North China - Beijing

[The Tanuki]

.... Then came the sticker shock. Like Taiwanguy said 2000RMB seems to be the going rate in downtown BJ and this was after some serious negotiating. Plus she said it didn’t help that the mami knew I was staying in one of the most expensive hotels in BJ. I actually tried to send her off, but she pleaded with me and said that if she went back with only the massage fee she was going to get scolded by the mami and get ignored for outcalls for the next day. Ah what the hell you only live once right? Plus she was pretty hot, I went for it.

Well, like the Ferrari dealers say, it's only expensive if you can't afford it.

I would've though 2k rather spendy myself, but several girls started out that high and came down to some reality. But if you got 3 pops out of it, maybe not such a bad deal overall. That being said, a lot of the girls who are around will stay the night for 1500 give or take. Outcall is more money for less service, on a normal day (what's normal anymore though??).

I hope you guys who are around can try out Mix and let us know what you come back with. I'd love to get back in there and take a shot.

There's always BBS around for a little sleazier piece of something (OK, a LOT sleazier...).

Tankuki

[Sammy_T]

Now that Maggies is closed, have all the girls left town? What is the current situation at The Pig, The Den, Hard Rock, Hollywood?

OAH

There are girls still around, but they do not gather in concentrated areas as before. No single girls will be allowed in The Pig until after the olympics. This means if you want to drop by with your favorite Chinese/Mongolian girl and have a drink she will not be turned away, but you will have to enter together. This seems to be the rule for all bars in Beijing. If the police stop by and see a large group of unaccompanied females they are going to start checking passports.

The Hard Rock is still under construction. I have not been to the Den or Hollywood, but I received a PM from another senior member who indicated Hollywood was busy.

I have been to many different bars around town, and see some familiar faces at several of them. It seems the key is that the girls go out in pairs and will stop in one bar for a short period of time and then head to a different bar. The idea is that a moving target is harder for the police to catch, but at the same time it is harder for us to find them.

Sammy

[Lo Fi]

Hello Gents,

I'm new to this forum, but been involved in the hobby a few years now in other parts of the world. I've been eagerly digesting info from this thread for about a month in preparation of an upcoming Beijing trip. But excitement has turned to horror as this land of plenty gets "cleaned up". And unfortunately I'll be there right during the upcoming event. But posts like that of Tankuki below offer some hope, so I kindly request that those with boots on the ground keep the info coming, you guys are the "sharp end of the spear" haha. And non-Chinese speaking Beijing neophytes like myself will need all the help we can get!

[Mojo888]

went to see how wangjing 419 was over the weekend. Nos 16 nor 39 as favourites not available, so took no 22 as recommended by the lady behind the desk. When she arrived, she was not the same 22 I have encountered before, seems they have re-used numbers for new ladies. Also, price was 130
for one HJ, at least this gal told 2nd time (that at least earlier was included) would be another 130.

Wonder if same experiences with others. This new no 22 not worth the money.

knob

I haven't tried the NEW 22, but agree the old no. 22 was great. But I have to say that as a regular at 419 for more than one year, the current crop of girls is the best I've ever seen there. 12, 29, 56, 78 are all superb.

[OldAsiaHand]

Now that Maggies is closed, have all the girls left town? What is the current situation at The Pig, The Den, Hard Rock, Hollywood?

OAH

[Unagi7]

First time in BJ for me. Not good on FR so I apologize in advance for the length of this FR.

Since I am not a expert on KTV’s, plus the fact that you need to have the addresses and directions written in Chinese for the taxi drivers to get to the right spots, I thought I follow Tankuki’s lead and give Lotus Place from CL a go.

I speak a little Chinese and tried to request a Mongolian girl, the mami basically said all Mongolian girls were out of town, but of course all her other girls were very beautiful.

Waited around for 45 min and then the desk called me to say “my friend” was waiting for me downstairs. The hotel where I am staying is pretty ostentatious, so I just brazened it out and went to down to get the girl. When I saw her I just acted like I was meeting my long lost girl friend and gave her a big hug and walked her upstairs.

The girl they sent over was a young tiny little thing. 5’ 3” at best and maybe 90 lbs soaking wet. Very curvy and cute as a button in a Japan doll sort of way.

Once we were in the room I tried settling the price up front. She played dumb and said just doing massage only. So I went with it and away went. For such tiny girl she gave great oil message I must say, not the usual lame soft stroking but a decent pressure point message.

She was super friendly and we chatted all the while in my broken Chinese. Lots of laughing from both sides. After a good long hour massage she asked me if I wanted something in Chinese that I did not understand. Then she said BJ and actually blushed. We were both laughing again. Then came the sticker shock. Like Taiwanguy said 2000RMB seems to be the going rate in downtown BJ and this was after some serious negotiating. Plus she said it didn’t help that the mami knew I was staying in one of the most expensive hotels in BJ. I actually tried to send her off, but she pleaded with me and said that if she went back with only the massage fee she was going to get scolded by the mami and get ignored for outcalls for the next day. Ah what the hell you only live once right? Plus she was pretty hot, I went for it.

Now the good stuff. 18 and a really nice body, smooth size C’s, tiny little ass you could hold in your hand and smooth and almost totally shaved. Nice.

Tried to cap me for the BJ but I said no and she didn’t argue, nice technique. Then things got really going. That 18-year-old pussy is pretty amazing. Put it this way she could my finger so tight I couldn’t move it. Total gymnast, all positions achieved, including heavy 69 my personal fav. Felt like I was in a Japanese porno. No CIM though. Three hours, and three condoms later it was finally over. Have to admit it was one of the better times I had.

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[Ragnarok42]

Nos 16 nor 39 as favourites not available, so took no 22 as recommended by the lady behind the desk. When she arrived, she was not the same 22 I have encountered before, seems they have re-used numbers for new ladies.

Really? Number 22 was one of my favorites. That despite the fact that she was the only one of the girls that would not give me FS. For a girl to be that wet and horny and still refuse, that takes will power.

Who knows? Maybe some one actually got it inside her and she left 419 to be with him. Fairy tale ending ;-P

[Ragnarok42]

I paid 2000RMB for overnight girl delivery to my hotel in Shenzhen, and this is about the same rate of a high-end KTV girl in the 400RMB-tip KTV in Beijing.

Hey Taiwan Guy, great to see you are alive and kicking. Sorry we could not hook up when you were in Taipei last time, maybe next time we can go hit some places. But 2000 RMB? Damn that is pricey, and I thought Taipei was pricey at 1200 a pop....

Take care, happy hunting and see you next time you are in town.

Cheers.

Rag42

[Beijing Fox]

Good to hear that you are still alive and ..cking. While in the past, I was not so fond of KTV, purely because of the language barrier, I think I have to change my behaviour and go there for a lesson or two. I'll contact you, when I'm back in Beijing next time. One questions, can you sit for an oral exam in Beijing KTVs, like in Singapore?

I was out of town for a one-week biz trip in Dongguan (Chang An and Chang Ping) and Shenzhen. Please refer to my report at Dongguan forum below:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=1628

It's a pity that I wasn't able to meet OldAsiaHand there, as he was also traveling in other cities last week.

I think while Beijing mongering is overpriced, the quality of girls are better than South China. Also the WG I met rarely offered GFE there. Most WG (only a few exceptions) refused me to kiss. One even refused me to kiss her big tits (though I still pushed hard enough to kiss for a few minutes.)

I paid 2000RMB for overnight girl delivery to my hotel in Shenzhen, and this is about the same rate of a high-end KTV girl in the 400RMB-tip KTV in Beijing. This girl is not better than her Beijing counterparts (her tits are small), but she was VERY enthusiastic to serve me and totally GFE. Also consider my hotel in Shenzhen is 1 hour away from the downtown, and taxi fare in Shenzhen is much higher than Beijing (1 hour cab ride to SZ downtown is 200RMB roundtrip, and to Chang An / Chang Ping is 2 hour ride for 500-700RMB roundtrip). I did the math that it will also cost 1700-2000RMB for a cab trip to Dongguan sauna from my hotel (plus the time consumed), I just accepted to spend 2000RMB for delivery to my hotel, LT in a 5-star resort hotel, with a cute young girl not only BBBJ but also kissing your foot and legs (a subset of Dongguan style sauna at hotel room) and sex inside a big bathtub...I will write more on the Shenzhen forum.

Beijing is not dead yet, as KTVs are still hot places to go. I have visited many KTV during the crackdown before Chinese New Year (when my wife was out of town for 2.5 weeks), and also a few KTV after I returned Beijing on March (around the time of the big M incident.) I look forward to monger again in BJ for more classy girls.

Cheers,
Taiwan Guy

[Nobody Doe]

I haven't heard about Taiwan Guy for some time . . . .

Has his jealous wife caught him in the act and killed him?

Taiwan Guy tell it is not true>

I was out of town for a one-week biz trip in Dongguan (Chang An and Chang Ping) and Shenzhen. Please refer to my report at Dongguan forum below:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=1628

It's a pity that I wasn't able to meet OldAsiaHand there, as he was also traveling in other cities last week.

I think while Beijing mongering is overpriced, the quality of girls are better than South China. Also the WG I met rarely offered GFE there. Most WG (only a few exceptions) refused me to kiss. One even refused me to kiss her big tits (though I still pushed hard enough to kiss for a few minutes.)

I paid 2000RMB for overnight girl delivery to my hotel in Shenzhen, and this is about the same rate of a high-end KTV girl in the 400RMB-tip KTV in Beijing. This girl is not better than her Beijing counterparts (her tits are small), but she was VERY enthusiastic to serve me and totally GFE. Also consider my hotel in Shenzhen is 1 hour away from the downtown, and taxi fare in Shenzhen is much higher than Beijing (1 hour cab ride to SZ downtown is 200RMB roundtrip, and to Chang An / Chang Ping is 2 hour ride for 500-700RMB roundtrip). I did the math that it will also cost 1700-2000RMB for a cab trip to Dongguan sauna from my hotel (plus the time consumed), I just accepted to spend 2000RMB for delivery to my hotel, LT in a 5-star resort hotel, with a cute young girl not only BBBJ but also kissing your foot and legs (a subset of Dongguan style sauna at hotel room) and sex inside a big bathtub...I will write more on the Shenzhen forum.

Beijing is not dead yet, as KTVs are still hot places to go. I have visited many KTV during the crackdown before Chinese New Year (when my wife was out of town for 2.5 weeks), and also a few KTV after I returned Beijing on March (around the time of the big M incident.) I look forward to monger again in BJ for more classy girls.

Cheers,
Taiwan Guy

[Knobrm]

went to see how wangjing 419 was over the weekend. Nos 16 nor 39 as favourites not available, so took no 22 as recommended by the lady behind the desk. When she arrived, she was not the same 22 I have encountered before, seems they have re-used numbers for new ladies. Also, price was 130
for one HJ, at least this gal told 2nd time (that at least earlier was included) would be another 130.

Wonder if same experiences with others. This new no 22 not worth the money.

knob

[The Tanuki]

It's just that the "life" has now moved exclusively to non-Maggie locations in the past few weeks, for previously documented reasons... However, there is still a lot of muff to be diving in, and all is not lost in the capitol city. These are what I've found in the past week:

My rule No. 1: find out where Zhuren and Sammy are partying. There just happen to be women hanging out where they are. Cafe del Mar on Friday night had quite a gaggle of Filipina girls downstairs, for example. Heard some rumors of the cops getting ready to raid the place, but that could just be general paranoia spreading.

Sanlitun has a lot of potential options, but not sure I'd risk them. Mostly guys trying to get you to go some place by taxi where you can pick out Pina's for 600 RMB. I'll pass on that myself, but it might be real. Some guy also offered me some hash that night. Oh yes, please, I want to spend 20 years in Chinese prison!

Mix: I'll be there next time in town. Crawling with hotties and an awful lot of them acted available. Did I say the girls were hot there?

Delivery style: Lots of "massage" services listed in CL, English yellow pages, expatriates dot com web site, etc. Having tried 3 times with success, all in all, I'd say they're useful when time is at a premium, though they're more expensive of course. Had to laugh at the last one. The girl gets a customer calling while she's blowing me. In between up-down strokes she'd answer his questions. Seemed pretty blatant, and I was chuckling in the background...

Hotel lobby: At first things were conspicuously quiet, then all of a sudden the ladies started re-appearing around the Kerry lobby side areas, offering themselves up. Didn't stop to chat, so don't know the pricing. The one I talked to was getting on in age and not that interesting...

BBS: Tried one for the first time this trip. Fucking weird experience in a room the size of a grave (that was my thought while laying there looking up). Couldn't get rid of the second chick, so ended up getting a pair. That worked out since the cuter girl wouldn't really do BJ (she put a fuckin plastic bag over my dick, could not believe that bullshit), but the chubby chick managed BBBJCIM. Awfully sleazy stuff, which was fine 20 years ago in the PI but not so appealing anymore.

Chinese girlfriend: Met her at the Pig a couple months ago where she goes occasionally. She has a local boyfriend but still likes to fuck me. Horny girl!

And for the last note, the Mongolian girls I talked with are all planning to be back to Beijing after the Olympics heat dies down (assuming it does). So that should be returning to the menu later. Meantime, enjoy what's there!


Cheers,

Tankuki

[Da Bot]

This is really nothing special. I have seen the same happening over and over since, let me think, 1999?

Beijing is reconstructed each time I return and all these little shops (not just BBS) they come and go. And even if the premise is still intact, tenants come and go too. Out with the old, in with the new and all that.

I will return to Beijing too next week - and I do not expect a single BBS from my last time to be in the same place, with the same staff or even the same cityscape around.

Well, maybe so, but these particular BBS had been stable for the last couple of years. I just find the timing interesting.

[FernandoAlonso]

Today went to the place outside mentioned before, is not so bad to reach but technically not even Beijing district anymore, it is Hebei province (maybe that is why it is cheap and still untouched). 45 minutes by taxi there from East 3rd ring North for 120 RMB, back little bit faster 100 RMB (driver offered to stay for a 300 RMB roundtrip but did not want to negotiate-his problem). No problem at all getting a taxi back in the afternoon but as they are local drivers having a Beijing map is not a bad idea to show them where to go.

The sauna works even if you speak little Chinese, but this town is strictly no English (unless you want to buy real estate, which is the hot trend there at the moment). Found only one place, the bigger mentioned, indeed easy but you must know where it is, from the outside just the SAUNA characters in Chinese give a hint and if you cannot make clear in Chinese what you want there, no chance. Small tip if your changing room is not the first to the left you may reconsider. Shower is not that bad, but hey guys if you want a luxury spa what are you doing there anyway? No big selling with the pyjamas, just take the paper underwear asking for the big sizes and point to the golden lease ones, null problemo. .

Girls upstairs are indeed many, quality so-so, really need to sit down and choose carefully many older models, some quite aggressive, but this place also bursts from Chinese customers (at least on Saturday afternoon) so quite a come and go.

Picked one that was not so aggressive and was ok, but you really need to take your time and warm them up with you or you just get very fast fast food (of course she tried to get double price as foreigners are oh so big, just pretend not to understand.). Short BBBJ, then reached for condome, I said no, first some getting in the mood foreplay (foreplay in China what is that again), that led to some allowed DATY and she seemed to starting to enjoy is, no more cold fish. So if you get them wet it gets ok, but limited GFE (no kissing, a bit of fingering) but in the end she went for it and so I also got my fun.

So for 160 RMB (did not get the message for full menu across but not sure if that is really worth it) no reason to complain at all. Did not go for second round as other plans for tonight.

Good value for money, travel is a bit tiring and not so cheap, but altogether for sure currently the alternative unless the M superstars are back (fast, fast, fast). I guess there are more cities/places offering that, most probably in all surrounding towns with good highway access but you need a local or this forum and/or Chinese knowledge or you will walk by without noticing. So a big thanks to the original poster, all regular visitors know what place I mean, the rest RTFF and search or PM me

PS: will post some language info in the according section, helped me: wo3 yao te1 bie2 fu wu. I want special service massage.

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[Zhuren]

Worth a visit again...