Pattaya Reports

[Lover Boy #2]

They hate their dark skins, which is why they don't like Indians. Ironically, thais must be part Indian, because I see many thais who LOOK Indian! It's called INDO-China for a reason. Homogenous race: balloney! LOL.

Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole, they can't tell the truth, and think their king is some kind of living deity.

Truth hurts!

I vote we drop this subject for now.......but the above really does look like a very intelligent analysis of the situation. The whole thing is about self hate and Thai being the center of the world (it's not!). It's also a lot of crap that Thais who have been to an American/western university somehow should be expected to escape from this situation. They go to a university in the west.....stay with mostly Thai people in their social group, want to eat only Thai food most of the time and pull the same shit off their soil that they pull on it. They then return to the fatherland at some point....and act the same as when they left (i.e. that "lie" thing they are famous for, men causing termoil in interpersonal relationships with drinking and "hanging" with Thai men, racism, etc.). This is a generalisation of course....but fits the many Thais I have been involved with (male and female on a non-sexual basis) in the west.

[Run Mann]

I thought it stood for Penile Inplant?

Another subject you're an expert on, you would think this because you have one?

[Old Thai Hand]

Wow! That was tasteless insulting the thousands of American soldiers who proudly served in the Philippines during the colonial period and after. PI stands for "Philippine Islands".

I thought it stood for Penile Inplant? Wow! You learn something everyday.

[Warbucks]

Looks like Americans GIs used PI because they had trouble spelling "The Philippines"
It is a tricky word.

Wow! That was tasteless insulting the thousands of American soldiers who proudly served in the Philippines during the colonial period and after. PI stands for "Philippine Islands".

[Old Thai Hand]

They hate their dark skins, which is why they don't like Indians. Ironically, thais must be part Indian, because I see many thais who LOOK Indian! It's called INDO-China for a reason. Homogenous race: balloney! LOL.

Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole, they can't tell the truth, and think their king is some kind of living deity.

Truth hurts!

An in-depth and sensitive understanding of Thai culture. My hat's off to you.

[Ibeme]

ML,

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how it came about (sigh).

[1Ball]

Mick, of course, you know my question was a joke........

Looks like Americans GIs used PI because they had trouble spelling "The Philippines"
It is a tricky word.

[M P Lurker]

PI = Phillipines

Looks like Americans GIs used PI because they had trouble spelling "The Philippines"
It is a tricky word.

[Professor10]

PI = Phillipines

[1Ball]

I also experienced the same in PI where I live.

Take It Sleazy

D Etat, what is PI ?

[Cheap Meat]

They hate their dark skins, which is why they don't like Indians. Ironically, thais must be part Indian, because I see many thais who LOOK Indian! It's called INDO-China for a reason. Homogenous race: balloney! LOL.

Really, this is why thais hate themselves. I am dark = I suck. Low self esteem = low behavior. Which is why the place is a craphole, they can't tell the truth, and think their king is some kind of living deity.

Truth hurts!

[Warbucks]

Thais are xenophobic (not racist - racism is internal). What a surprise? How many times does this have to be discussed?

They are a basically homogenous nation, never militarily colonized (unlike the rest of the surrounding countries), where people are indoctrinated from birth that Thailand has one culture and one essence ("Thainess") and where people have a disproportionate view of Thailand's place in the world ("Thailand #1") and where everyone is basically told to be suspicious of anyone who is not like them - just like the rest of Asia (try going to Korea or Japan, if you want to feel really unwelcome).

Bayareapundit - they hate everyone. It might be more blatant, based on your experience that they particularly hate Kaek (what they call Indians, Arabs and anyone else of a swarthy complexion). But, they hate Farang, too. They're just a lot more subtle about it. I experience xenophobia on a daily basis from my Thai co-workers and I'm as WASP as you can get - blonde hair, blue eyes, pasty, pink skin. Unlike the low-end Thais you met, who might be excused for their ignorance, the Thais I'm around are supposed to be educated and enlightened, having gone to school in the West. Yet, they make derogatory remarks about Farang every day and there is a definite double standard in terms of how we are treated.

However, your obnoxious behaviour didn't help matters any and only managed to strengthen stereotypes about Indians.

I would also like to point out that India isn't exactly a bastion of open-mindedness either. I've been there twice (once for 3 months) and find the people incredibly dishonest, rude, aggressive and downright hostile at times - probably the most insular, xenophobic place I've ever been in my life.

I am an African-American, black as night and I have worked with Indians guys in Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and the UAE. They are not the friendliest people in the world bruh. In their country its the same thing with the light skin more widely accepted. Also try talking with an Indian lady in front of those guys whether she is a ***** or not most of them get offended royally.

As for Thailand I have had a few bar girls turn their nose up at me. Then their are some who are begging hugging jumping on my back to go home with me. I also experienced the same in PI where I live. Guys if a girl doesn't like you whether she is a hooker or not move right along just as you would if a non-WG told you to fuck off...I have been to all the three major spots in Thailand more then once and had a great time each time. They seem to warm up a little more when I tell them that I am an American though.

Take It Sleazy

[Old Thai Hand]

Thais are xenophobic (not racist - racism is internal). What a surprise? How many times does this have to be discussed?

They are a basically homogenous nation, never militarily colonized (unlike the rest of the surrounding countries), where people are indoctrinated from birth that Thailand has one culture and one essence ("Thainess") and where people have a disproportionate view of Thailand's place in the world ("Thailand #1") and where everyone is basically told to be suspicious of anyone who is not like them - just like the rest of Asia (try going to Korea or Japan, if you want to feel really unwelcome).

Bayareapundit - they hate everyone. It might be more blatant, based on your experience that they particularly hate Kaek (what they call Indians, Arabs and anyone else of a swarthy complexion). But, they hate Farang, too. They're just a lot more subtle about it. I experience xenophobia on a daily basis from my Thai co-workers and I'm as WASP as you can get - blonde hair, blue eyes, pasty, pink skin. Unlike the low-end Thais you met, who might be excused for their ignorance, the Thais I'm around are supposed to be educated and enlightened, having gone to school in the West. Yet, they make derogatory remarks about Farang every day and there is a definite double standard in terms of how we are treated.

However, your obnoxious behaviour didn't help matters any and only managed to strengthen stereotypes about Indians.

I would also like to point out that India isn't exactly a bastion of open-mindedness either. I've been there twice (once for 3 months) and find the people incredibly dishonest, rude, aggressive and downright hostile at times - probably the most insular, xenophobic place I've ever been in my life.

[Allover]

Frequent visitor's to Thailand have heard the girls complain about Indians or Indian looking people. My response to Bayareapundit in no way condones racism. I was critical of his behavior and attitude. I do sympathize with persons of color that have a hard time in LOS.

During a Korea trip a few years ago, I visited one of their red lights districts. It consists of about three streets with the girls standing in windows similar to Amsterdam. The main street has gorgeous girls and the back street girls are not as pretty. A white guy will never be serviced by a main street hottie. Whites will only be serviced by girls on the side streets. It's prejudice and it sucks.

Thailand is not alone in being racist and racism can be directed at anyone, not just people of color.

[Lover Boy #2]

bayareapundit said; "at this point i am extremely pissed at thailand. so much so that i would like to bring harm to thailand, their establishments in usa, or any thai bloke or girl in general who happens to cross my walk of life".

this is what ends up happening when discrimination is thrown in a guy's face. these thai's can be pretty nasty fucks when it comes to their racial profiling.....and this poor guy seems to have caught a large dose of it on his trip. probably one incident after another can get anyone to this point. it really makes me sick when i constantly hear these thai's and their constant attitude and looking down upon indians and others. it seems to be a deeply ingrained prejudice towards indians and others who do not fit the "standard" of what these thai's like. i have been personally embarassed by an incident where three indian/euro/american east indians came to our project for consultation and they were treated like shit at the local p4p establishments. one time at the door can set the attitude for the night. it is easy for a white guy to say move on down the road to a place where they will let you enter......but it doesn't feel good to even be around three previously happy guys just looking for some tail.....and now they are told no entry....because you look indian. just think how the guy feels in the pit of his stomach being told that he can't get to the gate of fucking a common "so-peeni"....because of his nationality or race.