Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Hammer_G]

Henry is an internet programmer and got paid $60,000 per year. I don't think he need a Mexican cell phone. My friend said the police wouldn't give back their passports until they paid. Well, maybe they are suckers.
My friends live in LA. They went there just for a few hours. Not overnight.
Anyway, I wasn't there. All the info is from his Email.

I think now they will just go to LA's Korean wh*rehouses for a while.

[Country John]

A mail from my friend. I often go to TJ with them, but didn't go this time.

We got framed inside Adelita, me and Henry walked in and right away some Mexican guy said Henry stole his cel phone and we ignored and walked around and then 4 guys followed us wanted us to empty our pockets, we tried to get the bartender to translate and then we were harrased and followed and we had to go out to get policia and then they bodysearched us and took our passports and then we were put against the wall, and then I gave the policia $20, they found no cel phone on us, we told them they are lying, and then we were let go. Henry turned white as a ghost and not a good experience.

Mate, Henry looked like the guy to stole the cel phone. That's it. It's not some grand plot to extort $20. If it were, it would have been for a lot more than $20. and it would have been a LOT more dramatic. Why did your friend pay the cops? For what? Why were they carrying their passports in the first place? I can understand how this went down, but I don't understand why your friend paid the cops.

[Hammer_G]

Since I am not in the US now, I only communicate with my friend thru Email.
I asked " Did police do anything to those people ? "
This is his reply,
"absolutely nothing, kept chatting with them afterwards. maybe on the same team."

[Efjayel]

Poor Henry. Bet he wont be going back.

[Phordphan]

A mail from my friend. I often go to TJ with them, but didn't go this time.

We got framed inside Adelita, me and Henry walked in and right away some Mexican guy said Henry stole his cel phone and we ignored and walked around and then 4 guys followed us wanted us to empty our pockets, we tried to get the bartender to translate and then we were harrased and followed and we had to go out to get policia and then they bodysearched us and took our passports and then we were put against the wall, and then I gave the policia $20, they found no cel phone on us, we told them they are lying, and then we were let go. Henry turned white as a ghost and not a good experience.

When did this happen? Date/time?

[Hammer_G]

A mail from my friend. I often go to TJ with them, but didn't go this time.

We got framed inside Adelita, me and Henry walked in and right away some Mexican guy said Henry stole his cel phone and we ignored and walked around and then 4 guys followed us wanted us to empty our pockets, we tried to get the bartender to translate and then we were harrased and followed and we had to go out to get policia and then they bodysearched us and took our passports and then we were put against the wall, and then I gave the policia $20, they found no cel phone on us, we told them they are lying, and then we were let go. Henry turned white as a ghost and not a good experience.

[Sgt Perv]

It's strange though, news of this hasn't even hit anywhere in L.A. At least not on the nightly news or radio news which I listen to everyday. If it wasn't for this site, I would have never known this happened.

Did you notice that none of the article have the familiar AP (Associated Press).

Some have copyright statements.

Not a mystery who has the influence to keep it low key and why.

Not exactly the pride story of US ,Mexico or military.

[Member #4450]

It's strange though, news of this hasn't even hit anywhere in L.A. At least not on the nightly news or radio news which I listen to everyday. If it wasn't for this site, I would have never known this happened.

You're right, I don't know why?
Everything is kept quiet, maybe there's not much info released by the Mexican authorities?
What motivated these guys to do a thing like that against these poor girls?

I don't buy they were attacked, the two guys at the same time and for what
money??
A 19 yrs old girl was found dead a few weeks before and one of the guys was caught by the hotel security camera and wearing the same shirt when he was arrested , he was seen with the girl before she was found dead by the hotel maid.
Did they bring the knives into TJ?
I'm not aware if you can legally buy these kind of knives in TJ, maybe at some sporting goods store?
Anyway it's a good story I wish was more info available, maybe 20/20, 60 minutes, or one those tv programs are working on it so stay tuned!

[Efjayel]

Okay thanks for that vid. And you're right, the girls they picked weren't exactly the best of the bunch. And from the interview of the chicas, seems these guys had it planned out to kill them.

Maybe these two were in some psychotic pact to kill prostitutes or something. Glad they are in jail.

It's strange though, news of this hasn't even hit anywhere in L.A. At least not on the nightly news or radio news which I listen to everyday. If it wasn't for this site, I would have never known this happened.

[Sgt Perv]

How do you know that?


I'd like to hear the side of the Navy guys. I have yet to hear anything of their side. They haven't even said they are innocent or try to explain anything. They simply refuse to talk.

When they were arrested they would not say what branch of the service they were with either.

Basic military training is you only give your name, rank ,serial number and date of birth.

That forces the captor to contact the US Military and register they have you.

In the USA or Mexico nothing they said could have helped them at all.

[Sgt Perv]

Are you a doctor? Yes, are plenty of recreational drugs that can fuck your brains and make you do things like that read the facts.

I do not have to be a doctor ( I was a qualified Medic ) , just sane, to know if I took a drug and killed someone while knowing enough that it was wrong and hide the body, I would not take that drug again.

That has to be one strange drug to get two people to act in the same insane way at same time and then repeat three weeks later.

It would be amazing that during the three week gap that the Navy did not know that either had an addiction.

They either took or bought knives in Mexico. Why? They knew it was against military policies.

Although they are military ,they are also people and people do fuck up.

[Member #4450]

Thank you! You saved me a lot of typing and was nicer then I would have been.

Although the military does train some to kill, no one is trained to kill without remorse. That is a very personal ,moral and individual thing.

How would you train someone to kill without remorse?

What drug would you take that would make you kill someone, hide the body, and then 3 weeks later want to repeat?

Stress from training ? Well one was in BUD (Basic Underwater Demolition) training. Yes he could have been depressed over failing but there was two of them!

These two sailors fucked up.

Are you a doctor? Yes, are plenty of recreational drugs that can fuck your brains and make you do things like that read the facts.

[Sgt Perv]

Yes they are Seals at least one of them is, if you google there's a lot info.

Nowhere was it said one was a Seal. It was said one was until recently in BUD training. Seal training is in the beginning 6 months long. Most do not make it through.

Most fail during "hell week"where they are screwed with mentally and physically to their limits.

Trained killers?

Do you really think that two chicas and an old man would be alive at the hands of one trained killer?

There was two young men with two knives. Far from being combat warriors.

[Member #4450]

If they were Marines or Soldiers I would buy this. However, these guys were U.S. Navy sailors. The Rambo cliches don't even apply (unless they were SEALs).

Yes they are Seals at least one of them is, if you google there's a lot info.

Please refrain from using Vietnam-vet warmonger Rambo movie cliches to describe the troops because the vast majority don't even come close to that level of craziness (and the ones who do were fucked in the head in the first place, before they ever joined the military).

No one said anything about Vietnam Vet warmonger, movies or anything like it.

How do you know that?

Here: http://www.10news.com/newsarchive/18677087/detail.html#

click on the videos to the right you can see one of the girls there's another site can't find it now it shows the two injured girls and the hotel manager.

[Sgt Perv]

Thank you! You saved me a lot of typing and was nicer then I would have been.

Although the military does train some to kill, no one is trained to kill without remorse. That is a very personal ,moral and individual thing.

How would you train someone to kill without remorse?

What drug would you take that would make you kill someone, hide the body, and then 3 weeks later want to repeat?

Stress from training ? Well one was in BUD (Basic Underwater Demolition) training. Yes he could have been depressed over failing but there was two of them!

These two sailors fucked up.