Puerto Vallarta

[Palamides]

I just got back and had an enjoyable time; not just in PVR but in Zacatecas and Guadalajara.

First night in PVR we went to Hysteria in centro. Nice place and helpful staff but way to expensive for the girls in my oppinion. Yes the drinks for the girls were $15/beer and $20/mixed drink but they tended to stay around for more than a song so that was ok with me. The girl I was with was so totally hot I loved it. Prices for sex on premesis were $200/ for 1/2 hour and $250 for an hour. They said I could take a girl out of the places for $270 and a nice tip for the staff. The two younger girls working were really hot, fun affectionate but I thought the prices quoted were too much.

More on the zona later. Thanks Urban Wildlife for the tip on Casa Dona Susana it was ok for the price.

I like staying down at the centro/old vallarta and enjoy hanging out at los arcos on the beach and by the pools. Lots of nice families there. I found the close proximity to gay friendly hotels and openly gay and transexual behavior a little disconcerting.

[UrbanWildlife]

Thanks Jackson for deleting the post below. We most certainly do not need these high end rip off escort services on the forum advertizing there services. True mongers go out and find some company. Obviously one of the members here turned them on to the ISG.

So does anyone have anything new to offer to this thread on mongering in Puerto Vallarta?. I provided information recently to a couple of people through p.m who were going to be in Puerto Vallarta in May. Guys, please give back to the forum. Now is also a great time to get really nice accomodations in Puerto Vallarta really cheap, so contact me via p.m for details.

[Pvplaymates]

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[Skug37]

I went to Conojitos a couple of weeks ago and had a similar problem as UrbanWildlife (see post #332)

This is starting to get interesting, in that a good friend of mine was there just a few weeks ago and reported the exact same problem! Furthermore, nobody seemed to care when he left. El Y Ella, which is right next door, is a much better place. The last time that I was in Conejitas was a few years ago, and I noticed that it was still run down, however they were trying to charge the same amount as El Y Ella. The difference in the rooms between the 2 places is also like night and day. Also, a "Privado" in Conejitas is right out in the open on the stained cushion chairs they have, with everyone watching you. A "Privado" at El Y Ella is in a private room that resembles a dressing room. One time at Conejitas when I started fingering the hooker doing the Privado, the Waiter ran over and told me that I needed to pay for a room for that activity. During the same week, a woman from El Y Ella complained about me for throwing cold beer up her snatch during a Privado, and the Waiter and Bouncer just said that she probably deserved it and that I could stay as long as I wanted to. In essence, El Y Ella is much better!

[UrbanWildlife]

I liked the suggestions of going to the ladies bars/mesaje and then making dates for later that evening, next day or their day off. I know there have been references in past posts but I would appreciate the general locations of ladies bars, mesaje etc. , so I can check it out for myself. The girls from the strip clubs will most likely be out of my price range

Also I found a cool inexpensive hotel called Posada Rodger (very cheap) and would like to know what you guys think of it? Also how difficult it would be to get a girl back there in the afternoon, evening or for TDL.

I am very familiar with Hotel Roger as one of my very close friends owns Fredy's Tucan Restaurant which is attached to it. The restaurant is a staple in Puerto Vallarta for its reasonably priced breakfasts, and the quality of its food. I have actually stayed at the Roger many years back when I used to come to Puerto Vallarta as a tourist. The hotel is in a great location, and is adaquate. I would refer you to Casa Dona Susana (formerly Los Arcos Vallarta) which is in the same general area, but is a few steps from one of the nicest beaches that Puerto Vallarta has to offer, and is a SUPER value right now for about $55. 00 dollars a night. It would be classified as a 3 star property, where as Roger would be a 1 or 2 at best. It is my opinon that this area of Puerto Vallarta is the very best area to be for a variety of reasons, mostly because you are not stuck in a hotel tourist zone, but in a mix of locals and tourists, with many opportunities. The $55. 00 rate is available on Expedia and Orbitz travel sites. I know this property first hand, and actually was in the property in April, and it is way above what you are going to receive at Hotel Roger for approximately the same amount of money. Directly across the street from Casa Dona is the Los Arcos Suites at $63. 00 dollars a night on the above mentioned sites, and this is a great property as well, with many amentities. Great price and value. A side note. If you decide to follow my recommendations and book one of these properties, make sure you have it on your reservation for 2 persons. The price is the same either way, but it should protect you if anything is said about taking guests to your room. I want to make it very clear, that at no time have I experienced or heard of these properties not letting in a guest, but I am telling you as a preventive measure should the subject come up.

As far as the girls go, I suggest you read the posts I made in April, as nothing has changed since I wrote them. I also suggest you contact me for the contact of my friend, who I spoke about in my post on April 17th. The guy can be a real asset for you, even if it just getting information on girls. In addition, I might very well be in Puerto Vallarta during this same time period you will be, so feel free to contact me. I will do whatever I can to make your time in Puerto Vallarta a memorable one. I would like to offer you my assistance on Guadalajara, but I do not feel comfortable doing so, since it has been quite a few months since I have mongered in that beautiful city. It is one of my favorite cities in the world for many reasons.

[Palamides]

Traveling with a friend of mind 2nd week in june to Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta. I've read both boards and thank you all very much for the useful information. Unfortunately pickings look fairly slim in guadalajara and PV. Of course its not Tailand but relatively speaking.

I liked the suggestions of going to the ladies bars/mesaje and then making dates for later that evening, next day or their day off. I know there have been references in past posts but I would appreciate the general locations of ladies bars, mesaje etc., so I can check it out for myself. The girls from the strip clubs will most likely be out of my price range

Also I found a cool inexpensive hotel called Posada Rodger (very cheap) and would like to know what you guys think of it? Also how difficult it would be to get a girl back there in the afternoon, evening or for TDL.

thanks in advance for the info.

Any tips on Guadalajara, or some of the surrounding sights where the girls might be cheaper would be appreciated.

[UrbanWildlife]

Hi Don Tonto!

Oh my god! Sorry to here what happend to you! Where in PV is that shit-club? I don´t like to go there by accident when I am back in PV!

Sex Hunter I know you read my report 4/13/2008 so you should know where Conojitos is located. I will let you read back through to find it.

[The Sex Hunter]

Hi Don Tonto!

Oh my god! Sorry to here what happend to you! Where in PV is that shit-club? I don´t like to go there by accident when I am back in PV!

[Don Tonto]

I went to Conojitos a couple of weeks ago and had a similar problem as UrbanWildlife (see post #332), but with a different crooked waiter: mid 20's, pudgy with a fair complexion. He tried to pull-off the old bill switch scam: I gave him a 200 peso note and with some sleight of hand, he tried to convince me that I had given him a 20 peso note. This was after I clearly showed and told him that I was handing him a 200 peso note. What kind of dumbass did he think I was? I didn't even have a 20 peso note in my pocket when I entered the place.

Then, getting my change back from the guy after each drink purchase was like pulling teeth. Each time the moron was obviously hoping I would forget that I had change coming back. He would avoid my table and I would have to get up and walk over to him to get my change after an excessive amount of time had passed.

Even the girl sitting at my table warned me that the waiter was a ratero (crook).

I don't plan on going back to Conojitos. There are too many alternative clubs where the waiters don't try to screw you at every opportunity. It's just not worth it.

Adios Amigos!

[The Sex Hunter]

Hi Urban Wildlife!

I only spend a short weekend (2 nights) in PV. I stayed at the Sheraton Hotel. I only had 1 night where I could go out and spent time looking for some fun. I wanted to see where I can find the local mexican girls first. I checked out the malecon area but found nothing else as tourists. Than I was looking for jouniors but I didn't found it. I wanted to go there to get some action going on. I didn't know that it is possible to take out girls from places like mirage so I didn't go there. During the day I was allways busy and on my second night I could not stay out long because I had to get up very early to go to the airport. I realy loved the time in PV and I will be there again but nextime I will spend more than 2 weeks there because it's a great place.

About pics: I tried twice to make fotos from pros but they always got angry when I pulled out the camera and asked them if I can make a picture. What is the secret to get them in the ambiance for foto-time?

Thank you for your great report! Now I know where to go on my next PV trip!

[UrbanWildlife]

Since you stated you have been in Puerto Vallarta, please make a field report of your experiences and post some pics. Share with us, where you stayed, what places you partied in, the prices, etc.

I am waiting for your complete field report!

[UrbanWildlife]

Lower end places:

The most well known lower end puta place in Puerto Vallarta is Las Alazenas. The location has been mentioned many times on this thread. There are 3 other puta bars, Stravaganza, Cadillac (I believe it still goes by this name), and a new place that opened up that for years housed a puta bar called Tren. They are all basically next door to each other, or across the street from each other.

Even though Stravaganza and Cadillac can get expensive, the good thing about these places is it is easy to get the girls to go with you after closing, or to set up dates for the next day without breaking the bank. At Las Alazenas you can get girls to go with you for 24 hours for as little as one hundred dollars. To get service on premises it is usually only $40. to $50.00 dollars. Ladies drinks are 4 or 5 dollars compared to the high end strip clubs where you are paying a minimum of $15.00 dollars. Generally there are about 15 putas sitting around or up against the wall as you enter, and quality varies from day to day, with weekends being the best. The place is totally dead until about 11:30pm. In this bar you are sure to have a Mexican cultural bar experience.

Another place I like to go to, and is very reasonable, is in an area I believe is called “Aurora”. There are 2 bars across from each other, one is call Mari Tierra, which is a large Mexican cantina with delicious free appetizers. They have approximately 6 normal waitresses working that generally are very attractive. I have on several occasions made dates with them for the next day, or on there day off. Beer prices are $1.50 for a Pacifico or Corona.

Directly across the street from Mari Tierra is a bar that I can never remember the name of, but it is a small Mexican cantina that has a juke box for music, and has several freelancers hanging out in it or working there as waitresses. It has been known to be a fun place, where after a few tequilas or several beers, you might find yourself dancing between the tables with a chica you are enjoying a drink with. These two bars are about a 3 minute taxi ride from the bars I spoke of at the beginning of this post. If you were on the road for example heading to the airport, you would take a right by the OXXO convenience store, and the La Paloma bull right, and go about a mile and half down the road and take a right. Approximately a block away you would run into these two bars. It is very easy to locate them, and most taxis know Mari Tierra. Again the drink prices are the same as in Mari Tierra.

Another local bar you might want to checkout that is a normal bar with good prices, is called "The Cantina". It is located in downtown Puerto Vallarta, on the street above the Malecon. It is a very popular bar for local Mexican girls, and it gets to be quite busy on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights. Drink prices are capable to the bars I spoke of above. Things get going here after 10:30pm. All taxi drivers know where it is at. This area of the city is filled with bars/discos/ and a couple of Karoeke bars that cater to both the local Mexican crowd, as well as the tourists.

The bar called “The Rodeo" is filled with Mexican locals, and actually has live banda music on Friday and Saturday nights. It is located in Pitillal. The music is excellent, but there is a $10.00 cover charge, but it will be filled with girls. On Thursday nights they have a tonga contest where girls enter into a contest and strip down to there g-string. Again this is a bar that does not get going until 10:30 for the most part. It is probably the most popular disco for local Mexican people. You might find you are the only gringo in the place, because of it being located in Pitillal, but it is very secure, and is actually a very nice place. The only thing I do not like about it is the fact most people sit down at tables. I am one who likes to move about, and never sits. My preference is to stand at the bar.

A disco bar that plays all types of music that is a favorite among the Mexican girls is called JB’s Disco. It is located a short distance from the strip club “Prestige” but on the other side of the street. Drink prices are reasonable, the music by a DJ is great, and it is a nice place from time to time to checkout to see what is going on. I have seen some real cuties in this place.

Rolex: Rolex is a stripclub that is located about 15 to 20 minutes from downtown Puerto Vallarta and pass the airport. The quality can be very good at times. It is a similar to the higher end strip clubs, but again it can be worthwhile to stop in, speak to some of the girls, and possibly set something up for later.

Hotel Erendira is located at Naranjo just south of Aquilles Serdan in the city of Puerto Vallarta. Freelancers hangout around here generally from 7 to 9pm but it is hit and miss. Your best bet is to walk around in this area and if they are out, they will find you.

Las Antorches has been mentioned on here many times, and is strictly a daytime bar with putas working inside with rooms in back. It is located across the street from where the ships dock. Prices again are reasonable for drinks, and your negotiating skills can get you a puta for $40. dollars. I am not sure if you can ever find a quality girl in this place. I have been to it quite possibly 15 times, and all the putas are old, fat, or both!

Mambos Cafe: I want to mention this place for anyone who is going to be taking a girl out on a date, and wants to impress them with a super good time. This is a latin salsa nightclub located near the Marina that has salsa bands. I have traveled the world over, and this is one of my favorite places. You will see some awesome salsa dancers, who are just normal people out enjoying themselves. The bands that play come from around the world. You might even want to hit the large dance floor yourself!. You will find couples dancing in the walkways before the night is over. The place does not get going until 11pm, and is only open Thursday through Saturdays.

In closing this post for now, I should point out that frequenting these local cantinas, discos, you really should have some knowledge and speaking ability of the Spanish language, or have a spanish speaking person with you. I do have a english speaking friend who is a taxi driver, I would highly recommend you use, if you are interested in going to any of these places I posted about. His fees are very fair, he has a nice air conditioned car with satellite radio, and most of all he knows a lot of the girls who hangout in these bars that he can introduce you to. He can also do your negotiating for you in the puta bars. Most importantly he is a super good and honest guy, who will help provide you a great time. I am sure if you read ISG member Rain Maker’s post, you will see what I am talking about. It is post number #284. Also send a p.m to ISG member Loco Mojjo and I can assure you he will provide you with a excellent recommendation of my friend. He used him just last month. If you are interested in using his services contact me via p.m., and I will provide you his contact information, or contact him myself on your behalf.

As I stated in my previous post, I am off to Colombia for 3 weeks on April 22nd, so if anyone will be there during this period of time get in touch with me. I will be returning to Puerto Vallarta approximately the first week in June, so again if anyone wants to have a cold beer send me a p.m. for contact information.

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[The Sex Hunter]

Gentlemen,

I was ones down the malecon and a guy waked up to me and offert me some fake silver souvenir shit. I told him that i'm not interested in it. Than he ask me if I am interested in something else maybe. I ask the old guy what else he has. Than he asked me if I want to have a girl for 1 night. I told him that this sounds ways better then the tourist shit he tryed to sell first. Than he offert me 1 girl for about 100 USD for 1 night. I asked him about how old the girl was. He said he has beautiful girls from age 18+. I denialed his offer because I had no time. It was my last day in PV.

What you guys think about such an offer? I was ones somewhere in the caribe and a guy how tried to sell cigars first came up also which such an offer. He wanted 250USD per night so I told him to get out of my few. The chics in the clubs where ways cheaper there!

[John Dough]

UrbanWildlife, I totally agree with you about the crazy prices at the high end strip clubs. However, I have found the quality to be consistently good. One thing on offer that I have not found in the U.S. is $20 lap dances with touching not only allowed, but encouraged.

I appreciate you writing about the lower end clubs. I am trying to get an idea of where they are located, for the next time I visit Vallarta. Having reviewed the recent posts, I discovered that in post #295 Nauskas actually made a map of where to find Las Alazenas and Stravaganza. I also found in post #311 DukePV gave good directions to Conejita's and El y Ella. Does anybody know of a low end club in the old town area?

[UrbanWildlife]

If anyone goes to these places that J. Dough listed below, make sure you have an interest in a bank because you are going to need it! These are all high end strip clubs with $10. to $20.00 dollar cover charges, and basically the same price structure you would find in the higher end strip clubs in the United States. Drink prices for putas is approximately $15.00 per drink and a bottle of beer will run you about $5. to $6.00 dollars for yourself. Price range to take a puta out of these places is approximately $250. to $300. dollars on the average, and this is only for an hour or two. To get a private show in the club figure on $100.00 for approximately 20 to 30 minutes max. There are several more of this types of clubs, that J. Dough does not have on his list, including a Hysteria II that is located in the building that previously hosted the disco Chic, very close to Farmacia Guadalajara.

Guys there are much better places to spend your hard earned money than at high end places like these, or PV Playmates, the escort service whose pricing structure is $250. to $400.00 for one or two hours, as Winston pointed out in his post # 324.

I am off to put a singles tour together in Colombia, departing on April 22nd for 3 weeks. If anyone is going to be in the Cartagena/Barranquilla/Santa Marta area, send me a p.m. I really have some beautiful non-pros lined up, and of course I am willing to share! I will be returning to Puerto Vallarta the first week in June.