Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Rio Bob]

I went out with the financial analyst from Banco do Brasil last night, had drinks in the Fasano with her, I wanted to check that place out for future place to hang for non pros, maybe later in the week when I'm alone.

This girl is very nice, I think I'm going to concentrate all my efforts on her, taking her to dinner tonight, I'm going to pursue this one hard, she is pretty, smart, classy, should be fun

After she went home because she has to work at about 11 PM I went to Help, entered about 12:30, place was empty so I did some scouting, had some conversations with a couple of stunners just for education purposes. I asked them what the going rate is? They said 400 reais and the Americans and Europeans are paying it. What a shame.

The place started to fill up by 1:30 2, I spoke to a couple of nice girls and some not so nice, one started dancing with me, it was going good then asks me can you pay me 400 reais, I said no, she walked away, Good.

Then I see a nice little package, dark hair really cute from Fortaleza, we talk, she seems like a good one, I ask how old she is, she is 18, very sexy number, I ask her how much, she says 250, another sexy number. But i hesitate thinking she would be immature. I take another walk around, many good looking girls but I won't pay the 400. I go back to this baby and say lets go.

Back in the apto, she was a little nervous I can see, told me to keep the key in the door, which I usually hide. Then like a kid was jumping up and down on the bed, it was fun. She turned out to be so sweet, body so new and perfect and for an old man like me who has been pretty active past couple of days it was so tight and wet and hot I gave up the first one rather quickly and she talked me through it, it was perfect. I have some pics but will post at a later date. She doesn't usually go to Help but her business phone broke because she is on Hotside name Ingridi so she came to help for some business, my lucky night.

One other thing, I read a post here that a guy said he saw a gdp in Help he knew from 2007 and he was surprised she was still going to Help. Last night I ran into a GDP I knew from 1997, so embarrasing because she comes up to me when I was talking to a young hot chick and this old timer comes and talks to me as if I've been doing her, back in 1997 she was one of the hot ones on the A list of Help but unfortunately not now, but I saw her later working on an old man for business, good for her.

[Felipe2006]

Hello,

A quick question. Where is a good place to watch the Super Bowl in Copacabana or Ipanema tonight? I'd like to see it (together with my chica) and not just silent TV screen but sound too.

Thanks! Felipe

[Rio Bob]

Your report misses out some vital info.Where did you meet these women on line, Brazil Cupid, Orkut?

Did they want money or were they after a relationship?

I have been using match.com for over 4 years now, thru the years I have had some success with this site. Actually the woman I did the other night I met for the first time 4 years ago but only had sex with her the first time the other night. This woman sells real estate in Barra and has a very big apt overlooking the beach. I gave her no money. Not only that she is a very conservative quiet woman who got off on the fact that I am a safado and screw all these women in Copa, she said it turnrd her on and she had sex with me for that and because I'm gostoso. She didn't expect to when I told her I was coming over .

I will also see this week another woman I met 4 years ago who I go to swing clubs with. She told me 4 years ago she is only looking for a husband not a fling but we chatted thru the years and became friends, she asked me to rewrite her profile in English and she started telling me about the guys she meets. Then I send her a new picture of me and she says even if we are friends if you really look like that I will have sex with you without being serious, she also turned on her cam and masterbated to my picture so I can see. Now I just take her to swing clubs. This woman is an art history professor, I give her no money.

Actually last night I met 2 women from Match, 1 at 9 pm in Copa, she is an Architect looking for a serious relationship. I told her that I'm a safado and she didn't blink an eye, asked me if she can get together with me today, I left her at 11 PM and went to meet another woman in Leblon, she is a financial analyst for Banco do Brasil, she asked me to go to dinner tonight. She is the better of the 2 so I may go with her today. I also had lunch with a woman yesterday in Ipanema, shes a lawyer, but she is a no go, waste of time but the table next to me had a real nice looking woman but I missed it,

I have a list of women now that I met online in the past couple of weeks on Match but I can't go meet them all, plus not all of them with have sex on the first date so you have to invest some time.

I ended up in Help last night, many girls asking for 500 or 400 and wouldn't take even 300 at 2:30 am, they told me to wait that at 4:30 they would if they had no customer. One girl I spoke to looked like Bridgett Bardot/Pamela Anderson, she was nice but i wouldn't pay the 400. I did end up with a real nice girl, I told her I only pay 200, she said don't say that too loud, keep it a secret, give me 200 plus taxi, she just left and it was well worth every real of it. This girl lives in Cabo Frio with her parents and only comes to Rio on the weekends to work, she also works in Cabo Frio in her parents business.

[Abzsafado]

then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.
Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.

Your report misses out some vital info.Where did you meet these women on line, Brazil Cupid, Orkut?
Did they want money or were they after a relationship?

[Jamaicanceo]

I agree with almost everyhthing that Dutch wrote and if you are a newbie and follow his instructions you will do fine in Help.. I tell first timers who ask me, you pick the girls, don't let them pick you! Good job Dutch.

I agree with you too. Termas girls may be wiling to come to your apartment. If you are into oral sex, termas girls have frequent medical benefits. Plus, to work at 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Luomo, Solarium, and Cancun termas, a garota has to be nonfavela, meaning no excessive tattoos, stretch marks, or attitude. With a Help girl she may look good, but she may have a lot of birth stretch marks. Inside or out of Help you really are not guaranteed that gem looks gleaming out of her expensive dress or tight jeans. Only after you get to your apartment will you discover that.

I met a girl in Help on my first trip that looked good. We fucked all night. The next morning I saw an ugly scar on her neck as if someone tried to slash her throat. Outside of this chick, I've had no problems.

Omegaman is right about asking someone. When I was at Help last December, two white Australians had the chunky white twins, Julia and Julianna, at their table. As a Black American who didn't know these guys, mongeing has no color, one of them leaned over and told me that these bitches think their pussies are made of platinum for R$500 each all night. I then told him that I had one of them March 2008 for R$200 and she tried to cutout after my orgasm claiming she needs to find her sister. They pull that sister routine often on mongers. So we whispered information, and the next think the twins knew they were sitting by themselves. The Aussies left them for other girls. Then one of them asked to be fucked telling me R$200, and I said no R$150 because you don't do anal or BBBJ. Then the infamous line, "You don't like me. " I told her I would like her better at R$100 for everything. " Yes, talking to other mongers is great advice.

[Jamaicanceo]

Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009

Well.....whatever people think about HELP, it's there and it does have some advantages too. It's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.

Anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', I thought I create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting Rio for the first time and going to HELP. It's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. Be my guest. Most of what I wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. But still I hope it may be useful to some.

Dutch44

Well said. I recommend newbies to print this out to read on you first flight into Brazil to not make avoidable mistakes; or on the flight back just in case you got this report after you made your Help mistakes. If you made mistakes covered in this report, don't jump out the plane, just be better prepared next time.

[Watchman4400]

i agree with almost everyhthing that dutch wrote and if you are a newbie and follow his instructions you will do fine in help. there are terma guys, there are help guys and some guys like to go to places that only the locals go. i like the termas but i don't go there much because i don't like the fact that i have to pay the same prices for every girl. at help, i can get a top quality girl, all night for less money than an hour in a terma.

i would just add a few things. i beleive the quality of the girls outside of help is usually much lower than the quality inside. if you come to rio to meet girls and have a good time i say, go in help, have a drink and watch. if you just relax and watch you will see how the game is played and you will be able to see which girls to stay away from and which girls are the gems.

talk to guys there that appear to know what they are doing. don't be shy, i have been going to rio for a long time and i love to help guys out. most guys that go to rio are pretty cool and if you strike up a conversation with them, let them know you are new they will help you out.

dutch said it but i want to make clear. relax! you are in control, remember to stay in control of the conversation. i think that most guys get into to trouble because they allow the women to take control because they are aggressive. the most aggressive girls are usually the girls that will give you problems later.

i tell first timers who ask me, you pick the girls, don't let them pick you! good job dutch.

rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009

well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.

anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.


1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlântica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.

2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.

3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.

4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!

5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.

6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.

7) now step by step the approaching process:

tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)

tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.

tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.

tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.

tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)

tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.

tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [CodeWord134] afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)

tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)

tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.

tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.

tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.

tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.

any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!

enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44

[Prosal]

Tip4: ask Faz tudo? (do you do everything?)

With all the respect due to your Help knowledge, cultural awareness and language skills, "faz tudo ?" is not only gibberish (no subject pronoun) but also not appropriate.

"Voce e completa ?" is the right way to ask a girl if she's willing to do anything (incl. but not only anal).

[Rio Bob]

Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009

Dutch44

Good post and very informative.

I got into Help last night at about 2 am. There was still plenty of good selections left, when I got there they were all over me like flies on shit, some real nice ones too. I only went in to take in the scene and listen to the music as I already had a full day. I had an escort from CIA-Plus in the afternoon 130 reais plus taxi for 2 hours then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.

But I met a nice blond from Santa Catarina in Help that just arrived that day, she came up to earn some money because her beauty salon has economic problems due to the rains they had in Santa Catarina. Price was right and she gave me a topper this afternoon when she left. She was the best of the day.

Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.

[Dutch44]

rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009

well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.

anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.


1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlântica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.

2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.

3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.

4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!

5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.

6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.

7) now step by step the approaching process:

tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)

tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.

tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.

tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.

tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)

tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.

tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [CodeWord134] afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)

tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)

tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.

tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.

tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.

tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.

any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!

enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44

[Bizzie]

maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.

you can find that in copa, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.
out of 12 times at helpee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the cocksucking, ass-licking, cim gdps.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls to leave at the end, not stay.
whatever floats your boat

[Bizzie]

.. an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.

you can find that at helpee, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.
out of 12 times at helpeee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the gdp.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls leave at the end, not stay.

[Bravo]

I went to shenanigans a couple of weeks ago to watch the payoffs, its was my first time there. The crowd was good and the food was excellant. However, they had a girl singing with a loud ass guitar during the fucking game!! Even though she was very good, it was annoying as hell! There were even some Americans booing and asking her to shut up, so they could concentrate on the game.

I am headed there again tomorrow for the Super Bowl, hopefully, they wont have any live entertainment during the game.

[Jamaicanceo]

jamaicanceo,

sorry. too many bad incidents are what? a girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.

yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock. to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve. people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain i suppose is really food for one month for them.). and btw i told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, i am hungry, lets go there. another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do.

first, you are traveling to monger territory looking for a girl friend experience.

second, you seem to always talk about help. when i go to rio help is my last option, it's not the best of rio.

help is the fast lane slow poke. get out of the fast lane.

when i do go to help, i've never pulled out a girl who even smokes a cigarette. then i do not let the princesses run the gdp. it seems like you have the gdp backwards. you have the dick, therore, you call the shots. "you don't like me," fuck that!

third, i go to copacabana for easy pussy, and the rest of brazil for brazil, and some pussy too, but not in ground zero. copacabana is not the place for gfe. sometimes you get lucky. on my first-trip i had a nice 18year-old, 5'-8" curvicious gold haired, gold skinned garota, and we communicated with a dictionary and internet cafe online translation. she didn't smoke or drink, and never asked for money. although i did give her some reals because she would travel from botofogo by bus to visit me. but she had a kid like most of the gdp, she was an unemployed manicurist, and she spoke no english. she was great for the first trip, but chemistry or not, are you in rio to fall in love.

maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.

[Dutch44]

Originally Posted by Lukasek
Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!!

Hi Lukasek,

I just read your post. I don't quite agree with your conclusion. It really depends on who you choose and where you go in Rio. There are plenty places besides Help where you can find very very nice garotas. Even at Help you can succeed. Anyway, my experience is different from yours. (been here many times) However you are right that very few speak english. I speak some portuguese and that makes a BIG difference. If you can talk and joke with them a little, it will not be a 'fast fuck' as you call it, but more of a girlfriend experience (GFE). Today I visited 4x4 in Centro. I spent 1 hour with a tall blonde 23 year old supermodel of the kind that you normally only see on expensive glossy magazines. And she had no inhibitions!

She spoke some english. Because I went to the room before 17h00 the entrance fee was free. Total cost including suite, girl and 1 drink: 205 R$.....that's less than 70 euro! Man, I know no place on earth where you can find that so easily. Its fairly easy to get there from Copa. Just take the metro to Uruguiana station (a 25 minute ride), and go to Rua Buenos Aires, 44, some 10 minutes away if you walk. Directions you will find on the forum. But perhaps you've already been there.

So I hope you have time to visit other places in Rio, like 4x4. Otherwise your experience will be limited just to Copa. Copa can be good and copa can be pretty bad as well. But maybe Rio is just not your thing. It's possible.

enjoy,
Dutch44

PS: Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite place, if I may ask?