Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

[Old Thai Hand]

I read this on 'Mango Sauce' and thought it was oh so true.


1. Alcohol
Your demur Thai bar girl sweetheart will drink you under the table. However, she won't be satisfied with cheap local brands. Only costly imported beverages hit the spot. A huge duty-free bottle of Bailey's is the one thing that might stop her slaughtering your mini-bar.

2. Sweet shit
Thai bar girls love sugary snacks because prancing around that chromium pole and shagging all your mates requires a lot of energy. Let her shovel it in but remember to dump her before the dental bills arrive.

3. Seafood
Thai food is cheap and delicious but don't expect to taste any. Your Thai bar girl will go seafood-crazy when you foot the bill. Even when already gorged with sweet shit, she can still take on a blue whale. Try to keep smiling when she tells her friends to order whatever they want.

4. Som Tam
Part papaya salad and part incendiary device, a plate of som tam is next on her agenda. You could try some too - to burn the taste of that ghastly blubber out of your mouth.

5. Transport
Even if your room is just across the street, your Thai bar girl isn't going to walk there. The genes that enabled her parents' generation to toil in the rice fields are rarely inherited. To avoid tantrums, call a taxi. Stairs will provoke yet more whining. Make a mental note to buy a magic fucking carpet.

6. Dreadful Thai TV
Once in the room, your Thai bar girl will be straight over to the TV. She can't resist the awful Thai game shows and soap operas. To everyone else they are sheer torture and make the Shopping Channel look like quality entertainment. If you don't have UBC, you are doomed.

7. Games console
There are two activities you can enjoy with your Thai bar girl and this is the other one.

8. Cartoons
Sometimes a man needs his princess to amuse herself quietly. A pile of Thai cartoon magazines will shut her up for hours. Never discard them - they will do for the next girl.

9. Ganja
If you're daft enough to have any weed, your Thai bar girl will save you a long stretch in Thai jail (See Smile, you're in Thai jail) by smoking your entire stash. Afterwards, she will fall into the sleep of the righteous without so much as a thank you blow-job.

10. Gold
Inevitably, the relationship must end when your Thai bar girl asks for gold. She will be walking on air when you take her to the jewellers. Wait until she is thoroughly weighed down with trinkets before you walk out and leave her there. Turn back and enjoy the look of despair on her face. If she gives chase, laugh as the greedy tart is rugby-tackled by the shop's burly guards.

[NicFrenchy]

Agreed, plus I have never really understood the kick behind voyeurism anyway, particularly in a town where real skin on skin is so easily available.

Simple, Most Farangs on Camfrog do not live in LOS and the Thai guys that are there come to pick up girls.

Like sex chat lines, I never really got the point (although being a multi-million dollar industry, there are plenty of paying customers out there) and associated it more with inadequate saddo's wanking in their bedrooms.

Imagine a single, X year old chap sitting at home, horny as hell and connected to the internet... I know there are a lot of movies and pictures available but a lot of guys want to see something new now, and the "live" concept of Camfrog could be exciting to some.

I don't know about you but I get bored after 10 seconds of watching a sex movie.

Now Nic & OTH definately do not fall into this category, so what's the deal? Do these girls emerge from their own fantasy worlds now and then and put out for you guys? Or are many of them pro's on the search for new customers anyway? Or is it simply that you like a spot of voyeurism on the side?

For anyone who has lived in Thailand (lately) the answer is Easy: Thai girls LOVE attention, they just can't get enough of it. Pictures, videos, they love for people to talk about them so being on cam and showing skin while 100's of horny guys masturbate looking at them might be what get their juices flowing.

The sad thing in Thailand (or is it?) is that for every Thai girl there are 4 horny Thai guys going after her. No matter how she looks she will have a few guys courting her looking to get into her pants. Thai guys are Very very good at talking to the ladies and making them believe they are the most beautiful girl they have ever seen: as a result, even an average lookng girl will think she is All That.

There also seems to be plenty of Thai girls on DIA yet I do not recall this avenue of possibility being mentioned, particularly by the ex-pats with more time on their hands. Anyone had any luck in that direction?

I have pulled a lot of girls from Camfrog (and wrote some reports on it) so yes, this is a very successful way of getting girls.

but BEWARE, look at the attached picture and be careful about what you see on these DIA sites LOL. Camfrog's great because with the cam, you can see the whole package right away.

[Mr Innocent]

I hate to disagree with you. But, I'd say that the majority of Thai women are mentally and emotionally unbalanced, not to mention incredibly immature.

I've witnessed countless examples over the years from "regular" Thai women, that have convinced me that many, if not most are abnormal in one way or another.

To answer Terry Terrier's question...I think that the situations and behaviour dramatized on Thai Lakorn are both symptomatic of this abnormality and also a huge contributor to it.

On any given night, Thai TV displays overt and wild female (and male) hysteria and histrionics for all to see and emulate. The Thais are not a sophisticated people, especially up-country. They take what they see on TV much more seriously and literally than we do in the West. Thus, it has a huge impact on their belief system and subsequent behaviour. Stomping one's feet, and losing one's cool at the slightest provocation, like a petulant child is ingrained into every Thai woman's psyche.

The great cultural myth here, that Thais like to shove in your face is that they are a calm, serene, happy, smiling, loving people because they're Buddhists, not like us mean, aggressive Farang.

The truth is quite the opposite. They bottle up an incredilbe amount of emotion and anger, which then goes off, often repeatedly, like a rocket at any given moment, with often disastrous results.

Volatile and unstable, like nitro is probably a more accurate description.

Hi Guys,

New to this forum, since yesterday.

I spent years in Thailand and was married to an"educated good girl" from a fairly well to do family. Yeah right?

Could not have said it better than Old Thai Hand.

Mr innocent

The artist formerly known as Pepe'/TV

[BlackCoffee]

I hope I am allowed to do this, but I wanted to share an excellent article which helps to explain what many Thai women, and American women, have asked me. I refer to: www.fredoneverything.net/AsianWomen

I hate feminists. The straw that broke the back of my marriage had its roots in feminism. It is my hot button issue. So, when I read this, I thought that this is a guy who not only has accomplished a good analysis of feminism, but has done a good job of writing it down.

Sorry, Jackson, if I shouldn't be referring to another web site.

Thanks.

The article and it's author are great.

[Kiko8222]

I hear you on this story...

I have a couple similar stories from my recent trip to LOS. And the lesson I learned from them:

Never underestimate the power of the mamasan/boss of the bar. They can really talk some shit between you and the girls.

I try my best to avoid the bar fines as well. It is usually all good the first few times especially when I meet the girl at a club when she is freelancing after hours. However, eventually, the mamasan will get irritated because she is not getting a cut of whatever money I give the girl.

And the bullshit that they spill into the girl can be so poisonous...no matter how much the girl genuinely likes you. Can never win against the mamasan....only money can.

Is true, dun underestimate the waitress, waiters/guys who working in the club that love the gal u love n the working gals too, they will get jelous n irritated, they will spill poison n bullshit into your relationship to make sure both of u will slipt up. This happen to me before n lucky all the bullshit doesnt work.

[Chiefsizzle]

I hear you on this story...

I have a couple similar stories from my recent trip to LOS. And the lesson I learned from them:

Never underestimate the power of the mamasan/boss of the bar. They can really talk some shit between you and the girls.

I try my best to avoid the bar fines as well. It is usually all good the first few times especially when I meet the girl at a club when she is freelancing after hours. However, eventually, the mamasan will get irritated because she is not getting a cut of whatever money I give the girl.

And the bullshit that they spill into the girl can be so poisonous...no matter how much the girl genuinely likes you. Can never win against the mamasan....only money can.

Several months ago, I met a very lovely girl dancing at Sisters a-go-go. It felt like love at first sight. We made eye contact. She smiled so sweetly. I winked and smiled back. Soon she was sitting next to me. We laughed and joked. She touched me so softly. She is so tiny; so feminine. Her smile is radiant; her figure so beautiful. I liked every thing about her – beautiful face, outstanding body, charming personality -- and she speaks pretty good English too.

She asked me to bar fine her. I agreed after she said she liked oral sex. Our first session was nice. I enjoyed licking her soft bald pussy until she climaxed. Her BBBJ technique is mediocre at best, but her face is so pretty she had no trouble at all getting me off. The chemistry was great – wonderful GFE. She gave me her number and became a regular.

When she complained of no customers at Sisters, I suggested she go work at Super Baby. She had no trouble getting that job. When low season came and she complained again about the lack of customers at Super Baby, I suggested another bar that I knew had many customers, and she got that job too. She seemed very grateful for my help. I was happy for her.

Twice a week she always sent me an SMS saying: “How are you, Daddy? I miss you so much.” How sweet. I always invited her to come see me before work for another nice session, and I would give her 1100 baht. Now and then I would bar fine her for 600 baht, give her 1000 after the session, and she was always happy.

Once, she admired a bedside clock in my room, joking that I give it to her. Two weeks later I found another one just like it and presented it to her as we lay in bed. She squealed with delight over the simple gift. Our sessions, though always nice, remained mostly the same without variation. Her BBBJ’s remained mediocre. She didn’t want to change the routine. I was getting bored.

Two weeks ago she sent me another “I miss you so much” message, and I replied that I would see her soon. I went to her bar and bought her a drink. She whined about not having a customer for 14 days. I invited her to come see me the next day. She said: “I don’t know.” I said OK. Then she started bitching at me about not bar fining her. “My friend ask me why he (me) not pay bar for you,” and on and on. I told her straight out that I wanted her to come see me, but I wasn’t going to bar fine her. She stomped off leaving her untouched drink on the table.

A few days later I bought her another drink and she stomped off again after the same conversation. This time I called softly after her: “I don’t want to see you again.”

It’s my favorite bar so I still go there a lot. Now she won’t look at me. She walked right past me once having to squeeze past a table full of customers so that her face was six inches away from mine, but she would not look up at me. She knew I was there. I thought to myself: this girl cares more about her friend’s opinion of her than the 2200 baht I was giving her every week. If she really didn’t care about that, she would look at me and smile, but apparently she does care and she’s not happy. Of course, if she gives in to me she will lose face with her friend. I was touched.

So long, little sweetheart. It was great while it lasted, but you demanded a little too much.

Time to move on to the next one. And the next, and the next.

Thai girls. I love them, but will never understand them.

[Sanook D]

Try having a Thai woman for a boss, if you want to experience a over-rought and melodramatic work environment. It's great fun.

You're a braver man than I, Gunga Din.

[Opebo]

I have a regular who is always hitting me up for extra - very annoying. However the sex is great so I put up with it, while never giving in to any large extent. Sometimes she is so petulant it ruins the sex, other times she just laughs my cheapness off and provides great service. I'd never put up with this in Pattaya, of course, but upcountry, well, I guess I can deal with it.

This tale is another endorsement of brothels as when the girl worked in one she was little trouble, and only wanted 500 or 600 baht. Since she's gone 'independent' she must not get nearly as many customers so she's always squeezing.

[Old Thai Hand]

Just remember that your Thai girl is in terms of emotional response and expectations living on what might as well be another planet.

Try having a Thai woman for a boss, if you want to experience a over-rought and melodramatic work environment. It's great fun.

[Daddy07]

Yeah, I know LOL.. dumb guys usually react like that.
In this case, who is to blame? me? or the girl he sends money to?
For what it's worth, if he is dumb enough to think that sponsoring a girl from overseas is going to make her stay faithful... especially when she is young and beautiful and he is old. By the way, beside me, she also fucks another 2 thai guys, one that is a gig and the other is the Official Brother (in the eyes of the Sponsor)...

That poor, poor, pathetic bastard.

Give him my condolances when he finally catches up with you, OK?

[Sanook D]

Anyway, while P4P, especially BGs have a rather extreme and unique form or erratic and bizarre behaviour patterns, I don't think they have a monopoly on such behaviour.

I've known enough regular TGs to confidently say that nutty behaviour is quite endemic throughout the whole Thai female population.

Add yaa baa, often heavy alcohol consumption, and badly damaged self image ("I am bad girl"- girl who has gone of the deep end socially) to a normal Thai/Isaan girl (i.e., neurotic, emotionally puerile female whose role models are the "good girls" on Thai soaps) and you get a P4P-BG.

Thai women (and it must be added, men) are very good at maintaining self-control and laughing things off/burying head in sand up to the point at which they lose control utterly (could possibly explain the high murder rate amongst such seemingly gentle people). I'm guessing that in a Thai/Thai relationship both parties are good at detecting the "I'm about to blow a gasket" signs, but you, Mr. "Come On Lady, Stop Acting Childish" Farang, are likely to keep pushing the wrong buttons merely by acting all reasonable and rational in the face of extreme silliness, petty jealousy, and baseless suspicion; and lo and behold, you're faced with a meltdown requiring Tasers and straightjackets. And from her perspective you likely gave her no choice but to act that way.

Just remember that your Thai girl is in terms of emotional response and expectations living on what might as well be another planet (in the case of a BG, the planet is likely wobbling on its axis). You might develop an intellectual understanding that allows you to predict behavior, but unless you were raised here you will never really understand it (something to be grateful for, I think).

[Old Thai Hand]

OTH, I have far less experience than you in regards to thai girls, the only 2 long term relationship I have had with non P4P girls ended because it was too much drama for me to handle (screening of cellphone numbers and sms, examination of clothes and other stuff like that).

Well, you haven't been here as long as I have and you're 20-some years younger. You still have plenty of time to experience the whole gamut of relationships.

A lot of Thai women model their behaviour after the histrionics they see displayed in Thai lakorn on TV. But, I've also seen Farang men display just as extreme jealous behaviour towards Thai women. Relationships here are often emotionally charged at both ends.

[NicFrenchy]

Wait and see, Nic. Some day it might catch up with you. A certain Italian ‘sponsor’ might come after you with a knife.

Yeah, I know LOL.. dumb guys usually react like that.
In this case, who is to blame? me? or the girl he sends money to?
For what it's worth, if he is dumb enough to think that sponsoring a girl from overseas is going to make her stay faithful... especially when she is young and beautiful and he is old. By the way, beside me, she also fucks another 2 thai guys, one that is a gig and the other is the Official Brother (in the eyes of the Sponsor).

OTH, I have far less experience than you in regards to thai girls, the only 2 long term relationship I have had with non P4P girls ended because it was too much drama for me to handle (screening of cellphone numbers and sms, examination of clothes and other stuff like that).
I am now fully satisfied with the "gig" like relationship... no strings attached, just call each other and meet, go out, have fun and have sex.

[NicFrenchy]

Didin't we already have a discussion awhile ago about the insanity of Thai women?

Anyway, while P4P, especially BGs have a rather extreme and unique form or erratic and bizarre behaviour patterns, I don't think they have a monopoly on such behaviour.

I've known enough regular TGs to confidently say that nutty behaviour is quite endemic throughout the whole Thai female population.

Appreciated, but we're not looking for a wife here are we? Well, I for sure am not. Just a nice horizontal sport partner or a "gig" LOL

[Daddy07]

Maybe time to move to regular (non P4P) girls? you're a local so it's not hard

Yeah, I did that a few months ago and found that it’s far more hassle than p4p.

Wait and see, Nic. Some day it might catch up with you. A certain Italian ‘sponsor’ might come after you with a knife.

Didin't we already have a discussion awhile ago about the insanity of Thai women? ...

Yes, we did, and this is part of a continuing saga, which is the purpose of this thread.

Despite all the insanity, these girls are more than worth the trouble as long as the relationships are kept at arms length. I’ve already found a new regular – a 19 year old angel.