Santiago

[Girl Hunter]

Thanks a whole lot for the information. I tried to send you a PM with my questions, however I dont believe you have that function working.

The PRO action in the casino is encouraging, kind of like a little built in candy shop, which will be needed because I dont thinks that these normal girls will hit the sack on a first date. As far as a regular girl it is my intention and maybe just a dream to actually settle down with somebody.

I have no intentions of hurting anybody in anyway. It's hard to get a clear reading on these girls because they seem to be possesive.I am a grown man and I am realistic. I do realize that they want an opportunity to expand there lives however the girls that I am talking with are genuinely sweet people, I dont think it's all an act.

You are correct that the key with the ladies is a knowledge of Spanish, mine is OK at best, although it has gotten better since my steady communication began. I'm actually honing my language skills with some private tudoring now before I arrive later this month.

Everything is pointing towards the presence of nice, sweet, sexy, educated normal girls in Santiago, if that is what you are looking for I have a good feeling it's the place to check out. I do know that this board is mostly geared toward P4P, so to those I do apologize for going on and on about this subject.

If nobody opposes I will post both my PRO and NON-PRO experiences once I get back.

Thanks!

[Traveler04]

I agree 100% with the report and will add my recent experiences at the same Hotel. Fridays is open. There is a nice gym at the Hotel just behind the pool. I have stayed three times in th past four months for several days. The first two trips I was with the same girl for a few days. I was on the 5th floor "Club" level key access etc. No problems, they check the girls ID and all was great. As to the cost for this floor it is not cheap and it is not worth the extra money.

I love the Hotel over all and will go back. I did run into a little problem on my last trip in May. Same floor etc. but after two nights I changed girls for the next two nights. Went to sign her in and was told that there was a new policy that you could not change names (girls) etc. and be on this floor. I was pissed! For what I was paying I should be able to have an orgy if I wanted. I calmed down and said no problem I understand. I said I wanted to check out now 4 nights early and that I was going to the Marriott. I was asked to please wait. In 5 min. the Manager was there. She explained the new policy....and I explained I was leaving. She said she had a Jr. Suit on the 3rd floor that I would like, was cheaper and she would show me the room to see if I liked it. I did not problem.

During my stay I never had a problem during the day with security. At night I was stopped a couple of times so they could check the girls ID to see that she was registered to my room etc. I should also add that the girls were always dressed up and they did not stand out from any of the other guests there. No heavy make up etc. I stayed for two more nights with the girl I had arranged and then checked out and went to the Marriott.

I went to the Marriott and stayed in the Presidential Suite (the only suite they have) because I had scheduled two girls for the last two nights and did not want any problems with checking them in etc. I have stayed at the Marriott 8 or more times in the past 18 months and know most of the staff and like the place. I have changed girls there daily before. They make a copy of the girls ID I sign saying I am responsible etc.

In my experience if you and your lady friend(s) are quiet, respectfull and dressed well you will decrease the odds of having any problems.

I will be returning to Santiago in late July (25th) for 3-4 days and 7-8 days at Blackbeards.

[Tits N Toes]

Girl Hunter Sorry for the Delay... (I always start with IMHO and YMMV but here's MY take on the HODELPA'S)

Centro Plaza is on El Sol a few blocks south of the Monumento de Restauracion (maybe 8 or 9 blocks)

Prices are between $98.00 USD to $145.00 (more for a Large Suite) depending on HOW you book, WHEN etc. Rooms have AC/HW/Mini bar-fridge that you get a key for with no charge (unless you lose it).

I brought in the SAME girl for 3 days in and out without a second look.

I saw Gringos with (and this is not a Dis but most guys will understand) More PRO looking girls (HEAVY makeup, Scantily clad etc) but I didn't see them hassled either.

Gran Almirante I stayed there twice...Enjoyed both times...There is/was construction of what I think is going to be a "FRIDAY'S" next door so I think the area is coming up.

Rooms are $118.00 to $3-400 for top suites with concierge service...I stayed 2 different times for around $140.00 usd. Breakfast is good and they'll SOMETIMES give you vouchers but you have to INSIST when you book.

The Casino has PROS that mill about and gamble...just strike up a conversation after you observe eye contact and body language OR someone dressed like (come F*ck me)...There is always a Security guy at the door that leads from Casino to Inside the Hotel (at the Restaurant side) and I don't know if they'll let you through with a PRO...but if you get to know the DESK people...I think it would be better to walk out of the Casino STREET exit and then back into the main lobby, give a lil' wave to the desk and be on your way.

One night a female Mgr on Duty made me come down to get my girl who I had been with for more than one day...I came down and asked her why and she "claimed" that the FLOOR security guys wouldn't have let her up...Who Knows...but I haven't had any MAJOR problems.

I'm actually curious as to what would happen if you showed up with a different PRO nightly...

I would stay at The Gran Almirante AND Centro Plaza again...BUT as I previously posted I found some MEAGER (3500 DOP a week accomadations and no longer WANT to spend $140-160 usd when I can get along with Hot water/a bed and not much else...lol)

I actually like Blackjack 21 and do visit the Gran Almirante everytime I'm there...he ganado cada vez.

I said YMMV in ALL of these matters AND I'm a Santiago OPTIMIST so because I found cool stuff it's hard to EVER have a bad word to say...it's my personality as well but the girls and experiences have been VERY positive for me.

If your into fitness there is a gym nearby (you could actually walk if you wanted 10-15 minutes) Golds is in Centro Plaza for 250 dop a day (which strangely enough is nowhere near DOWNTOWN centro)

McDonalds and KFC are within walking distance and a Grocery Store for regular supplies.

If your Spanish is decent you'll have a ball, adopt a taxista (meaning use the same one every trip) and you may get extra info/tips...they all line up on the Casino Side of the Hotel.

Enjoy, Be smart, Be safe!

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[Girl Hunter]

Guys I hope I could get a little help. I am not a NEWBIE to this site, in fact I have been a member since 2004, at that time Jackson needed to upgrade the server and split the USA site from the International site. I in turn lost my original name, I am a senior member on the USA site, my name there is Member # 2970.

I have been trolling around Chicago for over 25 years, I have actually seen the action almost disappear over here, but I was able to hang on to a couple of good regulars while in between girlfriends.

I have read the Santiago thread and pretty much see that there is not much obvious action with the exception of a couple of clubs and the carwashes, that's fine because I made friends with some attractive ladies through the web who all live in or around Santiago, hopefully I will get in some P4P during some dry time with these girls, I anticipate some down time.

Tit N Toes, I read that you were at the Holdelpa Gran Almirante, how girl friendly are they? Are there an ok presence of working girls around the casino? I realize that the place is pricey, but would you stay there again? Keep in mind this is my first trip down there.

If anyone else can give me some pointers I would appreciate it. I am looking foward to contributing to this thread when I get back home.

Thanks!

[Reconnoiter]

The Latin American saying "eyes don´t see, hearts don´t feel" (sounds better in Spanish), doesn´t only apply to wives who as long as their husband´s extra curricular activities aren´t in their faces tend to pretend that nothing is happening can also be related to families with girls who are doing P4P in another town. They know what´s going on, but would never admit or speak about it.

Seems to me you guys are both right. Many women, anywhere in the world, are looking to get more (emotionally/economically) from a man as the relationship progresses. Just like many men are looking to get more (sexually/emotionally) as the relationship progresses. There are exceptions as Negro points out, esp. when a woman is not motivated by the short-term to be as aggressive as she is when she has a foreigner that is only in town for two weeks/two months at a time.

David is correct, most women who do sex work wouldn't broadcast that fact. Even Elliott Spitzer's jump-off didn't tell her family how she could afford that fab lifestyle. So even though a woman may not be telling the 10 y.o. "sweety mommy sucked dick like a champ to get you these Air Jordans," grandma probably figured out that being a hairdresser/hotel waitress is not paying $800-1000 USD per week in the DR. But "ask me no questions, I tell you no lies."

[Member #4351]

The Latin American saying "eyes don´t see, hearts don´t feel" (sounds better in Spanish), doesn´t only apply to wives who as long as their husband´s extra curricular activities aren´t in their faces tend to pretend that nothing is happening can also be related to families with girls who are doing P4P in another town. They know what´s going on, but would never admit or speak about it.

[Negro562]

"You have to understand, the large majority of the girls that are in Sosua working families have no idea what they are doing. "

I am surprised someone like you who lives there would say something like this. Is is total BS. You think dominicans are stupid. They know exactly whats going on. The young pretty daughter, sister, gf, wife goes "away" for school, work, etc then comes back with wads of cash. The family takes the money and the girl goes out again. The family put pressure on the girls to take care of the family. Don't be fooled by young sweet dominican girls. There are very smart and great actors. For the majority its all for the family. I respect it. Yet I always know where I stand. Ever meet a nice DR girl that asks for less each time you see her.

Yes I have. Let me clear something up for you partner. You will never be exposed to the DR the way that i am. I see a lot more of what is going on here than you. I know what I am talking about because I know people from all walks of life here. I know the rich rich to the poor poor and what I am saying is what is happening here.

Now, maybe because you have visited the DR a few times you believe you know what you are talking about but, let me assure you, you are being mislead. Some of these girls are out here doing there thing and lying to people about it.

Please explain to me how a woman looks her child in the tens and tells him that she just sucked ten dicks to buy him the new air jordans?

No, as far as thinking Dominicans are stupid, I never said that. If I believed they were so dumb I am pretty sure I would not be living here. I am sorry that we believe differently but hey, this is life. We can do that.

[James Zz]

The reason is Santiago does not work like that. The working girls here live with their families and their reputations are more in question here.

You have to understand, the large majority of the girls that are in Sosua working families have no idea what they are doing. Most of them tell their families that they are in Puerto Plata or Santo Dominigo doing other kind of work or going to school. Therefore, when they are in Santiago they do not at like the women act in those tourist towns. However, the girls still are looking for every opportunity to get them some money.

Now to answer one of your questions, "Is there a place where a newbie could go and pick up a ST or TLN in fifteen minutes?" The answer to that question is not really. In Santiago, if you are not going to the Car Washes or the strip clubs you stand a chance in hell of making that happen. Especially if you can't speak spanish. However, there are places that you can go and if you are willing to put in the TIME you can have some success.

If you want to try your luck as a newbie in Santiago I would suggest that you go and do a little gambling in one of the casinos. YOU HAVE TO DO SOME GAMBLING THOUGH. The reason being is the girls that are working the casinos in Santiago are also in there gambling. Hit the tables for a little while and you will see the girl doing their thing. Also, at night in most of the Casinos there are discos. Hit a disco. You might have to buy a couple of rounds but the working girls will show themselves and you can score you a good time.

Now, in a perfect world, the way to work the girls in Santiago is to meet one girl and she will turn you on to all her friends that are working. That is how the people that are having fun here do it. I know four or five girls that know all the girls that are working in Santiago. When my friends come to town I call the girls and they schedule a time and they come by with a selection and you just choose who you want to play with.

"You have to understand, the large majority of the girls that are in Sosua working families have no idea what they are doing. "

I am surprised someone like you who lives there would say something like this. Is is total BS. You think dominicans are stupid. They know exactly whats going on. The young pretty daughter, sister, gf, wife goes "away" for school, work, etc then comes back with wads of cash. The family takes the money and the girl goes out again. The family put pressure on the girls to take care of the family. Don't be fooled by young sweet dominican girls. There are very smart and great actors. For the majority its all for the family. I respect it. Yet I always know where I stand. Ever meet a nice DR girl that asks for less each time you see her.

[World Jockey]

Tits and toes

In general, that was a great post.

I enjoyed the overall point you were trying to make in regards to unnecessary flaming (not saying berthold was doing this) on forums. And meeting non pros in DR.

I also find that Dominican women are VERY easy going compared to others once you sit, chat with them and treat them well.

[Berthold]

Berthold,

I'm not new to traveling, mongering or dating. I'm not walking around with some huge ego either. And I don't know you from Adam but I'm not too keen on being told I'm inaccurate. If where I stayed mattered I would have posted that.

If what I had mattered I would have posted that as well.

Truth is I have been with all levels of girls from Camp David to La Joya and I know more about Santiago than I can leave in a post.

If you've had bad experiences I understand but don't crap on mine because those girls in SUV's look NO better than the girls who ride in taxistas or conchos or on the back of a moto. Neither are those SUV girls unapproachable. That’s a JADED perspective and I haven’t been treated like that AT ALL.

I have been to different barrios and have Dominican dudes I trust who can find me easy chicas too if and when I want. My first trip to the DR was on the advice of two Dominican brothers that live near me here in the states. They hooked me up with their relatives so that I was able to jump in feet first RIGHT AWAY.

I know genuine virgins who are very protected by their parents waiting for my return. Of course they desire that I treat their daughters with respect and I intend to but I have no disillusionment with me. There is a lil’ bit of work involved.

I also know gold-diggers who report on their stupid Euro or American gringo cash cows.

There are girls who could be in videos working in La Sirena who could care LESS about an SUV.

When I'm in a new barrio NOONE has a clue that I'm not Dominican UNTIL AFTER we have a conversation and they notice my accent is a little different. Even then they think I have a Dominican parent or something. I can pass for Dominican and even when I lived in NYC I lived in Washington Heights which is 78% or more Dominican. THEY couldn’t tell just by looking at me either.

I carry myself with respect and I pay attention to what's cool and what's not cool. I blend in and learn some cultural nuances. I make friends VERY easily because I'm sincere and not in the DR just to look for the next set of spread legs. I just like the place. The women are a bonus.

I want to ENCOURAGE men who want to meet available women who are not even CLOSE to being hookers to FIRST learn decent Spanish and then just GO to one of the many universities and strike up a conversation. You will be rewarded in time with a girl that will look out for your MIND, Body and Soul.

There are PLENTY of MARRIED Ex-pats in the DR who are a testament to their being available women in ALL parts of the DR. I just have an affinity for Santiago/La Vega.

Women are women worldwide. And I have had women in Thailand, Norway, Mexico, Canada, The Philippines, Japan, Kazakhstan, Singapore, Colombia and all throughout the US.

Dominican girls can be very jealous if you are sloppy so I treat them like they are ALL my one and only.

I show my trip photos to my friends and they are WOWED by how beautiful these girls are COUPLED with the tales I have of how COOL they are. I don’t show regular girls I’m dealing with on this forum because there are some weirdos with weird habits on here. Stealing photos and making up stories etc. I’ve seen this stuff OFTEN in these forums. I come here to enjoy what others have experienced and don’t have a negative word to say to anyone UNLESS provoked.

I stated in another post that I am new to POSTING but not to the experience.

I've read ALMOST ALL of the Colombia, Brazil and DR forums. Back to 2004 for all of them, both for their city reports and photo galleries. DR because I've been, Colombia because I've been and Brazil because I want to go. I have noticed however that there are guys who like to chirp in unnecessarily with some unmerited and uninvited opinion that doesn’t add to the truth but only draws an ugly picture. The DR is not ugly when you are invited around.

I've noticed the community is full of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. So I don’t take personally that you felt the need to voice YOUR view on things, but I want to set MY PERSONAL record straight and I LOVE the DR and I ENJOYED Barranquilla in spite of the reports of others.

Flaming on how much guys spend when it's their money. Or the silly argument of driving up prices. Or showing/ not showing faces. Or Barebacking. I wish you naysayers would mind your own business as Everyone’s experience is going to be different depending on MANY factors. Rich or Poor. Handsome or Shrek-like. Fluent or walking with a pocket translator. I've sat at more than one dinner and talked about cultural differences and in my estimation the biggest Snafu foreigners make is that your money or status matters to EVERYONE.

You can't buy ALL of these girls but they will love you if you are genuine.

They do not ALL seek the sex trade as a means. Have you ever REALLY looked at how neat they are in their various uniforms. McDonalds or wherever they work at the Plaza or elsewhere, they are PROUD of their jobs and CONTENT with living their lives IN the DR. They don't need some arrogant foreigner who thinks he's doing them a favor by taking them OUT of the DR to sit in a half million-dollar house BORED to death.

YMMV and mine has been VERY rewarding so the whole "get real" thing was unnecessary. I usually ignore this kind of stuff especially from veteran mongerers but simply put. YOU don’t know a thing about MY experiences so keep your comments to yourself. If Santiago is not for you do YOUR thing, but don’t flame in my direction because I only wish for you and the other guys here to have a good time doing things in their own way without petty criticism from one another.

I am posting pics of 2 different girls and I at different times. The girl in the denim skirt is in school for Hotel Administration and the girl in the white has her own Beauty Salon. NEITHER has hooked a day in their lives with HUGE families that know all their business. I stayed at the Hodelpa Centro Plaza with the girl in the denim skirt and at the Hodelpa Gran Almirante with the girl in white. So I don’t HAVE to stay cheap but what difference does it make if I’m having just as much fun in a low budget place. If you KNOW Santiago you can look in the pics and know that I was genuinely there because I can’t fake the Aguilas Memorial.

I will reiterate that Santiago is a GOLD MINE for a HUGE variety of looks and vibes but the Universal law stands true that YourMileageMayVary!

Happy Mongering to each and everyone.

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Well no flaming intended i simply disagree with your statement that when a dominican girl is not in a comitted realationship she is available. Girls from middle class or upper class families are simply not interested in a gringo or a tourist who just shows up for a week. From my experience ( i live and work in santo domingo) any woman that is worthwile won`t hitch up with you in a week no matter if you are fluent in spanish, handsome...

[Tits N Toes]

Berthold,

I'm not new to traveling, mongering or dating. I'm not walking around with some huge ego either. And I don't know you from Adam but I'm not too keen on being told I'm inaccurate. If where I stayed mattered I would have posted that.

If what I had mattered I would have posted that as well.

Truth is I have been with all levels of girls from Camp David to La Joya and I know more about Santiago than I can leave in a post.

If you've had bad experiences I understand but don't crap on mine because those girls in SUV's look NO better than the girls who ride in taxistas or conchos or on the back of a moto. Neither are those SUV girls unapproachable. That’s a JADED perspective and I haven’t been treated like that AT ALL.

I have been to different barrios and have Dominican dudes I trust who can find me easy chicas too if and when I want. My first trip to the DR was on the advice of two Dominican brothers that live near me here in the states. They hooked me up with their relatives so that I was able to jump in feet first RIGHT AWAY.

I know genuine virgins who are very protected by their parents waiting for my return. Of course they desire that I treat their daughters with respect and I intend to but I have no disillusionment with me. There is a lil’ bit of work involved.

I also know gold-diggers who report on their stupid Euro or American gringo cash cows.

There are girls who could be in videos working in La Sirena who could care LESS about an SUV.

When I'm in a new barrio NOONE has a clue that I'm not Dominican UNTIL AFTER we have a conversation and they notice my accent is a little different. Even then they think I have a Dominican parent or something. I can pass for Dominican and even when I lived in NYC I lived in Washington Heights which is 78% or more Dominican. THEY couldn’t tell just by looking at me either.

I carry myself with respect and I pay attention to what's cool and what's not cool. I blend in and learn some cultural nuances. I make friends VERY easily because I'm sincere and not in the DR just to look for the next set of spread legs. I just like the place. The women are a bonus.

I want to ENCOURAGE men who want to meet available women who are not even CLOSE to being hookers to FIRST learn decent Spanish and then just GO to one of the many universities and strike up a conversation. You will be rewarded in time with a girl that will look out for your MIND, Body and Soul.

There are PLENTY of MARRIED Ex-pats in the DR who are a testament to their being available women in ALL parts of the DR. I just have an affinity for Santiago/La Vega.

Women are women worldwide. And I have had women in Thailand, Norway, Mexico, Canada, The Philippines, Japan, Kazakhstan, Singapore, Colombia and all throughout the US.

Dominican girls can be very jealous if you are sloppy so I treat them like they are ALL my one and only.

I show my trip photos to my friends and they are WOWED by how beautiful these girls are COUPLED with the tales I have of how COOL they are. I don’t show regular girls I’m dealing with on this forum because there are some weirdos with weird habits on here. Stealing photos and making up stories etc. I’ve seen this stuff OFTEN in these forums. I come here to enjoy what others have experienced and don’t have a negative word to say to anyone UNLESS provoked.

I stated in another post that I am new to POSTING but not to the experience.

I've read ALMOST ALL of the Colombia, Brazil and DR forums. Back to 2004 for all of them, both for their city reports and photo galleries. DR because I've been, Colombia because I've been and Brazil because I want to go. I have noticed however that there are guys who like to chirp in unnecessarily with some unmerited and uninvited opinion that doesn’t add to the truth but only draws an ugly picture. The DR is not ugly when you are invited around.

I've noticed the community is full of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. So I don’t take personally that you felt the need to voice YOUR view on things, but I want to set MY PERSONAL record straight and I LOVE the DR and I ENJOYED Barranquilla in spite of the reports of others.

Flaming on how much guys spend when it's their money. Or the silly argument of driving up prices. Or showing/ not showing faces. Or Barebacking. I wish you naysayers would mind your own business as Everyone’s experience is going to be different depending on MANY factors. Rich or Poor. Handsome or Shrek-like. Fluent or walking with a pocket translator. I've sat at more than one dinner and talked about cultural differences and in my estimation the biggest Snafu foreigners make is that your money or status matters to EVERYONE.

You can't buy ALL of these girls but they will love you if you are genuine.

They do not ALL seek the sex trade as a means. Have you ever REALLY looked at how neat they are in their various uniforms. McDonalds or wherever they work at the Plaza or elsewhere, they are PROUD of their jobs and CONTENT with living their lives IN the DR. They don't need some arrogant foreigner who thinks he's doing them a favor by taking them OUT of the DR to sit in a half million-dollar house BORED to death.

YMMV and mine has been VERY rewarding so the whole "get real" thing was unnecessary. I usually ignore this kind of stuff especially from veteran mongerers but simply put. YOU don’t know a thing about MY experiences so keep your comments to yourself. If Santiago is not for you do YOUR thing, but don’t flame in my direction because I only wish for you and the other guys here to have a good time doing things in their own way without petty criticism from one another.

I am posting pics of 2 different girls and I at different times. The girl in the denim skirt is in school for Hotel Administration and the girl in the white has her own Beauty Salon. NEITHER has hooked a day in their lives with HUGE families that know all their business. I stayed at the Hodelpa Centro Plaza with the girl in the denim skirt and at the Hodelpa Gran Almirante with the girl in white. So I don’t HAVE to stay cheap but what difference does it make if I’m having just as much fun in a low budget place. If you KNOW Santiago you can look in the pics and know that I was genuinely there because I can’t fake the Aguilas Memorial.

I will reiterate that Santiago is a GOLD MINE for a HUGE variety of looks and vibes but the Universal law stands true that YourMileageMayVary!

Happy Mongering to each and everyone.

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[Berthold]

[QUOTE=Tits N Toes]
If a Dominican girl is not in a committed relationship she IS available.

These girls really just like the difference in attitude with foreigners. Dominican guys are used to them and MOST treat them very "dime a dozen-ish".

I meet regular girls and put the time in for future engagements.

You have no chance to meet a decent girl anywhere in santiago. The upper class girls are not looking for a foreigner. They are happy with their own SUVs.
These girls are not going out with some guy who is staying in some local hotel and driving around town in taxis.
You have to live here, having a successful business or a good job to be even considered by these girls.
These girls are constantly invited by rich handsome guys who own late model SUVs and live in very nice neighourhoods.
You met who everybody meets who is going to stay a week in Santiago barrio girls or semi hookers.

[Koki9290]

Yes, its girl friendly.

[Eltigre]

Does anyone know if Hotel Platino is girl friendly?

[Tits N Toes]

Was in Santiago for 7 days May 15th to May 22nd.

Flew into Santo Domingo as it was $180. 00 USD cheaper and caught the Metro Busline to Santiago. It was 250 pesos going and 260 coming back and I have no Idea why. Bus was very clean with AC Blasting. Sat next to a girl and chatted and got her e-mail for later. She was helping me with photo ideas as we were going past Mountainous scenery.

Stayed at a place called Alberto's Suites for 3500 pesos for the week.

Address is Calle Santomé Esq. (and) Vicente Estrella No. 23 809 971 6005

That's $110. 00 USD for a week. See pics. Couple of girls hangng outside I took as well. Noone I was with just relatives of the hotel workers.

Totally girl friendly with no extra, just chit chat with the guys there and they’ll help you with some ideas.

It was without air for that price with a ceiling fan over the bed and that was enough for me. BUT add 100 or so pesos per day with air (and you will need it, I'm unaffected by sweltering heat)

Also put a little' map of the area.

Yellow dot w/ red center is Alberto's Suites.

Red dot w/ yellow center is McDonalds.

Purple dot w/white center is Internet/Phone center 5 pesos (¢. 14) for a quick e-mail check/Phone about 60 pesos ($1. 70) for 3 minutes.

White dot w/ green center is Tony's gym (100 pesos daily but no fancy or new equipment. Gold's gym is at Plaza Internacional for 250 pesos daily very modern with HOT, FIT Dominicanas, No flabby guts and lots of spinners)

Light Blue dots w/ black center are Restaurants that were good and fairly priced.

The red Monopoly House shaped bldg. With 12 in it is the Hodelpa Centro Plaza (about $105. 00 USD and up a night) The one with 10 in it is the Aloha del Sol (about 1679 pesos and up per night) both great stays if you want more amenities.

Most taxistas should take you to most parts of Santiago for 100 to 150 pesos.

Conchos where you get in with up to 6 more people are 12 pesos and up.

Motos (moto-cycles) are negotioable 100 pesos in a cab is 40-50 pesos on a moto. (not for the faint of heart)

Santiago / La Vega / Moca ALL have hot girls that can be had if you are a spanish speaker with some time to spend. The girls in BB’s bikini contest PALE in comparison to MOST of Santiagos regular women.

Light Skinned spinners in one of Santiagos many Universities at all hours, Caramel Cuties with naturally long hair and round booty, Dark skinned big butt thick chics with tits. ALL available and open to gringo love.

Met an American at Plaza Internacional after working out at Golds. He said he didn’t speak much Spanish and was on his way to PP for P4P. (He said his car rental was $265. 00 for the five days) We walked around the mall and I spoke to most of the girls working just to demonstrate how friendly they are and MORE when you can communicate.

If a Dominican girl is not in a committed relationship she IS available.

A kind word will net you a smile, a kind Spanish word will net you a date. Then it’s just chemistry and timing. YMMV but IMO I think you can be intimately close in 3 days or DATES.

1 day/date to meet and chat, 2nd day/date to wine and dine, 3rd invite to hang in and watch a movie on your laptop and that’s when you may or may not get laid but if you have self confidence and game it’s no big deal.

These girls really just like the difference in attitude with foreigners. Dominican guys are used to them and MOST treat them very "dime a dozen-ish".

Spend time in Santiago and you’ll really understand why.

Girls will give up their phone numbers in a heartbeat. Right off of the street. Just the "hello, what’s your name, can I see you again blah blah".

Many will want you to meet someone close to them like Family or friends BEFORE they stay the night at your place, they want to feel safe too.

Many are Gold-diggers with the American Dream in mind.

Many are just down to earth and sincere and want nothing more than love and affection.

I went to La Pasions one night just to have the experience, 2500 pesos on site 45 minutes. 3000 pesos 2 hours at your place (tapped a shorty named Claribel BBBJ/CFS/Multiple positions, told her it had been a while. Got back to the hotel and trounced her for 45 minutes. She kept asking for my leche and I was cracking up because we were having a serious workout.

She was like "I thought you were gonna be quick Papi". So I pulled off my condom and told her to suck it. She was trying to appear like a porn chic teasing with her tongue and talking trash. I told her I was about to come so she moves back a little but has her tongue hanging out trying to look sexy.

The first squirt of my load went RIGHT down the pipes. She was gagging and fussing and I was cracking up. She washes up and starts getting dressed I said "Hey that was only one hour" she says " No we’re gonna cuddle cuz my taxi takes a while plus you said you were gonna be quick". I said " you wanna go make some more money huh? " and she was like Yes papi it’s still early. Taxi shows up 10 minutes later and I don’t even trip.

Now that I know their hustle I’ll act accordingly.

Truth is I’m not a DR Mongerer by definition. I meet regular girls and put the time in for future engagements. This was my 4th time in Santiago in 8 months and I’ve made some sexy acquaintances. I feel the same way about Barranquilla it’s AWESOME if you speak Spanish. You don’t have to p4p unless you have downtime from regular chics.

I’ll go to La Pasions again on a desperate night but I more enjoy a regular girl after dinner and a movie. The sex isn’t always pornographic at first but they are willing to learn because they culturally aim to please their man.

I enjoy p4p as well but I will reiterate that Santiago and many other cities in the DR have Model level women available for relationships if this is your style and you have a lil’ time.

Happy Mongering, GFE-ing and whatever other –ing you enjoy Fellas.