beer Garden, Club Forte, Thonglor, Eden are all very different experiences. Different types of girls, different types of customers, and different pricing structures. Basic supply and demand rules apply, like anywhere else in the world and of course cost factors. Each venue and girl charges what they can. In general, you get what you pay for, and I mean the total package of services and not just the girl.

You just need to visit each, to get a feel for what you want. I would not rule out escorts, but that should be the last resort or only as an option if you require discretion and cannot be seen at the other venues. You are paying a big premium for convenience and discretion. Soi 33 is also expensive. You are paying for a better bar (Compare a Soi 33 bar and a Nana Plaza Bar). Let's face it. Nana has many many girls, but it's a shit hole. You are also paying for a nice quiet ambiance in Soi 33. You won't be sitting next to 20 other knuckle draggers. You may see one or two other customers at most. That can mean alot to some and may be worth the higher price and for others, who cares.

The Go-Go's (Nana & Soi Cowboy) have average to attractive girls and occassionally a stunner. You pay the barfine and negotiate with the girl. Mostly Issan girls and some fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls (mostly in the Rainbow bars). Rates 1,500 ST and 2,000 to 2,500 baht LT, with many variations in between, depending on how busy things are, the girls looks, your looks and your negotiating skills. Again, supply and demand.

With Escorts, you are paying for the agency fee. It's much higher than a barfine. My guess is at least half and more likely two thirds of the fee goes to the agency. That makes it a pricey option, so you really better like the convenience of picking up a phone or the discretion it provides. Most rates are 3,000 to 6,000 baht for ST. Pricey if you ask me. Beware the bait and switch too. If you find an Escort for 2,000 baht, you will probably be sorely disappointed when she arrives, unless she is a freelancer not connected with an agency. For 2,000 baht, you can get an attractive girl in Nana, Soi Cowboy or any other place and probably can get one for 1,500 baht. You also get to meet the girl face to face and get a gauge on her personality at a Go-Go. With an Escort service, the girl's pic may not look anything like her when she shows up and she could be completely incompatible personality wise. Of course, some may enjoy the unknown, and that would be a plus for them.

With the Soapy's, you are going to see primarily the fair skinned Thai/Chinese girls. They do command a premium in BKK. Just the way it is. How you feel about them in terms of looks, vs. the Issan girls is purely taste. Some people like seafood, others like steak and some like Chicken. Why are they priced differently? Supply and demand and cost factors. The Soapy massage parlors have a higher overhead, so you are paying for that too. It's a hotel basically, with large tubs for a nice wash by the girl, dining, and a large selection of girls for browsing. If you don't care to be washed, don't care about facilities, don't care about the fishbowl concept, then it's not for you. Rates range from 1,500 baht to 5,500 baht, depending on the Soapy and the girl.

The bottom line, is you need to see and experience these for yourself and then determine if it's for you and is worth the asking prices. Just keep in mind, a girl or a place will not ask for 3,000 baht or more, unless they can. You can bargain down, so asking price is not the same as getting price. Think cars.

When you say the escort route seems preferable to you, are you talking from actual experience IN BKK? Other places don't count, since it's really not the same situation. Have you actually been to a Soapy or to a Go-Go or to a Gentlemen's club like the Pent? Just asking, since I don't know where you are coming from.

For me, I like them all, and for different reasons. They all have pros and cons and it's like having Seafood one night, Steak another and Pasta on another. I have had great meals for $5 and $100, and don't regret any of them or what I paid for them.

AT2

[VisitUSA]

Got 3 days left, and feel like I'm running out already! The Soi Cowboy girls are definitely not up my alley, we went twice now. Think Nana will pretty much be the same. We've stuck to the rows of massage places on Soi 22 but teh girls there are mostly 5-7 with the occasional 8. I have to say that I'm tempted to go back to that hot club in Patpong with all the hotties wanting $3k +BF , and negotiate it for longer.

I am loving this place tho... wow.

Can you tell me please of all the Lord Group places - where is the highest ratio of tall, leggy white skin (jap look, mixed look) models that can be had for $2k under ? I am tempted by Long Beach and Copa Cabana. Yummy. I like gold star.

I was in Patpong last night and did not see ANY hot club. Do you remember the name of that club ? Is it on Patpong 1 or Patpong 2?

Thanks in advance for your help to find higher quality from what I am seeing now in BKK.

[Duniawala]

I always find this question amusing. One likely couldn't pick up "genuine" uni girls in the States that easily. So, why would anyone think they could here?
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Unless you look like Orlando Bloom or Leonardo di Caprio, I'd say your chances are nil.

Hey OTH,

Go to Vegas or Atlantic City during summer breaks and you can get quite a few Uni girls. No kidding.

And you must be a handsome man looking like Bloom.

I am in BKK and staying at LL. Why don't you come on down this evening and I will buy the drinks.

Duni

[Old Thai Hand]

Have been told that foreign soldiers in Udon Thani made many mixed breed TG beauties. So that might be another place to find these women.

A little out of date PP. Any Luk-kreung who had a daddy in the military in Udon would be well on in her 30s at least, by now.

Most young luk-kreung one sees around these days are the products of mis-alliances between love-struck sex tourists and their rent-a-skank/wife.

As Thailand becomes (very, very slowly) more global and more accepting of outsiders, you'll see in about 20 years or so lots of luk-kreung from more normal Farang-Thai relationships.

[Old Thai Hand]

Okay, where could I get a genuine Uni girl which doesnt make a living out of p4p? Standing outside the uni won't do any good I assume, so what do you guys recommend? Any websites or webboards that could do the trick, or anyone have some connections as to where to find them (maybe a current GF at uni e. G? )?

I always find this question amusing. One likely couldn't pick up "genuine" uni girls in the States that easily. So, why would anyone think they could here?

One does occasionally sees a few Farang lurking around university campuses here and I've actually been approached a couple of times by them asking "how to talk to the girls" - I suppose they assume I'm one of them. This type of thing seems to be increasing lately. But, I wouldn't recommend it. Apart from the fact that campus security would probably go after you, it would be a pointless excercise at most unis. One of the few universities where students might be game, if you approached them is Ramkhamhaeng. But, you'd have to speak Thai and you'd have to NOT look like the typical geezer one sees trolling aroung the Nana area. Still, the more likely reaction would be nervous giggles followed by a hasty retreat. Average Thai girls are generally scared of Farang.

There are no webboards for students, unless you can write in Thai and even if you could, as a Farang, you'd be shut out quite quickly. It's very difficult to pick up a uni girl, at the best of times, especially if you are visiting, unless you are quite young and good looking. The best place to meet quality uni girls is in the Thai clubs around Ratchada soi 4-8 and the clubs in the Thonglor/Ekamai area. RCA might have some. But, it tends to only attract teenagers these days.

There are also lots of students of every description hanging around Siam Square. But, again I wouldn't recommend approaching them as they'd likely rebuff you and run away.

Unless you look like Orlando Bloom or Leonardo di Caprio, I'd say your chances are nil.

[Pwap007]

First time in Bangkok, what is a guy to do?

The more research undertaken, in this forum and others, the more confused I became. In the end I went with what seems to be a few longstanding benchmarks of what Bangkok has to offer:

Hey Deuce! Nice report from an un-jaded newbie! I gotta check out Annies, sounds like you had a ball. I mean nice piece of ass.