Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Giotto]

Absolutely. I would even go as far as suggest to try and land a non P4P girl, unless you feel the need to be the white knight in Shining armor.

NicFrenchy,Of course, me too. But the discussion were in this case specifically about p4p girls.Giotto

[NicFrenchy]

If that would be an option at all [most likely not], then I would prefer to look for a girl in discos, a high[er] class bars, Gentlemen Clubs etc. . Massage parlours and gogo bars would not be an option [for me].

Absolutely. I would even go as far as suggest to try adn land a non P4P girl, unless you feel the need to be the white knight in Shining armor.

[Giotto]

Everyone of course has far more insights into things here than me, but my own experience would make me agree with you Mick, also since Giotto owns a bar he may be just a bit biased. ...

I think I was a bit misunderstood by Mick. We were talking about customers taking care of girls, stopping them to work in the P4P scene.If that would be an option at all [most likely not], then I would prefer to look for a girl in discos, a high[er] class bars, Gentlemen Clubs etc. . Massage parlours and gogo bars would not be an option [for me].All that has nothing to do with Livingstone's Sports Lounge.Giotto

[Flyhere]

Giotto thinks bargirls are a better option, as less mileage, but I don't agree at all. Bargirls tend to have their characters more distorted by working in the bar, possibily due to spending so much time sucking up to Farangs. A Soapy girl can be much more natural and normal with the guy as he has already chosen her. The more normal and natural a girl can be, for personality, the better I like it. With bargirls I am expecting more of an act or show to be put on for me.

Everyone of course has far more insights into things here than me, but my own experience would make me agree with you Mick, also since Giotto owns a bar he may be just a bit biased. I went through a few soapy girls and found my current favorite #1, and she is great, well I like her the best anyway, she's a lot less drama than a BG for sure, a lot less expensive too.

[NicFrenchy]

I still believe that Soapies probably have more really classy and beautiful girls than Oilies do. But I don't have Nic's broader Oilies experience.

You're right, usually Soapies have far more beautiful girls than Oilies. Classier, I am not sure but definitely more beautiful in average.

Bar girls are usually lower on my list of favourite girls

Same here

Giotto thinks bargirls are a better option, as less mileage, but I don't agree at all. Bargirls tend to have their characters more distorted by working in the bar, possibily due to spending so much time sucking up to Farangs. A Soapy girl can be much more natural and normal with the guy as he has already chosen her. The more normal and natural a girl can be, for personality, the better I like it. With bargirls I am expecting more of an act or show to be put on for me.

Mileage-wise, Giotto is right, Bargirls are much less "utilised" then Massage girls. I also agree with your statement that BGs are more distorted but I think it's a lot to do with the Smoke, Booze, Drugs and all the nasty stuff associated with the nightlife.MP ladies don't have to work as hard to reel in their customers.

[M P Lurker]

So why did she say she was more beautiful?4,000 isn't that expensive considering the upmarket experience @ Utopia. You also don't need to tip because of the 1500 Farang Surcharge which is already the girls tip.Darlings can be as expensive (3,500 with tip) and the girls certainly don't look as good as Utopia... and the facilities at Darlings are crap.

Can't say why she said "more beautiful" for sure. Maybe the hair was slightly different? She is very nice looking to me, but always was too.I agree about no tip necessary. The girl gets 1K of the surcharge so its equivalent to a 1K tip on top her normally making about 1400 out of a 2500 fee.I can stand 4K for a really superior girl. What I can't stand is an average girl that makes me feel I am losing valuable mongering time and opportunity. There are still so many girls/places on the to do list that will never get done.Some guys will say: 4K no way! They can get a great girl for whole night for 1.5K. But I cannot believe she will be in the same class at all. My girl is a true model in my eyes, even though skin just a little too dark for Thais to assign her to the even more expensive model class upstairs that are mostly "plain Janes" or artificial weird looks in my eyes.Sorry, Pics are not available for "public" viewing, as I don't want all the ISG "ratbags" (yes I know there are many nice guys too) trying to get her booked out. I don't think she needs any publicity I always hope for the Soapy girl's total business to be down a bit so she will consider a full day/night with me as a good alternative. I speak only of girls classy enough to keep me enthralled well beyond just a simple monger session, of course.My objective is just to indicate to the forum that if you look around, you can meet some really hot dream girls at a Soapy Parlour. I still believe that Soapies probably have more really classy and beautiful girls than Oilies do. But I don't have Nic's broader Oilies experience. Bar girls are usually lower on my list of favourite girls too as if they are really great, they won't last long at all.Giotto thinks bargirls are a better option, as less mileage, but I don't agree at all. Bargirls tend to have their characters more distorted by working in the bar, possibily due to spending so much time sucking up to Farangs. A Soapy girl can be much more natural and normal with the guy as he has already chosen her. The more normal and natural a girl can be, for personality, the better I like it. With bargirls I am expecting more of an act or show to be put on for me.

[NicFrenchy]

My favourite soapy girl has returned to UTOPIA. On the phone she said that I would be surprised at how pretty she us. What the ... ? I am immediately alarmed and dreading the possibility of fake nose or ridiculous silicone tits. She has a great body but only A cup. But she assured me all is well. Probably just a new hairstyle.

So why did she say she was more beautiful?4,000 isn't that expensive considering the upmarket experience @ Utopia. You also don't need to tip because of the 1500 Farang Surcharge which is already the girls tip.Darlings can be as expensive (3,500 with tip) and the girls certainly don't look as good as Utopia... and the facilities at Darlings are crap.

[M P Lurker]

My favourite soapy girl has returned to UTOPIA. On the phone she said that I would be surprised at how pretty she us. What the ... ? I am immediately alarmed and dreading the possibility of fake nose or ridiculous silicone tits. She has a great body but only A cup. But she assured me all is well. Probably just a new hairstyle.I hadn't seen her for 8 months while she was trying life with a Thai BF in Chiangmai. But it didn't work out and all her money was got used up. Working Big C just doesn't pay well enough. Apparently the Thai BF was a bit of a sex freak and wanted to screw her several times per day LOL Who can blame him? However with this hottie I would be more than happy with just once per day. Now she says that she is sick of Thai men and thinking more of Farangs. At one point she asked me about L.A. so clearly I have some Farang competition for her attention.So I had to explain that L.A. is mostly a really shitty slum place like Khlong Toey in BKK LOLIf Mr LA is reading this post, he will be getting concerned now, as he has to return to LA yesterday evening. How to get this girl away from Mick's tongue.Miss X (name and number undisclosed) has a father from Trang (south) and mother from Chiang Rai (north) so her looks are darker than northern girl and face not so wide as northerners which is all perfect for me. Doesn't look at all like chinese that Thai men prefer.I was sooned reminded as to why she got to be my #1 P4P girl. Very pretty to start. Moderately tall with good curves.Lovely luscious lips and really knows how to kiss more like a Brazilian girl's kiss than a Thai girl's kiss. Wide open soft mouth and sloppy lips and willing give her entire tongue with no fear. Slow movements of tongue are most sexy for me.Her bath body massage technique is the best and her in bath BBBJ quite superior. In fact almost every thing she does sets the benchmark score of a 10 for me. Maybe her BJ is only a 9 as I had to remind her to go a little slower. She claimed that after several months of no work she had forgotten the correct pace but quickly readjusted back to the tempo of old.She really got into the DATY big time and seemed to come several times like she hadn't had much DATY for quite a while.Perhaps Thai men don't do this much. Other sex positions were superb too.As she is a bit expensive for Farangs (heavy surcharge), I suggested some outside liasons when business is quiet. She said she would be happy to see me on day off (her period) for no money as she wouldn't be able to perform.Free can easily be more expensive! Dinner, a movie, a present (like perfume) can really add up when no sex is involved but perhaps can get a BJ out of her. So now my other favourites are all relegated one peg down the list as Miss X is the just right combination of beauty and talents and 100% GFE. She is a pleasure to be with whether having sex or not.P.S. I am not exactly recommending Utopia as I couldn't find a replacement of my spec for Miss X there while she was gone for 8 months, however Utopia girls do seem to have superior training and perform very well in the bath.Utopia is worth considering really only for SE Asian appearance guys who can avoid the Farang surcharge. Their spec probably will be different to mine.

[Chedi]

Nic,Can you tell me which place has been rebadged as "Honey"?Like has Rynda disappeared and Honey appeared in its place?Oe is it Lanna Orchid that has been replaced?Which places are worth adding to the map?

According to their website...Angel 22 is now closed and most of the gals from there are at Honey Massage now.http://angel26.kt.fc2.com/angel2288.html

[M P Lurker]

Below is the LAtest Acquisition of ANGEL MAssage (same owner).Honey Massage Soi 24/1http://honeymassage.web.fc2.com/english.html So now in Soi 24/1 there are 2 joints that belong to the TEEN (Teen 2) team and 3 joints that belong to the ANGEL team (Angel, Menthol, Honey)Soi 33 Teen VIP video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ukHvwz4vW0

Nic,Can you tell me which place has been rebadged as "Honey"?Like has Rynda disappeared and Honey appeared in its place?Oe is it Lanna Orchid that has been replaced?Which places are worth adding to the map?

[NicFrenchy]

Can we expect a first hand report?

Yes, as soon as my dick is healed I'll try this place.

[NicFrenchy]

All girls seem to be 22yo and older. Are there any massage places that have girls in the 18-20yo range?

Yes, Nataree's sideliners. Some are quite young, just ask the girls and they will tell you.Don't trust the age posted on the websites. My fav @ Love Teen is listed as 19 on the site but is 27 in reality.

[Nvslim]

Below is the LAtest Acquisition of ANGEL MAssage (same owner).Honey Massage Soi 24/1

Looked at the website and there are some real cuties. Can we expect a first hand report?Thanks,Slim

[Amjeck]

Below is the LAtest Acquisition of ANGEL MAssage (same owner).Honey Massage Soi 24/1http://honeymassage.web.fc2.com/english.html

All girls seem to be 22yo and older. Are there any massage places that have girls in the 18-20yo range?

[NicFrenchy]

BBBJ is also not available as part of the Fashion Massage (which I had booked, and by now both in Soi 33 and Chitlom). Covered BJ is, and that is explicitly stated on their site. So I had no way to complain, which I didn't and enjoyed the hj instead.

So you got a CBJ? if yes then that's fine. Fashion Massage includes LIP service which is a BJ. If the lady only wants to HJ, send her back and pick another one.

Please do not link now to your post where you say that you have ALWAYS been BBBJ'd at Arkane

You know, I'd love to post a link but unfortunately I do not ALWAYS get a BBBJ In the beginning I had a few that would CBJ only but after asking them nicely, they eventually removed the condom. One thing that is a 100% deal clincher is to tell them that you can't come by a CBJ and that they could be sucking for 2 hours before you even begin to feel a thing. Usually, they look at me and repeat "2 hours?" with their eyes wide open... then remove the condom and start a BBBJ