St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Robinson Crusoe]

Hi guys,

I would just want to know where exactly is the Seaman's Club, because I would love to go here next week!

And how do we do to get some take out girls for not too expensive?

Thanks you all.

[Lucky Strike]

Thanks very much for the info. Any idea what I should pay for services (in addition to the $50 multa) for a Carolina girl for a 4pm to 11am takeout?

I believe typical TLN at Carolina is $200 to $300. But there are many variable, as Shark pointed out.
It's basic supply vs. demand. More customers = potentially higher asking price. Expect to pay $300+ for the "hottest" girls, pro strippers, etc. If you travel during Heinekken regatta, expect to pay A LOT more for TLNs.
I think if you have a good "chemistry" with a girl, it may count into the price. Could a girl expect to have a good time with you (a "date", not just non-stop f***ing) or how badly she wants to get out of the club for a night?
I think SXM veterans will agree that it's better to negotiate good GFE service, rather than negotiate $50 discount.

[Shark16]

Thanks very much for the info. Any idea what I should pay for services (in addition to the $50 multa) for a Carolina girl for a 4pm to 11am takeout?

A TLN is usually from 8 pm to 10 or 11 am. The going price in Carolina seemed to be USD 300 + USD 50 when I was there in Januray. If the girl is popular and it is a Saturday night she may try to quote higher. If it is a quiet night (midweek) with one of the less popular girls, the market mechanisms should be in your favour. For the last category I was quoted USD 300 (multa incluido) for a TLN with a Seaman's girl without much negotiation (less was possible I believe).

The time between 4pm and 8pm is the girl's free time when she is resting and brushing her up for the night hours. I think everything is possible; from giving you this time for free, or simply refuse to go before 8pm. It depends on the girl and your negotiation skills.

Just my 2 cents.

[Multiscan]

From my somewhat limited experience I can say that many Colombianas speak some English, and some speak very good english. Dominicanas I've talked to speak very little to no english at all.

I believe Carolina girls have to pay "discount" $50 multa (plus $$ for services) from 4pm until 11am the following morning. Chicas at Seamans and Defiance never offered that. Instead they were asking for $100-150 multa (plus $$ for services), but for almost full 24 hour TLN (11am to 11am the following day.) So, depending on your time frame you can pay less for a TLN with Carolina girls.... if you can negotiate a reasonable price with the girls.

Thanks very much for the info. Any idea what I should pay for services (in addition to the $50 multa) for a Carolina girl for a 4pm to 11am takeout?

[DiggerMike]

Really appreciate all the info about SXM, will be there in two weeks, for my third trip.

But would like just a little help. Will be my first time in trying to get TLN from one of the places, and will be there during a Saturday, when no ships will be in Phillipsburg. How much would I anticipate in giving a lady for 12-24 hours, as well as how much in fines, and is there one time of the day better than another to try and negotiate this?

Suggestions on what would be nice to have in the room that she may enjoy, already anticipating some of that warming massage jelly to really help relax.

Is there also a beach to go to, kinda private, for some romantic beach time as well?

Thanks for the help and postings. Will post reports when I get there to help others.

[Ath Trainer]

I try to remember when I am picking a girl, that I am not picking the outfit. If we do go to her room, she will not be wearing it when we take care of business. Sometimes you can get caught up with what they are wearing, or their aggressive marketing campaign. Between implants and push up/padded bras, it's an investigative nightmare to know what you are choosing sometimes.

[Shark16]

Zing,
Please feel free to ROD your last report. If you don't, I will. It should be read by everybody who seeks GFE in SXM.

S16

[Rasjohnny]

Sounds like the same black girl that quoted me 30 minutes, but then asked for more money as soon as we got to room!!

Casa Blanca needs some new talent. Hope it is better next season!!

Casablanca girls and be as you have said extremely aggressive. I have had one girl literally drag me to the room. Luckily for her I really needed to bust a nut. It was a bit disconcerting. The make up was that she tried really hard to please.

[Zing23]

The Girl Friend Experience (GFE) includes kissing, french kissing, caresses, devotion to your pleasure, plenty of time, and often bareback blow job with ball action and more. The standard service is CBJ, no kissing on the lips, rushing, and a "next!" once you climax.

When you are in one of the clubs, take a look around before you say "yes" immediately to the first girl that approaches you.

You will see two kinds of girls.

The ones you notice first are those that have the guts to go up to guys and talk to them, stroke their privates, flash their tits, give lap dances, wear skimpy outfits, and have silicon tits. these are experienced pros who have worked st maarten, curacao, aruba, panama and other places. They can be exciting in the bed, but odds are they will not be GFE. They will be working to process you as quickly as possible for the maximum bucks possible (although they usually prefer to make you come quickly and take the standard $40 or $50 and make it up in volume). I call these girls the tiburones (sharks - no reflection on ISG member Shark16). My favorite girl at Seamans Club calls them pirahnnas. They can attack and consume guys. However, if you can get them to laugh and have fun, they can open up for you to, but it requires a lot of knowledge of Spanish and Latin culture.

At the other end of the spectrum are the girls who usually sit against the wall and wait for a guy to make the first move. They don't grab your dick. They don't dress as provocatively. They may be brand new to the business, or relatively new. They have natural bodies without silicon. They are just as pretty as the first group, but they don't market themselves as aggressively. You can sit unmolested with them and have a real conversation. If you don't speak Spanish, just stare into their eyes and mutter "bonita" over and over. These girls are the hidden gems of the St Maarten clubs.

And there are some girls who are in between the two extremes.

Right now I have 3 favorite girls at the clubs and all 3 are from the second, more reserved group. However, in the bedroom, all 3 are amazingly loving and sexy and hot with me. I know that one of them is equally hot with 2 other ISG members. By the way, I don't tell any of them about the others.

I don't publish their names here because I am still seeing them and, unfortunately, there are guys who read these reports and tell a girl what I wrote about them. As you can imagine, this causes me a great deal of grief with the chica. Especially if she does BBBJ for me, but doesn't do it for every guy. I am glad to pass on names and numbers to any members with a posting history. But remember, YMMV.

If you want to increase your odds for a Girl Friend Experience, my advice is to: look away from the aggressive hustlers at the bar and start sitting down with the quiet girls sitting around the edge of the room.

-zing

[Lucky Strike]

Where is it best to find a take-out girl in STM? I am looking to find a girl around mid-day until early next morning, for afternoon, evening and morning fun.

I speak no Spanish. Are some likely to be able to speak English and be worth to take out to dinner?

From my somewhat limited experience I can say that many Colombianas speak some English, and some speak very good english. Dominicanas I've talked to speak very little to no english at all.
I believe Carolina girls have to pay "discount" $50 multa (plus $$ for services) from 4pm until 11am the following morning. Chicas at Seamans and Defiance never offered that. Instead they were asking for $100-150 multa (plus $$ for services), but for almost full 24 hour TLN (11am to 11am the following day.) So, depending on your time frame you can pay less for a TLN with Carolina girls.... if you can negotiate a reasonable price with the girls.

[Lovin Chicas]

Sounds like the same black girl that quoted me 30 minutes, but then asked for more money as soon as we got to room!!

Casa Blanca needs some new talent. Hope it is better next season!!

Hey Zing,

I had the same experience there a few nights ago. Horrible!

There were very few girls there, although a few did look good, but it was pointless anyways, cuz prbly the same girl attacked me when I walked in and wouldn't let go. She even asked me for money for her seduction after I told her no for the room. When I tried even looking at other girls she would block my look.

Mind you, she did make me pretty horny, but that attitude, no way. Too bad, b/c I was really lookin forward to casablanca, now I'm not sure if I'll even return, was really surprised at how empty that place was though.

[Multiscan]

Where is it best to find a take-out girl in STM? I am looking to find a girl around mid-day until early next morning, for afternoon, evening and morning fun.

I speak no Spanish. Are some likely to be able to speak English and be worth to take out to dinner?

I have RTFF including reports of distinction, but most seems to be focused on the bars.

And; someone know if the Sonesta Great Bay Resort is girl friendly?

Thanks to anyone who could help.

[Haunted]

Hey Zing,

I had the same experience there a few nights ago. Horrible!

There were very few girls there, although a few did look good, but it was pointless anyways, cuz prbly the same girl attacked me when I walked in and wouldn't let go. She even asked me for money for her seduction after I told her no for the room. When I tried even looking at other girls she would block my look.

Mind you, she did make me pretty horny, but that attitude, no way. Too bad, b/c I was really lookin forward to casablanca, now I'm not sure if I'll even return, was really surprised at how empty that place was though.

[Zing23]

At Carolina, I went with a newly arrived girl: Natalia of Medellin to her rm, #12. This girl is slim, light-skinned with dark hair and an absolutely gorgeous face and a perfect little body. No silicon. No children. Intelligent. Composed. Nice.

In her room, the experience was okay. Nothing special, except for the excitement of having a physically perfect woman. But I didn't get a kiss on the lips until the very end, after I gave her a small gift for Valentines Day.

Perhaps someone else can melt her, but I could not.

Afterwards I leaned against my car outside the bar and wondered what to do next. Across the street a woman gestured to me. I said "hola" and we struck up a conversation. Maria asked me to buy her a drink in the little store there, then we sat and talked and watched the traffic go by. She was black, heavy, older, and with a careworn face that was probably cute a long time ago. She tried to get me to her room in Crystal Club by telling me it would be "muy barato" (very cheap).

I drove over to Defiance. Talked to several girls I know, but didn't see my regular. Same as at Carolina. The best girls are often away from the club with clients on the weekend.

At Seamans Club, I spent 3 hours with my regular, in the bar and twice in her room. In St Maaarten, if you become friendly with a girl, you usually learn more about their problems and the problems around them than you had expected. It can get very emotional. Today I heard about a drama that occurred yesterday, with a new girl, just arrived from Colombia. When she discovered what the work was really like, she hated it. She ran away from the club. Perhaps she had never been a prostitute before (as many girls claim). The police were called. The girls were in an uproar. The new girl returned or was returned to the club, and is still there. she cannot return to Colombia without paying back her airplane ticket, her contract, and her room fees. I don't know which girl it was - she wasn't pointed out to me.

At the end ofthe afternoon I returned to Carolina, empty bar and mostly empty hallways.

So I went across the street to Crystal Club, reserach for you guys. I sat with Jennifer at the bar, a nice looking black woman from Cali, Colombia. Large breasts, not skinny, but fit and sexy. Attractive face with large sensual lips. Stayed for 30 ninutes. A few guys were playing pool and talking to 3 girls. One guy danced bachata with one of the girls. She was quite good, he was a good dancer but more in the SXM style than the bachata style. Not a bad place to hang out at 500pm. I would have gone to the room with Jennifer, but she just didn't seem that interested, although nice to talk to.

Visited Peite Chateau about 530pm. Lot sof guys around, no girls at all.

Visited Casa Blanca at 6pm. Repeat of last time. 6 so-so girls in the bar, a pretty girl with a slight gut attached herself to me. Very pretty eyes. Aggressive salesmanship. "Let's go to my room". No relaxed talking. Left after 20 minutes.

End of day.

-zing

[Rasjohnny]

Guys,

I'm planning a trip to Sxm for the first time. I'm looking at staying in the Great Bay Hotel and Casino in Philipsburg since that area is close to the action. If any of you are familiar with this place, let me know if "guests" are welcome and also whether I can walk to the brothels from this location.

Thanks!

I have spent one night there before. It is not a bad place, right on the beach with two pools and the usual pool bar. It is kept in decent condition though you can sense that it has had better years. Casino on site and lounge bar and I did notice at least one restaurant. Did not spend enough time to check it out fully.

I would recommend getting a taxi and not trying to walk to the houses. The area between the hotel and the main par tof Phillipsburg is a bit desolate and one night walking to the main part of town, I did notice some guys lurking around. This is in addition to the fact that it would be a good 30-45 mins walk. I never did try to bring someone back But I do not suspect that it would be an issue.