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06-08-08 03:18 #296
Posts: 30Originally Posted by Negro562
A dominican mother would never tell her child anything like that. I never said that. Dominican women take care of all the children. I respect them.
I never said that the girls were not out there doing it and lieing to people.
What I am saying is everyone knows. Everyone knows. Just like like the girls know your a pimp. You get $$. They get $$. Your NOT doing this to help your fellow gringo. Without getting paid. Or either are your "girls".
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06-07-08 15:51 #295
Posts: 8Tits N Toes
Thanks a whole lot for the information. I tried to send you a PM with my questions, however I dont believe you have that function working.
The PRO action in the casino is encouraging, kind of like a little built in candy shop, which will be needed because I dont thinks that these normal girls will hit the sack on a first date. As far as a regular girl it is my intention and maybe just a dream to actually settle down with somebody.
I have no intentions of hurting anybody in anyway. It's hard to get a clear reading on these girls because they seem to be possesive.I am a grown man and I am realistic. I do realize that they want an opportunity to expand there lives however the girls that I am talking with are genuinely sweet people, I dont think it's all an act.
You are correct that the key with the ladies is a knowledge of Spanish, mine is OK at best, although it has gotten better since my steady communication began. I'm actually honing my language skills with some private tudoring now before I arrive later this month.
Everything is pointing towards the presence of nice, sweet, sexy, educated normal girls in Santiago, if that is what you are looking for I have a good feeling it's the place to check out. I do know that this board is mostly geared toward P4P, so to those I do apologize for going on and on about this subject.
If nobody opposes I will post both my PRO and NON-PRO experiences once I get back.
Thanks!
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06-07-08 15:22 #294
Posts: 220I agree 100% with the report and will add my recent experiences at the same Hotel. Fridays is open. There is a nice gym at the Hotel just behind the pool. I have stayed three times in th past four months for several days. The first two trips I was with the same girl for a few days. I was on the 5th floor "Club" level key access etc. No problems, they check the girls ID and all was great. As to the cost for this floor it is not cheap and it is not worth the extra money.
I love the Hotel over all and will go back. I did run into a little problem on my last trip in May. Same floor etc. but after two nights I changed girls for the next two nights. Went to sign her in and was told that there was a new policy that you could not change names (girls) etc. and be on this floor. I was pissed! For what I was paying I should be able to have an orgy if I wanted. I calmed down and said no problem I understand. I said I wanted to check out now 4 nights early and that I was going to the Marriott. I was asked to please wait. In 5 min. the Manager was there. She explained the new policy....and I explained I was leaving. She said she had a Jr. Suit on the 3rd floor that I would like, was cheaper and she would show me the room to see if I liked it. I did not problem.
During my stay I never had a problem during the day with security. At night I was stopped a couple of times so they could check the girls ID to see that she was registered to my room etc. I should also add that the girls were always dressed up and they did not stand out from any of the other guests there. No heavy make up etc. I stayed for two more nights with the girl I had arranged and then checked out and went to the Marriott.
I went to the Marriott and stayed in the Presidential Suite (the only suite they have) because I had scheduled two girls for the last two nights and did not want any problems with checking them in etc. I have stayed at the Marriott 8 or more times in the past 18 months and know most of the staff and like the place. I have changed girls there daily before. They make a copy of the girls ID I sign saying I am responsible etc.
In my experience if you and your lady friend(s) are quiet, respectfull and dressed well you will decrease the odds of having any problems.
I will be returning to Santiago in late July (25th) for 3-4 days and 7-8 days at Blackbeards.
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06-06-08 20:34 #293
Posts: 14Hodelpa (both Gran Almirante & Centro Plaza)
Girl Hunter Sorry for the Delay... (I always start with IMHO and YMMV but here's MY take on the HODELPA'S)
Centro Plaza is on El Sol a few blocks south of the Monumento de Restauracion (maybe 8 or 9 blocks)
Prices are between $98.00 USD to $145.00 (more for a Large Suite) depending on HOW you book, WHEN etc. Rooms have AC/HW/Mini bar-fridge that you get a key for with no charge (unless you lose it).
I brought in the SAME girl for 3 days in and out without a second look.
I saw Gringos with (and this is not a Dis but most guys will understand) More PRO looking girls (HEAVY makeup, Scantily clad etc) but I didn't see them hassled either.
Gran Almirante I stayed there twice...Enjoyed both times...There is/was construction of what I think is going to be a "FRIDAY'S" next door so I think the area is coming up.
Rooms are $118.00 to $3-400 for top suites with concierge service...I stayed 2 different times for around $140.00 usd. Breakfast is good and they'll SOMETIMES give you vouchers but you have to INSIST when you book.
The Casino has PROS that mill about and gamble...just strike up a conversation after you observe eye contact and body language OR someone dressed like (come F*ck me)...There is always a Security guy at the door that leads from Casino to Inside the Hotel (at the Restaurant side) and I don't know if they'll let you through with a PRO...but if you get to know the DESK people...I think it would be better to walk out of the Casino STREET exit and then back into the main lobby, give a lil' wave to the desk and be on your way.
One night a female Mgr on Duty made me come down to get my girl who I had been with for more than one day...I came down and asked her why and she "claimed" that the FLOOR security guys wouldn't have let her up...Who Knows...but I haven't had any MAJOR problems.
I'm actually curious as to what would happen if you showed up with a different PRO nightly...
I would stay at The Gran Almirante AND Centro Plaza again...BUT as I previously posted I found some MEAGER (3500 DOP a week accomadations and no longer WANT to spend $140-160 usd when I can get along with Hot water/a bed and not much else...lol)
I actually like Blackjack 21 and do visit the Gran Almirante everytime I'm there...he ganado cada vez.
I said YMMV in ALL of these matters AND I'm a Santiago OPTIMIST so because I found cool stuff it's hard to EVER have a bad word to say...it's my personality as well but the girls and experiences have been VERY positive for me.
If your into fitness there is a gym nearby (you could actually walk if you wanted 10-15 minutes) Golds is in Centro Plaza for 250 dop a day (which strangely enough is nowhere near DOWNTOWN centro)
McDonalds and KFC are within walking distance and a Grocery Store for regular supplies.
If your Spanish is decent you'll have a ball, adopt a taxista (meaning use the same one every trip) and you may get extra info/tips...they all line up on the Casino Side of the Hotel.
Enjoy, Be smart, Be safe!
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06-03-08 18:23 #292
Posts: 8On My Way To Santiago!
Guys I hope I could get a little help. I am not a NEWBIE to this site, in fact I have been a member since 2004, at that time Jackson needed to upgrade the server and split the USA site from the International site. I in turn lost my original name, I am a senior member on the USA site, my name there is Member # 2970.
I have been trolling around Chicago for over 25 years, I have actually seen the action almost disappear over here, but I was able to hang on to a couple of good regulars while in between girlfriends.
I have read the Santiago thread and pretty much see that there is not much obvious action with the exception of a couple of clubs and the carwashes, that's fine because I made friends with some attractive ladies through the web who all live in or around Santiago, hopefully I will get in some P4P during some dry time with these girls, I anticipate some down time.
Tit N Toes, I read that you were at the Holdelpa Gran Almirante, how girl friendly are they? Are there an ok presence of working girls around the casino? I realize that the place is pricey, but would you stay there again? Keep in mind this is my first trip down there.
If anyone else can give me some pointers I would appreciate it. I am looking foward to contributing to this thread when I get back home.
Thanks!
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06-02-08 04:16 #291
Posts: 20David and Negro seem to agree here
Originally Posted by David_33
David is correct, most women who do sex work wouldn't broadcast that fact. Even Elliott Spitzer's jump-off didn't tell her family how she could afford that fab lifestyle. So even though a woman may not be telling the 10 y.o. "sweety mommy sucked dick like a champ to get you these Air Jordans," grandma probably figured out that being a hairdresser/hotel waitress is not paying $800-1000 USD per week in the DR. But "ask me no questions, I tell you no lies."
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06-02-08 01:57 #290
Posts: 3074The Latin American saying "eyes don´t see, hearts don´t feel" (sounds better in Spanish), doesn´t only apply to wives who as long as their husband´s extra curricular activities aren´t in their faces tend to pretend that nothing is happening can also be related to families with girls who are doing P4P in another town. They know what´s going on, but would never admit or speak about it.
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06-01-08 20:37 #289
Posts: 196Originally Posted by James Zz
Yes I have. Let me clear something up for you partner. You will never be exposed to the DR the way that i am. I see a lot more of what is going on here than you. I know what I am talking about because I know people from all walks of life here. I know the rich rich to the poor poor and what I am saying is what is happening here.
Now, maybe because you have visited the DR a few times you believe you know what you are talking about but, let me assure you, you are being mislead. Some of these girls are out here doing there thing and lying to people about it.
Please explain to me how a woman looks her child in the tens and tells him that she just sucked ten dicks to buy him the new air jordans?
No, as far as thinking Dominicans are stupid, I never said that. If I believed they were so dumb I am pretty sure I would not be living here. I am sorry that we believe differently but hey, this is life. We can do that.
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06-01-08 00:42 #288
Posts: 30Originally Posted by Negro562
I am surprised someone like you who lives there would say something like this. Is is total BS. You think dominicans are stupid. They know exactly whats going on. The young pretty daughter, sister, gf, wife goes "away" for school, work, etc then comes back with wads of cash. The family takes the money and the girl goes out again. The family put pressure on the girls to take care of the family. Don't be fooled by young sweet dominican girls. There are very smart and great actors. For the majority its all for the family. I respect it. Yet I always know where I stand. Ever meet a nice DR girl that asks for less each time you see her.
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05-31-08 03:44 #287
Posts: 247Tits and toes
In general, that was a great post.
I enjoyed the overall point you were trying to make in regards to unnecessary flaming (not saying berthold was doing this) on forums. And meeting non pros in DR.
I also find that Dominican women are VERY easy going compared to others once you sit, chat with them and treat them well.
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05-27-08 08:44 #286
Posts: 520Originally Posted by Tits N Toes
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05-27-08 04:18 #285
Posts: 14Ymmv
Berthold,
I'm not new to traveling, mongering or dating. I'm not walking around with some huge ego either. And I don't know you from Adam but I'm not too keen on being told I'm inaccurate. If where I stayed mattered I would have posted that.
If what I had mattered I would have posted that as well.
Truth is I have been with all levels of girls from Camp David to La Joya and I know more about Santiago than I can leave in a post.
If you've had bad experiences I understand but don't crap on mine because those girls in SUV's look NO better than the girls who ride in taxistas or conchos or on the back of a moto. Neither are those SUV girls unapproachable. That’s a JADED perspective and I haven’t been treated like that AT ALL.
I have been to different barrios and have Dominican dudes I trust who can find me easy chicas too if and when I want. My first trip to the DR was on the advice of two Dominican brothers that live near me here in the states. They hooked me up with their relatives so that I was able to jump in feet first RIGHT AWAY.
I know genuine virgins who are very protected by their parents waiting for my return. Of course they desire that I treat their daughters with respect and I intend to but I have no disillusionment with me. There is a lil’ bit of work involved.
I also know gold-diggers who report on their stupid Euro or American gringo cash cows.
There are girls who could be in videos working in La Sirena who could care LESS about an SUV.
When I'm in a new barrio NOONE has a clue that I'm not Dominican UNTIL AFTER we have a conversation and they notice my accent is a little different. Even then they think I have a Dominican parent or something. I can pass for Dominican and even when I lived in NYC I lived in Washington Heights which is 78% or more Dominican. THEY couldn’t tell just by looking at me either.
I carry myself with respect and I pay attention to what's cool and what's not cool. I blend in and learn some cultural nuances. I make friends VERY easily because I'm sincere and not in the DR just to look for the next set of spread legs. I just like the place. The women are a bonus.
I want to ENCOURAGE men who want to meet available women who are not even CLOSE to being hookers to FIRST learn decent Spanish and then just GO to one of the many universities and strike up a conversation. You will be rewarded in time with a girl that will look out for your MIND, Body and Soul.
There are PLENTY of MARRIED Ex-pats in the DR who are a testament to their being available women in ALL parts of the DR. I just have an affinity for Santiago/La Vega.
Women are women worldwide. And I have had women in Thailand, Norway, Mexico, Canada, The Philippines, Japan, Kazakhstan, Singapore, Colombia and all throughout the US.
Dominican girls can be very jealous if you are sloppy so I treat them like they are ALL my one and only.
I show my trip photos to my friends and they are WOWED by how beautiful these girls are COUPLED with the tales I have of how COOL they are. I don’t show regular girls I’m dealing with on this forum because there are some weirdos with weird habits on here. Stealing photos and making up stories etc. I’ve seen this stuff OFTEN in these forums. I come here to enjoy what others have experienced and don’t have a negative word to say to anyone UNLESS provoked.
I stated in another post that I am new to POSTING but not to the experience.
I've read ALMOST ALL of the Colombia, Brazil and DR forums. Back to 2004 for all of them, both for their city reports and photo galleries. DR because I've been, Colombia because I've been and Brazil because I want to go. I have noticed however that there are guys who like to chirp in unnecessarily with some unmerited and uninvited opinion that doesn’t add to the truth but only draws an ugly picture. The DR is not ugly when you are invited around.
I've noticed the community is full of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. So I don’t take personally that you felt the need to voice YOUR view on things, but I want to set MY PERSONAL record straight and I LOVE the DR and I ENJOYED Barranquilla in spite of the reports of others.
Flaming on how much guys spend when it's their money. Or the silly argument of driving up prices. Or showing/ not showing faces. Or Barebacking. I wish you naysayers would mind your own business as Everyone’s experience is going to be different depending on MANY factors. Rich or Poor. Handsome or Shrek-like. Fluent or walking with a pocket translator. I've sat at more than one dinner and talked about cultural differences and in my estimation the biggest Snafu foreigners make is that your money or status matters to EVERYONE.
You can't buy ALL of these girls but they will love you if you are genuine.
They do not ALL seek the sex trade as a means. Have you ever REALLY looked at how neat they are in their various uniforms. McDonalds or wherever they work at the Plaza or elsewhere, they are PROUD of their jobs and CONTENT with living their lives IN the DR. They don't need some arrogant foreigner who thinks he's doing them a favor by taking them OUT of the DR to sit in a half million-dollar house BORED to death.
YMMV and mine has been VERY rewarding so the whole "get real" thing was unnecessary. I usually ignore this kind of stuff especially from veteran mongerers but simply put. YOU don’t know a thing about MY experiences so keep your comments to yourself. If Santiago is not for you do YOUR thing, but don’t flame in my direction because I only wish for you and the other guys here to have a good time doing things in their own way without petty criticism from one another.
I am posting pics of 2 different girls and I at different times. The girl in the denim skirt is in school for Hotel Administration and the girl in the white has her own Beauty Salon. NEITHER has hooked a day in their lives with HUGE families that know all their business. I stayed at the Hodelpa Centro Plaza with the girl in the denim skirt and at the Hodelpa Gran Almirante with the girl in white. So I don’t HAVE to stay cheap but what difference does it make if I’m having just as much fun in a low budget place. If you KNOW Santiago you can look in the pics and know that I was genuinely there because I can’t fake the Aguilas Memorial.
I will reiterate that Santiago is a GOLD MINE for a HUGE variety of looks and vibes but the Universal law stands true that YourMileageMayVary!
Happy Mongering to each and everyone.
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05-26-08 18:53 #284
Posts: 520Let`s get real
[QUOTE=Tits N Toes]
If a Dominican girl is not in a committed relationship she IS available.
These girls really just like the difference in attitude with foreigners. Dominican guys are used to them and MOST treat them very "dime a dozen-ish".
I meet regular girls and put the time in for future engagements.
You have no chance to meet a decent girl anywhere in santiago. The upper class girls are not looking for a foreigner. They are happy with their own SUVs.
These girls are not going out with some guy who is staying in some local hotel and driving around town in taxis.
You have to live here, having a successful business or a good job to be even considered by these girls.
These girls are constantly invited by rich handsome guys who own late model SUVs and live in very nice neighourhoods.
You met who everybody meets who is going to stay a week in Santiago barrio girls or semi hookers.
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05-26-08 03:57 #283
Posts: 294Yes, its girl friendly.
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05-25-08 16:53 #282
Posts: 6Girl Friendly Hotel Santiago
Does anyone know if Hotel Platino is girl friendly?