Jakarta

[Rainman 2108]

Can some one enlighten me or explain, howcome the thai girls here are better looking and sexier than the ones in singapore and in Pattaya? Can I find such quality elsewhere?

Those imported from Thailand are of very high quality. I know the papi that is the supplier and we met in Bangkok too.

When he was working hand in hand with the owner of Golden Crown, he brought in Ms Thailand 2002 then in 2005. Rup 7.5 million for short time and the models fr Rup 5 million ST.

Cheers

PS: He does supply some to Singapore. U need to have contact to be invited for the party. I think Sin150 or 200, 90 min and u can hv 2 shots.

[Rainman 2108]

Bro Rainmain, may I confirm that you paid more than 1/2 a million IR to get in?

KL Guy

Bro,

Not sure, 2 ladies, my bule guest and myself. Order a beer and a jug of Illusion. Was told to pay Rups, 566k and so I did.

Comment on Tiga Puluh? why is it so dead? Recent visit to Top Gun and was told by the gals there nowadays rather quiet? Why are the Bules?

Chers

[John Aldrich]

pardon my digging up an old post, but i am wondering if oyenk or any jakarta experts out there can recommend a good spa for an excellent no-plus-plus massage session. when visiting a spa for a massage, i generally don't care for any of the extras (that includes hjs!) primarily but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?

i have been to delta spa once before (kelapa gading) but experienced the upsell (to a 4th time-block) by a slightly overweight masseuse who, incidentally, delivered an *excellent* massage with hot stones. basically, is there anywhere else where i can get the same quality massage w/o the upsell (i am there to destress and relax and don't want to be bothered with the sly manoueverings to upsell) and/or can anybody recommend a masseuse at delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?

you will get it at bersih sehat, the inhouse massage parlour of sahid jaya hotel. its very clean, no frills, and you will find a lot of families waiting to get a massage there including women, both young and old. it used to be located in the old menteng plaza building, which got converted into fortune hotel. the bersih sehat parlour has obtained iso 9000 also.it has many branches across the country, but i know of only these two locations.

the other one is martha tilaar. not only are they located all across indonesia, they have also started expanding into other countries. try them and their lulur susu is also pretty good and relaxing.


cheers

[Rainman 2108]

No problems.

By mentionning this particular girl, I wanted to point that Indonesia does play by its own rules ... and that's what makes Jakarta so special ..almost each and every girl of all social classes (even if she's part of the wealthiest elite clique) is usually outgoing, friendly and approachable, and is a potential target.

I really hate to say this.......

Maybe u are the potential target too and not just them... Knew a bunch of girls that goes man hunting in Kemang ever so often.

Cheers

[Rainman 2108]

Well well....

Nothing is really free anyway. U pay in one way or another... ....

Cheers

Of course you're right.

Some JKT high-end clubs girls are wealthy enough to have with you absolutely no materialistic expectations (I've had a one year intermittent relationship with Retno, one of Suharto's granddaughter, and believe me, she was not after a few rupiahs !), some are greedy high-octane bitches only eager to relieve you from your last €, some others are in-between, but anyway with all "elite" categories you can't avoid to repetively pay for the dinner in Blowfish or Dragonfly, for the elaborate cocktails in Manna Lounge or Burgundy, for the entrance and drinks in Centro or wherever and for the occasional after-hours meal in Peacock Cafe.

You are even sometimes tempted to invite one of your fav in your country, especially if she's a C-cup hottie. C'est la vie when you're a clueless monger.

[Rainman 2108]

X2 is indeed very happening and that's on Ladies night, Thur I think and week end... Try red square which is pack nearly everyday..

It's just a small pub and still wondering why biz is so good here.

Cheers

Heard that X2 capacity was 2500 - 3000 pax and was filled to the walls on weekends. Difficult to maintain it as a "best kept secret" for ourselves.

Anyway you're right. With game, self confidence and cultural awareness, scoring in JKT glam clubs is not that hard. Unlike their western counterparts, indonesian elite girls are often quite approachable, and the key to success with most of them is personality and not bankroll. I admit I have met a few gems in this target category. Retro in its heydays (late 90s to 2002), Zanzibar, Musro or Prego during the same period, or more recently Centro, Embassy, Manna Lounge, Cina Bar or Dragonfly have always been very favorable hunting grounds for me.

Mid-level range spots were also good options. In Kemang I've often met hot middle-class girls hungry for adventure or bule boyfriends and even gotten a BJ on different occasions without having to leave the parking lot.

I truly miss the indo flavor. Gotta leave the East Europe dyevs for a while and go back to JKT.

[Cooze Hound]

can anybody recommend a masseuse at Delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?

Well I always used to go to Delta at Grand Wijaya and order the basic 3 ( 3 x 45 mins ) session which includes the HJ. Of course one can always decline the HJ and or take it on a session by session basis.
I like Delta because it is clean and friendly and I know what I am getting. Granted not as cheap as others but generally a dam good massage.

[Knight 1001]

..... but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?
.... can anybody recommend a masseuse at delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?

hi bro,

basically you can find such therapist nearly in all massages. the ladies who will provide that will most likely be older than the ++ provider ones.
there are 2 or 3 places that i could recommend you:

- tropical spa near roxy mas mall: talk to pak aan, he's the duty manager in charge, or better to pak aguan, he's the owner, and they will give you what you want. you can request for number 48, she's 29 years old, a bit chubby, but delivers very good massage. number 29 is also good but she likes to play.

- sands spa, in mangga dua square: higher end spa and massage. again ask the girls who will allocate the therapists and they will choose a good one for you. i never have been even proposed a ++ session there. you have a choice of local or chinese therapists, and corresponding style.

- sumber sehat spa in grand wijaya centre: they have some excellent therapists and it's cheap, 110 000 rp for 1.5 hours and 140 000 rp for 2 hours. ask for amel and debbie or also tell the receptionist what type of massage you want, strong or soft.

hope you'll find what you want. enjoy jakarta.

cheers

[Raverboy]

yes, you may have it but you got to approach the therapist first...in delta group.
and it might take several visits to that therapist.

finally i don't want everybody in this thread to expose therapist's number to this forum ! their management has very strict regulations about plus-plus service...once they know, this therapist will be fired by the management.

do exchange therapist's number by pm. thank you.

cheers.

pardon my digging up an old post, but i am wondering if oyenk or any jakarta experts out there can recommend a good spa for an excellent no-plus-plus massage session. when visiting a spa for a massage, i generally don't care for any of the extras (that includes hjs!) primarily but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?

i have been to delta spa once before (kelapa gading) but experienced the upsell (to a 4th time-block) by a slightly overweight masseuse who, incidentally, delivered an *excellent* massage with hot stones. basically, is there anywhere else where i can get the same quality massage w/o the upsell (i am there to destress and relax and don't want to be bothered with the sly manoueverings to upsell) and/or can anybody recommend a masseuse at delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?

[Oyenk]

Who made you the forum police?

Member just like you ! who would turn this forum such as kindergaten forum.

[Jkt After Dark 2]

Jayagopal50,

Thai girls work Jkt upmarket spas targeting Indo Chinese and Indonesian gentlemen who happen to share the same rating scale with Thai gentlemen. These girls are also expensive in Thailand.

I hope this helps!

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Can some one enlighten me or explain, howcome the thai girls here are better looking and sexier than the ones in singapore and in Pattaya? Can I find such quality elsewhere?

[Menteng]

Your report (#1950 by the way) did not disappear. Although you posted it less than a week ago, it now can be found three pages back. A lot of posts have been written lately!

According to the U.S. Embassy's warning, X-2 in Jakarta is one of the places where unsuspecting males have been targeted for drink-spiking, along with After Hours, BATS and Red Square in Jakarta and Desperados in Surabaya.

Since I feel that the info in Menteng's report is important, I've taken the liberty of re-posting it below:

Thanks MS! Lesson learned: me too, I should have RTFF as well before posting!

[Mighty Spearsman]

Somehow my report about drink-spiking disappeared from this thread. Anyhow, I supposed that the warning by the US-embassy was triggered by what happened to this American guy lately. A guy, Jad2 and I met during his trips to various places to track down a pair, (he: North African; she: Thai) he met in X2, that drugged him in his Mulia hotelroom.

Your report (#1950 by the way) did not disappear. Although you posted it less than a week ago, it now can be found three pages back. A lot of posts have been written lately!

According to the U.S. Embassy's warning, X-2 in Jakarta is one of the places where unsuspecting males have been targeted for drink-spiking, along with After Hours, BATS and Red Square in Jakarta and Desperados in Surabaya.

Since I feel that the info in Menteng's report is important, I've taken the liberty of re-posting it below:

The US Embassy's warning might be triggered by what happened two weeks ago to Chuck (not his real name). Chuck met this couple at X2, a guy of North African origin and a beauty from Thailand. As they apparently have the same business background, Chuck invited them to his room in hotel Mulia to have some wine. 17 hours later he woke up and found out that his wallet, passport, laptop and camera were gone. With a photo of the couple in his hands, thanks to the CCTV in Mulia, Chuck started to visit the known night-spots in Jakarta, trying to find some trace. That was when he met JAD2 and me at a juice-stand in Kota. He told us the story and as we also recognized in him a mongerer, we felt sympathy and for a week we guided him to visit some places. Even our estimated brother MDII, who happened to be in Jakarta, joined the search. But, to no result! Even the police have not find them.

We were right when we recognized in Chuck a true mongerer. He managed to mix business and pleasure several times, when searching for those criminals!

Good luck, Chuck and to the others: beware!

[Menteng]

Any report about X2, .............. ?

Somehow my report about drink-spiking disappeared from this thread. Anyhow, I supposed that the warning by the US-embassy was triggered by what happened to this American guy lately. A guy, Jad2 and I met during his trips to various places to track down a pair, (he:North African; she:Thai) he met in X2, that drugged him in his Mulia hotelroom.

[Kodja]

Please do not chit-chat !

Please add info in this thread, anything ! and do not be senior member just because you have 25 posts. Sorry again.

Your post was unnecessay. Who made you the forum police?

These guys seem to have resolved the issue by themselves.