2008 Sao Paulo Reports

[DogDays]

We are all here for one thing, that is paying women for sex. Do the women care about us? Hell no. Stop it now and move on for something better.

[Genghis Khan]

SG,

I was writing contributions to this board years before you became a member. I have also written more contributions than you. I did however change my level of detail on specifics because this forum changed when it started attracting members like you who started beating on people for overpaying. The last couple of years my travelling to SP has gotten more limited because of health reasons. I am however well now and plan to pick up on my travelling and reporting again to my previous favourite hunting grounds Sao Paulo, Amsterdam and Barcelona while also widening my horizon to Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre, Buenos Aires, Columbia, Bangkok, Moscow and Prague. I intend to share my experiences on this forum in the same style I usually report if the gentlemen on this forum would like me to.

Yes, I initially sent you two PMs asking for the address you will not reveal. The reason for this is that I of course know why these places are private and it certainly is not to keep people away who can be trusted to spend money there and at the same time keep quiet about their existance. I tried to explain to you that my reports on this forum would show that I am that kind of person. I never meant to imply that I am someone special like you seem to imply. My intention was simply to clarify to you that I think you did a mistake and a disservice to the people running this place.

The appology I sent was done because you reacted so strongly to my informing you that if you asked me any favours, you would get the same silent treatment you gave me. I did not really think an appology was in order but I thought best to do so to keep peace. When you then simply accepted my appology without the slightest hint of regret for your lies about my person even though I specificly asked if you could either provide more details or withdraw your statements, I thought best to check on my own if there were any truth to your statements. That is the reason why some of the contents from your PMs were shown on the forum although I did not give a direct quote to spare you from the public knowing the worst details and language.

Where I come from it is customary to use phrases like please, thank you etc. to show respect and politeness to the person you are asking a favour. If that makes me a wuss in your opinion it says more about you than me. For the record I never wrote anything like "please, please, please" or "I am the real Genghis Khan". I did write that this is my turf but you are taking it out of context because it was written to show that I am not unfamiliar with high priced girls and that probably your contacts would want me as a customer.

What you are writing about my friend is partly true and partly a misunderstanding. I had a "friend" years ago before I became active on this forum who I used as a translator and arranger on my first trip to SP. He was a scam and pissed off all the girls and club managers he tried to negotiate with. This is the only visible annoyance I have seen or heard about my presence in SP. Most of the girls and people in general seem not to notice me much because I am a really quiet guy borderline shy. Your quote should have been like this:

"« I think you might mistake me for my brazilian friend who I USED as a translator and arranger on my behalf. I know that unfortunatly everyone dislike him. »



You seem to have high thoughts about yourself because of your Brazilian contacts and presence on gpguia. You even claim to be one of very few gringos with this status. I too have a lot of contacts in SP. Not the kind who frquent gpguia though as if that has got some status among any social classes in SP. I will find the information you do not want to reveal somewhere else.

Now I think I have cleared up most of your misrepresentation of me. What now remains a fact is that you told lies about what you have heard about me from the forum members and the SP garotas.

I think you just revealed the side of you which seems capable of doing something like that in your e-mail below for the public to see.

You obviously feel insuperior and jealous because I have the financial strenght you do not have to go after the top girls. This has been an issue for several years with you and me.

GK

[Genghis Khan]

Some guys have the false impression that because they are paying more grana they will have a better service and better garotas. In fact, the more you pay the more they despise you...

You have to know how Brazilians garotas think. They will connect with you or they won´t no matter the amount of money you´re ready to spend. Garotas with open legs and open hearts...

This is probably the most stupid post I have read on this forum in a long time. Please wake up! Do you honestly think the garotas connect with you on a level that means she is more interested in your company than more money from another customer?

You have to come out of your coma and remember that these girls are girls providing sex for money. They are not your girlfriends.

Money will always come first with these garotas.

It could of course be that some of them like the personality of someone who is not the biggest spender more than the biggest spenders, but she will always go for cash. This is the reason why she is providing her services in the first place. Don't fool yourself into thinking something else.

If someone reacts to this harsh tone I would like to reveal that Sui Generis is the source to the comment I wanted feedback on below. His blatant lies were presented to me after I first had asked for some information from him. He refused to give it and I replied that he should forget to ask me for any favours in the future also. He should expect the same kind of treatment as he provides himself.

I would also like to thank everyone part of the 100% supportive and positive feedback I got on PM.

GK

[Tommy America]

I have never had the pleasure of meeting you in person, but I find your advice insightful and valuable. I am very grateful for your contributions here.

Gentlemen,

It has come to my attention from a well regarded poster on this forum that according to his words almost everone on this forum despise me and that the girls I have met in SP talk about me behind my back.

Although I do not understand why this could be because I have only met four of you and three of you I have regular contact with, I would of course releave you from your misery and withdraw from this forum if this is the truth.

If however this is not true, I would like to reveal this poster for what he is to the rest of the forum.

Feedback would be highly appriciated on PM no matter what your opinion is. In fact negative feedback is most welcome because it would give me a guideline for personal improvement.

I offer my appology to those who dispise me for some reason.

GK

[Ron Island]

Arrived this morning. Took care of some business and then headed over to Clinica Kin. I explained that is spoke no portuguese and they had a translator come out. It was hanna. WOW, unfortunately she was busy. So they sent out the line up. Most were 5's but there was a skinny little blonde named Kelly who was pretty attractive. She speaks NO english but that didn't seem to get in the way

We hit the shower and scrubbed each other gently for a bit, stepped out and dried each other off. She asked me to lay down so I willingly complied. But I laid down face first and she said " no, no, no" and signalled for me to flip. She started by licking my balls and up and down my shaft. I was staring at her in the mirror as she worked her ****y on my leg. Then she started to touch herself.

After a few minutes she practically ran to get a cover. After applying it she worked my nicely with a little CBJ. I almost spilled and she stopped and jumped (and I mean jumped) on me. She was very tight and very wet.

She spent sometime doing some nice cowgirl action, perfect temp for me. I couldn't take it anymore and got up, lifting her in the air and pinned her against the wall. This went on for awhile and she spilled her first cup. Then I layed her down for some mish, then doggy where I finished.

It was excellent, thanks to those on the board for recommending Kin as a great place to start in SP. I can't wait for tomorrow. I am going to try to schedule 4 hands with hanna and kelly.

[Sui Generis]

My last day in São Paulo. Did some shopping today. For me, my wife and people I care.

As I had the afternoon off (my plane leaves at 23h00), I decided to pay a visit to the (former) Casa do Hector on rua Novo cancioneiro.

There were last people than Monday night when I went there to see if the place was reopen.

Camila, the receptionist, was at her habitual place and she is entertaining as ever (even if she gained some weight). The « apresentação » gave me a good idea of the quality of the place. Among the six garotas I saw, four were between 7.5 and 8.5.

I choose Thaína. She said to mee that she was new at Cancioneiro but that she used to work for Hector at the venue at rua Sapoti (which is still closed).

A garota originally from Piaui. A cute nordestina with a nice honey complexion. Just a little bit overweight (not too much, maybee 5 lbs max) but the breats were a little bit saggy. That didn´t impaired my evaluation of the session.

Thaína is the perfect garota de programa: always smiling, funny and ready to please you.

Everything was included in the menu: DFK (and believe me: she knows how to kiss!), DATY, 69. Moreover, she likes toi suck your balls and the zone between the scrotum and the anus (I had the idea of shaving the area around my little soldier before leaving for Brazil).

I noticed two tatooes. A star on her neck and the name of her daughter spelled on her back. She even showed me pictures of her daughter (that were on her cell phone).

Very entertaining girl. No fuss and a good company.

New name of the place:

Clínica Cancioneiro
88A rua Cancioneiro
Open from 10 to 22h
R$ 70 1/2h)
R$90 1h


Most of the girls there were working there before.

[Houston Player]

Can someone tell us more about Love Story. I haven't seen it discussed in a long time. Are all the girls in Love Story working and available? Or do locals go there just to dance and hang-out?

[Prosal]

You have to know how Brazilians garotas think.

Right on the money.

Cultural awareness (and language skills) goes a long way everywhere in the world, yet this is maybe even more true in Brasil.

[Sperto]

Hey Suis,
How can I meet a gdp in the R1,000 range?

Go to Help in Rio. I'm sure you'll find many women there who would be happy to charge you R$ 1000.
Usually price and quality of GP's are not proportional at all (as always there are exceptions).

[Sui Generis]

No need to pay that price nor to go in high-end boites to meet top-notch garotas.

I've met in Love Story a Paranaense from Londrina who had been Playboy Coelhinha just a few monthes before. Gave her 200 reals (she stayed till 4 pm), which is the usual price for a girl picked-up in LS.

Some guys have the false impression that because they are paying more grana they will have a better service and better garotas. In fact, the more you pay the more they despise you...

You have to know how Brazilians garotas think. They will connect with you or they won´t no matter the amount of money you´re ready to spend. Garotas with open legs and open hearts...

I was surpised when I met a fellow hobbyist from this forum last week, at clinica Kin. His first question was: « How much do you tip the girls? » My answer was and still is) « Tipping? What are you talking about????»

[Prosal]

How can I meet a gdp in the R1,000 range?

No need to pay that price nor to go in high-end boites to meet top-notch garotas.

I met in Love Story a Paranaense from Londrina who had been Playboy Coelhinha just a few monthes before. After some serious drinking and partying, we went back to my apartment where she stayed till 4 pm. I gave her 200 reals (on which we had agreed before), which is the usual price for a girl picked-up in LS, whatever the "quality".

[Sui Generis]

Hey Suis,

How can I meet a gdp in the R1,000 range?

Are they listed somewhere or would I need to know someone?

Just go to the Café Photo. Some of the garotas have the guts to ask this price.

For the venues with garotas in the R$1 000 range (and more) you must have a contact. Sorry, don´t ask the adresses, I wont divulgate them (even with the address, they won´t let you in. A personal contact is mandatory). Don´t forget that Kassab is chasing luxury prostitution in São Paulo.

[Zebomber]

Hello fellow mongerers.

1st time traveller to SP here. I was wondering if anyone knows how friendly my hotel is to the hobby.

Best,

Z

[Sui Generis]

I had a strange day indeed.

First of all, I was waiting a phone call from one of my friend in São Paulo concerning the BDSM party he was supposed to throw tonight.

He called me, as promised, at 11h00. At that time nothing was sure concerning the party (it´s still hard to organize this kind of event on weekdays. Still, you have to know São Paulo to realize how it´s hard to drive in that city).

He proposed instead to meet me in order that we have lunch together (he said also that he was paying the bill).

I know him (anonymously thru the Internet) since 2005 and I was eager to meet him because we have many passions in common: Jazz, Poetry, Literature, among others.

We meet in a neibourghood I didn´t know yet: Saúde. More precisely we met in a buffet on the corner of Cursino and Nossa Senhora da Saúde. Before leaving Canada, I bought for him a bottle of Canadian whiskey because he´s a true epicurian and fine gourmet (it was his birthday a couple of weeks ago too).

The afternoon was very pleasing. He spoke about some garotas I knew, some gossips concerning hobbying in Sampa, and naturally he spoke a lot about his passion : BDSM and fetichism. he said to me that he even has a blog, so he´s nor afraid of being in the open.

A very pleasant and well educated man.

Before coming back to my hotel I made a quick stop at the Ibirapuera shopping center in order to do some shopping. I went also to the cyber cafe on Ibirapuera in order to read my emails.

I had the surprise to see a email of a friend I have in Brazil, Brasila more precisely. She was once in love with me but as I live with the same women on my side for the last 22 years (and we are getting along very well...and she is so open) I declined her invitation. I even suspected at the time that she was mentally fragile. Bingo I was right. In her email she said to me that she had suffered a nervous breakdown this summer and that she was slowly recovering. The worst is that in her email she uses the same word that offended me when she was my friend: words like « meu amor » (my love), «querido» (my dear). That email made me sad because even if I´m not in love with this girl I still do care for her.

As one bad news never comes alone, my girlfriend he in Brazil had the blues this evening. She knows that I´m leaving tomorrow and she start complaining about my departure. To make the things worst she is sick since Sunday and she had to attend the faculty in that condition.

I didn´t want to be bothered by such bad moods. Moreover, I was not in the mood to spend my time in a long bus ride to visit a privê far off Moema.

last week, one of my friend said to me that I should pay a visit to a certain privê in Moema: Eucaliptos privê

657 Avenida das Eucaliptos
Phone (11) 5041-4658

R$ 50,00 for 30 min
R$ 80,00 for 1 hour

I knew in advance that the garotas are georgous but with restrictions (no DFK, no BBBJ).

I was greeted at the door by a stunning young beauty. Her name is Fabiola. I dind´t ask her age but she seems in her young 20´s. She is originally from Minas Gerais and she has one of the most enticing smile I have ever seen.

Even if she does a CBJ it was very good because she spend a lot of time licking my balls and the zone between my scrotum and my back hole. She likes also to complete the session with a special position. She position you at the end of the bed (your back lies on the bed while your legs are toutching the floor) and she straddles you, her both legs firmly grounded on the floor.

A bright moment of relief to spend a good time with such a joyfull person. She chased my blues away....

[Orca11]

The following post is my personal opinion, I don´t present it as a TRUTH.

According to me, the best place to meet beautiful girls in SP is in Privês.

Here are my reasons:

1) Girls from sites charges R$200 or even (this is the emerging trend) between R4250 and R$300. The pictures on some sites (like Club Model) are fairly accurate, but be aware that there´s always a slight touch of photoshop.

2) Sometimes it´s a problem to get inside their apt. You have to register at the reception of their building.

3) It´s always a lotery. You´re not sure if the girl you saw on the picture will atrract you in real.

4) In privê you see the girl before choosing her.

5) You´ll have her for a fraction of tha price: R$60 (average price for 1/2) to 80R$ (1h). If you pay less than that, the quality of theb garotas decline too.

6) If your´re smart enough, you can ask the garota to give you her phone number. That way you can go with her in swing parties (she will ask 150R$) or you can have her for R$ for the night.

7) Try as far as possible to stay away from high end boates. A real ripp off. The quality of the girls in some privê is the same as the garotas you may find in these tourists traps. Locals hobbyists barely go there....There´s always a risk of a police raid. Learn from what occured to the Bahamas!

8) There´s a market for high end garotas. I´ve visited one last week. A very private one with garotas at R$2 000 and R$3 000. You must have contacts to go there.

Hey Suis,

How can I meet a gdp in the R1,000 range?

Are they listed somewhere or would I need to know someone?