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  1. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Sunshine
    I dropped in during the end of December and early January. I'd never been to a soapie before. Having read a couple of positive reviews that described Sao Botan as a throwback type of experience, I thought it'd be a good venue to get my feet wet. As mentioned previously, it's about a 15 minute walk from BTS National Stadium. http://soapy-massage.com/s-botan-pp-..._House_BangkokNOTE: the 1000 baht fee is for one hour of service.<cut>
    Nice report. I was meaning to check out this place in a few weeks.Do they have 1.5 Hours as well?1Hr would never be enough for me at Thai pace.

  2. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by Derim
    Also, please keep in mind Thai wages. How you can feel sorry for the girl which makes a more than a 3-4 daily minum wage in just two hours (600-800B)? If the girl gets 800B per customer with tips, has 1. 5 customers per day and works 25 days per week, then she would make 800*1. 5*25 = 30000B per month. That's more than 6 TIMES minimum wage and a more than an young worker with a master's degree from a good university would earn. And all this with just 3 hours of work per day (1. 5 customers * 2 hours/customer) instead of 8-9 hours per day for a normal job.
    Mate,Are you sure about the "30000B per month. That's more than 6 TIMES minimum wage and a more than an young worker with a master's degree from a good university would earn."?

  3. #273

    Sao Botan

    Quote Originally Posted by S M B
    I read recently somewhere else that S. Botan was good value for money. It was an old report that I read though. Anyone been recently?
    I dropped in during the end of December and early January. I'd never been to a soapie before. Having read a couple of positive reviews that described Sao Botan as a throwback type of experience, I thought it'd be a good venue to get my feet wet. As mentioned previously, it's about a 15 minute walk from BTS National Stadium. http://soapy-massage.com/s-botan-pp-..._House_BangkokNOTE: the 1000 baht fee is for one hour of service.The place has a relaxed, straightforward atmosphere. The attendants on the lobby floor, receptionists and room maids were all friendly enough. Customers are predominantly local, so the floor staff speak little English, if at all. If you have Thai language skills, all the better of course. Business opens at 2 PM on week days and I was there about an hour or two later. The lobby is dark and largely empty; the fish bowl, naturally, is well lit. Several booths give you the option to sit down and order a drink before you go upstairs. But they're located along the wall opposite the fish bowl - a little too far away to get a good look at the girls, let alone read their number tags. So you really need to stand in the middle of the lobby area to make your choice. The floor attendants carry a notepad and pen for you to jot down a number if you can't speak Thai.My first visit was towards 4 PM. About 18 to 20 girls sat in the fish bowl. Business was brisk. I hung back for a while and observed who was being selected. The preferences leaned towards girls with ample breasts and/or fair skin (actually I didn't see too many with darker complexions). Age range was probably 22 to 32. You're not going to find an 18 year old fashion model at this place. But when the fish bowl was well stocked, maybe 4 or 5 babes were definitely my type (cute, narrow face, slim figure, tight ass, flat tummy). All this ogling meant that by the time I started looking in earnest, the fish bowl was down to six girls. I had almost decided to come back another day when I caught sight of a fine figure in a blue dress hanging out at the front desk. I quickly asked a floor attendant to snag her. An older girl, she had a good vibe. I paid the bill, she grabbed her bath kit and up the elevator we went. The room was small, spartan but clean. Her English was excellent. I found out she was a single mom with two daughters. The session was typically an order for drinks, some chit chat, a shared bath (including a fabulous tit fuck with her C cups), a shower and then to bed. This girl at first resisted DATY but eventually got into it for a good spell (later admitting that she avoided climaxing with johns because it made the rest of the day more tiring). Her BBBJ was terrific but all too soon she deftly rolled on the condom with her mouth. So we proceeded to the FS portion. Unfortunately my stamina took a nose dive (maybe I was bagged from jet lag). Because of this, she adamantly refused a tip but relented when I insisted that I still enjoyed her services. She washed me down afterwards to end the session. All in all, I had a warm, competent provider who told me "I want men to enjoy time with me." About a week later, I spotted my next girl also at the front desk. She too was a single mom and spoke English well. She really pampered me in the bath tub and provided GFE in bed. She loved DATY and gave me a fine BBBJ. One review mentioned that from the 1000 baht fee, the parlor keeps 280 (the cashier will take your 1000 and give your girl the balance on the spot). Towards the end of the hour, your girl will get a reminder call to vacate the room. If she goes overtime, front desk docks her another 280 baht. Anyway, our session lasted about 90 minutes but for some reason she wasn't charged extra (which surprised her as well). She also didn't ask me to compensate her for going past an hour but I left a tip. Looking back, I should've given her another 500 as well as the tip.But we did exchange numbers and I called to make sure she was on shift a couple days later. As usual, she first drew a bath, and while the tub was being filled, we made small talk. But then things went off track. She became distraught, started crying and apologized for it. She said she was upset that I hadn't called her the day before but it was probably more about the challenges of being a single parent. Anyway, I didn't have the heart to bail and grab myself another girl. Instead I ended up comforting her in my arms for most of the session (yes, compassion can handicap anyone looking to get the most bang for the money). I think she appreciated the gesture, responding between sobs with kisses. But sex wasn't in the cards that day. Oh well. At least it was nice to know more about the person behind the provider. At one point I asked her why she wasn't working at a more upscale MP. She certainly was pretty enough. She told me that Sao Botan has about 50 girls on staff but the larger, more expensive joints may have around 200 younger girls in the talent pool from which to fill any particular shift. Essentially she said it's tough for girls her age to get into these high end places (she herself being 27). Anyhow, a real sweetie, this girl. Before I left town, she invited me to visit a nearby wat and offered to come to my hotel room after her shifts ended (just to hang out). But timing and circumstances were never right. Hopefully I can make it up to her if I see her again.Value-wise, I'd give Sao Botan a thumbs up even though two sessions were a bust insofar as a good shag was concerned. I got lucky in my choices. Both girls spoke English which helped to break the ice. Plus both were very customer-oriented. That said, I didn't get the impression that anything "exotic" (e.g. anal, CIM) was on the menu. Still, for a 1000 baht, you won't lose much if such requests are denied since I have a hunch the girls at Sao Botan largely offer a satisfying experience with their standard services. Other mongers will have to verify this.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

  4. #272

    Bangkok Soapy Guide V2 - Word format

    Finally I have got round to providing the Bangkok Soapy Guide V2 in word format.Had to be zipped as too large.Realtes to posts starting here

  5. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Derim
    <cut>Someone asked about the normal procedure and number of shots in soapies. I think in most 2000B places 2 shots are included with all normal girls. You can check this of course with a papasan, but basically if the place advertises 2 hour massage, then 2 shots are included in the base price. Cheaper, 1000B places usually have a 1h massage with a single shot. And it seems from these reports that 2 shots are not always the norm with sideliners or in more expensive places (Poseidon etc.).Usually, a soapy massage just includes a bath and sex. If the girl likes you and has massage skills, she may offer some massage between rounds, but it isn't a norm.
    Are you a Thai or Asian, or Farang (non_Asian)?Can you name some places (soapies I presume) that have a 1K price but only offer a 1Hr session?I am not aware of any Soapy offering less than 1.5 Hours and usually 2Hr is standard for basic fishbowl girls.Wouldn't leave much time for sex, after filling the bath, having the bath and getting dried. 15 mins left maybe

  6. #270

    new Thonglor

    Any one been the new Thonglor near asok I think it open last yr but I cannot find the place a few week ago when I was in town, I when to Thonglor II near soi 22 not too many girl there.Fast eddie 48

  7. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Forcejam
    Mate are you the YinYang in SBF?
    You mean that "competing forum" focusing on Singapore? No, there it's someone else's handle.

  8. #268
    Once again a tipping discussion. I think that overpaying by giving huge tips is just silly, it will just encourage double pricing and raises prices for everyone. Tips ARE NOT compulsory in Thailand, this is Thailand, not US. For a good service, a 5-10% tip is sufficent.Also, please keep in mind Thai wages. How you can feel sorry for the girl which makes a more than a 3-4 daily minum wage in just two hours (600-800B)? If the girl gets 800B per customer with tips, has 1. 5 customers per day and works 25 days per week, then she would make 800*1. 5*25 = 30000B per month. That's more than 6 TIMES minimum wage and a more than an young worker with a master's degree from a good university would earn. And all this with just 3 hours of work per day (1. 5 customers * 2 hours/customer) instead of 8-9 hours per day for a normal job.Here are some personal experiences: last year I went to some MP where I paid 1400B for two hours/shots (happy hour discount), the performance of the girl wasn't very good (no BBBJ etc.) and I was a bit frustrated. Still, because the girl tried to please me, I gave her a 100B tip, she was VERY happy about that, clearly she wasn't expecting any tip from me.Someone asked about the normal procedure and number of shots in soapies. I think in most 2000B places 2 shots are included with all normal girls. You can check this of course with a papasan, but basically if the place advertises 2 hour massage, then 2 shots are included in the base price. Cheaper, 1000B places usually have a 1h massage with a single shot. And it seems from these reports that 2 shots are not always the norm with sideliners or in more expensive places (Poseidon etc.).Usually, a soapy massage just includes a bath and sex. If the girl likes you and has massage skills, she may offer some massage between rounds, but it isn't a norm.

  9. #267

    Wad

    MickWad, great body, wholesome type, but yes, boring. Only covered BJ, which does not help. A a few ohhhs and ahhsss for action. That's about it.And as we all know it's always a personal thing. But no, I would not recommend her.JB
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Licker
    Are you saying that Wad was actually an O.K. girl but timid performer, but not suited to Nic looking for wild rugged pornstar sex?

  10. #266
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Licker
    Well I hope you tipped her nicely.
    ...Not to worry Mick.....good service equals suitable compensation. (Cheap Charlie No, Hansum Man Yes)

  11. #265

    Wad

    I guess it's a YMMV issue, no big deal.I could have been negatively influenced by her Appearance Vis a Vis her Pic.Her body was ok but not spectacular (if my memory serves me right), I don't usually care if the lady is gentle or rough as I like to let them set the pace of the session. Wad clearly made no effort. Is it because she sensed I was not too fond of her? who knows.

  12. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle Bluebird
    NicInteresting that you mention Wad. She has a great body, a very very firm ass, but she is not really what the doctor ordered after a stressful day in the office :-) I figure she is just too sweet, not rough and tough enough...But yes, I do have good memories with her.Should really query the girls at Thonglor 1/2 about this French guy LOL.JB
    Are you saying that Wad was actually an O.K. girl but timid performer, but not suited to Nic looking for wild rugged pornstar sex?

  13. #263

    Wad

    NicInteresting that you mention Wad. She has a great body, a very very firm ass, but she is not really what the doctor ordered after a stressful day in the office :-) I figure she is just too sweet, not rough and tough enough...But yes, I do have good memories with her.Should really query the girls at Thonglor 1/2 about this French guy LOL.JB
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy
    Report from my Thonglor 1 Session back in December 2007..

  14. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy
    Great review. I see Dao is back with her regular service standards.On the condoms issue: Do you honestly think the massage shop provides them? No, the girls have to buy them on their own and the oh so popular ones you see everywhere are only thb10 a piece.They buy these because they are the cheapest.
    I always take my own condoms 54mm (e.g. Durex Comfort if Thai ones) to avoid any chance of being hit with a 49er.

  15. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Duniawala
    decided to have quick trip to Akane. I chose the 90 minutes SP3 service.
    Service is S3P, and the girl you had is YUKI (I agree she does a super Job)

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