Ethiopia

[Lance-a-Lot]

Steve, you are right on.

Before going to Africa I had assumed it would be more like Asia, with cheap guest houses all over. This still might be the case, but I am hard pressed to find them, and usually have to stay in very overpriced rooms. I now realize just how expensive Africa is to the non-local. Addis was a bit different, in that there seemed to be a lot of cheap, clean hotels--some advertised as cheaper than the Desalegn.

You might need to get the skinny from old Africa hands--my times on the continent are usually limited to short stints that don't accomodate a lot of exploration.

Best of luck,

Lance

[Member #4364]

@ Lance; for me the hughest problem in Africa is to find an accepteble
accommodation; hotels are so expensive; and information about apartments;
nothing; any tip for Addis ?

[Lance-a-Lot]

Further updates from Addis:

The city apparently has several areas similar to Mike Leyland Road, one of which is Bole St. about five or six blocks up from where it meets Leyland towards the center of town. This was told to me by a taxi driver when I asked about the proliferation of bars in this area. But I have not yet explored the area.

Just outside the Desalegn, to the right when you exit the building, there are usually SWs hanging about from 8 PM onwards. They are much more populous in the strip leading on to Cameroon Rd., or at least more obvious, than near the Christmas light bars. They range in quality, and are usually a bit older or younger than the bar girls. A bit cheaper too, but as always with SWs, they seem a bit more inclined towards thievery.

In one of the traditional Ethiopian restaurants I spied a very beautiful waitress named Meron (seems to be a very popular name here). She was probably one of the prettiest girls I had seen in country, so I flirted to see if she were game or not. Game she was, but she had to go directly home when she got off work and gave me her phone number readily with a promise to meet during the daytime. Nice to know this is an option—can’t say she is a pro, but at least she is willing to meet up with a foreign stranger who had obvious mischief on his mind.

As an end note, on one of my earlier forays down Leyland, a very comely lass standing in a doorway caught my eye (most of the bars had their doors closed, but a few had girls out front to catch strays) so I entered. There were a few men in the place, friendly folk, Ethiopian born but been living in the US for some years. They were equally enthralled with girls and it was quite fun.

Had a few beers and flirted with girls, but the cutest one seemed occupied with a guy who was buying her beers (the gals were all aggressive about asking for drinks, and not satisfied with just one, and it is easy to run up a big bill if you are feeling generous). On my way out another of the girls who was also attractive followed me and offered to come along for 200 Birr. OK, come on. Then she called to her friend, the one I had an eye for, who came out and joined us. So both came back. Ended up being 400 Birr for the two of them, and they were obviously very good friends. Coincidently, I believe there are the same two girls Loso posted photos of on the forum, so I am posting pictures as well to demonstrate their enduring qualities.

[DG69]

@Bill Kan most American think II.WW starts when they join they fight, but the Italians were from 1935 to 1941 in Ethiopia and lost this colony right after they join the war in 1940.
Anyway it's true that in Ethiopia like in other countries in that region consider white skin as something desirable. That means not that they are racists. White skin is seldom and therefore en vogue. African women at least in West Africa use often cream to make their skin white. Never the less money counts not te colour of skin, at least for women.

[Bill Kan]

Ethiopian people don’t care about race any more. What matters to them is money. They fought bloody war with the Somalis in Ogaden in 1977. After Bare was over thrown in 1991, Ethiopians entertained a lot of Somali refugees by renting them their homes. Once they were bloody enemies but now they became great friends because they need each other to survive.
Let me get back to the point in question: the availability of Ethiopian women to mongers of different race. Yes they are available indeed. I have seen Arabs, blacks and whites treated equally by Ethiopian woman. Ethiopia is the poorest nation on this earth and money talks here. As I said time and again in my previous posting, pay them right and do not inflate the price and treat Ethiopian woman with respect. This is a culturally conservative and secretive society. Traditionally Ethiopian men can have more than one girlfriends and the Ethiopian term for mistress is “Wushima”. Sex workers were introduced during Italian occupation in the years 1941-45. Since then prostitution has been widely known and practiced in Ethiopia. There used to be a spot called doro manekia back in the days known for street action. You could get a quickie action anywhere from 10 to 15 Ethiopian Birr. I do not recommend mongers to utilize that spot alone at night. You can also get working girls from bars and restaurants. You can buy them a glass of tea and negotiate the price and take them to the room. Always be firm with price and tell them that you know the market. Knowing few word helps. I will be listing few words that will help break the ice.
Endaminesh = how are you?
Achirgize = short time
Adar = LT
Shai Techi = have a glass of tea
Birra Techi = have a beer
Qulla = penis
Imis = vagina
Qintir = clitoris
Toot = breast
Kit = ass
Qulla lashi = BJ

[Urgent Need]

Calm down warpfield, you are completely out of track. We do not know each other, what kind of decency is that just popping from somewhere and call me names? I posted what I was told in case somebody finds it useful. I am half black myself. I do not share the opinion of the doctor concerning blacks. That was his opinion not mine. You are blaming me just for nothing and I do not like it. Watch out your mouth in the future.

[Akaki Zeraf]

Warpfield,

You have been unreasonable for blaming Urgent Need for posting something he heard. Yes it is true we all want to read some sex actions but it is not really that harmful to see some opinions once in a while. I had lived in Ethiopia for 2 years. I know the ins and outs of the country very well. Yes it is true the word BARIA or its equivalent SHANQUILA are used very often. Nobody will come and say it in your face but it is still there. There is also another word they use for non-habesha blacks, ZINGERO. It means monkey. That is just the truth. Now let us put this behind us and focus on what this forum is all about.

[Warpfield]

FACT: Whites are accepted well in the entire community. Most whites are professionals. Most ethios are racist towards other africans. They are called BARIAS, an amharic word for slave. They used to call their own president (mengistu) the same thing because of his facial features. Ethiopians consider themselves different. He told me that he would rather see an ethio woman with white than with non white.

Ethiopians accept everybody whether black or white I've been going there since 2004 I'm black and know a little Amharic. Never heard the word Barias or being treated differently because of my complexion 80 million people and only one perspective reading the above. I know of Ethiopians who dislike white people I don't bring their opinions here less we forget Ethiopia wasn't conquered by any European nation. The Italians were there for only around five years during WW2.

Does this mean that the majority white Americans are right wing racist zenaphobic idiots? Over 250 million Americans I'm sure the white people amongst them don't. All feel the same about Arabs, Africans, Asians and Jews etc I want to read reports about sex.

Not rantings by a guy I suspect doesn't really like black people and seeks out one Ethiopian out of 80 million who might share his views. That his business its better to keep it to himself.

[Lance-a-Lot]

Just arrived in Addis, and like any good social scientist, I decided to replicate the distinguished findings of those who have come before me. The adventures reported by Loso69 in his excellent posts provide exquisite detail, and triangulation of his report will confirm the essentials every monger needs for a quick in and out of Addis. Is sum, he is very accurate. I will not duplicate what was already posted, but offer a few additional points and some description of my encounters on the first day.

From the airport, I paid 65 Birr, for a cab (exchange is about US$ 1 = 10 Birr). This is more than an Ethiopian would pay I am sure, but it was easy and not devastatingly high. The cabbie knew Mikey Leyland Road, and took me right to the Desalegn. A single room charge is US$ 76, with simple but comfortable rooms. The hotel offers free Wifi, pool tables in the basement and a very rudimentary gym in the back building. You can rent a phone SIM card from the hotel boys (30 Birr per day), and charge it up as buying one is very difficult for foreigners, but you have to deal with the local calls coming in looking for the bell hop.

As evening set it, I walked down towards Cameroon St. (on the right as you exit the Desaleng) and there are immediately seen a variety of bars and restaurants. Cross Cameroon St. and these places make up almost the entirety of the buildings on either side of Leyland. (Conversely,if you go left from the hotel, towards Africa Avenu, there is a place that advertises “spa” facilities with pictures of nearly nude women in various states of resort indulgence, but I have yet to visit to see what lies inside.)

After crossing Cameroon St. I had a fine Ethiopian coffee in my fist stop, at about 6 PM, and life was very slow. I traveled to the end of Leyland and had a beer (over the night, I paid between 5 and 10 Birr at most places for beer, St. Georges Lager being my favorite). I saw a lot of very pretty girls walking about, and a few bars were charging up with people. My tootometer was not indicating the presence of working girls, but I did get a few smiles and waves.

At about 7 PM I began to spot a few obvious pros, indicated by a “hello”, “hi honey” and other obvious communications from their side. I stuck to bars with tables on the sidewalk and the professional traffic going up and down got much heavier, and the small Christmas light bars started to be more active. I check out a few, but found some with nary a girl, and some with not so cute girls, and one with only two girls, one of which was exactly what I was looking for. Beza was 20 yrs old, spoke some English, and epitomized my ideal of Ethiopian beauty--slender, fine featured and fair skinned.

She at first offered that I buy her a green label whisky, but I bought her a beer considering what a whisky charge would be, and she chugged this beer and ordered another one without asking. She was very touchy and flirty, and agreed to come home for 300 Birr for a short time. This seemed expensive given what previous reports indicate, but I agreed as jet lag was setting in and I didn’t know how much more wandering I could tolerate (she wanted 500 Birr LT, but I find that usually after the first 30 minutes they are just bored and want to leave anyhow, so why bother) .

The beer bill came, and they charged 15 Birr per bottle (5 more than was indicated when I asked the price). Lesson 1—pay for the beer as it comes and do not wait for the final bill in these smaller monger holes. I got a cab home, and for the four minute ride the cabbie wanted 50 Birr. After bickering he reluctantly accepted 22 Birr. Lesson 2—although 20 Birr had been mentioned, it would have been better to get this very clear before even entering the cab. The hotel staff did not blink an eye when I cam in with Beza, and she was up for business as soon as the door closed and I handed over the 300 Birr (about US$30). She was a decent performer (about a 6 or 7, with appropriate moans and twists), but preferred the missionary and little else aside from straight sex.

At the end, she was just as quick to put on her clothes and beg her leave. Tonight jet lag should be diminished as well as my pent up desires, and armed with my personal insights I will spend a bit more in-depth time searching options, so lesson 3—always be willing to walk away in order to secure a fair price will be applied.

Thanks Loso for the initial road map which I followed.

[Urgent Need]

I was in dallas, texas the other day to visit a long lost friend of mine when I ran into an Ethiopian doctor who has been working in the local area for a couple of years. I asked him a lot about Ethiopia and he sincerely told me everything about it. I told him that I was there once and we started our chat from there.

FACT: The highest consumers of ethio pros are ethio men both married and single. Most married ethio men have mistresses on the side. The mistress can be a pro or a non-pro. Most prefer the pros for obvious reasons.

FACT: Whites are accepted well in the entire community. Most whites are professionals. Most ethios are racist towards other africans. They are called BARIAS, an amharic word for slave. They used to call their own president (mengistu) the same thing because of his facial features. Ethiopians consider themselves different. He told me that he would rather see an ethio woman with white than with non white.

FACT: Once the sun goes down, it is hard to tell pros from non-pros. The best girls to pick are street walkers. These tend to be students even office workers. Salary in Ethiopia is not good. Some just go out to earn some extra cash. One can even find newbies for cheap. Club girls can be pros and non pros. The number of non-pros is small though. U may have to talk to many to find one. If you find one, you are the luckiest. U can fuck the hell out of her for free since she is there just to have a good time over the weekend. The pros in the clubs are very expensive. All small bar girls are pros. Their price is reasonable and one can have good looking ones if you pay a little more. These girls could be a little tired though.

FACT: Oromos are the majority in ethiopia. Addis is a kind of mixed but the number of amharas is a little higher. All are okay for a fuck. GURAGES who are minority are the best for marriage. TIGRES come close second. Best looking girls are ADERES. This is another ethnic group. They are mostly found in southern part of the country. Amaharas are also beautiful. The best place to find a non circumsized ethio chick is in WELLO which is found near bahir dar. Rent a car and drive there.

FACT: It is true that ethio chicks do not like oral and anal. Once in a while one can get some who do it though. For those who stay there longer, it is better to have a non-pro and train her over time with patience.

Well guys these are the facts from a native monger who have seen it all. He told me a lot but that is all I remember now. Good luck.

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[Loso69]

Loso forgot to mention that there are streetwalkers on the roads perpendicular to Bole and Bole Medeliam (Bole Church street) are plentiful, especially after 10 pm.

I read about the SW scene in the side streets between Bole Rd & Bole Madania Rd (Medeliam?) I couldn't find that street on my LP map. I still don't know where the Bole Rd SW are supposed to hang out either - it's a long street!

Also according to the CIA world fact book site Oromo are the majoritity in the country. I have had friends also tell me the same is true, although to a greater majority then published on the CIA site..

The Oromo are indeed the largest ethnic group in the country (40% - LP). But the Amhara rule in Addis Ababa (48% - Wikipedia).

I will try to publish more on my experiences here in Addis, but the connection is not that great and I can only publish from my job. I can say however I have had a different interpretation of the girls here, but I do not have 15 girls in 10 days or so.

Looking forward to gaining more insights from the expat POV.

Loso

[Member #2001]

Laso forgot to mention that there are streetwalkers on the roads perpendicular to Bole and Bole Medeliam (Bole Church street) are plentiful, especially after 10 pm. I forget the names of the streets, since names on the smaller streets seem to be non existent, except for the locals. I often have a hard time finding the name of the street I live on.

Also according to the CIA world fact book site Oromo are the majoritity in the country. I have had friends also tell me the same is true, although to a greater majority then published on the CIA site.

I will try to publish more on my experiences here in Addis, but the connection is not that great and I can only publish from my job. I can say however I have had a different interpretation of the girls here, but I do not have 15 girls in 10 days or so.

[Loso69]

Citizens of the recognized tourist-generating countries can obtain a visa on arrival at the airport:

http://www.mfa.gov.et/Consular_Affai...Issuance_5.htm

If your country is not on the list, read this:

http://www.mfa.gov.et/Consular_Affai...Issuance_2.htm

Loso

[Sami29]

Loso Boy,

Though I dont like your racist remarks about flat noses, and I dont like your taste of choosing skinny chicks, and yet, your reports are great. But I am not sure if entry Visa can be given to every nationality at the airport. Well done.

Monkeys have flat, wide noses. Any girl with that type of nose is ugly in my book, irrespective of skin color.

The girl in the attached picture is black as night, but looks gorgeous to me. My princesa negra had a pointy nose. Read her review in the Sao Paulo section:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...esa#post635050

I'm not racist, but I plead guilty to nose-ism.

Loso

[Urgent Need]

Loso,

The Ethiopian forum was on life support before your excellent, detailed reporting. You brought it back into life. A lot of info which I had never had before.

Thanks